Step Aside, Rubio; The Game has Changed | Hardwax Oil Comparison | The Wood Whisperer
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00:00 Intro to hard wax oils 2 component finish
02:38 Details of each finish in the test
05:28 What are we testing the finish on
06:24 Safety warning
06:46 Application
08:40 Next Day Raking Light Results
09:42 Another 24-hour Drying Results
10:08 Blind Test - Most and Least Sheen
11:47 2 Important things
12:49 2 Things to test durability
13:46 Advantage to using on floors
14:11 Wiping Varnish Shootout
15:22 Focusing on liquid penetration
16:31 Take an online woodworking class with Marc
17:21 How we rated damage to the boards
18:27 The results of the damage tests
19:00 How long does it take for the oil to harden
20:35 Repair Test
22:39 Repair Test Results
22:55 Experience with Repairing Flooring
23:25 Repairing Furniture
24:20 Logical Conclusions
25:04 "Toughest Finish" Award
25:15 "Best Looking" Award
26:01 "Best Value" Award
26:19 Overall Winner
26:50 Wrap Up
27:56 2 additional things to think about
29:29 Oreo
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We are honored to be reviewed by Marc, a true craftsman who we all admire. Many thanks for putting so much effort for this fair and informative analyses. We believe all brands share the same goal, which is making easy to use, affordable, environmental friendly and sustainable high quality products for woodworking community. We will keep working hard to improve our products and supply the best solutions to woodworkers.
Is there an easy way to get your products from Europe without going through the hassle and costs of overseas imports?
@@vdisI wonder as well.
First, thank you so much for this comprehensive analysis of these products! Second, that is one of my all time favorite movies!
It’s my person opinion, that there isn’t a one size fits all product and anyone of these would be fine for certain jobs. DIY Wife used Rubio stains on a huge hutch build but can’t remember if she used their 2c hard wax. Now I have to go back and watch. Again, thanks for all the time you spent on this, it was truly very informative and I was schooled on hard wax finishes! 👍🏻
We are planning to expand our Amazon business to Europe soon. Thanks again for your interest.
@@NaturaOnecoat Some ETA would be nice 😉
Thank you very much for the honest and thorough approach to your testing! We're very excited we're we ranked in your testing. Thank you very much for the publicity of our products!
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We build furniture everyday and use several different finishes. The one thing that concerned me was the change in color after setting out overnight. Should I be concerned about that? Any idea what caused that change compared to the others?
We thank Marc very much for this info. I am a hobbyist and have never tried any of these. Mainly because I only knew of Rubio. The cost to me was a no go. So I will be trying rustic on my first time out.
@@woodwhispererrandom question, but is your father a barber in NJ?
And this is why you are my favorite woodworking channel! No BS no trying to sell us anything. Just good honest information! Keep up the great work!
To say a company "might be in trouble" after performing a biased (he prefers more sheen) and subjective comparison is laughably all speculation and click bait.
I am glad to hear that you have found this book to be very informative and helpful for your woodworking project th-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO It sounds like you are well prepared and confident to build furniture for your house. I commend you and your friend for your enthusiasm and willingness to learn new things from this book. I hope you enjoy your woodworking journey and create some beautiful pieces.
Me personally, as a hobbyist/artist/small business - the one barrier to using Rubio before was the price. Knowing there are cheaper products with similar results, gives me hope.
Rubio does go a long way a 100ml bottle top bottom 4x8 if anything its for hobbyists should love it because it's ease of use. Price comparative when you factor in time/coats/durability factors. only 150 grit needed.
I agree!
I recently used Rubio for the first time to finish a chessboard. The price was the reason I hadn't tried it sooner. But the saying "a little goes a long way" couldn't be more true when talking about Rubio. I was amazed at how little it took to finish the chessboard and how easy it is to apply. That said, I will be trying these other products in the future.
I saw a video by ENCurtis recently that was discussing differences between TH-cam/influencer woodworking channels and professional woodworking practices, and that was one of the things he mentioned.
Rubio is one of the most popular finishes on TH-cam, but he said that Osmo was much more common in the professional shops he had worked in
A little goes a long way with Natura also. I recently decided to give it a try, and used 60g of finish and 20g of hardener to put two coats on a recipe box I was making. I had enough left over to give a small coffee table 2 coats as well.
Bravo to General Finishes for putting the hardener in a container that is actually easy to use and close. I inevitably get that pull-out spout thing completely covered and stuck inside the little can.
So true!
Waterlox is my drink of choice. It's a tung oil varnish, not synthetic. Polyurethane is synthetic, that's what poly means.
Waterlox is my drink of choice. It's a tung oil varnish, not a polyurethane. Polyurethane is synthetic, which is what poly means.
@@mikeamboy7292 Recently used Waterlox for the first time and I totally agree, was amazed with the results and ease of application
@@warrenwerksHow easy is it to repair waterlox?
Drop the Mic Marc! This is absolutely the reason why I support this channel. TWW brings more knowledge than most woodworking channels and he has the years of experience to back it up! Fantastic video and better information. The spinning cans turned out perfect thanks to Jason!
It’s always nice to know you have options! I thank you for the time and effort
thanks for taking the time to do all these test. great information to help decide what you need and what is now available.
Awesome video! I love the in-depth and unbiased approach you take to get the best results in your tests! I think I speak for most when I say these videos are super helpful and I truly appreciate you doing the types of test I’d want to do, to find the best product given the time, recourses, finances etc!
The quality of your videos has gone up dramatically in the past year or two. Not having to worry about sponsors has significantly improved your channel IMO. Thanks for the excellent test! I've been finishing all my furniture with Rubio for several years now. Looks like it's time to give Natura a try!
I see it has been 6 months since this comment so I doubt you will see this. Did you try Natura? How did you like it compared to Rubio?
I have been watching you forever and you never disappoint . Your evaluations are always clear, concise and researched. Thank you for what you do!!
This is next level content! Thanks for all of your contributions to the woodworking community.
This was super helpful. Have been thinking about giving this category of finishes a try and this is a solid, thorough, and informative roundup.
Thanks as always Marc! I was just about to finally try a hard wax oil finish for the first time and this was exactly the information I needed. Thanks for the years of great information and entertainment!
I'm astounded at the effort and thought that went into testing these. Thank you for the time you put in! I've only used Rubio before now, but will check out Osmo next time.
This is superb--hanks so much this presentation, Marc. ALSO--I strongly support you doing "theme" shows on Fridays--focusing on a particular tool, intervention, or some other aspect of working with wood. I've owned a Laguna bandsaw for 20 + years, and love it, but always think I can learn more (especially about getting brave enough to cut "free-handed", not using the fence). And even if I don't have the tool you were working on--like the jointer, for example, it is a pleasure to learn something new. Keep up the great work.
Wow that was great! Extremely valuable information for the novice wood worker and diy’er! I’m super grateful for the time and energy you put into this video.
Great comparison. Loved how thorough and open you were about obtaining and reporting both subjective versus objective conclusions. Thank you for putting the time and effort into sharing this with us.
The nice thing about Osmo is that they have several different options for hard wax oil (matte, satin, semi-matte, transparent, different hues). And they offer cheap samples, so I just ordered 6 of them and tested them on some birch plywood. Really affordable and nice way to pick out the specific oil that fits best with the wood species you're working on.
Agreed, the variety at Osmo is important to some.
Thank you for another amazing video. You give the most thorough explanations, one of the most detailed guys out there, if not the most. I’m definitely going to check out the learning link. I had one long ago when I was studying photography and it was super helpful. If yours is anything like that, this will be a win win. Thanks again.
Well worth the watch. Informative on many camps. Much appreciate the non biased and extensively thorough testing.
Great unbiased analysis and awesome information for fellow woodworkers! I honestly didn’t know about three of these products. Thanks Marc for your due diligence and sharing of knowledge. This channel (IMO) is a must for woodworkers.
This is absolutely bloody brilliant, Mark, such a great bit of work
This was your best video EVER! Appreciate the time and effort you put into this one. Thanks,
Very useful product evaluation. I feel that your testing and analysis give me the confidence to try one of these finishes and not be surprised by the results.
Great information. I really appreciate how comprehensive your testing was!
Extremely, EXTREMELY well done video. You’ve put a lot of thought into this video…results, benefits, possible perceived bias, sustainability and ecological considerations. It made me question, but more importantly it encouraged me to think and to become more open minded.
Thank you for your time, energy, honesty, and professionalism.
Fantastic testing, Marc! Thanks a bunch!!! 😃
I hope some of them get here to Brazil soon!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
This was the absolute best video on finishes I have seen. I will be trying some of the lower cost finishes as a result! Thanks for the effort to take a scientific approach.
Thanks for taking the time to do this! It is very helpful.
The presentation, options, testing decisions, and all made this VERY interesting and enjoyable to watch. So interesting and enjoyable that I could ignore the inserts and sounds. Your scientific background shows through in the best of ways. Congrats!
Thanks for this, Marc. As expected, you provided in-depth, thorough, exhaustive testing with "actionable" results. But using a CAT scanner is next level!
Excellent video, content was covered awesomely. Thank you for all you do. I have been a fan of yours for quite some time, and you never disappoint. Thanks again for the great video.
WOW ... that was a lot of work Marc ... thanks for all the effort and measurable results
Marc is the Dean of the Woodworkers. No one else does all that extensive research or as well as you do. Bravo!!
Congrats on creating a very clear and thorough video on hard wax oil options! One apparently unique feature of Rubio (at least among the example included in this test) is the wide range of color options available - I am partial to Midnight Indigo and Velvet Green... If you (or anyone who happens to see this reply) is aware of a method for adding color to hard wax oils I would love to learn about it.
Awesome test and presentation Marc. I also have you at the top of my list of great content and reliable information for enhancing my skills. Please keep on keepin’ on.
Thank you for the shootout Marc, this is some highly valuable information and I'm excited to have some less expensive options to try in my hobby shop!
I have now watched this review twice. Once when it first came out and again today when I wanted to review it again. Great work as usual Marc. You are highly credible and do not loan your reputation to others. I am about to order my first of a two component finish and this was very helpful. Thank you for all that you do! I truly appreciate your work. All the Best!
Such a thorough test. Bravo and keep up the amazing work
I found this sort of video quite interesting. I think it's the scientists in me liking the way you go through the data. Thanks, Marc.
Mark excellent job on breaking down the details of each product. Thank you for the facts
Absolutely phenomenal review.... Thorough, scientific and pleasing to watch/listen. Great work!
Great video. These shootouts are very informative and you do a great job of being as unbiased as possible. Thanks.
Thank you for making this video. I've been using Rubio for a few years and whilst it's a good finish, there is absolutely no reason for it to be as expensive as it is. In Australia we're paying about USD$270 for the 1.3L tin where as in the US it seems to be ~$180.
I really appreciate this video! I’ve mostly used spray lacquer up until now and was considering Rubio just due to all the TH-camrs that use it.
I love the effort that went into this video. I have always used 2 coats of Rubio on projects that are not handled much: picture frames/floating shelves/ect. When it comes to furniture though Matt Cremonas 5 coats of general finish armor seal is awesome. I'm not even bothered that its not as "serviceable" as other finishes.
Relating to something important mentioned in this video, I always bring up durability when talking about different species of wood to clients. If a client has kids and wants a dining table made out of a wood that doesn't stand up to wear and tear, I really try to ask them what they like about the species and find a comparable one. The Wood species and use always dictates what finish I use.
Definitely changed my mind! Working on a bar that encompasses live edge counter and your comments resonated because of the results and value! Well done!!
awesome review. I expected bigger differences, considering the differences in price. And I couldn't think of any other test that would have been sense. Thanks for all your hard work guys!
Couldn’t come out at a better time, my Rubio just ran out. Going to try that natura now. I’ve had my eye on it for a while but hadn’t seen much about it. Thanks for a great vid
Really really really awesome comparison. I will be ordering some of these to try. Thank you for introducing me to some of these.
Thanks for this video. Obvious that you put in a significant amount of work into this. Thank you!
Marc, thank you very much for the investment of time and thought that you put into this review! You provided lots of useful information. I would not have had the time or resources to perform these comparisons, so I really value the resource your testing creates.
Thanks for doing this. I have been waiting for the comparison video because I am about ready to finish a bed I am making for my daughter. I am planning on using a hardwax finish for the first time and may well adjust my initial product choice now.
I see Rubio on TH-cam but have never purchased due to price. I like knowing there are less expensive options as a hobbyist. Great and fair comparison.
Great comparison Marc 👏Shame about the inconclusive results on the spot repair test. Would have been the clear winner for a clumsy donut like myself
Thank you so much for this excellent review! Rubio is so expensive and I'm excited to try something with less cost. I love wood working and am still learning!
I'm glad you mentioned personal preference regarding sheen. I rely on gloss for durability. But from an aesthetics point of view, less sheen lets us see more color and grain which looks better than white light glaring back at me.
I am a long time hobbyist in woodworking and have been using Waterlox and ArmRSeal for small tables etc. I have been interested to maybe change what I use and found your video informative and really thorough.
Thank You for such a great video.
Another quality comparison video! Thanks so much 🎉
My big brother, got sick...GOT BETTER, regain his ability to " screw around in the garage" and short of it all....learned to love birds like his little sister, that's me and started making bird feeders, bird houses etc, b4 you know it his daughter set up an Etsy acct and he tinkers with wood building said feeders/ bird houses to custom things...consoles, decor inside & outside etc etc. So my point is...this was EXTREMELY helpful to him & I was simply pleased to receive a lengthy ( I'm not a fan of the "Shorts") video from you again! So thx you for all the info my brother is now moling over for his benefit and thx you for posting. ID love to see more from you in your shop like we used too! Nonetheless I'm not going anywhere...I've been a fan 4 years.
Admirable attention to detail. Well done and thank you.
The King is Dead!
Thanks for putting in the grunt work to evaluate all of these new entries into the hardwax oil space. I've been particularly curious about the General Finishes offering, but it is good to see all of these examples put through their paces. After watching this I'll probably check out the Osmo... I've had good luck with the Polyx but have been missing the great sheen from a varnish, hopefully this two part option will hit both marks.
Very well done! Love the Kitten! It's really nice to have options. All the finishes seem to work well enough and similarly enough for my purposes. I remember when Osmo was the only game in town and still very difficult to get, while meeting my use criteria: accessibility, repairability, ease of application & environmental impact, i.e., to mine & my family's environment. Thank you!
As a hobbyist who wants to move into having my own business one day, this was amazingly helpful. Thanks for the time and effort that you put into this. Well done!
It is easier to make it if you focus on built in furniture such as kitchens, closets, book cases and so on. It is much harder to compete in the stand alone furniture field due to the sheer volume of cheap mass produced furniture.
This was a well thought out and thorough examination. From a small
Shop near Detroit Michigan, I appreciate you doing this test. I have used Rubio a handful of times but haven’t used these other products. Lately I have been using Odie’s oil. Not because I am pushing it, but my customers have been selecting it when looking at samples. I would love to see your findings testing that product agains other finishes to see what you find.
That was an amazing video. Informational, honest, great coverage. Huge thanks.
Thank you for practical testing & focusing on both making projects & living with the finish.
Great video Marc very help information for the hoppiest woodworker with so many great options and so much insight. Thanks for sharing 👏👏👏
I just tried Rubio fir the first time this weekend. I found it hard to spread and didn't like the schene on it after i was done. Actually finished to a different finish after my first attempts. I really appreciated your comparisons of the different finishes. I will certainly keep this video in mind for future projects!
Thanks for doing all this research. This helps a bunch!
Marc...great video! Your background in science is clearly coming through! Double-blind testing is the only valid way to know if the results are meaningful...well done!!
I really appreciate when you do these types of videos because over the years I have come to the conclusion that you put an honest effort into being subjective and I don’t worry that your results have been influenced by the desire to obtain or retain a sponsor. After seeing this video, I will most likely try the Rustic Lumber Finish when I finish my current can of Rubio.
I believe you meant to write "objective" rather than "subjective". 🙂
I really appreciate the work you put in on these test my friend! i for one will buy the Natura onecoat
Excellent comparison, Mark! Thanks for taking all the time to do this compare. I've been a little underwhelmed by Rubio, TBH. I don't like the green/yellow cast it gives lighter sapwood. I've been using Fiddes Hard Wax Oil and loving it. Its a little different application and not a 2x product, but I like its results better. Based on your review, I'm definitely going to check out the new Osmo!
Yay!!!! Finally the number of Rubio videos on TH-cam will start diminishing! 👏👏👏
I like your reviews. Really feel objective without prejudice. You also take the time to explain the facts.
thanks for the great video! I didn't even realize there was anything besides Rubio and Odie's Oil. Glad to know there are good alternatives.
I am an Osmo guy. This confirms my bias towards the best-looking. I very much appreciate you performing this test, and it will cause me to look at the alternatives.
Great info. Very informative and I might give some of these a try. I’ve used Rubio and Osmo and like them both but now I have some new things to look at
Thank you for the informative comparison!
I’d like to see a test on finishes that are sympathetic with heat, loads of us have worktops ad tables that are beautiful in wood but only takes that one hot cup, or miss placed pan.
You always put on great content, keep it up and good luck to you and your family in the future👍
Thanks Marc for doing this. I had a couple of large projects to finish a couple months ago and was very close to going with Natura but there just wasn’t any info on it. I ended up paying the premium for Rubio but that may have been the last time!
Excellent analysis and appreciate all the effort to be unbiased. I am going to try the Natura. Have used Rubio (and Odies) but like the results you got with the Natura. Love the videos!
Very informative video, just what I was looking for to select a finish, thanks for your detailed notes.
Great video. Glad to see some competition in this space, hopefully will bring the cost down. The wear test for flooring shows why manufacturers of prefinished floors coat with products like aluminum oxide or acrylic coatings
Thanks for this. Always good to see an "underdog" do well, and it is frustrating to see a "market leader" was just "marketed" better.
Excellent review! I am a "small shop" hobby woodworker and I have been very happy with the ease of use and results that I achieve with Rubio. However, now that I have watched this video, the next finish that I will give a go is Nature One Coat, based upon the information you presented. Thank you for being objective in your review, stating up front that you didn't want any finish to fail. Peace
Great breakdown of all of these!
Thanks Marc for the great reviews. I’ve never used any of those products before of my cheap ass ( minwax, danish oil, shellac and lacquer). I’m definitely going to get one of your two
top finishes for some future
projects.
Love the shirt!!! Jersey Boy here. Love you repping your Jersey family side!!!
Excellent video. Thorough, friendly, concise
Thank you very much for that video. I have been using Osmo products for a couple of years but was considering trying other products. I think I will stay with what I know and trust. Brilliant content in this video.
I smell a series coming!
I'd love to see the gambit of clear coats from both water based and oil based finishes. Maybe Gel coats too? My go-tos have been GF Enduro, GF Enduro-var, and Emmitt's Good stuff.
As for abrasion resistance, I've seen a weighted board with a nail in it being dragged across. I really liked the reparability segment!
I think the most helpful test (for me, a hobbyist) was the “open can” test. Since my Rubio might sit for 3-6 months between uses, knowing some products seem to have a longer shelf life is very important. Thanks
Marc,
I took a while responding to this video because I needed the time to try your recommendations on the two "winning" hard wax oil products in your excellent test.
Having used Rubio in the past, I can tell you that both of these competitors are virtually identical in their final presentation, just as you said.
However, Rustic Lumber provided nearly 3x the quantity of product for the same price as the other "winner."
For me, that makes it the clear choice going forward as the final results are superb and definitely a Rubio competitor, finish-wise.
As always your videos are superb and informative as can be.
After doing some research and being displeased using straight linseed oil on kitchen cabinet doors as well as a similar displeasure
With Woca oil on a cherry floor I stumbled across your Rubio testing video. Between yours and some other videos using it on live edge walnut I took the plunge. Haven’t really regretted the choice. It’s become a go-to when I don’t have the time or energy to do a full on polyurethane or such finish.
Great set up, lots of questions answered and seemingly very un biased opinion leaving it to the results. For me, i think Rustic would be the one I'd have to try out. As a DIY guy looking to expand in the community, this would be an inexpensive yet quality product to jump on with. Thanks again for all your hard work and dedication to helping others succeed with more solid information.
Excellent, excellent video. Lots of work there, and it is most appreciated. Never heard of Natura, but I am definitely going to try it. Used Rubio in the past and was happy with it, but not happy with the short shelf life for the price. So may choices, so little time.