Been riding hardtails since 88, Oh rigid! Have the Nuke Proof Scout now. Love It. Switched to 27.5, XT, WBT wheel set up. Can crank uphill all day, downhill is a dream. Hardtails will never die
I have a Walmart hardtail I got for $300 it has disc brakes and rotors, all the gears and a pretty decent looking frame. I put some WTB double wall wheels on it, some Maxiss tires race face crank Easton bars and a azonc stem. Next is some hydraulic brakes, and I have a fox front shock I have to clean up an rebuild. Makes a good pump track bike
I have a Giant Fathom 1. It comes with everything you would need for some aggressive biking except for the fact that the rear caliper is 2 piston. Swap out the grips and rear caliper and you're good to go for some serious riding. I personally swapped the factory Ardent Race tires out for an Assegai in the front and a MInion DHf in the rear because I live in Norcal where the trails are always wet and filled with leaves and debris. I strongly recommend it because it's cheaper than every other bike on this list at $1850 USD and comes with roughly the same components.
I recently got the Marin San Quentin 3 from my local bike shop, my first REAL mountain bike that's not a department store cheapie. Already sprained my leg going down a horrible local double-black like an absolute imbecile haha! The problem is I just feel WAY too confident on this bike for my skill level, it performs amazing! Definitely going to have to learn some better technique on some milder trails before attempting that again!
Just bought the roscoe 8 at a discount for trek fest. I am very pleased with what I got! I had a roscoe 6 2020 before and this feels so much better than what the roscoe was before
I don’t know why the Giant Fathom 29 1 doesn’t get more love. At $1850 US it’s a steal. Lifetime frame warranty, tubeless set up, boost thru axle spacing and a solid build kit make it a great choice.
I own a Fathom 29, and I agree. For some reason this bike is commonly overlooked. But if the Rosco and the Fuse are on this list, then the Fathom should be too.
I own a 2021 Marin San Quentin 3. It’s an amazing all around bike. It’s a 27.5” with 130mm of travel. It rips at the bike park, can have fun at the pump track and DJ’s, and I can hit most enduro trails in Southern California. I went 27.5” because I’m 5’9” and wanted something playful. This bike is most happy at SkyPark bike park. Stock spec is full Deore for $2400.
I have 2 hardtails in the stable, the Big Al is just so good. I love it so much I splurged for the XO AXS drivetrain, I9 Enduro wheels and Code RSC brakes with a Diamond and One-Up bars & dropper she's a dream build. I have a Nimble9 setup singlespeed with Mercury wheels and a Sapphire fork. A Revive post and Spank cockpit makes for hard pedaling bliss. Yes I'm a total DVO fanboy.
Thanks for sharing Julian! I appreciate your support!💪🏻 That Big AL build of yours sounds dreamy! I’ve never ridden DVO suspension… hopefully sometime soon!🤞🏻
I just picked up my first aggressive hardtail. 2022 Rocky Mountain Growler 20. It's got entry lvl parts but I figured I'm a beginner rider and it's a great platform to grow with and upgrade it to suit my needs.
Honestly, starting MTB with a hardtail is the best decision you could have made! It’ll give you a fantastic foundation of skills. And if/when you move up to a full suspension bike, you’ll be unstoppable!💪🏻 Thanks for sharing Matt! I appreciate your support!
No dropper. I had to make a decision between Laufey H10 and Radon Cragger 8.0. I picked the Radon. MT5, GX, dropper post, DVO Suspension and a really nice colour
@@TheDiablosix6six Sorry, I tested the Laufey H30. H10, you are correct, but the overall specifications are not as good as the Cragger's. H10 has only 2 brake pistons. Cragger with MT5 4 pistons.
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Getting back into MTB this year, Picked up a Kobain a few weeks ago, they were all sold out for the season (!!!) but luckily my bike shop managed to get one for me in the specs I wanted (beige frame, shimano deore) I love it so far, can't wait for the season to begin!
I rock a heavily upgraded Fuse and can vouch for it's capability and versatility. I built mine into a strong 140mm trail hardtail that chases down FS bikes on my local trails while still being capable of park and enduro riding. You can set it up single speed because of the sliding dropouts. You could build it up short travel for a "downcountry" hardtail. It is priced steep for sure, and there are more progressive hardtail but unlike other frames...the Fuse can kind of do it all.
@@SbeckMTB I'm guessing you finished your bike. Did you stick with the 27.5? I went with the 27.5 sport model. So far I've upgraded the fork to a pike ultimate and a i9 360 back country wheel set. Got the bike down to 29 1/2lbs
@@buckroger6456my 29er came in just under 30 as well. Going from powerspline to a dub BB and cranks took a ton of weight out. Cassette upgrade also helped a lot
@@letsgo_inc I got the 27.5 sport and it was 31.09lbs. I swapped out the fork for a pike ultimate, the wheels for a i9 360 back country wheel set with the hydra hub, and the cassette for the one hug and a kiss sram 12 speed. All that dropped the weight to 29.10lbs. My next upgrade and final upgrades are the cranks, bottom bracket, brakes, rotors, rear derailleur and dropper post.
Best hardtail you can ride is the one you build yourself, to your own spec. I’m riding a 29er Ti hardtail, 485mm reach, 63.5 deg head angle, 75 deg seat angle, 435mm chain stays, full Renthal cockpit, 160mm Fox 36 Factory Grip2 fork, Fox Factory Transfer dropper post 170mm, SRAM GX AXS groupset, Magura MT7 brakes on 180/200 rotors, Hope 35mm rims on Hope Pro4 hubs, Specialized Hillbilly / Butchers 2.6 tyres. Cost me about the same as a top spec off-the-shelf alloy hardtail, but shreds harder than any of them.
Just picked that Trek Roscoe 8 up yesterday in blue 🔥🔥🔥 ... OMG what a bike .. I still have the full spec gun metal roscoe 7 27.5 .. but the new one is beautiful
Man thanks for making a video like this. I’ve rode BMX since I was a kid. I’m 33 now and transitioning into mtb. I got a gang of experience with the bmx world parts and frames done a gang of custom builds. But def been learning new aspects of the mtb world and Love to see all the different picks. Really for how much more components exist on a mtb the price ratio even for the top of the lines in this vid aren’t that bad, I’ve built kink bike frame based and S&M frame build outs for the same. Thanks again my friend. From FL SG the Earthsign
I’ve got the big al 1.0 in purple absolutely love it , I installed magura mt5 brakes . Brand x 200mm dropper ergon grips , CB stamp 2 pedals . Nukeproof stem . Love it
I've just picked up a Whyte 909 V4. Super light, fully loaded! Super impressed with performance, especially from the Pike Ultimate fork and SRAM GX Eagle drive train. It's not the best looker but it's definitely a great performer :)
Definitely interested in a 1000-2000 dollar range video. It seems like the jump in better parts from a sub 1000 hardtail is pretty significant all while not breaking the 2000 mark
Dartmoor Primal (Polish brand) and Whyte Enduro Hadrtail (UK brand). I rode Dartmoor Primal once (and I own Dartmoor Hornet 4X for near 5 years now), and saw Whyte in a friend of mine. Judging by look and feel, both of them are sick.
In my opinion, the Dartmoor Hornet Pro is the most underrated hardtail ever both for the price and the parts. 12x deore drivetrain, 4 piston deore brakes, 180 and 200mm rotors, 27.5 dartmoor wheels with 102t hubs, Rockshox domain 150mm travel and the frame supports 190mm travel. It also comes with a dropper post and all that for 1800-1900€.
I bought an RSD MiddleChild this season and absolutely love it! Understand you can't possibly try all the bikes, but this one's definitely worth checking out! Thanks for a great video!
@@wd99999 I got the 27.5 in Obsidian (Black) with the steel build kit. Recommendation from Steve on Hardtail Party. Better drivetrain and little more travel on the fork. I would’ve went with the Raw color, but they were sold out and they had $500 off of bikes in stock.
@@wd99999 and the bike was way better looking in person! Added a bunch of purple accessories. No regrets and I ride it like my Yeti SB 5.5. Notice the drops a bit more, but I feel like it’s making me a better rider.
As a heavier rider (pushing ~280, 6'2") went with the new Surly Krampus - mostly due to the frame flexibility for larger tires, the feel of steel on the road, and the updated specs vs older models. Its a beast and pretty heavy, but I can transition it to a Bikepacking bike if I get there and get a full sus as a second bike. My only negative is the super short dropper tube.
I just bought a ORBEA laufey h10 2022. I recommend it to everyone it has got a really good looking frame and a 140mm marzochi fork and it has got shimano slx brakes. It is also one of the best looking hardtails in my opinion.
I got a 2023 trek roscoe 8 for 2,000. Good bike for price and a nice build to start with. Gotta get some roost titanium bars and some berd wheels. Every hardtail needs berd wheels it is the best thing anyone could upgrade on a hardtail.
Thanks for the vid. I just purchased a 22 Ragley Big Al 2.0. Seriously couldn't beat the price at CRC. Plus, I already have a fork, handlebars, stem and brakes to swap to it. I've heard many good things about Ragley, so I'm looking forward to it. Nonetheless, the move to 29er from 27.5 is gonna be so nice.
Glad to see the Salsa at number 3. I demand adjustable drops as I only ride single. Should do another video but with hard tails over 3k. That would give you numerous Ti bikes and unique frames.
I run a Ragley Bigwig which I'm really happy with, great machine but if I had to choose another off the shelf it would probably be a Cotic BFEMax or a Bird AM Zero
I had a ragley marley for 3 years, was a great bike but as a taller rider 6ft3 I always felt like a bit of clown on it haha but it was very Sturdy! Just got myself a big Al, and still getting used to the 29er, but overall its a much better fit and feels more stable, and 4 pot brakes that I never knew that I needed, stops so well. Big ragley fan, and the fact they will replace your frame if its breaks is a testament to how much confidence they have in their build quality!.
I didn't want a hardtail so I went with the Giant Trance X 29 2 in Amber Glow... it's only a week old and I love it so much. I've been on a Walmart bike for 2 years so this has changed my life for the better... much better!!!
@@yengsabio5315 I rode every bike I could find, did as much research as possible and I felt that it was widely recommended that full suspension is a better option for me, my size and my riding needs. I'm not a small man and the full suspension really is a much better ride for me. But you can do more stuff on a full squish bike than you can on a hardtail... in my opinion of course.
Nice! I picked up a 2019 Marin san Quentin 3 for 1500 bucks in practically brand new condition!! Upgraded to xt 2 pistons brakes, deore 11 speed 11-51 deore drive train
so happy that the marin san quentin is here I personally use the san quentin 1 (upgraded the handlebar and the seatpost to a dropper one) that's all and I just love the way it looks feels and shreds
How come no love for Chromag? Pretty sure you are local to the Fraser Valley would have thought you would include one of their bikes plus RSD and the Kona Honzo ESD on the list...
@@TopToBottomMTB The Kona Honzo ESD is only $200 more than the Specialized Fuse, and a far better bike in every way. As one of the first brands to offer an aggressive hardtail, you are doing Kona a real disservice by leaving them off this list. Steel frame, adjustable dropouts for single speed, 417mm chainstays... recognize.
Heyy fam, thank you for the wonderful video!!!! I was wondering if Orbea's MX 40 is a good deal OR could you check out the Merida Big Trail 200? Also would love to see your opinion on a few european based brands... No pressure of course!!! Thanks in advance! P.S.: The edits in all your videos are phenomenal! Keep up the good work man
Amazing list and your video is top notch! New sub here and looking forward to more content. I’m hoping for more content and details on medium to high end mountain bikes and components with more details such as tire clearance and fork offset, plus unique features such as adjustable drop out length or cable routing options. My two newer hardtail’s are Esker Hayduke that has both a 29er and 27.5 plus wheel options and a Japhy that is 29er and I built a SS with the adjustable drop out to tension my chain. Anyway keep the videos like this coming!
Cannodale Trail SE2 I got it on sale for $1500, I’d change the Pedals, Grips but you possibly upgrade to NX derailuer & shifter or 4 piston brakes although it’s really not needed. With upgrades still less then $2000. It’s light, agile, stable I’ve ridden down double black diamond trails no problems.
Just discovered your channel…good job! Out of all of them, which one to ride as trail bike mostly, but bike packing if needed? I’d run 29er mostly , but 27.5+ for bike packing…
I'm in love with modern hardtail geometry and fatbikes so I ordered titanium custom fatbike frame with this geometry. With two wheelsets (29x3.0 for summer and 26x4.8 for the rest of the year) it's my absolute dream bike :)
@@TopToBottomMTB Thank you! check this out :) Head tube angle 65° (120 mm Manitou Mastodon fork) Seat tube angle 74° Reach 480 mm Chainstays 440 mm (for 29+ wheel, it's like 30.5er) Wheelbase 1241 mm Brand-x 200 mm dropper post
I'm in love with it too! Something to also keep in mind while riding mtbs are helmets. Most people wear cpsc helmets (which arent safe), when they should be actually wearing an nta helmet like xnito or bern, or even a full face helmet
I just got my first hardtail for my 59th birthday, the odds of celebrating 60 just went down considerably. 😂 I got an emtb fat tire few months ago because bad knees, its really fun but it weighs 66lbs. I can't learn to jump on that, my goal is to do a jump and whip and land without crashing before im 60.
Noice! I got me self a 2023 Miami green/trek black roscoe 7 , will try to learn some trials moves, I’m putting an XT m8120 caliper on the rear and bash guard on this baby! I love it so far!
I've got the trek Roscoe 7 2021 matt black but upgrading it was goin to get the whyte 901 but now I've seen this video think i will get the 8 now it looks sick. Thanx for the video
@@TopToBottomMTB It’s great. New dropper lever, 203 rotors, Deore crank, oval chainring & pedals. ~AUD$2000. The Air fork is fine as are the 2 piston brakes.
My short list is: Marin San Quentin, Ragley Marley, Dartmoor Primal, NS Eccentric, Giant Fathom 27.5, Specialized Fuse 27.5. Just starting shopping and making a list. I think you have a a Marin San Quentin 1 or 2 and... I have no idea what else. (Commercial of course.) I really like your videos, I think I just have different desires from a hardtail. Where you take that Meta AM, I bet I use my Full Sus. I don't think I like a "hardcore" hardtail. Something like the San Quentin slackened a degree or two for quicker, less body English handling would be perfect. Props for including Vitus. Never heard of them. I was stoked until I saw how long that chainstay was.
When ragley had the purple paint colors they looked so good. I wish trek would do more bikes in the paint color from the ticket that color is also amazing.
Looking for advice for my wife to upgrade. She rides a 2021 Liv Tempt 1 on 29's. She is 5'5. She rides green and blues in Cincinnati, OH. Very hill and lots of roots. I ride a 2021 Commencal Meta HT AM w/ 150mm, 29x2.6 Lyrik Ulitmate, Hope Brakes and Shimao XT 12spd groupset. She does not want to do anything crazy but I want to get her a more capable/safer bike. with more travel and slacker headtube angle. Any recommendations? Should I just build her a Meta HT?
Hi! Awsome chanel, very educational!! Do you have thoughts on Canyon Grand Canyon 9? It fits into this price range and the components even better. Oh...and Fox forks! Your answer is appreciated!
Thanks, awesome video - gave me a lot of more models to look at. However, perhaps not a bike available for you guys in US or Canada - but the Rose Bonero looks very interesting!
Mostly ride a Transition Sentinel FS, but purchased a Cannondale Trail SE 1 recently. It has all the characteristics you describe. Just getting familiar with the bike, but am impressed so far.
You have done a extraordinary job educating us with these bikes. I would need to whatch the video again. I love how you day perfect on a few bikes when it came to geometry. My son is 15 but hes 6'2 and growing he is taking to riding at a younger age. I dont known what size bike to get him as a large may handle better being smaller. What do you think? Your in put is invaluable.
I have a Salsa from 2013 with a 71 degree HTA and 21" seat tube. Its tall and steep. I hate how tall it is, but I do like the steepness. Unfortunately, its not very nimble with a 450mm chainstay. You see to prefer HTA of around 65/66. That seems, to me, very downhill specific oriented. There are no huge downhill tracks here. Mostly flat tracks here with some drops and climbs. Lots of limestone and rock beds. Would I really want a geo like you suggest, or are you forgetting that not all MTB'ers downhill on mountains? I want something thats easy to manual and only really need 100-120mm travel. Being 6'4" the slacker the geo, the longer the bike gets, and an XL with a HTA of 64 ends up feeling like a limousine.
I got myself the Devinci Kobain, but unfortunately it is a couple years old so mine didn't come with a dropper post & came with Rockshox. Absolutely love the bike...slowly beginning to upgrade components on it, and she just keeps getting better!
Sorry about the end-screen homies!🥴 The TOP 10 budget full suspension list should be ready in the week or so. Pls watch the video TH-cam recommends in the meantime.🤘🏻
Can't wait for that one since I'm on the market for a new bike and need an expert opinion. I enjoyed this video but I'm leaning towards the full suspension bike a bit more
Ahh man!! Thank you so much!! That means a lot! I’m seriously blown away with how positive and supportive the audience has been for me and this new channel! Love to have you guys in the audience! Cheers!🍻
Hey, nice video, I have only done mountain biking once, and plan on doing it more often, as I have a couple of friends that I want to join on mountain biking...I want to get a bike that can help commute to work often to work (3 days a week), take my kid on a ride, but also take it to the trail or mountain, I am planning on getting the Specialized Trevor 3.0 hardtail. what do suggest? is that good option? thanks!!
I just bought a marlin 6 after not riding for years, I never did any downhill riding or dirt jumping before. I know I'll maybe get laughed at for this comment but it seems like good quality for money for what I need it for.
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Been riding hardtails since 88, Oh rigid! Have the Nuke Proof Scout now. Love It. Switched to 27.5, XT, WBT wheel set up. Can crank uphill all day, downhill is a dream. Hardtails will never die
Received a RSD Sergeant V4 on April 27th and put almost 1,400 trail miles on it (it's one of 5 mountain bikes i own). This bike is a game changer.
I’ll check them out! Thx!🤘🏻
I have the same bike. It should be in someones top 10.
I have a Walmart hardtail I got for $300 it has disc brakes and rotors, all the gears and a pretty decent looking frame. I put some WTB double wall wheels on it, some Maxiss tires race face crank Easton bars and a azonc stem. Next is some hydraulic brakes, and I have a fox front shock I have to clean up an rebuild. Makes a good pump track bike
I have a Giant Fathom 1. It comes with everything you would need for some aggressive biking except for the fact that the rear caliper is 2 piston. Swap out the grips and rear caliper and you're good to go for some serious riding. I personally swapped the factory Ardent Race tires out for an Assegai in the front and a MInion DHf in the rear because I live in Norcal where the trails are always wet and filled with leaves and debris. I strongly recommend it because it's cheaper than every other bike on this list at $1850 USD and comes with roughly the same components.
I recently got the Marin San Quentin 3 from my local bike shop, my first REAL mountain bike that's not a department store cheapie. Already sprained my leg going down a horrible local double-black like an absolute imbecile haha! The problem is I just feel WAY too confident on this bike for my skill level, it performs amazing! Definitely going to have to learn some better technique on some milder trails before attempting that again!
The Orbea Laufey should definitely be on the list. I have been riding the H-LTD edition for a couple of months now and I love it!
The Laufey is a badass bike. I have one and ride it pretty much anywhere.
Best bike
Not with that fruity ridiculous name
@@DB-sd3cwYou're stupid
Just bought the roscoe 8 at a discount for trek fest. I am very pleased with what I got! I had a roscoe 6 2020 before and this feels so much better than what the roscoe was before
That's what I'm getting ready to pick up I'm excited
Picked up my Roscoe 9 a couple of days ago, can't wait to get out on the trails!
Oh SNAP!!! Happy trails! Go rip it up!
Good choice I just pick my roscoe9 up yesterday
My first hardtail was a 2013 Trek Wahoo 29er in a beautiful matte blue and white
I don’t know why the Giant Fathom 29 1 doesn’t get more love. At $1850 US it’s a steal. Lifetime frame warranty, tubeless set up, boost thru axle spacing and a solid build kit make it a great choice.
I own a Fathom 29, and I agree. For some reason this bike is commonly overlooked. But if the Rosco and the Fuse are on this list, then the Fathom should be too.
I own a 2021 Marin San Quentin 3. It’s an amazing all around bike. It’s a 27.5” with 130mm of travel. It rips at the bike park, can have fun at the pump track and DJ’s, and I can hit most enduro trails in Southern California. I went 27.5” because I’m 5’9” and wanted something playful. This bike is most happy at SkyPark bike park. Stock spec is full Deore for $2400.
Have a 2020 SanQuentin 2 and love it
What size?
I have 2 hardtails in the stable, the Big Al is just so good. I love it so much I splurged for the XO AXS drivetrain, I9 Enduro wheels and Code RSC brakes with a Diamond and One-Up bars & dropper she's a dream build.
I have a Nimble9 setup singlespeed with Mercury wheels and a Sapphire fork. A Revive post and Spank cockpit makes for hard pedaling bliss.
Yes I'm a total DVO fanboy.
Thanks for sharing Julian! I appreciate your support!💪🏻 That Big AL build of yours sounds dreamy! I’ve never ridden DVO suspension… hopefully sometime soon!🤞🏻
I just picked up my first aggressive hardtail. 2022 Rocky Mountain Growler 20. It's got entry lvl parts but I figured I'm a beginner rider and it's a great platform to grow with and upgrade it to suit my needs.
Honestly, starting MTB with a hardtail is the best decision you could have made! It’ll give you a fantastic foundation of skills. And if/when you move up to a full suspension bike, you’ll be unstoppable!💪🏻 Thanks for sharing Matt! I appreciate your support!
Can't believe u never mentioned the Orbea Laufey H10!! Great bike with great spec and very good value!!
So many great bikes out there! Sorry! I’ll try and get one into the 2023 list.🤘🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB and the giant fathom smhhh lol
No dropper. I had to make a decision between Laufey H10 and Radon Cragger 8.0. I picked the Radon. MT5, GX, dropper post, DVO Suspension and a really nice colour
@@Astabasta69 Laufey H10 has got a dropper post!!
@@TheDiablosix6six Sorry, I tested the Laufey H30. H10, you are correct, but the overall specifications are not as good as the Cragger's. H10 has only 2 brake pistons. Cragger with MT5 4 pistons.
Getting back into MTB this year,
Picked up a Kobain a few weeks ago, they were all sold out for the season (!!!) but luckily my bike shop managed to get one for me in the specs I wanted (beige frame, shimano deore)
I love it so far, can't wait for the season to begin!
I rock a heavily upgraded Fuse and can vouch for it's capability and versatility. I built mine into a strong 140mm trail hardtail that chases down FS bikes on my local trails while still being capable of park and enduro riding. You can set it up single speed because of the sliding dropouts. You could build it up short travel for a "downcountry" hardtail. It is priced steep for sure, and there are more progressive hardtail but unlike other frames...the Fuse can kind of do it all.
Yo the Fuse is great! I'm still building mine up but so far what little I've done to it has made it just epic..
I started with the 27.5 base model and even then it was a ass kicker I could do just about anything in the pnw
@@SbeckMTB I'm guessing you finished your bike. Did you stick with the 27.5?
I went with the 27.5 sport model. So far I've upgraded the fork to a pike ultimate and a i9 360 back country wheel set. Got the bike down to 29 1/2lbs
@@buckroger6456my 29er came in just under 30 as well. Going from powerspline to a dub BB and cranks took a ton of weight out. Cassette upgrade also helped a lot
@@letsgo_inc I got the 27.5 sport and it was 31.09lbs. I swapped out the fork for a pike ultimate, the wheels for a i9 360 back country wheel set with the hydra hub, and the cassette for the one hug and a kiss sram 12 speed. All that dropped the weight to 29.10lbs. My next upgrade and final upgrades are the cranks, bottom bracket, brakes, rotors, rear derailleur and dropper post.
Best hardtail you can ride is the one you build yourself, to your own spec.
I’m riding a 29er Ti hardtail, 485mm reach, 63.5 deg head angle, 75 deg seat angle, 435mm chain stays, full Renthal cockpit, 160mm Fox 36 Factory Grip2 fork, Fox Factory Transfer dropper post 170mm, SRAM GX AXS groupset, Magura MT7 brakes on 180/200 rotors, Hope 35mm rims on Hope Pro4 hubs, Specialized Hillbilly / Butchers 2.6 tyres.
Cost me about the same as a top spec off-the-shelf alloy hardtail, but shreds harder than any of them.
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Wicked bikes! I ride a Vitus Sentier and it is on the list, haha. Great video mate!
Thanks! Working on more for this year… Cheers!🍻
Just picked that Trek Roscoe 8 up yesterday in blue 🔥🔥🔥 ... OMG what a bike .. I still have the full spec gun metal roscoe 7 27.5 .. but the new one is beautiful
Oh SNAP!!! Congrats! Sick bike! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Man thanks for making a video like this. I’ve rode BMX since I was a kid. I’m 33 now and transitioning into mtb. I got a gang of experience with the bmx world parts and frames done a gang of custom builds. But def been learning new aspects of the mtb world and
Love to see all the different picks. Really for how much more components exist on a mtb the price ratio even for the top of the lines in this vid aren’t that bad, I’ve built kink bike frame based and S&M frame build outs for the same.
Thanks again my friend.
From FL
SG the Earthsign
Cheers!🍻
I’ve got the big al 1.0 in purple absolutely love it , I installed magura mt5 brakes . Brand x 200mm dropper ergon grips , CB stamp 2 pedals . Nukeproof stem . Love it
YES!!! That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing and the comment! 🤘🏻
I've just picked up a Whyte 909 V4. Super light, fully loaded! Super impressed with performance, especially from the Pike Ultimate fork and SRAM GX Eagle drive train. It's not the best looker but it's definitely a great performer :)
Definitely interested in a 1000-2000 dollar range video. It seems like the jump in better parts from a sub 1000 hardtail is pretty significant all while not breaking the 2000 mark
Dartmoor Primal (Polish brand) and Whyte Enduro Hadrtail (UK brand).
I rode Dartmoor Primal once (and I own Dartmoor Hornet 4X for near 5 years now), and saw Whyte in a friend of mine.
Judging by look and feel, both of them are sick.
easily the comparative and comprehensive vids i have seen well done
Thx homie! Glad you liked it!🤜🏼🤛🏼
I just got a Marin San Quentin 3 for 1400 brand new this video proved I made a great purchase!
In my opinion, the Dartmoor Hornet Pro is the most underrated hardtail ever both for the price and the parts. 12x deore drivetrain, 4 piston deore brakes, 180 and 200mm rotors, 27.5 dartmoor wheels with 102t hubs, Rockshox domain 150mm travel and the frame supports 190mm travel. It also comes with a dropper post and all that for 1800-1900€.
I bought an RSD MiddleChild this season and absolutely love it! Understand you can't possibly try all the bikes, but this one's definitely worth checking out! Thanks for a great video!
Jason! Thank you so much brother! Lovin’ the support you guys are showing the channel! Yew!🤘🏻
I have one on pre-order, 29 GX in Verdigris w/ dropper
Which spec / color did you get?
@@wd99999 I got the 27.5 in Obsidian (Black) with the steel build kit. Recommendation from Steve on Hardtail Party. Better drivetrain and little more travel on the fork. I would’ve went with the Raw color, but they were sold out and they had $500 off of bikes in stock.
@@wd99999 and the bike was way better looking in person! Added a bunch of purple accessories. No regrets and I ride it like my Yeti SB 5.5. Notice the drops a bit more, but I feel like it’s making me a better rider.
I just commented on your budget hardtail video about Nukeproof bikes. Glad to see it here.
As a heavier rider (pushing ~280, 6'2") went with the new Surly Krampus - mostly due to the frame flexibility for larger tires, the feel of steel on the road, and the updated specs vs older models. Its a beast and pretty heavy, but I can transition it to a Bikepacking bike if I get there and get a full sus as a second bike. My only negative is the super short dropper tube.
I just bought a ORBEA laufey h10 2022. I recommend it to everyone it has got a really good looking frame and a 140mm marzochi fork and it has got shimano slx brakes. It is also one of the best looking hardtails in my opinion.
I got a 2023 trek roscoe 8 for 2,000. Good bike for price and a nice build to start with. Gotta get some roost titanium bars and some berd wheels. Every hardtail needs berd wheels it is the best thing anyone could upgrade on a hardtail.
Can I ask you went 8 and not 9?
@syms85 8. I got a good deal so that's why. I ended up paying 1500 or 1600 by the end of it. You can find them used for really good deals also now.
Just bought myself a Devinci Kobain deore s12 yesterday love this bike!!
Have a '17 Nukeproof Scout 290 in my quiver.... 140mm Lyrik Ultimate, 180mm Oneup dropper + Oneup under.bar remote, SLX 11-46, 11 Spd drivetrain, Kore 3.0 + DT Swiss 350 wheels, SRAM Guide R 4 pot brakes w/ 200/180mm rotors, Abs Black 30t Oval chainring, 2.5 Assegai & 2.4 Dissector rubber, Funn Fatboy 780mm bars w/ 50mm Kore stem, Chromag grips, bashguard, chainslap protection (OEM), Charge Cooker saddle...
Absolute weapon 🤘
Absolutely love Commencal. I'm on my third. Started with a the old HT Trail, moved on to the HT AM, and now have a full sus AM.
Thanks for the vid. I just purchased a 22 Ragley Big Al 2.0. Seriously couldn't beat the price at CRC. Plus, I already have a fork, handlebars, stem and brakes to swap to it. I've heard many good things about Ragley, so I'm looking forward to it. Nonetheless, the move to 29er from 27.5 is gonna be so nice.
Congrats!🤜🏼🤛🏼
I picked mem up a sweet little Roscoe 7. Love it!!
Glad to see the Salsa at number 3. I demand adjustable drops as I only ride single. Should do another video but with hard tails over 3k. That would give you numerous Ti bikes and unique frames.
I run a Ragley Bigwig which I'm really happy with, great machine but if I had to choose another off the shelf it would probably be a Cotic BFEMax or a Bird AM Zero
Thanks for the heads up! I’ll check them out!👊🏻
Which one will you choose? Trek X Caliber 9 vs Trek ProCaliber 9.5 vs Scott Scale 940 vs Specialized Chisel vc Giant Stance vs Giant Fathom
I had a ragley marley for 3 years, was a great bike but as a taller rider 6ft3 I always felt like a bit of clown on it haha but it was very Sturdy!
Just got myself a big Al, and still getting used to the 29er, but overall its a much better fit and feels more stable, and 4 pot brakes that I never knew that I needed, stops so well.
Big ragley fan, and the fact they will replace your frame if its breaks is a testament to how much confidence they have in their build quality!.
I bought a San Quentin 3. I've had it for a few months now and love it.
Sick! Thx for sharing! A lot of people looking at that bike!
I didn't want a hardtail so I went with the Giant Trance X 29 2 in Amber Glow... it's only a week old and I love it so much. I've been on a Walmart bike for 2 years so this has changed my life for the better... much better!!!
If it's not too much to ask, what made you did not want a hardtail, Sir? Thanks in advance!
Yeah buddy! I had a trance before my Commencal and it was a great entry into climbing and trail riding!💪🏻
@@yengsabio5315 I rode every bike I could find, did as much research as possible and I felt that it was widely recommended that full suspension is a better option for me, my size and my riding needs. I'm not a small man and the full suspension really is a much better ride for me.
But you can do more stuff on a full squish bike than you can on a hardtail... in my opinion of course.
@@RVsbladesnthangs Thank you for responding, Sir!
Nice! I picked up a 2019 Marin san Quentin 3 for 1500 bucks in practically brand new condition!! Upgraded to xt 2 pistons brakes, deore 11 speed 11-51 deore drive train
I just bought a trek Roscoe 7 and I was scared seeing the other bikes on this vid until I saw the prices where in us which is a lot different to au.
Sick bike! Congrats! Now go rip up the trails!🤘🏻
so happy that the marin san quentin is here I personally use the san quentin 1 (upgraded the handlebar and the seatpost to a dropper one) that's all and I just love the way it looks feels and shreds
Should I get the Roscoe 7 or growler 50?
Ooh… I’d go with the growler. Sick bikes either way you go though.
@@TopToBottomMTB thanks I ended up getting the Roscoe 8👍
Oh yeah much better spec on the 8! Congrats!
@@TopToBottomMTB I figured why not go for the 8 you get significantly better specs than the 7 and it’s not that much of a price jump.
How come no love for Chromag? Pretty sure you are local to the Fraser Valley would have thought you would include one of their bikes plus RSD and the Kona Honzo ESD on the list...
Really hoping due the Kona Honzo esd, personally I ride one with some little goodies like xt derailer and new rims
Looked at the Kona… Gorgeous bike but it’s pretty pricy for what you get.🤷🏻♂️
@@TopToBottomMTB yea, also was hoping for an an able mention single speed hardtails. ( anyone who rocks a hardtails gotta try single speed )
@@TopToBottomMTB The Kona Honzo ESD is only $200 more than the Specialized Fuse, and a far better bike in every way. As one of the first brands to offer an aggressive hardtail, you are doing Kona a real disservice by leaving them off this list. Steel frame, adjustable dropouts for single speed, 417mm chainstays... recognize.
@@000cpike 100% i agree! I had to cap it off at 3k… maybe it’ll make the dentist bike list.🤷🏻♂️
Awesome list! I would include the Canyon Stoic. Great specs for the money!
Yep but its out of stock till the winter and by then the 2023 will be out. stay tuned for the 2023 list incoming soon!
Just bought a Ragley Big Al 1.0 and couldnt be happier
Heyy fam, thank you for the wonderful video!!!! I was wondering if Orbea's MX 40 is a good deal OR could you check out the Merida Big Trail 200? Also would love to see your opinion on a few european based brands... No pressure of course!!! Thanks in advance!
P.S.: The edits in all your videos are phenomenal! Keep up the good work man
Thanks brother! I’ll check them out and get back to you!
I was wondering where the Roscoe was! Dang, number one! I got the 8 and I love it. It’s a beast.
Awesome list! Shocked to not see the Trek Roscoe 7/8 on here. Great video!
The 2023 was already out… it’ll definitely be in the 2023 video coming soon!🤘🏻
Amazing list and your video is top notch! New sub here and looking forward to more content. I’m hoping for more content and details on medium to high end mountain bikes and components with more details such as tire clearance and fork offset, plus unique features such as adjustable drop out length or cable routing options. My two newer hardtail’s are Esker Hayduke that has both a 29er and 27.5 plus wheel options and a Japhy that is 29er and I built a SS with the adjustable drop out to tension my chain. Anyway keep the videos like this coming!
Thanks! Will do!👊🏻
Cannodale Trail SE2 I got it on sale for $1500, I’d change the Pedals, Grips but you possibly upgrade to NX derailuer & shifter or 4 piston brakes although it’s really not needed. With upgrades still less then $2000. It’s light, agile, stable I’ve ridden down double black diamond trails no problems.
Just discovered your channel…good job! Out of all of them, which one to ride as trail bike mostly, but bike packing if needed? I’d run 29er mostly , but 27.5+ for bike packing…
Nice! and thanks! The salsa looks good for that…
Kona Honzo ESD dominates this list!
I'm in love with modern hardtail geometry and fatbikes so I ordered titanium custom fatbike frame with this geometry. With two wheelsets (29x3.0 for summer and 26x4.8 for the rest of the year) it's my absolute dream bike :)
Sick! Good. For you brother! Custom anything is the best!🤘🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB Thank you!
check this out :)
Head tube angle 65° (120 mm Manitou Mastodon fork)
Seat tube angle 74°
Reach 480 mm
Chainstays 440 mm (for 29+ wheel, it's like 30.5er)
Wheelbase 1241 mm
Brand-x 200 mm dropper post
@@amdmg7 awesome!💪🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB U should try the brand isaac they make really outstanding hardtail bikes and only hardtail.
I'm in love with it too! Something to also keep in mind while riding mtbs are helmets. Most people wear cpsc helmets (which arent safe), when they should be actually wearing an nta helmet like xnito or bern, or even a full face helmet
I just got my first hardtail for my 59th birthday, the odds of celebrating 60 just went down considerably. 😂
I got an emtb fat tire few months ago because bad knees, its really fun but it weighs 66lbs. I can't learn to jump on that, my goal is to do a jump and whip and land without crashing before im 60.
I built a Banshee Paradox w Pike, Horizon wheels and xt 11spd w slx 4pot brakes
Dhr tires, unstoppable
Love the custom builds!💪🏻
Noice! I got me self a 2023 Miami green/trek black roscoe 7 , will try to learn some trials moves, I’m putting an XT m8120 caliper on the rear and bash guard on this baby! I love it so far!
Siiiiick!🤘🏻
🤘🏾🤘🏾
I've got the trek Roscoe 7 2021 matt black but upgrading it was goin to get the whyte 901 but now I've seen this video think i will get the 8 now it looks sick. Thanx for the video
You’re in good hands either way… Thanks for the kind words! Cheers! 🍻
Good wrap up. I recently got a Marin SQ2 with a few upgrades.
Sick bike! Well done! How’s it treating you? Change anything on it?
@@TopToBottomMTB It’s great. New dropper lever, 203 rotors, Deore crank, oval chainring & pedals. ~AUD$2000. The Air fork is fine as are the 2 piston brakes.
Hello. I have a 2020 fuse comp 29”. 3000 miles on it. Love it. Shreds
My short list is: Marin San Quentin, Ragley Marley, Dartmoor Primal, NS Eccentric, Giant Fathom 27.5, Specialized Fuse 27.5. Just starting shopping and making a list.
I think you have a a Marin San Quentin 1 or 2 and... I have no idea what else. (Commercial of course.)
I really like your videos, I think I just have different desires from a hardtail. Where you take that Meta AM, I bet I use my Full Sus.
I don't think I like a "hardcore" hardtail. Something like the San Quentin slackened a degree or two for quicker, less body English handling would be perfect.
Props for including Vitus. Never heard of them. I was stoked until I saw how long that chainstay was.
Cheers!🤘🏻
Santa Cruz Chameleon is my favorite bike of all time. Have owned multiple back to the 26" days. That Commencal does look sick though.
Me too! Had a chameleon I used to dirt jump with like 15 years ago… great bike! Thx for the comment and support! Cheers!🍻
I also have a santa chameleon and love it
chameleon owner here.. Size XL.. love riding it..
Custom: ragley big al purple, lyrik ultimate, sram gx drivetrain, Shimano slx brakes, crankbrothers highline 7 dropper, burgtec the cloud saddle, hope pro 4 hubs (rear later switched to spank hex)+SunRingle duroc sd37 rims, 180+203 xt rotors, nukeproof horizon stem and handlebar, spank oozy pedals. Love it.
Wow! Sick build!💪🏻
When ragley had the purple paint colors they looked so good. I wish trek would do more bikes in the paint color from the ticket that color is also amazing.
No Kona Honzo or RSD Middlechild common 2 bikes that should of been in the top 3!!!!
Been riding for 30 years, gone back to 26" wheels and a ten year old frame , so much more nimble,just got to put hydrulic brakes on itl
I think Dartmoor bikes should have a spot in here. They are really underrated in the US.
Agreed! I had a 26 player dirt jumper a few years ago… loved it.
UP!
Riding a hardtail helps to keep more MONEY in my pocket and still give me the rush. Currently Riding a Nukeproof Scout. Let's go! Aloha!
I’m looking for a bike and my budget is 1400 usd and I was thinking of a trek marlin 8 or something else. Please give me suggestions.
Never mountain biked before. Brother in law did bmx growing up and he talked me into getting a bike. Looking at the trek marlin 8 gen 3. Good choice?
Yes! Love my Gt Zaskar Expert!
Looking for advice for my wife to upgrade. She rides a 2021 Liv Tempt 1 on 29's. She is 5'5. She rides green and blues in Cincinnati, OH. Very hill and lots of roots. I ride a 2021 Commencal Meta HT AM w/ 150mm, 29x2.6 Lyrik Ulitmate, Hope Brakes and Shimao XT 12spd groupset. She does not want to do anything crazy but I want to get her a more capable/safer bike. with more travel and slacker headtube angle. Any recommendations? Should I just build her a Meta HT?
Hi! Awsome chanel, very educational!! Do you have thoughts on Canyon Grand Canyon 9? It fits into this price range and the components even better. Oh...and Fox forks! Your answer is appreciated!
Man, you sure do a great job with your videos !
Ah man!!!! Thank you so much!! That means a lot! Thanks for the support!💪🏻
Fuse expert 29 a nice bike♥️👍(fr. Phils.)trying to save for this beauty.
Thanks, awesome video - gave me a lot of more models to look at. However, perhaps not a bike available for you guys in US or Canada - but the Rose Bonero looks very interesting!
Mostly ride a Transition Sentinel FS, but purchased a Cannondale Trail SE 1 recently. It has all the characteristics you describe. Just getting familiar with the bike, but am impressed so far.
Thanks for sharing Curt!👌🏻
You have done a extraordinary job educating us with these bikes. I would need to whatch the video again. I love how you day perfect on a few bikes when it came to geometry. My son is 15 but hes 6'2 and growing he is taking to riding at a younger age. I dont known what size bike to get him as a large may handle better being smaller. What do you think? Your in put is invaluable.
Thanks so much! If he likes dirt jumps and trials, go smaller… if he’s into riding steep trails, go with a longer reach. Cheers!🍻
I've just purchased an orbea laufey h10 2022 and love it 😀
Which one is the best: Slash 7 2022, Meta HT AM Race or Roscoe 8?
I have a Salsa from 2013 with a 71 degree HTA and 21" seat tube. Its tall and steep. I hate how tall it is, but I do like the steepness. Unfortunately, its not very nimble with a 450mm chainstay. You see to prefer HTA of around 65/66. That seems, to me, very downhill specific oriented. There are no huge downhill tracks here. Mostly flat tracks here with some drops and climbs. Lots of limestone and rock beds. Would I really want a geo like you suggest, or are you forgetting that not all MTB'ers downhill on mountains? I want something thats easy to manual and only really need 100-120mm travel. Being 6'4" the slacker the geo, the longer the bike gets, and an XL with a HTA of 64 ends up feeling like a limousine.
I got myself the Devinci Kobain, but unfortunately it is a couple years old so mine didn't come with a dropper post & came with Rockshox. Absolutely love the bike...slowly beginning to upgrade components on it, and she just keeps getting better!
Noice!👌🏻
Sorry about the end-screen homies!🥴
The TOP 10 budget full suspension list should be ready in the week or so. Pls watch the video TH-cam recommends in the meantime.🤘🏻
Can't wait for that one since I'm on the market for a new bike and need an expert opinion. I enjoyed this video but I'm leaning towards the full suspension bike a bit more
Hay man, great video👍
I am deciding between the Growler and the Scout 90, your list has the Growler way over the Scout, why is that?
I’m Canadian and so is Rocky… Both great bikes though… you can’t go wrong with either.👌🏻
im run a Marin SanQuentin with 150mm fox fork...it sick 🤘
nice video by the way 🫶
Ahh man!! Thank you so much!! That means a lot! I’m seriously blown away with how positive and supportive the audience has been for me and this new channel! Love to have you guys in the audience! Cheers!🍻
🔥🔥🔥 I’m building up a San Quentin 3 right now
Love it!!
Whyte 905 for me next week, i was going to get a Cube Reaction but gonna leave Electric for 12-18month
Trying to save some bucks…thoughts on going for the Roscoe 7 instead of 8? Great video.
Thanks MO! Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼
2021 Ragley Mmmbop with a 160mm fork . Cant beat perfection 🤗
Nuff said!😂
Hey, nice video, I have only done mountain biking once, and plan on doing it more often, as I have a couple of friends that I want to join on mountain biking...I want to get a bike that can help commute to work often to work (3 days a week), take my kid on a ride, but also take it to the trail or mountain, I am planning on getting the Specialized Trevor 3.0 hardtail. what do suggest? is that good option? thanks!!
Glad to see the marin sanquentin 3 getting some love.
Great vid Fella 👍🏻 . What are everybody's thoughts on a whyte 901 v4/v5 ? Any advive would be greatly appreciated ✌🏻
I just bought a marlin 6 after not riding for years, I never did any downhill riding or dirt jumping before. I know I'll maybe get laughed at for this comment but it seems like good quality for money for what I need it for.
No one’s laughing! Get out there and ride bikes!🤘🏻
Nice!! I'm liking the nuke proof.
Me too! Great bike!!
@@TopToBottomMTB the reflectors 😂😂
@@jesseonly1327 😂lol