I can't even think about that ending without tearing up a little. I went and saw Logan three times in the theater and every time you could hear people sobbing when Laura goes back to turn the cross. That is one of the most powerful moments I've ever seen in a movie.
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J Mouch I shed a tear just watching it here and teared up again reading your comment. what are these emotions?
I literally teared up reading your description of recalling the ending of Logan because of how deeply the ending affected me. Then again I'm a sensitive lil baby so take that one way or another.
A man has to be what he is, Joey. Can’t break the mold. There’s no living with the killing. There’s no going back. Right or wrong, it’s a brand. A brand that sticks. Now you run on home to your mother. You tell her everything’s alright. There are no more guns in the valley.
Im glad im not the only one who got emotional during this movie. Ive never been moved more by a scene in a movie. Not sure if it was because wolverine has always been my favorite xman or just how the scene was done. Probably both
Very good as usual. One thing, though: Logan didn't want to go live on the boat to be closer to nature, he wanted to live on the boat in the sea because it was the only place he could take Charles where there would be no innocent people around for Charles' powers to kill when he has his seizures. It's also well away from where mutants are being hunted.
I'm surprised you didn't address the "disappointments" motive of this movie. I think it's more interesting. How this movie is intentionally disappointing us. We start the movie off learning that Charles Xavier, the father figure of the X-men is now treated as a little baby and is constantnly drugged just to prevent him from killing everyone. All the mutants are dead. Logan goes into a Family's home in good intention just to find out he brought death on all of them. Logan giving the worst requiem speech I've seen in a movie just to freak out and pass out. in the end it's still a Greek tragedy and all the "Real" mutants died off and the only mutants that exists are lab grown which means that mutants are now extinct. Charles Xavier killed all the X-men because of his dementia
Absolutely the disappointment of how everything just keeps getting worse. It reminds me of those old movies like terminator 2 and others I can't remember
It's SO fitting that a movie based on Old Man Logan would be a Western since the original comic story was basically the plot of Unforgiven, even Mark Millar admitted it
It will never be Jackman. Unless of course he were to die and you were able to live for a couple hundred years so his identity can enter the public domain AND if anyone alive then still cared about him being the original Wolverine to make Hugh Jackman a holographic actor.
Well Mangold admitted in Making Of Logan that it's more based on X-23: Innocence Lost than Old Man Logan, although Old Man Logan elements were borrowed. Yes, Unforgiven is definitely one of them and it fits Logan's character perfectly.
Movies with gigantic plots are getting old. I'm sorry, but it's hard to connect with a movie when the plot is nonsensically evil bad guy tries to destroy the world through nonsensically complex means. That's basically the plot of every super hero movie except for the ones that actually turn out to be good.
The more complicated the plot, the more it relies upon convenient circumstances and unrealistic motivations for it to possibly happen. *cough BvS In the process of trying to create a "masterpiece", too many people create something that looks smart on the surface, but requires a liberal dose of suspension of disbelief. *cough The Dark Knight Rises When a complicated plot is done well though, its much more fulfilling than a simple one. Like woah.....that blew my mind. I don't really see this movies much though, but instead in tv where they have more time to do the story right.
holy crap, I've just noticed the parallel between Shane and Fallout. Seriously, hear me out: at the end of Fallout 1, the player character has saved the Vault, but has become something else, something wild, so its forced to leave forever. In Fallout 2, you're the descendant of this character, born in a tribe on the wild and you show up to the different cities as an outsider, helping them, but eventually leaving.
Zackapo - Except the main character in Shane, in the end, did not change, did not "break the mold". Contrast that against a tame Vault dweller changing into something wild.
ariana moore deadpool is way more than ok, it's really good it was nominated by the Writers guild award, that's something MCU shitty Movies don't even touch
Interestingly it is one of the few works of art not "officially" cited by the authors as inspirations yet there are scenes that look like a cinematic shout out. It is like with "Westworld" which took so much ideas and iconography from Fallout 4 and didn't even shy away from citing game influences from Bioshock to Red Dead Redemption yet not once mentioned Fallout.
Common anyone can do a good act if they DIE at the end the Romans had a Theater/acting style based entirely off this/that phenomonon. And yes most the actors in that Roman theater where slaves.
That's what I love about the X-Men movies (and Nolan's Batman series too), there's so much depth going on below the surface. Fantasy should be used for exploring the human condition, and feature analogies and allegory. That's what good fantasy does, and that's what the X-Men movies have been doing wonderfully, in addition to telling tall tales of superheroes and superpowers.
They intend them. Writers, good writers that is, understand the importance of symbolism, analogy, and allegory. They are the very soul of story telling, and most especially for fantasy story telling. Without that level of depth fantasy is pure fluff. Fantasy is best when it's used to explore the human condition from a perspective outside of the norm.
L0LWTF1337 Mobey Dick is often used as a metaphor for man against nature. Herman Melville famously didn't notice that until someone pointed it out to him. Anyway death of the author. Doesn't really matter.
hafabee Just wanted to point out the irony in your statement saying good fantasy writers use analogy, and allegory. JRR Tolkien has a quote in derect opposition to those things. "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history - true or feigned- with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author." -Tolkien Considering he's "the" fantasy writer I just think that's funny.
Eddie the Head; But The Lord of the Rings is completely analogous with Catholicism, and an allegory for ending war. Tolkien was definitely conscious of this when he wrote it, The Lord of the Rings is steeped in symbolism that is as true today as it was when he wrote it.
Eddie the Head; "Anyway death of the author." Indeed. I agree that the artists' intentions don't really enter into it, but rather what is actually there, in the body of the work, which matters.
Hey, CinemaWins sent me. I just wanna say that, unlike many of the "movie break-it-down" videos I've seen before, you guys dive truly deeper into the meanig of every little detail in this movie, and I applaude you. You've just earned another Sub, lads. Slán! ✌😁✌🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
I believe that I speak for everyone when I say literally nobody cares so go back to a cave you call a home and inquire as to why you ever that that was the right thing to do
When I left the theather after watching Age of Ultron, Guardians 2, Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad, I begun to realize how much these movies are bad. The more you think, the more they suck. Quite the opposite for Logan. This movie grows on you. He is so fucking good!
Dimitri Bitu over the past few years I've been certain that comic book movies should be coming to an end, they got too popular and too much of a comedic thing. Logan changed that completely. I'm so happy of what James Mangold created
oddly enough, it's the opposite for bvs for me. as I think about it more, I feel compelled to watch it and it gets better. but that's just me of course
Dunno if any of you are old enough to remember this, but in the 80's I began falling in love with Marvel comics, especially X-Men and Wolverine. Then in the 90's the comic book industry began pumping out ridiculous numbers of new titles and overselling the shit out of issues just to make money. It ruined the comic industry until image started putting out fresh titles. I believe the same is going to be true for comic movies. Folks are going to just get sick of them, especially when garbage like BvS, Suicide Squad, etc keep getting pumped out. We'll lose trust and they'll move on to some other genre.
Pity you had to waste all that money to unplug. At least you escaped the matrix; few people do. The next step is travelling to zion and enjoy the wicked raves. All you have to do is find a pay phone.
You can enclose land because there is a limited amount, the right guarantees the benefits and costs are exclusive to the user and the value of its option-use can be included in its price. The interaction of concepts are infinite. Even if mankind discovers all laws of science, we can't claim how many techne applications would exist. Content on TH-cam is created so quickly, I think intellectual property and patent lawyers are in a permanent lag in a sort of arms race.
@@FunkMastaMegaFlex I’ve only watched the first few episodes so far, but the first episode left me with such a unique feeling that I could literally feel in my gut. Beautifully well written. Just sad enough to make you feel for everyone involved, but not so sad that it’s difficult to watch. It takes itself seriously, but not so seriously that it can’t have comedy too. Great show. Too bad it got canceled for no reason.
At 5:44, referring to the film Shane, the comparison is between the farmers vs. the "cattle barons' monied interest" this REVERSES the roles usually described with enclosure. In England the rich and powerful enclosed the land and kept the poor out. Describe here is the land being enclosed by the weak and vulnerable.
Jim Hawkins Hey #Wisecrack I have some requests for Wisecrack Edition. The Philosophy of Stanley Kubrick The Philosophy of Coen Brothers The Philosophy of Cowboy Bebop The Philosophy of Monster (manga/anime) The Philosophy of Tom King (comic book writer) The Philosophy of Berserk The Philosophy of Trigun The Philosophy of The Wire The Philosophy of David Fincher The Philosophy of Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex The Philosophy of Paranoia Agent The Philosophy of Alan Moore
Kudakwashe Timba Logan isn't the first movie to incorporate other genre with superhero movie winter soldier was a spy thriller, Ant-Man was a heist movie, homecoming is a teen/coming of the age movie, gotg and Volume 2 are sci-fi movies.......so nothing new here
and this kinda make me feel kinda sad for the MCU. While they continue to make more money out of the formula they have been using, its hard to see that they will go out of their way and break their established mold, to make a movie like Logan in the near future. The type of movies they will continue to provide will always serve to fit the narrative of continuity and an upcoming sequel, that will usually hurt its quality of having to fulfill all that requirements
captainobvious90 the Main MCU serves a very general, non-comic fan audience. It is the paying audience that makes a movie succeed or fail. blame the market.
SantomPh not following the source material exactly is not the main problem tho, its how the movie is constructed to be compelling, and overall a great movie
The last argument on the enclosure of comic book art by big corporations was by far the most insightful and deserved way more examination. Could you please make a video on that, but focused on the genre as a whole? Foucault would most definitely agree with that analysis!
So from the world being openly racist to mutants, they sterilized them and started breeding the useful mutant for use. That's Orwellian+Ayn Randian And what happened to Magneto and the Brotherhood? Will MARVEL, SONY and FOX fix themselves before we lynch them for ruining the comics? And Logan, it has been a great and wild run. R.I.P.
Logan is better? Logan is generic and shallow. Don't confuse the mere superfical mention of dark themes as essence. Which is exactly what happens here - dark themes like death and personal tragedy are just simple means for creating drama here and nothing more. They aren't explored - the plot still revolves around escaping the bad guys and saving the children. Which is extremely generic. Logan has a simple plot structure with basic story arc and basic 2Dimensional charecters. The script is bad and filled with "fucks" so that it seems more mature and appeals to 16 year olds. The Dark Knight series is multy-layerd and just cannot be compared to this mediocre movie.
Sorry but there's more to episodes than can be summed up in three lines. Charlie Brooker is a borderline genius, and the meanings and Philosophy of each Black Mirror is not always blatantly obvious. Admittedly some episodes are easier to understand than others, but they're all extremely complex and very cleverly directed with nuances and subtle little things that make a big difference.
"Charlie Brooker is a borderline genius, and the meanings and Philosophy of each Black Mirror is not always blatantly obvious." Insert Jeremy's fake laugh.
Marigold openly stated he hates comic book movies or how they are being created. He made this after his grounded drama piece got cancelled by the studio because one of his stars got hurt and couldn't shoot. He didn't like the idea of directing a comic book movie so he sought to make it a more grounded, gritty and real film with real emotions and consequences. Wonderfully done video.
I enjoyed this a lot! Also I wwnt to see Ligan with no expectations abd ended up being completely awed. Love the ending, love the performances, great heartbreak.
Great Video! The editing with these little scenes and citations from the movies you talk about Support your statements so well! Entertaining and very well understandable this way! Keep up the fantastic work! P.S.: I'd love an episode about SHERLOCK:)
Captain Planet, He's our hero! He'll bring pollution down to zero! He's our powers, Magnified! And he's fighting on the planets side! ¡CAPTAIN PLANET!🌎💨🔥🌊❤
I though the movie was a statement about super-heros characters, we don't finding them amazing only because their super powers but for human of their fights. A movie about selfishness and "stand up" for your people beyond any forced order. I don't know.
Ehhh that's a pretty one-sided view of enclosure, at least in the American West. Part of the problem for poor farmers in the West were indeed free for animals to graze in -- which included the incredibly wealthy cattle barons. When driving cattle, un-enclosed land was "free" for ranging, and cattle were legally allowed to walk across your fields and strip them clean of the food. I get how it plays in to this story, but enclosure laws actually protected poor homesteaders against the rich too, and was not as nefarious as you make it out to be. Actually, public land (National Parks, BLM land, etc.) have more protections than private land that was un-enclosed, ironically. Heh.
This is "my Dark Knight" so to speak. Best comic book film that came at the exact right time, and also a film I will defend until the end is a masterpiece and a 10/10, working on so many levels and having close to 0 flaws.
I dont think the directly mention it in the movie so i cant be sure but its made clear in the comics that x-23 doesnt have a full metal skeleton like Logan. I think thats what they were trying to hint at in the video with her arms and legs cut open. they implanted the claws there
When I think "Modern Feminist Film," I imagine films like Wonder Woman, Mad Max: Fury Road, the two recent Star Wars films and maybe Moana. All of which are large-scaled stories of heroes and villains where the story just so happens to center around a woman. I do *NOT* imagine a run-of-the-mill harmless comedy that just so happens to also have ghosts in it for the sole purpose of justifying calling the film a reboot. Ghostbusters 2016 flew too close to TWO suns (being the reboot of an 80's science-comedy AND being a potential flag and mascot for the brand that is often referred to as "feminism") and it couldn't handle the pressure associated with either brand. As a result, it got fucking roasted (critically and financially). Either that, or films with the word "Ghost" in them are cursed to suffer political torment. This doesn't bode well for future Ghost Rider films.
Ahh beat me to it, I'm uploading a video on Logan too this friday, but I really liked this one! One small thing; I thought the 'nature' symbols were a little far fetched, in my opinion it is more likely that; Charles tending the garden served to juxtapose his new life with his former purpose, Logan wanting to buy the Sunseeker served to show his desire to escape from this world (where do you find more solitude than on the endless ocean?) and Charles comparing Laura to wilflife served to justify her foot claws. The enclosure part was pretty interesting though :)
Arturo Lira Di Stefano I don't see the point as the philosophy was at the forefront though. It would just be a more concise version, no? Interesting though.
bluebeanbaby maybe, but I dissection of the show, it's characters and their ideals can be quite informative, as in to try and understand their reasoning. I for once would like to expand on the idea that we as a race have become "too self aware"
How you worded the necessity of Logan's sacrifice for the more idyllic future for his daughter reminds me of that quote from John Adams: "I must study Politics and War that my sons may have liberty to study Mathematics and Philosophy. My sons ought to study Mathematics and Philosophy, Geography, natural History, Naval Architecture, navigation, Commerce and Agriculture, in order to give their Children a right to study Painting, Poetry, Music, Architecture, Statuary, Tapestry and Porcelain."
I can't even think about that ending without tearing up a little. I went and saw Logan three times in the theater and every time you could hear people sobbing when Laura goes back to turn the cross. That is one of the most powerful moments I've ever seen in a movie.
J Mouch I shed a tear just watching it here and teared up again reading your comment. what are these emotions?
They are emotions.
I literally teared up reading your description of recalling the ending of Logan because of how deeply the ending affected me. Then again I'm a sensitive lil baby so take that one way or another.
A man has to be what he is, Joey.
Can’t break the mold.
There’s no living with the killing. There’s no going back. Right or wrong, it’s a brand.
A brand that sticks.
Now you run on home to your mother. You tell her everything’s alright.
There are no more guns in the valley.
Im glad im not the only one who got emotional during this movie. Ive never been moved more by a scene in a movie. Not sure if it was because wolverine has always been my favorite xman or just how the scene was done. Probably both
Very good as usual. One thing, though: Logan didn't want to go live on the boat to be closer to nature, he wanted to live on the boat in the sea because it was the only place he could take Charles where there would be no innocent people around for Charles' powers to kill when he has his seizures. It's also well away from where mutants are being hunted.
After I saw this, I recommended it to my friends as 'Red Dead Wolverine'.
F1rsttime_online gay
Jack Windrammer Only on the weekends.
F1rsttime_online I call it "Laura the Explorer"
thejerg No one brought up DC lol.
The Last of Wolverine. Which is funny because I also think Hugh Jackman could play an absolutely stellar film version of Joel.
I'm surprised you didn't address the "disappointments" motive of this movie.
I think it's more interesting. How this movie is intentionally disappointing us.
We start the movie off learning that Charles Xavier, the father figure of the X-men is now treated as a little baby and is constantnly drugged just to prevent him from killing everyone.
All the mutants are dead.
Logan goes into a Family's home in good intention just to find out he brought death on all of them.
Logan giving the worst requiem speech I've seen in a movie just to freak out and pass out.
in the end it's still a Greek tragedy and all the "Real" mutants died off and the only mutants that exists are lab grown which means that mutants are now extinct.
Charles Xavier killed all the X-men because of his dementia
Absolutely the disappointment of how everything just keeps getting worse. It reminds me of those old movies like terminator 2 and others I can't remember
It's SO fitting that a movie based on Old Man Logan would be a Western since the original comic story was basically the plot of Unforgiven, even Mark Millar admitted it
Santiago Barrios I just wish I could see Hugh take on The Hulk before I die
It will never be Jackman.
Unless of course he were to die and you were able to live for a couple hundred years so his identity can enter the public domain AND if anyone alive then still cared about him being the original Wolverine to make Hugh Jackman a holographic actor.
Makes sense. Unforgiven is a sick movie.
This has more in common with Wolverine The End than Old Man Logan. Some people wish Old Man Logan had the depth of this movie.
Well Mangold admitted in Making Of Logan that it's more based on X-23: Innocence Lost than Old Man Logan, although Old Man Logan elements were borrowed. Yes, Unforgiven is definitely one of them and it fits Logan's character perfectly.
I got a very "Fury Road" vibe from it. It has minimal story, but is carried almost exclusively by its characters
Movies with gigantic plots are getting old. I'm sorry, but it's hard to connect with a movie when the plot is nonsensically evil bad guy tries to destroy the world through nonsensically complex means. That's basically the plot of every super hero movie except for the ones that actually turn out to be good.
Right? Complicated plots don't equal good plots
Globalistconspiracy *insert thank you gif here*
The more complicated the plot, the more it relies upon convenient circumstances and unrealistic motivations for it to possibly happen.
*cough BvS
In the process of trying to create a "masterpiece", too many people create something that looks smart on the surface, but requires a liberal dose of suspension of disbelief.
*cough The Dark Knight Rises
When a complicated plot is done well though, its much more fulfilling than a simple one. Like woah.....that blew my mind. I don't really see this movies much though, but instead in tv where they have more time to do the story right.
@akshay satish Sure, but it was also a more personal story
Logan is not a movie, it's an emotion.
The Joker Injustice League ok cool
The Joker Injustice League yeah sadness
It's overrated and cheesy
got'em
The main character getting killed by himself with a tree isn't cheesey.
You guys are too good. Seriously fantastic analysis on a fantastic film. You take the watching of films to another level.
holy crap, I've just noticed the parallel between Shane and Fallout. Seriously, hear me out: at the end of Fallout 1, the player character has saved the Vault, but has become something else, something wild, so its forced to leave forever. In Fallout 2, you're the descendant of this character, born in a tribe on the wild and you show up to the different cities as an outsider, helping them, but eventually leaving.
Zackapo - Except the main character in Shane, in the end, did not change, did not "break the mold". Contrast that against a tame Vault dweller changing into something wild.
Zackapo Ooooh....
You're onto to something.
I didn't get that that Logan wants to be free on the sea, i got that he was going off to die with Charles as far away from people he can get.
Robert Flanagan he wanted to get out of a World he no longer understands
Death is the ultimate freedom
Always feel smarter after these videos.
its an illusion.
Please consider Doing Philosophy of Samurai Jack!
I hink he did
Best comicbook movie since Dark Knight
Say What Again i Dare you i Double Dare you! since Deadpool. deadpool was the best since TDK
KamiKavi Logan was way better then deadpool. Deadpool was entertaining but it didn't have the emotion and the feels Logan did. It was just ok
ariana moore deadpool is way more than ok, it's really good it was nominated by the Writers guild award, that's something MCU shitty Movies don't even touch
It was ok. That's my opinion.
ariana moore i know Logan was better that's what i said. read my comment.
9:52 The elemental forces.
Ice. Electricity. Grass.
LOGAN
The only Marvel movie I will never be able to rewatch without bursting into tears.
endgame?
@@sammoayed1440 TBH Logan's death was more emotional than Tony's death.
@@Ryan-jd4nb i agree, but still
I kind of got a Last of Us feeling from the movie.
Interestingly it is one of the few works of art not "officially" cited by the authors as inspirations yet there are scenes that look like a cinematic shout out. It is like with "Westworld" which took so much ideas and iconography from Fallout 4 and didn't even shy away from citing game influences from Bioshock to Red Dead Redemption yet not once mentioned Fallout.
Sarah Andrea Royce westworld has bioshock references?!
Sorry, no, I guess I was typing too fast.Another game the Westworld crew cited was GTA
The one movie that goes so far to feel like an inofficial Bioshock movie is World of Tomorrow.
Same, all through the movie
Jeez, that ending was depressing. I wish more Marvel movies would leave stronger impacts like Logan. I legit almost cried at that movie!
guardians of the galaxy vol 2 was pretty impactful at the end
Common anyone can do a good act if they DIE at the end the Romans had a Theater/acting style based entirely off this/that phenomonon. And yes most the actors in that Roman theater where slaves.
But yeah i cried just watching this lol it was good.
That's what I love about the X-Men movies (and Nolan's Batman series too), there's so much depth going on below the surface. Fantasy should be used for exploring the human condition, and feature analogies and allegory. That's what good fantasy does, and that's what the X-Men movies have been doing wonderfully, in addition to telling tall tales of superheroes and superpowers.
Hvaddafuck4 In fairness there's only two good ones he's in. X2 and Logan.
Logan is in my top 5 superhero films of all time. One of the best movies in 2017.
What if I told you guys you can like Marvel and DC?
agree
Never!
I would call you a liar.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no
DCEU only has Wonder Woman
Idea Channel!! Yes!!!
one of my newer favorite youtube shows promoting one of my old favorite youtube shows!
Samurai Jack???
Man
This video makes me a little happier for having worked on this movie!
Thanks for that!
I always wonder... do the writers actually intend all these themes or is it all just accidental?
They intend them. Writers, good writers that is, understand the importance of symbolism, analogy, and allegory. They are the very soul of story telling, and most especially for fantasy story telling. Without that level of depth fantasy is pure fluff. Fantasy is best when it's used to explore the human condition from a perspective outside of the norm.
L0LWTF1337 Mobey Dick is often used as a metaphor for man against nature. Herman Melville famously didn't notice that until someone pointed it out to him.
Anyway death of the author. Doesn't really matter.
hafabee Just wanted to point out the irony in your statement saying good fantasy writers use analogy, and allegory. JRR Tolkien has a quote in derect opposition to those things.
"I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history - true or feigned- with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author." -Tolkien
Considering he's "the" fantasy writer I just think that's funny.
Eddie the Head; But The Lord of the Rings is completely analogous with Catholicism, and an allegory for ending war. Tolkien was definitely conscious of this when he wrote it, The Lord of the Rings is steeped in symbolism that is as true today as it was when he wrote it.
Eddie the Head; "Anyway death of the author." Indeed. I agree that the artists' intentions don't really enter into it, but rather what is actually there, in the body of the work, which matters.
Hey, CinemaWins sent me. I just wanna say that, unlike many of the "movie break-it-down" videos I've seen before, you guys dive truly deeper into the meanig of every little detail in this movie, and I applaude you. You've just earned another Sub, lads. Slán! ✌😁✌🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
I LOVE LOGAN
Logan! You've got some splainin to do!
Epic Music Movie nobody cares
Aradia Megido go home nobody likes you
I believe that I speak for everyone when I say literally nobody cares so go back to a cave you call a home and inquire as to why you ever that that was the right thing to do
takes one to know one honey
Literally none of this occurred to me while watching the film - this makes it so much better
When I left the theather after watching Age of Ultron, Guardians 2, Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad, I begun to realize how much these movies are bad. The more you think, the more they suck.
Quite the opposite for Logan. This movie grows on you. He is so fucking good!
Dimitri Bitu over the past few years I've been certain that comic book movies should be coming to an end, they got too popular and too much of a comedic thing. Logan changed that completely. I'm so happy of what James Mangold created
i can understand the others but guardian 2
oddly enough, it's the opposite for bvs for me. as I think about it more, I feel compelled to watch it and it gets better. but that's just me of course
Dunno if any of you are old enough to remember this, but in the 80's I began falling in love with Marvel comics, especially X-Men and Wolverine. Then in the 90's the comic book industry began pumping out ridiculous numbers of new titles and overselling the shit out of issues just to make money. It ruined the comic industry until image started putting out fresh titles. I believe the same is going to be true for comic movies. Folks are going to just get sick of them, especially when garbage like BvS, Suicide Squad, etc keep getting pumped out. We'll lose trust and they'll move on to some other genre.
Pity you had to waste all that money to unplug. At least you escaped the matrix; few people do. The next step is travelling to zion and enjoy the wicked raves. All you have to do is find a pay phone.
Clear my schedule. This is important.
"...for what may be one of the best depictions of a super hero ever."
hard to disagree there. Great stuff guys!
So Enclosure is what's happening to TH-cam right now?
You can enclose land because there is a limited amount, the right guarantees the benefits and costs are exclusive to the user and the value of its option-use can be included in its price.
The interaction of concepts are infinite. Even if mankind discovers all laws of science, we can't claim how many techne applications would exist. Content on TH-cam is created so quickly, I think intellectual property and patent lawyers are in a permanent lag in a sort of arms race.
The degree of success does not determine the validity of the attempt.
I.E. they may be failing, but that doesn't mean they're not _trying_.
TH-cam has never not been enclosed.
I see Logan I click.
any chance of a vid on berserk?
I wouldn't mind that
inhumanMilitia / I'm reading berserk now. great.
yes please
inhumanMilitia hope it's on the manga and not the new anime.. Anything but the new berserk anime.
The old anime please
Please do the philosophy of Hannibal (TV Series)
magneto was right all along
Tragic
Cowboy Bebopp!?
PLEASE. I cant find a good analysis of it
Cowboy Bebop was a much greater story than Logan.
@@FunkMastaMegaFlex I’ve only watched the first few episodes so far, but the first episode left me with such a unique feeling that I could literally feel in my gut. Beautifully well written. Just sad enough to make you feel for everyone involved, but not so sad that it’s difficult to watch. It takes itself seriously, but not so seriously that it can’t have comedy too. Great show. Too bad it got canceled for no reason.
still waiting for the philosophy of Mr. Robot
gerceval oh yeah! I want to see that so bad!
You gonna wait
At 5:44, referring to the film Shane, the comparison is between the farmers vs. the "cattle barons' monied interest" this REVERSES the roles usually described with enclosure. In England the rich and powerful enclosed the land and kept the poor out. Describe here is the land being enclosed by the weak and vulnerable.
Wow, what an amazing job guys, keep going!!!
There was far more depth in this movie than I realised! Thanks for opening up my mind!
Philosophy of NBC's Hannibal...DO IT
fuck yes
or just a new season
Y'all just made this movie so much better
please do a philosophy of Full Metal Alchemist brotherhood please #Wisecrack
FeedTheWolves also about control too.
Wisecrack did a really good job with this analysis
"The Philosophy of Cowboy Bebop", there is a movie and a series you can chose, come on... Do It pls :(
hell yeah
Channel Criswell did a great friccin video on that topic.
Jim Hawkins Hey #Wisecrack I have some requests for Wisecrack Edition.
The Philosophy of Stanley Kubrick
The Philosophy of Coen Brothers
The Philosophy of Cowboy Bebop
The Philosophy of Monster (manga/anime)
The Philosophy of Tom King (comic book writer)
The Philosophy of Berserk
The Philosophy of Trigun
The Philosophy of The Wire
The Philosophy of David Fincher
The Philosophy of Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex
The Philosophy of Paranoia Agent
The Philosophy of Alan Moore
A big YES!!
Yaaaass please! Only then can I die happy. #cowboybebop
Crazy how much this channel changed after Jared left. Such a dramatic drop in quality and substance.
That's an unstelling thought that the day will come when superhero movies are replaced by an entirely different genre and are left in obscurity.
Humans need superheroes. Think back to the Greek Gods, Roman Gods, Jesus, etc. Humans will invent superheroes for their time.
Kudakwashe Timba I'm not gonna lie, I'm incredibly tired of superhero movies.
why not mix superhero movies with other genres? comedy? horror? drama? spy thriller? etc. superhero movies will never die, they are immortal.
Kudakwashe Timba Logan isn't the first movie to incorporate other genre with superhero movie winter soldier was a spy thriller, Ant-Man was a heist movie, homecoming is a teen/coming of the age movie, gotg and Volume 2 are sci-fi movies.......so nothing new here
I didn't think it was going to be a take on the film like this one, but I really enjoyed it! Pleasantly supplied!
and this kinda make me feel kinda sad for the MCU. While they continue to make more money out of the formula they have been using, its hard to see that they will go out of their way and break their established mold, to make a movie like Logan in the near future. The type of movies they will continue to provide will always serve to fit the narrative of continuity and an upcoming sequel, that will usually hurt its quality of having to fulfill all that requirements
captainobvious90 the Main MCU serves a very general, non-comic fan audience. It is the paying audience that makes a movie succeed or fail. blame the market.
SantomPh not following the source material exactly is not the main problem tho, its how the movie is constructed to be compelling, and overall a great movie
The last argument on the enclosure of comic book art by big corporations was by far the most insightful and deserved way more examination. Could you please make a video on that, but focused on the genre as a whole? Foucault would most definitely agree with that analysis!
So from the world being openly racist to mutants, they sterilized them and started breeding the useful mutant for use.
That's Orwellian+Ayn Randian
And what happened to Magneto and the Brotherhood?
Will MARVEL, SONY and FOX fix themselves before we lynch them for ruining the comics?
And Logan, it has been a great and wild run. R.I.P.
This is incredible! Thank you so much for helping me interrupt this film better
Logan was for Wolverine what Dark Knight was for Batman. Like if you agree.
Brandon Lawson not as good as those movies tho
Never understood why Dark Knight was so popular.
+Andrés Barroso Maybe because it's a masterpiece? Heath Ledger is still a waaaay better actor than Hugh Jackman ever was
Useless Username - Ledger's portrayal of the Joker was not merely him "acting crazy".
Logan is better?
Logan is generic and shallow. Don't confuse the mere superfical mention of dark themes as essence.
Which is exactly what happens here - dark themes like death and personal tragedy are just simple means for creating drama here and nothing more. They aren't explored - the plot still revolves around escaping the bad guys and saving the children. Which is extremely generic.
Logan has a simple plot structure with basic story arc and basic 2Dimensional charecters. The script is bad and filled with "fucks" so that it seems more mature and appeals to 16 year olds.
The Dark Knight series is multy-layerd and just cannot be compared to this mediocre movie.
Here from CinemaWins, just wanted to give that bastard credit.
Would love to see The Philosophy of the Sopranos!
Cant get enough of Wisecrack ! You guys Rock!
Philosophy of Black Mirror!
The Real PyroManiac Agreed!
user name They could do a couple of videos like they've done with South Park
Tyler Jaynes Well yeah but I'd still like to see them dissect it. I mean it's the same deal w/ Logan and other shows like South Park
Sorry but there's more to episodes than can be summed up in three lines. Charlie Brooker is a borderline genius, and the meanings and Philosophy of each Black Mirror is not always blatantly obvious. Admittedly some episodes are easier to understand than others, but they're all extremely complex and very cleverly directed with nuances and subtle little things that make a big difference.
"Charlie Brooker is a borderline genius, and the meanings and Philosophy of each Black Mirror is not always blatantly obvious."
Insert Jeremy's fake laugh.
Thanks Wiserack, it was so good!
You know I always wonder "when did we give away our natural freedoms and rights?"
This enclosure thing is the first hint I've gotten out of anything.
honestly, these videos make me appreciate things a lot more!
This movie was so good
Marigold openly stated he hates comic book movies or how they are being created. He made this after his grounded drama piece got cancelled by the studio because one of his stars got hurt and couldn't shoot. He didn't like the idea of directing a comic book movie so he sought to make it a more grounded, gritty and real film with real emotions and consequences. Wonderfully done video.
Our heroes are aging and so are we. 😔
snort a pill doc, your emotions are manifesting again
Squanchy You can go squanch yourself
Squanchy I read that in Squanchys voice
my voice is the precise voice to read my comments in
I enjoyed this a lot! Also I wwnt to see Ligan with no expectations abd ended up being completely awed. Love the ending, love the performances, great heartbreak.
Next episode: The philosophy of Logan's beard
Great Video! The editing with these little scenes and citations from the movies you talk about Support your statements so well! Entertaining and very well understandable this way! Keep up the fantastic work!
P.S.: I'd love an episode about SHERLOCK:)
Do a Philosophy of Neon Genesis Evangelion please
The stuff about enclosure was really good. Finally a philosophy edition that taught me something
Captain Planet, He's our hero!
He'll bring pollution down to zero!
He's our powers, Magnified!
And he's fighting on the planets side!
¡CAPTAIN PLANET!🌎💨🔥🌊❤
Well...your user name says it all.
Best Wisecrack video yet.
pleasse do The leflovers, one of the most philosophical programs ever!!!
this is the best "philosophy of" video I've seen yet
I though the movie was a statement about super-heros characters, we don't finding them amazing only because their super powers but for human of their fights. A movie about selfishness and "stand up" for your people beyond any forced order. I don't know.
Ugh! This is so good! You guys are so smart!!
What a time to be a comic book fan!!
Wow. This is your best yet
Ehhh that's a pretty one-sided view of enclosure, at least in the American West. Part of the problem for poor farmers in the West were indeed free for animals to graze in -- which included the incredibly wealthy cattle barons. When driving cattle, un-enclosed land was "free" for ranging, and cattle were legally allowed to walk across your fields and strip them clean of the food.
I get how it plays in to this story, but enclosure laws actually protected poor homesteaders against the rich too, and was not as nefarious as you make it out to be. Actually, public land (National Parks, BLM land, etc.) have more protections than private land that was un-enclosed, ironically. Heh.
This is "my Dark Knight" so to speak. Best comic book film that came at the exact right time, and also a film I will defend until the end is a masterpiece and a 10/10, working on so many levels and having close to 0 flaws.
Everybody is so distracted on how good Logan was that no one thought how stupid is a adamantium skeleton in a child which will probable grow up.
I dont think the directly mention it in the movie so i cant be sure but its made clear in the comics that x-23 doesnt have a full metal skeleton like Logan. I think thats what they were trying to hint at in the video with her arms and legs cut open. they implanted the claws there
she doesn't have an adamantium skeleton, just the claws.
you played yourself. only her claws are adamantium,
No just her claws are adamentium
X-23 doesn’t have adamantium everywhere like Logan, just on her hand and foot claws
My sister and I both cried at the end of that movie. I got a little choked up when they mentioned the eulogy scene
Ghostbusters (2016): What Went Wrong?
Travon Armstrong the whole movie was wrong.
Sadly - yes. Story is too cliche, character development at almost zero level. I kinda like the idea of the movie, but the execution...
When I think "Modern Feminist Film," I imagine films like Wonder Woman, Mad Max: Fury Road, the two recent Star Wars films and maybe Moana. All of which are large-scaled stories of heroes and villains where the story just so happens to center around a woman.
I do *NOT* imagine a run-of-the-mill harmless comedy that just so happens to also have ghosts in it for the sole purpose of justifying calling the film a reboot.
Ghostbusters 2016 flew too close to TWO suns (being the reboot of an 80's science-comedy AND being a potential flag and mascot for the brand that is often referred to as "feminism") and it couldn't handle the pressure associated with either brand. As a result, it got fucking roasted (critically and financially).
Either that, or films with the word "Ghost" in them are cursed to suffer political torment. This doesn't bode well for future Ghost Rider films.
just a few shots of the death scene or laura making the cross an ex at the end is enough to make me tear up
the last thing about the mcu… yeah…
4:50 CALLED IT! Thank you Environmental Anthropology class.
Ahh beat me to it, I'm uploading a video on Logan too this friday, but I really liked this one! One small thing; I thought the 'nature' symbols were a little far fetched, in my opinion it is more likely that; Charles tending the garden served to juxtapose his new life with his former purpose, Logan wanting to buy the Sunseeker served to show his desire to escape from this world (where do you find more solitude than on the endless ocean?) and Charles comparing Laura to wilflife served to justify her foot claws. The enclosure part was pretty interesting though :)
Like Stories of Old Save your things for your video! You don't wanna run out of things to say.
No worries, there's plenty left ;)
Where's the video
Waw ! Well done. This movie is really good and better than I thought.
Aka, the philosophy of Lachrymology.
Great video. I loved this movie. It makes me want to check out more westerns
Philosophy of Channel 4's Utopia.
you know whats good!
wisecrack ... you're awesome.....
you always give a new point of view to the core ...!!! Really Liked your videos..!!
The Philosophy of True Detective Season 1!
Arturo Lira Di Stefano yes yes yes fucking yes
Arturo Lira Di Stefano I don't see the point as the philosophy was at the forefront though. It would just be a more concise version, no? Interesting though.
I concur! Awesome idea. "What is that, Nietzsche? Shut the fuck up." Fuck off, Nietzsche! :))
bluebeanbaby maybe, but I dissection of the show, it's characters and their ideals can be quite informative, as in to try and understand their reasoning. I for once would like to expand on the idea that we as a race have become "too self aware"
OH YEAH DO TRUE DETECTIVE S1
to bad it took 17 years to make a good wolverine movie
Buen video, compadre!
[good job, Jared (&co.)]
The Philosophy of AMERICAN PSYCHO
You gus have been killing it with the uploads lately, keep it up, and do a vid on cowboy bebop
please do one on Evangelion. id love to hear what you have to say.
Thanks a lot for that last one reflection. Peace for you, man!
Please, do the philosophy of Steven Universe
Imperialism can forgiven b/c love and family
Wow, thanks for saving this movie for me!
All I got from it was old grumpy men being grumpy.
Nice to see it all did have a point in the end
Band of Brothers Philosophy please.
How you worded the necessity of Logan's sacrifice for the more idyllic future for his daughter reminds me of that quote from John Adams:
"I must study Politics and War that my sons may have liberty to study Mathematics and Philosophy. My sons ought to study Mathematics and Philosophy, Geography, natural History, Naval Architecture, navigation, Commerce and Agriculture, in order to give their Children a right to study Painting, Poetry, Music, Architecture, Statuary, Tapestry and Porcelain."