Getting rid of attributes opens you up to some real gems, thanks for the striker suggestions! Once again a great vid from the best FM creator around at the moment. Switched to your skin yesterday as I said over Instagram and I've already made signings I would never make otherwise, incdluding a Korean CAM who is in his 30s. When you aren't influenced or even bound by attributes, you can make some very smart signings who will have a bigger impact on your save than if you were to play normally. I've also got an abandoned Villa save that's about 35% of the way done in the first season, I'm considering going Moneyball in that one starting from January 2024 in-game.
Absolutely! One of the reasons for starting down this route was noticing that I'd often sign or dismiss the same players based on marginal attribute differences rather than assessing how they played. It really helps open up possibilities and give chances for new heroes to come forward!
@@mustermannfm So my only thing is that I find regen scouting to be a massive part of how I play FM. I don't think it's as big an aspect of how you play, but I'd be interested in a video of how you approach it, if you do
@@dalenichol9404 certainly something to consider. I can give a brief answer now. My approach to scouting is to remove player search and rely on scouts. As a result I will always be working with a smaller pool. Youth/regens are the same, so if my scouts don't identify them, they are not considered. But, if they are recommended there's a few things to look for. Stats are limited, but you can find them in the youth competition pages under Player Detailed. You can usually identify players who standout compared to their peers. But that's not hard - a lot of their peers aren't going to make it in professional football. Attributes are obscured but there's more than enough information to make judgements. In fact, the grouping helps identify the inter-relationship of attributes quickly and see if they are actually likely to be good after development (no point in a player with elite passing, if they've got poor decisions and vision)
@@dalenichol9404 taking the PAOK/Zaragoza save, I've only signed one regen so far. This guy for €10k: imgur.com/a/eUMYSPp With the DNA indicator, I could see he is already capable in all the areas I prioritise. Even with development, he's never going to be "quick" or a great finisher, but he's rounded in possession attributes, so I believe he has the ability to go on and be a very good Advanced Playmaker at Greek Super League level.
Man what a helpful video... love this series. My favorite player you showed was Paulinho; give me a player that doesn't have any clear weakness, even if they aren't excellent in an area either. His locker room fit was a bit low for me, but it's tough to turn away from a good deep lying forward. One moneyball striker I love is Roberts Uldrikis at Cambuur; usually available for $1-$3 million at the start of the season. Most of his attributes are middle of the road/lower division, except for 3 things: his height (6'6"), his jumping reach (world class), and his heading ability (also world class). He's basically the living embodiment of a target forward. Just stand there and let me send crosses to you lol. Also a Browns jersey?? We're starting the revolution of wearing sports apparel for every sport except football 🤣🤣
Uldriķis is an absolute mountain!! A great suggestion. Anything-but-football-apparel is the way forward!! Start with the mainstream sports and work our way down. Looking forward to finding some Kabaddi kits by Christmas time!
Another amazing video, the striker I always buy in football manager is Semih Kilicsoy. I love Italian strikers like Antonio Raimondi, Nicolo Tresoldi, or Lorenzo Colombo for more budget-friendly options can also check someone like Marco da Graca from Juventus who does not have the stats but scores goals, or someone like Frederico Bonazzoli.
Lopez looks compelling. I think I'll try and pick him up in my St Pauli save. Max Moerstedt is over performing for me at Chelsea. I scooped him up for Ajax and 18 months in I got the Chelsea job and took him with me. In four seasons he's had three 20+ goal seasons and that's as my back up striker. He performs best as an Advanced Striker, but that's because of my tactics. He can do work as a complete forward, too, and that's something I want to build a new tactic around. I'm thinking Zola in the hole with Mark Hughes/Kerry Dixon/Gianluca Vialli up top. Great video, mate. I'm definitely coming around to the skin and looking at improving on the statistical side over attributes now... when I'm not playing Skyrim, of course!
@@mustermannfm when I was a nipper I didn’t want to be a footballer, I wanted to be Kerry! He scored a brace in my first trip to the Bridge against Leicester in 1984. Loved every minute of it!!
Paulinho, already miss him 😢 The stats definitely got it right for how he is in real life, an excelent tactical stricker, who can make your team play better, but it's better if paired with a killer stricker
Really interesting content. Think I'll have to take a peek at your skin, see how i get on. Not normally a fan of attributeless, but the more i see of it in videos, the more it appeals
It definitely takes some getting used to, and as I mention often in replies to comments like this: first time I tried attributeless, I lasted 2 months in game, and then didn't try it for another 2 years! That said, these videos are skin agnostic - you can look for players based on performance with any skin (might need to configure a couple of custom views) - so there is definitely scope for finding some kind of in-between approach that works best for you!
@@BrasilianFury I tend to try and find highlights of players irl when doing this videos, just out of intrigue, and he looks quality. Great presence for such tender years!
@@mustermannfm He has his moments with consistency at times (missing an easy cross by deflecting the shot with the wrong foot in one half, but then holding up the ball outside of the box, turning around and scoring a banger from outside the box on the bottom right corner), but his style of play works quite well with Palmeiras and Abel's schemes to where I almost find it frustrating on his insistence to put in Rony at striker rather than in the wings, where his pace/speed benefits the team most nowadays.
@@BrasilianFury it is quite ridiculous the amount of attacking quality Palmeiras have!! Granted, by watching player highlights I only ever see the good stuff they do, but the team is stacked!
Great video. Would be nice to see it for Japanese and/or South Korean leagues. Always trying to bring good players from these leagues to Europe, but not with much success. I have the feeling that there are far fewer hidden jewels to be found in the FM than in reality.
Love the content. I like the other moneyball episodes better when you were indepth about 4-5 players, felt like a proper scout report. But hey thats just One opinion. Keep doing what you do. Im playing with your skin and having a blast! Btw when you search ingame stats (chalkboard), Does it display all players from the leagues loaded? And if not is there a way to expand the statistics search ?
The statistics search in the Scouting -> Player Search screen? This will include all players within scouting range, and I recommend creating a filter to narrow this down to loaded leagues for the sake of data fidelity. With regards to preferred episodes, are you talking about the team specific episodes? If so, these will still be happening!
@@mustermannfm i was more refering to the central midfield episode. Loved how you where more in depth about 4-5 and has the rest recomended players shown more briefly. Really made menwant to coach Bonke Innocent for example.
@@kristoffersjomans3692 ah, I understand. Whilst I did do a specific dive into Mothiba's movement, and showcased Lopez's variety of finishing, I appreciate it might have been less in depth than before. Thank you for the feedback, as I'm definitely still trying to find the balance here (in previous videos lots of people skip ahead when it reaches the "highlights" section). I'll keep tweaking and see if I can get that balance right!!
Great video as always, this series is great. I would like to know how you use moneyball to find promising young people, a video on this topic would be interesting
It's a good idea, and one I will consider (generally, I like this things to come up organically during the course of a save). I did give a brief answer in an earlier comment though: My approach to scouting is to remove player search and rely on scouts. As a result I will always be working with a smaller pool. Youth/regens are the same, so if my scouts don't identify them, they are not considered. But, if they are recommended there's a few things to look for. Stats are limited, but you can find them in the youth competition pages under Player Detailed. You can usually identify players who standout compared to their peers. But that's not hard - a lot of their peers aren't going to make it in professional football. Attributes are obscured but there's more than enough information to make judgements. In fact, the grouping helps identify the inter-relationship of attributes quickly and see if they are actually likely to be good after development (no point in a player with elite passing, if they've got poor decisions and vision)
@@mustermannfm I hadn't stopped to think about how the grouping of attributes is something that helps with this observation and it really makes sense, it helps a lot to identify players who appear at the club and/or players from other clubs. If it happens organically in one of your saves and you make a video, it would be super interesting.
I'm gobsmacked there's no mention of Argentine's best valued monster German Berterame, available for 1M € at the start of the game, even if he does start out injured. If ever there was quality for a pitiful fee, this guy is it!
I'm afraid he wasn't even close to being in contention. Despite good goalscoring form( xG overperformance of +0.13) his performance in everything else was awful (below 25th percentile in everything but goals and shots - in fact the low NPxG compared to shots indicated a really low xG per shot - suggesting he was taking a lot of bad shots). It's good to hear he's worked out for you, though. Quite possibly indicative of someone who is poorly utilised by Monterey.
I had try the moneyball approach in the past but I found it underwhelming when playing for a decent club in a decent league. My issue was that you can find a striker destroying everything in Sweden 2nd division but if you bring him in the Premier league it's a very different environment. Then even if you adjust for the league difference it's very hard to take into account the team differences. For instance you could have someone scoring an insane amounts of goals but maybe he is teamed together with the best passer in the league and if you don't have the same level passer he will underperform. What I mean is that basing it only on stats was very hit and miss for me. So I went back looking at the attributes 😊. Other that that great video and interesting take
That's why goals is rarely the important metric to look at. You need to be more holistic. Shots, xG and xG overperformance tells you a lot about a players ability to get into good quality shooting positions and to then finish team. Pass attempts, dribbles, xA, header win rate, etc... indicates their involvement in build up. It's quite easy to find players who perform well that will translate to higher divisions if you look beyond the surface, but that level of uncertainty is part of the joy of attributeless. It's not for everyone. That doesn't make it a better way to play. Just different.
@@mustermannfm but how do you account for the team difference? Let's say you spot someone with great stats playing in the best 2nd division team in Sweden or Belarus. If his team is the best of their division they will mostly score loads of goals, have very high Xgoals, Xoverperformance and all metrics because they are the best team so they are dominating their opposition. But you know take some of these dominant players and bring them not only in an upper league but also in a small team in the upper league all of a sudden they are nobody while they were the superstars in their old environment? Also is there a way to use that as a scouting method for wonderkids? My issue with wonderkids is how unreliable scout reports can be and I'm looking for a edge there. But the stats are just a different way to look at CA no ? Did you find any relationship with the PA anywhere? Like maybe a 16 years old is dominating because he is CA 110 but his PA is 120 so he'll never be a great player so I guess he will have good stats because he is good now but doesn't tell you anything about the future?
@@xavinwonderland you apply common sense. If you are looking to sign someone from a significantly lower division, you aren't looking for players whose metrics are merely outliers, but whose performances are clearly far above anything that would be expected. Moneyball prioritises evidence over potential. Scouts will give you feedback on room for growth. That is more than sufficient. If a player is dominant at a young age and there's a big difference between perceived ability and potential, then there's a good chance that player will turn out okay.
@@mustermannfm thank you so much . I will certainly revisit probably still using attributes but trying to uncover what attributes are more importants like are Xgoals being more influenced by pace, decision, finishing and so on.
Coincidentally saw Baris Atik in the flesh yesterday and he was excellent. Scored the winner and was a constant threat to our back line, popping up everywhere.
I clicked the Like Btn , even before i watch . And will alweys do that . As i know what is comming up 😅 . Love that vid , love to pair both 1st and last players . F9 with AF or Poacher . I hope that my pc can handel loading all of thus data . I will do it anyway . But no time to play thes days mate as i'am moving 😢 . Thanks for keeping this game uniqe .
I’ve recently come across your channel and I’m giving moneyball a go would it be possible if you could give a sort of idiots guide into scouting because the spread sheets is when it gets a bit daunting for me
The boundaries aren't likely to change a significant amount, but there'll be a much lower confidence interval. The aim was never to do 10 simuations, but to have a database of above 74,000 players that had played 900 minutes or more in a single season. This should give accuracy and confidence of close to 99% based against the highest recommended players loaded by the game.
Thanks for this. I just started a Roma save and the first thing I did was send Lukaku back. That loan contract was crippling! But Belloti is out on loan and Tammy is out for a year, so I went looking for a cheap striker to fill in for a year. I found Martin Satriano from Inter, on loan at Brest. I have an offer out for 6.5M Euros but not sure if he's worth it? Looking at a couple of guys on this list. Would love a recommendation for a side like Roma. I want to play that big striker who will be top 5 in the league in headers and goals. I'm thinking Lopez might fit that bill?
Both Lopez and Paulinho should be good fits; Lopez being younger and cheaper would probably be appealing in that sense. If you've kept Paredes and Dybala around, then you probably don't need to worry about his adaptability.
Tomas chory always seems to over perform on the game very cheap around 1m mark and anytime I have signed him he excels with goal contributions. Thank you for the incredible work 👍
@mustermannfm is there anything you have released that tells you what stats to focus on for each role in each position? This would definitely be useful to those new to stats heavy scouting.
@@steveotoole200 every player recommended in the Moneyball Clinic series, whether it is these position specific ones, or the team specific ones, touches on the stats I focus on in those circumstances, but... ...there isn't a single answer. Not at role level, and most certainly not at positional level. What you want from a player is very much dependant on your tactic and other players within the squad. For that reason, I focus on a holistic approach, which I believe is far more useful both for those new and experienced to data-led recruitment. Understanding how everything ties together and considering all those factors gives you the agency to learn and develop your own opinions. As opposed to "internet man told me to sign player with this stat...why is it not working!?"
@@mustermannfm yeah that's understandable, in regards to setting a filter looking at certain stats I get some very good looking prospects come up but a lot are in leagues such as South African prem how do you deal with the league weight for example the south African league is not as good as the Portuguese prem? Or am I just talking nonsense lol
@@steveotoole200 by and large, apply common sense. If the player is playing in an "easier" league, then you might want them to standout a little more. You might consider 0.3 xA to be your threshold for a playmaker in the DSTV Premiership, when you'd otherwise be happy with 0.25 xA to be your threshold in the Liga BWIN. But, there's always going to be nuance. Leagues have different playstyles. A header win rate of 71% for centre backs is much more impressive in the Eredevisie than it is in the Australian A league, despite the Eredivisie clearly being the "better" league. Furthermore, quality of teammates matter. Scoring 30 goals in League One, when your chances are dependant on being created by guys who can't pass or cross, is an impressive feat.
@@GerS1182 Fingers crossed. PAOK seems like a good level for him to contribute right away. If you've kept Konstantelias, that's two really bright prospects!
@@GerS1182 really high hopes for him. Just hope he doesn't end up the way of other promising young Greek attacking midfielders. The Sotiris Ninis trauma still lingers.
Hi mate. Do you have any alternative colours for yellow and green like the base game? I only found green and yellow (green being good and yellow excellent). Id love to know if there is the default one (yellow for good and green for excellent)
All instructions for alternative colour schemes and changing yourself in the FAQs: community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/580505-fm24skin-mustermann-iconic-v12-updated-200724-light-mode-now-available/#comments
@@mustermannfm hey thanks for the response, I’m trying to get into using this skin but that’s been the only put off so far, because I’m simply too used to it haha, thank you!
@@tdh2044 I'm sure there'll be plenty of other things to put you off, too. It's quite a big change from anything else, so it will take time to get used to!
You don't I'm afraid. It is not released publically, as it is a live document that is setup for my use (not in a manner that is easy-to-use or friendly for external viewers)
Hey mate, i remember a few months ago i asked you how to turn off the all players planel, in the comment section of one of your videos, you told me how to, but now i cant seem to find the video, nor the comment, and now i cant figure out how to turn it on again haha. Could you help me?
If you wish to disable player search, you need to edit Mustermann Iconic/sections/sidebar sections.xml, line 487: This needs to be changed to: You'll then need to save the file, reload the skin with caching off. If you also want to disable staff search, that is line 709: This needs to be changed to:
@@Samuel-wk8lt not currently, no. Although whilst these are players who have consistently performed and are good recommendations for the start of the game, from the 2nd transfer window onwards I would always recommend prioritising the performances of players within your game world
@@khemrajbudha7955 yes, I know what you meant, and the point stands. Both players are exceptional, with performances to an elite standard, both in scoring and creating. It will, of course, come down to your tactical preferences, though.
Cheapest player is 475k euro is where I got to in your video. These videos are all the same. They all assume you have a big bundle of cash at the beginning, or managing a decent reputation club. Moving on...
Sorry to hear it's not for you. I do try to address a broad range of clubs, but as established in the first 10 seconds of the video, the focus here is on the Top 30 leagues. There is always at least 1 player in every video who is willing to play in those leagues ranked 25th-30th, despite being good enough (in my opinion) for a higher level, and at an affordable price point. The cheapest so far has been 80k, but ultimately every player recommended is going to cost a fee at the start of the game. When focussing on performance statistics, the players need to be at a club. And performing regularly. And performing well. Across multiple simulations. That's before considering whether they're "interesting" enough to make a shortlist of 9. But even if there isn't a specific player for your needs, there is focus on how to look at metrics, how they can help you profile a player, when metrics are concerning and when they're not. I appreciate this might not be helpful to you.
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Mustermann has already exposed Manutd's new defender even before the season starts. 😂😂😂
Poor Yoro. Just one step behind.
Getting rid of attributes opens you up to some real gems, thanks for the striker suggestions! Once again a great vid from the best FM creator around at the moment.
Switched to your skin yesterday as I said over Instagram and I've already made signings I would never make otherwise, incdluding a Korean CAM who is in his 30s. When you aren't influenced or even bound by attributes, you can make some very smart signings who will have a bigger impact on your save than if you were to play normally.
I've also got an abandoned Villa save that's about 35% of the way done in the first season, I'm considering going Moneyball in that one starting from January 2024 in-game.
Absolutely!
One of the reasons for starting down this route was noticing that I'd often sign or dismiss the same players based on marginal attribute differences rather than assessing how they played. It really helps open up possibilities and give chances for new heroes to come forward!
@@mustermannfm So my only thing is that I find regen scouting to be a massive part of how I play FM. I don't think it's as big an aspect of how you play, but I'd be interested in a video of how you approach it, if you do
@@dalenichol9404 certainly something to consider. I can give a brief answer now.
My approach to scouting is to remove player search and rely on scouts. As a result I will always be working with a smaller pool. Youth/regens are the same, so if my scouts don't identify them, they are not considered. But, if they are recommended there's a few things to look for.
Stats are limited, but you can find them in the youth competition pages under Player Detailed. You can usually identify players who standout compared to their peers. But that's not hard - a lot of their peers aren't going to make it in professional football.
Attributes are obscured but there's more than enough information to make judgements. In fact, the grouping helps identify the inter-relationship of attributes quickly and see if they are actually likely to be good after development (no point in a player with elite passing, if they've got poor decisions and vision)
@@mustermannfm what a man. Thank you!
@@dalenichol9404 taking the PAOK/Zaragoza save, I've only signed one regen so far. This guy for €10k:
imgur.com/a/eUMYSPp
With the DNA indicator, I could see he is already capable in all the areas I prioritise. Even with development, he's never going to be "quick" or a great finisher, but he's rounded in possession attributes, so I believe he has the ability to go on and be a very good Advanced Playmaker at Greek Super League level.
Man what a helpful video... love this series.
My favorite player you showed was Paulinho; give me a player that doesn't have any clear weakness, even if they aren't excellent in an area either. His locker room fit was a bit low for me, but it's tough to turn away from a good deep lying forward.
One moneyball striker I love is Roberts Uldrikis at Cambuur; usually available for $1-$3 million at the start of the season. Most of his attributes are middle of the road/lower division, except for 3 things: his height (6'6"), his jumping reach (world class), and his heading ability (also world class). He's basically the living embodiment of a target forward. Just stand there and let me send crosses to you lol.
Also a Browns jersey?? We're starting the revolution of wearing sports apparel for every sport except football 🤣🤣
Uldriķis is an absolute mountain!! A great suggestion.
Anything-but-football-apparel is the way forward!! Start with the mainstream sports and work our way down. Looking forward to finding some Kabaddi kits by Christmas time!
Another amazing video, the striker I always buy in football manager is Semih Kilicsoy. I love Italian strikers like Antonio Raimondi, Nicolo Tresoldi, or Lorenzo Colombo for more budget-friendly options can also check someone like Marco da Graca from Juventus who does not have the stats but scores goals, or someone like Frederico Bonazzoli.
Based on performances before you sign them, or gems uncovered by scouts?
@@mustermannfm known players for me. No scouts no stats based searching. But when many years in a save I always opt for stat searching.
Lopez looks compelling. I think I'll try and pick him up in my St Pauli save. Max Moerstedt is over performing for me at Chelsea. I scooped him up for Ajax and 18 months in I got the Chelsea job and took him with me. In four seasons he's had three 20+ goal seasons and that's as my back up striker. He performs best as an Advanced Striker, but that's because of my tactics. He can do work as a complete forward, too, and that's something I want to build a new tactic around. I'm thinking Zola in the hole with Mark Hughes/Kerry Dixon/Gianluca Vialli up top.
Great video, mate. I'm definitely coming around to the skin and looking at improving on the statistical side over attributes now... when I'm not playing Skyrim, of course!
That's twice in under 24 hours you've mentioned Kerry Dixon!! But absolutely makes sense.
@@mustermannfm when I was a nipper I didn’t want to be a footballer, I wanted to be Kerry! He scored a brace in my first trip to the Bridge against Leicester in 1984. Loved every minute of it!!
Excellent video, I really like this format!
Cheers, dude! I'm glad you like it; I think it's a nice way to spotlight some players who might not always get the spotlight!
Paulinho, already miss him 😢
The stats definitely got it right for how he is in real life, an excelent tactical stricker, who can make your team play better, but it's better if paired with a killer stricker
He's quality. Was surprised to see him head to Mexico irl!
Really interesting content. Think I'll have to take a peek at your skin, see how i get on. Not normally a fan of attributeless, but the more i see of it in videos, the more it appeals
It definitely takes some getting used to, and as I mention often in replies to comments like this: first time I tried attributeless, I lasted 2 months in game, and then didn't try it for another 2 years!
That said, these videos are skin agnostic - you can look for players based on performance with any skin (might need to configure a couple of custom views) - so there is definitely scope for finding some kind of in-between approach that works best for you!
Hell yeah brother...
Some of these suggestions though...I am making notes.
(also, FLACO LÓPEZ MENTIONED!!!!!!)
I was expecting a comment about López from you!!!
@@mustermannfm He is the leading goal scorer for us IRL at the moment too by doing a lot of what you analyzed here, so it checks out for sure.
@@BrasilianFury I tend to try and find highlights of players irl when doing this videos, just out of intrigue, and he looks quality. Great presence for such tender years!
@@mustermannfm He has his moments with consistency at times (missing an easy cross by deflecting the shot with the wrong foot in one half, but then holding up the ball outside of the box, turning around and scoring a banger from outside the box on the bottom right corner), but his style of play works quite well with Palmeiras and Abel's schemes to where I almost find it frustrating on his insistence to put in Rony at striker rather than in the wings, where his pace/speed benefits the team most nowadays.
@@BrasilianFury it is quite ridiculous the amount of attacking quality Palmeiras have!!
Granted, by watching player highlights I only ever see the good stuff they do, but the team is stacked!
Love the video, as always! Manuel Lopez would be my favorite in the list. tower guy
He's an absolute beast. Goalscorer and facilitator. €6m is a bargain!
Great video. Would be nice to see it for Japanese and/or South Korean leagues. Always trying to bring good players from these leagues to Europe, but not with much success. I have the feeling that there are far fewer hidden jewels to be found in the FM than in reality.
J1 League is part of the data set, but there are very few players that standout when it comes to performance unfortunately.
Cracking video mate ❤
Thank you, dude!
Love the content. I like the other moneyball episodes better when you were indepth about 4-5 players, felt like a proper scout report. But hey thats just One opinion. Keep doing what you do. Im playing with your skin and having a blast! Btw when you search ingame stats (chalkboard), Does it display all players from the leagues loaded? And if not is there a way to expand the statistics search ?
The statistics search in the Scouting -> Player Search screen? This will include all players within scouting range, and I recommend creating a filter to narrow this down to loaded leagues for the sake of data fidelity.
With regards to preferred episodes, are you talking about the team specific episodes? If so, these will still be happening!
@@mustermannfm i was more refering to the central midfield episode. Loved how you where more in depth about 4-5 and has the rest recomended players shown more briefly. Really made menwant to coach Bonke Innocent for example.
@@kristoffersjomans3692 ah, I understand.
Whilst I did do a specific dive into Mothiba's movement, and showcased Lopez's variety of finishing, I appreciate it might have been less in depth than before. Thank you for the feedback, as I'm definitely still trying to find the balance here (in previous videos lots of people skip ahead when it reaches the "highlights" section). I'll keep tweaking and see if I can get that balance right!!
Great video as always, this series is great.
I would like to know how you use moneyball to find promising young people, a video on this topic would be interesting
It's a good idea, and one I will consider (generally, I like this things to come up organically during the course of a save). I did give a brief answer in an earlier comment though:
My approach to scouting is to remove player search and rely on scouts. As a result I will always be working with a smaller pool. Youth/regens are the same, so if my scouts don't identify them, they are not considered. But, if they are recommended there's a few things to look for.
Stats are limited, but you can find them in the youth competition pages under Player Detailed. You can usually identify players who standout compared to their peers. But that's not hard - a lot of their peers aren't going to make it in professional football.
Attributes are obscured but there's more than enough information to make judgements. In fact, the grouping helps identify the inter-relationship of attributes quickly and see if they are actually likely to be good after development (no point in a player with elite passing, if they've got poor decisions and vision)
@@mustermannfm I hadn't stopped to think about how the grouping of attributes is something that helps with this observation and it really makes sense, it helps a lot to identify players who appear at the club and/or players from other clubs. If it happens organically in one of your saves and you make a video, it would be super interesting.
I'm gobsmacked there's no mention of Argentine's best valued monster German Berterame, available for 1M € at the start of the game, even if he does start out injured. If ever there was quality for a pitiful fee, this guy is it!
I'm afraid he wasn't even close to being in contention.
Despite good goalscoring form( xG overperformance of +0.13) his performance in everything else was awful (below 25th percentile in everything but goals and shots - in fact the low NPxG compared to shots indicated a really low xG per shot - suggesting he was taking a lot of bad shots).
It's good to hear he's worked out for you, though. Quite possibly indicative of someone who is poorly utilised by Monterey.
I had try the moneyball approach in the past but I found it underwhelming when playing for a decent club in a decent league.
My issue was that you can find a striker destroying everything in Sweden 2nd division but if you bring him in the Premier league it's a very different environment.
Then even if you adjust for the league difference it's very hard to take into account the team differences. For instance you could have someone scoring an insane amounts of goals but maybe he is teamed together with the best passer in the league and if you don't have the same level passer he will underperform.
What I mean is that basing it only on stats was very hit and miss for me. So I went back looking at the attributes 😊.
Other that that great video and interesting take
That's why goals is rarely the important metric to look at. You need to be more holistic. Shots, xG and xG overperformance tells you a lot about a players ability to get into good quality shooting positions and to then finish team. Pass attempts, dribbles, xA, header win rate, etc... indicates their involvement in build up.
It's quite easy to find players who perform well that will translate to higher divisions if you look beyond the surface, but that level of uncertainty is part of the joy of attributeless. It's not for everyone. That doesn't make it a better way to play. Just different.
@@mustermannfm but how do you account for the team difference? Let's say you spot someone with great stats playing in the best 2nd division team in Sweden or Belarus. If his team is the best of their division they will mostly score loads of goals, have very high Xgoals, Xoverperformance and all metrics because they are the best team so they are dominating their opposition.
But you know take some of these dominant players and bring them not only in an upper league but also in a small team in the upper league all of a sudden they are nobody while they were the superstars in their old environment?
Also is there a way to use that as a scouting method for wonderkids? My issue with wonderkids is how unreliable scout reports can be and I'm looking for a edge there. But the stats are just a different way to look at CA no ? Did you find any relationship with the PA anywhere?
Like maybe a 16 years old is dominating because he is CA 110 but his PA is 120 so he'll never be a great player so I guess he will have good stats because he is good now but doesn't tell you anything about the future?
@@xavinwonderland you apply common sense. If you are looking to sign someone from a significantly lower division, you aren't looking for players whose metrics are merely outliers, but whose performances are clearly far above anything that would be expected.
Moneyball prioritises evidence over potential. Scouts will give you feedback on room for growth. That is more than sufficient. If a player is dominant at a young age and there's a big difference between perceived ability and potential, then there's a good chance that player will turn out okay.
@@mustermannfm thank you so much . I will certainly revisit probably still using attributes but trying to uncover what attributes are more importants like are Xgoals being more influenced by pace, decision, finishing and so on.
Coincidentally saw Baris Atik in the flesh yesterday and he was excellent. Scored the winner and was a constant threat to our back line, popping up everywhere.
@@KeiranShikari1 ah that must be annoying. Regardless of how good he played, you probably didn't want reminding of him the very next day
Great concept
Thank you, dude. Glad you're enjoying it!!
I clicked the Like Btn , even before i watch . And will alweys do that . As i know what is comming up 😅 .
Love that vid , love to pair both 1st and last players . F9 with AF or Poacher .
I hope that my pc can handel loading all of thus data . I will do it anyway . But no time to play thes days mate as i'am moving 😢 .
Thanks for keeping this game uniqe .
Thank you, dude!
Moving sounds exciting. It's a chance to reasses and optimise the gaming setup!!
I’ve recently come across your channel and I’m giving moneyball a go would it be possible if you could give a sort of idiots guide into scouting because the spread sheets is when it gets a bit daunting for me
You don't need spreadsheets, but if you watch through the PAOK/Zaragoza series you will seen how I approach scouting/transfer windows
Great video! Out of curiosity, how much would things change if you simmed it 5 times and then took the average of the 5 sims?
The boundaries aren't likely to change a significant amount, but there'll be a much lower confidence interval.
The aim was never to do 10 simuations, but to have a database of above 74,000 players that had played 900 minutes or more in a single season. This should give accuracy and confidence of close to 99% based against the highest recommended players loaded by the game.
Thanks for this. I just started a Roma save and the first thing I did was send Lukaku back. That loan contract was crippling! But Belloti is out on loan and Tammy is out for a year, so I went looking for a cheap striker to fill in for a year. I found Martin Satriano from Inter, on loan at Brest. I have an offer out for 6.5M Euros but not sure if he's worth it? Looking at a couple of guys on this list. Would love a recommendation for a side like Roma. I want to play that big striker who will be top 5 in the league in headers and goals. I'm thinking Lopez might fit that bill?
Both Lopez and Paulinho should be good fits; Lopez being younger and cheaper would probably be appealing in that sense. If you've kept Paredes and Dybala around, then you probably don't need to worry about his adaptability.
I've heard of this unknown fella called Erling Haaland, definitely undervalued
Sounds intriguing. I'll definitely have to check him out. Sounds like a poor man's Albert Tjaland, though
@@mustermannfm yeah Erling has some work to do to be as legendary as Albert.
Great video
Thank you, my dude!
Fucking beautiful Bouldini aka Goaldini! I had the opportunity to watch him play for my team in Portugal. What a beast!
An absolutely cracking player!
Tomas chory always seems to over perform on the game very cheap around 1m mark and anytime I have signed him he excels with goal contributions. Thank you for the incredible work 👍
An absolute giant of a man!!
@mustermannfm is there anything you have released that tells you what stats to focus on for each role in each position? This would definitely be useful to those new to stats heavy scouting.
@@steveotoole200 every player recommended in the Moneyball Clinic series, whether it is these position specific ones, or the team specific ones, touches on the stats I focus on in those circumstances, but...
...there isn't a single answer. Not at role level, and most certainly not at positional level. What you want from a player is very much dependant on your tactic and other players within the squad.
For that reason, I focus on a holistic approach, which I believe is far more useful both for those new and experienced to data-led recruitment. Understanding how everything ties together and considering all those factors gives you the agency to learn and develop your own opinions. As opposed to "internet man told me to sign player with this stat...why is it not working!?"
@@mustermannfm yeah that's understandable, in regards to setting a filter looking at certain stats I get some very good looking prospects come up but a lot are in leagues such as South African prem how do you deal with the league weight for example the south African league is not as good as the Portuguese prem? Or am I just talking nonsense lol
@@steveotoole200 by and large, apply common sense. If the player is playing in an "easier" league, then you might want them to standout a little more. You might consider 0.3 xA to be your threshold for a playmaker in the DSTV Premiership, when you'd otherwise be happy with 0.25 xA to be your threshold in the Liga BWIN.
But, there's always going to be nuance. Leagues have different playstyles. A header win rate of 71% for centre backs is much more impressive in the Eredevisie than it is in the Australian A league, despite the Eredivisie clearly being the "better" league.
Furthermore, quality of teammates matter. Scoring 30 goals in League One, when your chances are dependant on being created by guys who can't pass or cross, is an impressive feat.
Let Mustermann dig up some gems for you!
It's all about showing love to those underrated players!!
Started a save with Paok and signed Mothiba and he has 7 goals in 12 games in league and Europe and only cost £2 mill.
He's quite good, isn't he!!
@@mustermannfm just signed Lucas Assadi from your winger suggestions,so hopefully will have the same impact.
@@GerS1182 Fingers crossed. PAOK seems like a good level for him to contribute right away. If you've kept Konstantelias, that's two really bright prospects!
@@mustermannfm Konstantelias is playing as an AM on attack and has 16 goals and 4 assists in 32 games,banging them in.
@@GerS1182 really high hopes for him. Just hope he doesn't end up the way of other promising young Greek attacking midfielders. The Sotiris Ninis trauma still lingers.
Hi mate. Do you have any alternative colours for yellow and green like the base game?
I only found green and yellow (green being good and yellow excellent). Id love to know if there is the default one (yellow for good and green for excellent)
All instructions for alternative colour schemes and changing yourself in the FAQs: community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/580505-fm24skin-mustermann-iconic-v12-updated-200724-light-mode-now-available/#comments
@@mustermannfm hey thanks for the response, I’m trying to get into using this skin but that’s been the only put off so far, because I’m simply too used to it haha, thank you!
@@tdh2044 I'm sure there'll be plenty of other things to put you off, too. It's quite a big change from anything else, so it will take time to get used to!
That big list at the beginning of the video, where do you access that?
You don't I'm afraid. It is not released publically, as it is a live document that is setup for my use (not in a manner that is easy-to-use or friendly for external viewers)
Awh no, Mustermann is a bassist. I was besotted before, it's full on love now.
Now you know why everything is mixed so low. Need that mid scoop.
When’s the next Giannis mustermann video?
Next week, if I can finish it in time. I'm away this weekend, and that impacts a significant portion of the time I have for editing.
Hey mate, i remember a few months ago i asked you how to turn off the all players planel, in the comment section of one of your videos, you told me how to, but now i cant seem to find the video, nor the comment, and now i cant figure out how to turn it on again haha. Could you help me?
If you wish to disable player search, you need to edit Mustermann Iconic/sections/sidebar sections.xml, line 487:
This needs to be changed to:
You'll then need to save the file, reload the skin with caching off.
If you also want to disable staff search, that is line 709:
This needs to be changed to:
Do you have a career in data analysis or anything like that?
I don't. Just a studious nature.
Is there any place we can download the saves with all the data?
@@Samuel-wk8lt not currently, no. Although whilst these are players who have consistently performed and are good recommendations for the start of the game, from the 2nd transfer window onwards I would always recommend prioritising the performances of players within your game world
10:11 💀
I said what I said 😂
yesssssss
Hope there's some players to intrigue you!
fer nino
A quality player!
You should have added one Premier League top-six or Champions League contender striker, preferably under 30 million as 10. Anyways good video.
Paulinho and Lopez are absolutely good enough for UCL contenders!
@@mustermannfm i mean to say CL title contender, i dont think Paulinho and Lopez good enough for winning CL.
@@khemrajbudha7955 yes, I know what you meant, and the point stands. Both players are exceptional, with performances to an elite standard, both in scoring and creating. It will, of course, come down to your tactical preferences, though.
massimo Zilli
Good shout!
Cheapest player is 475k euro is where I got to in your video. These videos are all the same. They all assume you have a big bundle of cash at the beginning, or managing a decent reputation club. Moving on...
Sorry to hear it's not for you.
I do try to address a broad range of clubs, but as established in the first 10 seconds of the video, the focus here is on the Top 30 leagues. There is always at least 1 player in every video who is willing to play in those leagues ranked 25th-30th, despite being good enough (in my opinion) for a higher level, and at an affordable price point.
The cheapest so far has been 80k, but ultimately every player recommended is going to cost a fee at the start of the game. When focussing on performance statistics, the players need to be at a club. And performing regularly. And performing well. Across multiple simulations. That's before considering whether they're "interesting" enough to make a shortlist of 9.
But even if there isn't a specific player for your needs, there is focus on how to look at metrics, how they can help you profile a player, when metrics are concerning and when they're not. I appreciate this might not be helpful to you.