What Happened to Football’s Most Iconic Look?

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    Neck rolls, Cowboy Collars, airplane pillows? There have been many forms of football neck pads over the years. They peaked in popularity from the 80's to 90's... then disappeared. What happened to them?
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  • @AvrilAlvarez
    @AvrilAlvarez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +972

    Btw KTO. You said in this video that Bryan cox went to Florida. That was actually his son Bryan Cox Jr. Not Bryan Sr

    • @KTOfootball
      @KTOfootball  2 ปีที่แล้ว +242

      My mistake. At least it’s cool that he honored his father with the La Z boy neck pad!

    • @matternst1442
      @matternst1442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@KTOfootball hey not to comment highjack but wasn’t it named for the Oklahoma State Cowboys like Gatorade was for Florida. I might be wrong....

    • @AvrilAlvarez
      @AvrilAlvarez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KTOfootball yeah he was one of my favorite players on my Gators during the mid 2010s

    • @v0lium
      @v0lium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no one cares

    • @gilbert8162
      @gilbert8162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@v0lium About your comment, no we don't.

  • @zdo3
    @zdo3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1610

    Surprised you didn't mention Mike Alstott! That dude repped the neck roll like no other! Great fullback/halfback too!

    • @thewave1983
      @thewave1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Came here to say this. Instead went with a clip of a no-name Patriots FB??

    • @Rek-45
      @Rek-45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Also came here to say "how do you make a neckpad video without the A-Train!?"

    • @KTOfootball
      @KTOfootball  2 ปีที่แล้ว +291

      Mistakes were made lol. I got caught up showing the evolution of the different pieces of equipment and just spaced it on showing Alstott. I'll find a way to show some respect to the A-Train in the future!

    • @benreitz9034
      @benreitz9034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@thewave1983 Hey Develin was a pro bowler in 2017, definitely not the level of Alstott though

    • @joehonest7074
      @joehonest7074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I came here to mention him too!!

  • @LudiCrust.
    @LudiCrust. ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The neck pads save you from suffering the worst kind of concussion where your head gets whiplashed into the ground. The pain is intense and temporarily blinds you.

    • @katherineknapp4370
      @katherineknapp4370 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Definitely life saver

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Idk if theres a worst kind of concussion. They’re all pretty serious to varying degrees

    • @katherineknapp4370
      @katherineknapp4370 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@poindextertunes true

  • @ryanhodgetts
    @ryanhodgetts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Playing football as a linemen being a kid in the ‘96-‘08 era, the neck pad was the most savage looking equipment.

    • @mbdeuceduece4451
      @mbdeuceduece4451 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it wasn't. By that time, after 2000s it looks silly and lacked swag

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mbdeuceduece4451imagine gatekeeping sports equipment

  • @bigcraig79
    @bigcraig79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    4 year NCAA football player here. I couldn't have made it through playing football without my cowboy collar. I don't give a shit about the statistics. I had repeated stingers when hitting, but once I put on the cowboy collar, I never had one. I played offensive line. It helped me and kept my neck safe. The other big thing not mentioned is neck training

    • @WavveBoi
      @WavveBoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      There's no way I would have survived blocking large pacific island men without it. My knees however, have died.

    • @eddiewiggles9398
      @eddiewiggles9398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@WavveBoi LOL

    • @frandavis1990
      @frandavis1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I used to be on the few kids who used the neck machine in high school. Never got a concession while playing guard, fullback, and in the front 7

    • @darinstrickland4210
      @darinstrickland4210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Me too…loved my Cowboy Collar in college…used it as a Fullback then when I changed to MLB

    • @mikewilliams9069
      @mikewilliams9069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      where did you play?

  • @ferratorr1033
    @ferratorr1033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    That James Develin run has always remained one of my all time favorite football plays. Truly showcasing a dying facet of the game.

    • @RM---
      @RM--- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      you really dont see dudes bowling over 4 tacklers like that anymore.. maybe king henry, but that's not even the same class..

    • @PaulGaither
      @PaulGaither 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As a 49ers fan and a huge fan "Juice", the best FB in the NFL, even he is essentially a Tight End that lines up in the backfield. He still lead blocks like a beast, but his best ability is as a pass catcher - often too fast for the OLBs trying to cover him. Hopefully with Lance at QB instead of Jimmy, we will see more passes his way in 2022

    • @jayjunior5504
      @jayjunior5504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah that’s one of the best goal line runs I’ve ever seen. Pure determination and will power. Love to see it.

    • @monkeydude9192
      @monkeydude9192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Loved having Develin on the Pats, glad he was able to retire as champ

    • @mathewbarnett157
      @mathewbarnett157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaulGaither go niners!!! Juice is so good at blocking him & Trent are amazing to watch block

  • @brianbrown7530
    @brianbrown7530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    I’ve worn all kinds of neck rolls throughout my high school and college playing days. By far the McDavid Cowboy Collar was the most effective. I’ve had countless instances when my head was jolted back into the cowboy collars during contact. The Cowboy Collar was a Linebackers best friend.

    • @Da219StarWarsGuy
      @Da219StarWarsGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was that the one that bolted directly into the back of the shoulder pads?

    • @brianbrown7530
      @brianbrown7530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Da219StarWarsGuy nope the original one that just went under the shoulder pads and came out of the neck area. It was lightweight, water resistant, and durable. One quality Cowboy Collar would last for two or three seasons easily.

    • @Da219StarWarsGuy
      @Da219StarWarsGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@brianbrown7530 I recall playing with guys that used it. I used the shock absorber under my shoulder pads. Basically looked like a half inch thick foam web. I didn't use it in practice once and got a stinger. Never went without it again. Kind of doubled as a foam collar since it closed that gap between the helmet and shoulder pads.

    • @toddgaak422
      @toddgaak422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I played in the late 80s and early 90s. I wore the same collar that Bozworth had for one game. I hated it. I felt like it kept me from keeping my head up. I never understood how guys could wear any of these collars.

    • @eliarthur7088
      @eliarthur7088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not just a linebacker’s best friend. Lineman’s too.
      Helped keep my neck from getting injured when I had To block LBs coming in at full speed.

  • @daveycash3479
    @daveycash3479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    I love seeing all the Mike Alstott mentions. Glad he’s still getting respect despite the game changing so much. Seems like he is pretty widely appreciated but if you’re too young to have experienced him, look up some highlights. A-Train was the man. A surprisingly good receiver out of the backfield too.

    • @bryanreese4231
      @bryanreese4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro if you was a hard nose bell cow FB/RB that didn’t make a ton of ppl miss and you like to run shit over you had on a cowboy collar

    • @milehighgambler
      @milehighgambler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mike Alstott is currently the best FB in Madden, and looks like he will remain that way, since Madden 23 releases this season

    • @TheBuddha337
      @TheBuddha337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Alstott will forever be one of my favorite players to see highlights of. Just pure power. He definitely didn't have break away speed. But he didn't need it.
      I wish fullbacks would make a return lol.

    • @TheBuddha337
      @TheBuddha337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's like 3 true fullbacks in the league

    • @whatssogoodaboutindy6696
      @whatssogoodaboutindy6696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He looked like a hunchback He-man with that thing on. He had or nearly ran for 1,000 yards as a fullback.

  • @lordstian4233
    @lordstian4233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    It's a neat power boost item that adds +10 to your strength and durability attributes. I don't get why people don't use it more in their builds.

    • @kablechrist
      @kablechrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ya but -5 agility, -5 speed. So it depends on your build, and if you're trying to min/max because it's a tradeoff for sure.

    • @commiehunter733
      @commiehunter733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They work well if you like hitting helmet to helmet

    • @Boots_McScoots
      @Boots_McScoots ปีที่แล้ว

      It's off-meta these days, sadly.

    • @ginorengifo8692
      @ginorengifo8692 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @oaktownstunna
    @oaktownstunna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Mike Alstott was legendary with his neck roll and power running.

  • @Seveneleven44
    @Seveneleven44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I was around 8-10 years old, so around 95-97, our high school team was great and the RB wore #14, with a visor and neck roll with the jersey over the roll and sewn into the pads. He also wore soccer cleats before it was a thing and had those things spatted so much you could probably run his foot over with a truck and he wouldn’t feel it. I can still see him scurrying down the sideline with those enormous pads flapping like wings as guys dove at his feet. This kid has back to back 1700+ yard seasons and was the reason the team was back to back district champs. Still one of the coolest looks of all time.

  • @NoNeckKota
    @NoNeckKota 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Mike Alstott was one of the last players who made the neck pad look.

    • @Lucky-sh1dm
      @Lucky-sh1dm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Namfonos he was the last of the real Mohicans

    • @LemonyoLemons
      @LemonyoLemons 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      FB reallly isnt a position anymore correct?, Should just be called a BB for Back-Blocker :D

    • @ss_whole
      @ss_whole 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Patriots James Develin wore one just a couple years ago.

    • @jeffreyzeigler2273
      @jeffreyzeigler2273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just dont understand why he's not in the Hall of Fame

    • @dellis4320
      @dellis4320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was more of a tailback

  • @justinchimento5654
    @justinchimento5654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I used to rock a neck roll in highschool and to be honest it really helped my neck a lot and I say that despite what research says now because my problem was the way my neck would snap up for some reason when I was a lineman more than it should so that extra support helped keep that from happening. Sure it wasn't gonna prevent a concussion or anything but it helped with my playing posture which helped step up my game even though I knew I was never gonna get a scholarship or anything but it's always more fun when you do a little better.

    • @jrob4795
      @jrob4795 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said.

    • @K37-h1z
      @K37-h1z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had one in high-school. I wanted to be kool

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    The fullbacks with the massive pads under the jersey was such an intimidating look

    • @fadercreek
      @fadercreek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      watch defensive minded football coaches bring the fullback back mark my words

    • @CarlosGonzalez-wb2sg
      @CarlosGonzalez-wb2sg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lorenzo neal

    • @skylinesranches2
      @skylinesranches2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fadercreek It’s a passing league. Fullbacks are dead

    • @fadercreek
      @fadercreek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skylinesranches2 not if they can become good receivers

    • @skylinesranches2
      @skylinesranches2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fadercreek I don’t think you actually know what a fullback is or does

  • @ae746890
    @ae746890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I played in the Big10 from 96-2000. We started w the huge foam collars, then evolved to cowboy collars…. Then lineman started wearing wide receiver pads to enhance range of motion. I think that was the catalyst. Lotta guys felt constricted in collars. If you were a down guy, the thing often prevented you from seeing what was in front of you. When I got to the pros, the thing practically disappeared completely.

    • @GiantsRTheBest1
      @GiantsRTheBest1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where did you play professional football?

    • @starblender
      @starblender ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@GiantsRTheBest1his mind 😅

  • @melroze
    @melroze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Back in the day Christian Okoye always looked in beast mode with that collar. So did Mike Alstott.

  • @glennrugar554
    @glennrugar554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    My favorite part of creating a player in NFL 2k5 was being able to pick things like the neck pad and mouth pieces for your player

  • @Justamanandhisdogthor
    @Justamanandhisdogthor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for including the James Devlin run. One of the reasons Bill still loved the FB position. Highly underrated highlight

  • @ShawnMcClurg
    @ShawnMcClurg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    When I was in high school we played this team called Martins Ferry, and their star fullback/lineman wore a cowboy collar, I think he was first team All-state in football and wrestling. He actually was the inspiration for me to wear one when I got to college.
    Great video as always KTO, keep it up dude!

    • @jruth77
      @jruth77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Talking about eastern Ohio?

    • @ShawnMcClurg
      @ShawnMcClurg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jruth77 Yeah by Wheeling WV

    • @jruth77
      @jruth77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ShawnMcClurg haha I’m from central Ohio and am familiar with eastern Ohio. We wrestled Martin’s ferry, claymont, Steubenville, st clairsville, Barnesville and so on in high school a bunch

    • @JJS1985
      @JJS1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Did you play football or did you wear it to class for intimidation?

    • @timc4693
      @timc4693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JJS1985 said the badass on the internet

  • @silendt
    @silendt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for showing Bryan Cox some love. When I think neck pad, the immediate image in my head is Bryan Cox on the mid-nineties Bears, with that folding chair sticking out the back of his collar!

    • @GB1Channel
      @GB1Channel หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fwiw… Cox played college ball at Western Illinois

  • @southern_populist3406
    @southern_populist3406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I've still got my old collar from high school and I loved playing with it for the intimidation factor that had. That being said I learned some valuable lessons if you're going to use one.
    First off you got to make sure you form tackle because if you lead with your head the restriction will actually make it worse because it pretty much guarantees that the entire force is going to straight into your neck.
    Secondly depending on how well fitted your pads and collar combination are it severely limits how much your head can move. This might not sound too bad but there are several times where I pretty much had to turn my entire body to look if it was too far to the side.
    Like I said don't regret wearing it but you do have to change your game a bit if you're not used to it.

    • @imaouima
      @imaouima 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It must have been great for naps on the sideline though.

    • @southern_populist3406
      @southern_populist3406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@imaouima 10/10 would recommend

    • @421less1
      @421less1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I threw my buddies on one game as a joke when he was hurt. I was playing tight end and yeah 3 plays in i went to turn around and was like "oh fuck this is all wrong" and had to take it out. Fucking thing could not be more in the way.

    • @southern_populist3406
      @southern_populist3406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@421less1 playing fullback made it a little easier since I was either running or hunting linebackers in a straigt line but on defence I don't know how any of the high level guys can stand to play with them.

    • @foxfire1112
      @foxfire1112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you still have it?

  • @BondandBourne
    @BondandBourne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Every time I saw Tedy Bruschi walking out of the patriots tunnel with that giant neck pad I got chills

  • @Snavea311
    @Snavea311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    Let’s get this man to 1 mil subs he deserves it I l have been watching for a long time

    • @zerksy
      @zerksy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr I remember making a comment like this over 4 years ago and him hearting it GOAT content

    • @poletooke4691
      @poletooke4691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, he does.

    • @goochfitness26
      @goochfitness26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts same

    • @steveneisgrau
      @steveneisgrau 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big time. K the oracle is a must watch

    • @GraeVTrain
      @GraeVTrain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤙🏻

  • @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
    @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ladamian Tomlinson with the tinted visor while killing defenders on the field will always be iconic.

  • @joshneumann7364
    @joshneumann7364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I didnt even know about Cory Schlesinger until my dad saw he was one of my teachers in high school. Schles was a coolest chillest giant man ever

  • @humdrumdontsuccumb
    @humdrumdontsuccumb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact: The Steeler blasting Earl Campell was Donnie Shell. In college, we called him the Donnie Neck because of his massive neck muscles. When he wore turtleneck sweaters it looked like he was wearing a collar underneath. After signing with the steelers he bought a car with a vanity tag that read "D Neck".

  • @goochfitness26
    @goochfitness26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Bro Schlesinger was my favorite player for so long him and Calvin are my favorite lions players of all time. Dude was a beast. He's the reason I wore 30 most of my life and the reason I started out as a fullback who went head first into the hole. I got to meet him a few times and he was so cool. Greatest moment of my life was meeting him

  • @raheim21
    @raheim21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was a great video! Brought back ole nostalgia. Bryan Cox, Zach Thomas, Lorenzo Neal, Bill Romanoski. Takeo Spikes when asked why was his neck so big he said that a coach told him having a big neck would prevent concussions.

  • @dapumpking7202
    @dapumpking7202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    KTO is one of the best NFL ytbers there is, gives us epic knowledge 24/7!

  • @ohheychris
    @ohheychris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I"ll raise my hand on this one. I wore a cowboy collar all throughout high school in 2000-2004. With my jersey tucked over it. I was trying to mimic Mike Alstott (who played 25 miles up the road at JCA) who I think was just starting his reign in the NFL. I looked like a badass then and digging out an old yearbook right now... Yeah, still badass. (edit: Honestly, I think it did help with neck safety, but when it comes to my noggin... yeah not so much.)

    • @birdog9633
      @birdog9633 ปีที่แล้ว

      it 100% helped my chronic neck! in 2013 (senior year) I rocked one all year and my stinging I would get in my neck during a tackle almost completely vanished lol

    • @spawnofsatan117
      @spawnofsatan117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joliet catholic was in our conference. They were a beast at football but we always beat them in basketball. I went to st Joe's 2000 - 2004

  • @thehammer800
    @thehammer800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Miss the big full backs with the neckpads. Mike allstot, lorenzo neal were classic examples

    • @dspsblyuth
      @dspsblyuth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I miss fullbacks

    • @Tyrunner0097
      @Tyrunner0097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      William Henderson.

    • @philippebien5429
      @philippebien5429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assumed fullbacks would have been heavy in the rotation for offence. Boy was I wrong! I still see a need for them in the spread out offence playbooks. They can provide pass blocking and still do draws and counter plays from the shotgun.

    • @matthewpowers1920
      @matthewpowers1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tom Rathman

    • @iwannalickyaasscrack2226
      @iwannalickyaasscrack2226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LORENZO NEAL WAS THE MAN

  • @TheDaninator
    @TheDaninator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Neck pads were huge (figuratively and literally) on my high school team back in the late 90s. Mike Alstott comes to mind as a player who rocked that neck pad well.

  • @rickdeckard7161
    @rickdeckard7161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I played Jr high to college football from 99-2007 and wore a cowboy collar as a O/D lineman and LB mostly. I used to get "stingers" even though we were taught tackling safety very well. Especially around the time Corey Stringer died (yes dehydration is a whole different issue, but safety in all aspects were emphasized even more)
    once I wore a cowboy collar I never had another issue other than range of motion in a 3pt stance. I used to be reluctant to hit/block as hard because I didn't want to hurt my neck until I wore one of the collars. Plus I played LB mostly looking sweet with my #54 😂

    • @armybeef68
      @armybeef68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, Junior High in 1999, which means you were like 12 or 13, which means you were born in 1986 or 87, and now you're 35, how does it feel being old?...lol

    • @pakuma3
      @pakuma3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armybeef68 it sucks, take good care of your body while you're young, train, but don't over do it, there are injuries that will haunt your for life

  • @andrewcrabtree3362
    @andrewcrabtree3362 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I played fullback in middle, high school, and college. I wore the number 40 because I idolized Jim Kleinsasser, and Mike Alstot. I wore the neck roll, under the jersey of course.

    • @henrylicious
      @henrylicious หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kleinsasser was more of an undersized guard.

  • @TheSteelerFan58
    @TheSteelerFan58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I played with one of these butterfly collars. Honestly I feel like I could never have played without it after my pinched nerve.

    • @TheAve610
      @TheAve610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had the exact same problem pinched it my junior year and had problems all season. Threw on my butterfly collar and played pain free all of senior year.

    • @Stable_Genius
      @Stable_Genius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol! I did, too, then upgraded to cowboy collar.

  • @DoubleRBlaxican
    @DoubleRBlaxican 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having the neck roll under the jersey really gave it that iconic cartoony look. Never knew that was where it actually came from and that they actually looked like that.

  • @solindefault
    @solindefault 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vander Esch still got one makes him look bad ass… wish he played like one tho

    • @mojoetube9930
      @mojoetube9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vander Esh didn't look too bad last season especially in that playoff game against the 49ers he balled out especially on the first down saving tackle on Deebo Samuel were talking about DEEBO FUCKING SAMUEL

    • @solindefault
      @solindefault 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mojoetube9930 yes that was literally all he did last year

  • @GetToughOrDie
    @GetToughOrDie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had the Cowboy Collar and Let me tell you! THEY WERE THE BEST IF YOU WERE A LINEBACKER/FULLBACK! I WAS BOTH..SO IT HELPED ALOT! If it was worn right it didn't let your head or neck go back and kept everything STRAIGHT! And it literally made you tackle or Block SO MUCH BETTER! Granted you still had to have Very Good Technique!

  • @SuperHero3
    @SuperHero3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I honestly thought I was the only person who noticed this, bless you KTO! Anyone else notice the trend of extra small shoulder pads? Giants and Seahawks used to wear those alot.

  • @busyrand
    @busyrand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My neckroll saved my neck health in highschool during my linebacker days. I had to purchase brand new shoulder pads, and spider pads to protect my body from the heavy hits. I'm glad the game has been made safer. It was fun, but safety is king.

    • @azeer777
      @azeer777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You sound brittle, maybe you shouldn't of played football.

  • @fishflake1209
    @fishflake1209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:39 Please tell me that Jim’s book was titled, “Otto-Biography.”

  • @dalegribblebountyhunter59
    @dalegribblebountyhunter59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The neck pad absolutely restricts movement, not quite sure if that would help head injuries but it would definitely help to prevent neck injuries

  • @LordDefekator
    @LordDefekator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mike Alsttott was an iconic example too

  • @joee1213
    @joee1213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pacifier will always be cool. Neck roll and cowboy collar wise, I get it. It definitely helps you with your head popping back. Impact etc. It also can help guys that get stingers regularly or have nerve issues. My brother had to wear one senior year for that reason. I wore a cowboy collar in high school and loved it. Wore it my redshirt freshman year too. Got rid of it after that. Thing is, once you get to a higher level, you lose anything that’s slowing you down or inhibiting your speed. Just to be able to compete. I wanted smaller pads, smaller everything to keep up. If you can do the job with it, more power to you, and if you need it for safety issues/physical issues, I get it. But the game is faster. You’ll see them come back as the game moves back to big LBs, big RBs, FBs, and more ground game I formation offenses. It’s been play action and pro style so long now. It’s pass and speedy Gonzalez most of the time. But we’re already seeing TE’s coming back. We’re also seeing teams get destroyed at power running offenses. So it’s cyclical. It’ll go back to 230-250 lb lbs, fbs and Rbs. And when that happens they’ll be needed again by some guys.

  • @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55
    @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I used a cowboy collar back in the day, back when head to head collisions were allowed. I can't believe they discontinued making them

    • @Njbear7453
      @Njbear7453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I heard that I was shocked

  • @gayealisir5661
    @gayealisir5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    KTO pound for pound is one of the best documentary style sports You-tubers. His content is on par if not better than many big budget broadcasts.

  • @JobberJim
    @JobberJim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to wear one in high school, back in 2003. I just liked that it made me look bigger.

    • @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55
      @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wore one in the same era. I liked that it kept your head from whipping back when you tackle. Especially back when leading with your head was acceptable.

  • @unclephill4764
    @unclephill4764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a butterfly restrictor, made me feel unstoppable. Broke a couple of them 🤣 concussions made me feel stopped though

  • @ronpeacock9939
    @ronpeacock9939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I remember starting with a foam Collar when I played in HS.. I lost it quickly when I couldn't move my head enough. I think part of the problem with them is that the ones like Bryan Cox wore, forced you to hit with the crown.. and the NFL is really working to take those hits away.

    • @OneOut1
      @OneOut1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. We were coached to hit with the crown because that kept your spine straight and most power is generated through the crown down along a straigjt spine.

    • @TeemoQuinton
      @TeemoQuinton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shame they refuse to take action against running backs using their helmet

  • @dingusmagee3326
    @dingusmagee3326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something similar has gone on in motocross and downhill mountain biking. They had these halo devices you would wear under a full face helmet, to protect the neck. For a while, it was the must-have accessory for ultimate badassery. Now-a-days, you rarely see them, because of the dubious effectiveness and restriction of range-of-motion. I still have my $600 carbon fiber Alpinestars neck brace, that lives in storage. When I was a big football fan and played alot of Madden on PS2, a neck pad was a requirement for my create-a-player

  • @joeyyoho3670
    @joeyyoho3670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    So you think the cowboy collar, that was invented by a doctor from Oklahoma State, where their mascot is the cowboys, was named that because a cowboys player wore it in the NFL?
    You don't think it might have had something to do with the Oklahoma State Cowboy that invented it?

    • @daveycash3479
      @daveycash3479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same. I don’t know either way but that’s where my mind went.

    • @Njbear7453
      @Njbear7453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      after all, Gatorade is called Gatorade for a reason

    • @Cruz474
      @Cruz474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was because it looked like a collar real cowboys would wear.

    • @wetblanket1977
      @wetblanket1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Came here to write the exact same thing

    • @area.man.
      @area.man. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I am not the only one thinking this.

  • @bearfootball1
    @bearfootball1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used the cowboy collar for years and it absolutely worked. Like night and day difference. It did limit the range of motion, but the trade off was well worth it.

  • @dave0110aaaa
    @dave0110aaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    First, I am not an expert. Second, I grew up and played football through college in the 1980's. I wore a foam collar for help preventing hyper-extension of the neck backwards and to the sides. We were always taught correct tackling: hitting with the shoulder pads not the head. But the game is brutal, and whether intended or not, a tacklers head gets involved in the tackle...that's just the game. Third, I played nose guard and middle linebacker...and looking bigger and more intimidating is always a plus...it's a tough game and every advantage helps. Finally, now as an old man I didn't want my sons to play...I pushed them towards other sports (non-contact sports). I am suffering from degenerative arthritis and don't wish anyone that disease. If you play football at any level...please take care of yourself and have fun.

    • @chadmasters3935
      @chadmasters3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I also played same time as you did up to the JC level. The thing that scared a lot of us back then was being paralyzed due to a neck injury. Concussions were not treated as they are now. There was always stories in the news on TV, magazines or papers about some player becoming a quadriplegic from a collision in a football game every season. I had been concussed multiple times but still my fear was a neck injury.

    • @timbrown5576
      @timbrown5576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chadmasters3935 Paralysis scares me too. I was playing football in 1985 when I heard that Marc Buoniconti became paralyzed making a tackle. I never thought that playing this game could cause such a major injury. I finished my season but I've never played since then and I have no regrets.

    • @eliwilson3902
      @eliwilson3902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My dad played college football in the late 80s early 90s and he also preferred me and my brother to not play football. I actually ended up playing rugby because he supported me playing that. It's statistically safer with less head injuries which is what he was really worried about. My brother is more athletic than me and he's a college baseball player now. I'm sure he'd have been great at football but he never got into it. My dad wishes he'd have played college baseball instead. Probably would have helped him out in the long run. He's afraid of even play golf now afraid he may re injure his back on a swing. Crazy from coming from a guy who used to play football with a cut mouthpiece.

    • @Day-ZDuke
      @Day-ZDuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Similar story for myself, my Dad preferred myself and my brother not to play football; instead we played soccer and baseball in the summer, hockey in the wintertime (and some summer too)
      Even though hockey involved hitting, the physics and momentum of the game is different, there is not as much impact to the head and neck, your body is more upright when being hit so the force generally distributed through your body sideways

  • @pierosanchez2010
    @pierosanchez2010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone loved the cowboy collar when I played in the early 2000’s. It’s crazy how they just disappeared

  • @joeyh1678
    @joeyh1678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I gotta say when I was growing up with highlights of Al Wilson at Tennessee, that was one badass look and for him perfectly.

  • @MRdexterhenry
    @MRdexterhenry ปีที่แล้ว

    cousin was a sports med student during this era and said that a common injury with the neckpads was they would slip a bit to the left or right, then instead of being support it would just ram into where your neck connects to your spine.

  • @damienrowley443
    @damienrowley443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You’re right, on the goal line and you need a yard or two, there’s nothing quite as satisfying as watching a big ol’ fullback with a neck pad punching it into the end zone. 😎

  • @maxfy89
    @maxfy89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember being more than a little excited when I tweaked my neck in JV football my soph year because it meant I could get my dad to buy a cowboy collar. Wore it until senior year when I upgraded to a butterfly neck plate. Probably never hit anyone hard enough to necessitate it's use, but damn I felt like I looked tough as hell.

    • @dislikebutton4981
      @dislikebutton4981 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you look good, you feel good, you play good.

  • @J.R.Carrel
    @J.R.Carrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mike alstott with the neck roll and Brian Dawkins with the blacked out visor that's Style

  • @kevinjohanson5718
    @kevinjohanson5718 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i was an offensive lineman in high school and wore the mcdavid cowboy collar bc i kept getting stingers in my neck from all the hard hits. the collar fixed that issue bc it stopped my neck from being tweaked. the cool factor was an added bonus. but i will say it 100% saved me from any more neck injuries from my sophomore year onward.

  • @bluefost
    @bluefost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mike Alstott in my opinion was the last best player with a neckpad.

    • @LordDefekator
      @LordDefekator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, nobody beats Brian Cox on neckpad departament

    • @andrewbeam3006
      @andrewbeam3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LordDefekator nah Mike Alstott is better known for the look and power style running

  • @NoCheeseNoMercy
    @NoCheeseNoMercy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you were in middle school, you feared the giant kids with cowboy collars 😂

  • @bthorn5035
    @bthorn5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wore a neck roll to limit my head movement. I had a nasty disc injury early and the roll really helped.

  • @dinos6231
    @dinos6231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 43 years old this video brought back incredible memories with impeccable presentation well done

  • @CorporalTank11
    @CorporalTank11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mike Alstott was the coolest guy ever with the neck pad! Miss that era of football.

  • @gwood69
    @gwood69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up at the end of the neck pad era and damn near our whole football team had one we were like iconic for our neck rolls and big ass shoulder pads 😂 it’s gladiator shit it’s your armor that shit was awesome I love it

  • @Conrad6900
    @Conrad6900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh man, I’m early & btw love your content KTO never stop doing it! 🔥🙌🏻

  • @DragNetJoe
    @DragNetJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wore one back in the 80's, they definitely work. But the style of play was so different. You could sort of raise your chin and lock your helmet into the neck-roll and just drill people with your head. What would get you a flag today was taught in every practice back then. The pads I wore as a 17 year old were probably bigger than NFL linemen wear today.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda wish we had 2 leagues - one with pass biased rules and one with run biased rules, just so we can some some of that old school still LOL

    • @ianobrien3248
      @ianobrien3248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pop Warner pads then are bigger than NFL pads now lol

    • @lopoa126
      @lopoa126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RyTrapp0 concussions and suicides are what you get with your second version

  • @ignatiuscheese6807
    @ignatiuscheese6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Blast from the past! I wore a neck roll for years when I played. I don't recall it ever actually doing anything beneficial, it was just part of the kit at the time. Don't recall ever thinking "glad I was wearing that" after a big hit or anything. Maybe just me and I didn't put a lot of thought into it. Could say that about a few things of my younger self though.

  • @stocksurfing5158
    @stocksurfing5158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played fullback and middle linebacker. I had a neckroll then a cowboy collar and the neck roll was better and more comfortable. I went back to the foam roll. I also lead with my head (not recommended)

  • @TheDucatiPilot
    @TheDucatiPilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You forgot to mention Mike Alstott and Tom Rathman. Two neck pad legends!

  • @joeysanders4094
    @joeysanders4094 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in the 80s the form tackling we were taught was putting the face right between the ball carriers numbers, wrap up, and explode through. It was a much more physical way of tackling and blocking then. The neck roll was worn by many back then because of this style of play and the fundamentals taught. Another gear set many used then, that is not seen today is the hand and arm padding. Guys literally padded themselves from the hands to the biceps. Once again the fundamentals like forearm shots were regularly used in blocking and blocking defense back then. We also wore our hip, butt, thigh, and knee pads then too. These are also rarely seen nowadays. The game has changed. It's much more finesse, and speed now.

  • @ianbones3021
    @ianbones3021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The amount of work this guy does for every video is crazy

    • @chrisconley8583
      @chrisconley8583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah like totally glossing over that a guy at Oklahoma State named his product for the team in Dallas and not the nickname of the school he worked for, nicknamed the “Cowboys”. Then there’s Steve Grogan, who looked “ridiculous” even though he was a rare QB that wore a collar and had to wear one because he had a herniated disc playing for a 1-15 team.

    • @ianbones3021
      @ianbones3021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisconley8583 do you happen to know where the name “whale tale” neck pad roll comes from

  • @drudawg4208
    @drudawg4208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used one. It encouraged me go hit with my head obviously, and well yes suffered a concussion or ten. I did need it for my neck issues I was born with.

  • @docholliday2016
    @docholliday2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wanna know why the NFL banned those gladiator style “barrier” facemasks that defensive players typically wore. Those were legit

    • @tonyj797
      @tonyj797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember a guy on the NY Giants use to wear one

  • @R3troZone
    @R3troZone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good old Bryan Cox. The reason I played linebacker and wore number 51 in my football days. I wore a neckpad back in the day. We called them horse collars. It wasn't about look, it was to prevent whiplash because when two people are running at each other full speed and slam into each other as hard as they can, your head is gonna snap back. The collar took up some of that impact and prevented injury.
    Also I don't know where you got your info, but no coach anywhere has ever said "lead with your head when tackling." lol
    It's always been about planting your shoulder between the chest and waist and driving with your legs.

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You can’t talk about neck pads without Brian Cox, period!

  • @corbanfreese6312
    @corbanfreese6312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KTO bring back the podcast sports therapy. Loved listening to that, great topics and loved the overall feel.

  • @quang4055
    @quang4055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mike alstott neck pad made him a real life juggernaut.

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When Brian Bozworth started wearing his a bunch of guys I played football with started wearing neck rolls and the senior got to wear his number.
    I was fine with #60 after I found out my tiny hands couldn't hang on to the football and I sucked as a running back. I was the fastest guy as an offensive lineman lineman in three years of football. I loved running plays

  • @daniekogivens5042
    @daniekogivens5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ruben Foster when he was at Alabama was the last person that looked pretty cool wearing it.. but I'm sure him running down on kickoffs absolutely obliterating people definitely helped 😂

  • @jonathanrodriguez5729
    @jonathanrodriguez5729 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This past year vanderish just retired because he had a neck injury when he got blocked by Trent Williams.

  • @jameshardensfatsuit5726
    @jameshardensfatsuit5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm hurt you didn't include Mike Alstott 😂

  • @ericstewart0921
    @ericstewart0921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The cowboy collar was genuinely intimidating. They really did slowly fade away without anyone noticing.

  • @LprogressivesANDliberals
    @LprogressivesANDliberals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still use them on madden 😤💯💪🏾 the cowboy collar and butterfly

  • @Erik_Danley
    @Erik_Danley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you mention, the doctor who invented the “cowboy collar” was at Oklahoma State. Their team nickname is the cowboys. I wonder if there is an understandable mixup here because you state that it got this nickname due to a Cowboys (Dallas Cowboys) player first wearing it?

  • @chrish5018
    @chrish5018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m glad this has been noticed. I miss the neck pad and bigger shoulder pads. Now everybody wears the same thing.

  • @Goo4You135
    @Goo4You135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every one of KTO's endings are fire. When that song drops it just hits everytime.

  • @cole_peterson
    @cole_peterson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Absolutely crazy how close you are to a million subs man. Good for you well deserved been here since 2019 love the videos dog. Also crazy how when i was growing up playing football(10-12 years ago), we were taught to lower our head... Crazy

  • @danieldevito6380
    @danieldevito6380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought Bosworth looked so friggin menacing with that neck roll. The dude was an ABSOLUTE manic.

  • @sammyvh11
    @sammyvh11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With the rules changes in football since the 1970s less equipment below the head has become the norm. I always said that the darn neck things never worked and I played in the 70s at the high school level. I tried one on and it hindered my mobility and vision. Now I believe those small shoulder pads used cause more injuries.

  • @kevinvilmont6061
    @kevinvilmont6061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anvil Head stole my hookup in college. I’m in her dorm room, knock at the door. It’s a freshman Anvil Head at NU. She invited him to stay and she invited me to leave. 2 TD’s to beat Miami and win the National championship absolved all resentments. Great Husker ! Cory Schlesinger. GBR!

  • @ethanladymon6760
    @ethanladymon6760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was completely influenced by all of those guys in the 90s with their neck rolls. I wore one from peewees all the way up to my senior year in high school. When I played in college, I never had one and I totally felt quicker and much more aware of what is going on around me. I can attest to the limited mobility of the neck roll and feel pretty dumb for wearing one all of those years.ha

  • @TheTEN24
    @TheTEN24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These were iconic for sure back in the day, a cool informative video as always KTO

  • @hothardy5942
    @hothardy5942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m South African and grew up playing rugby and to me it just seems absurd that you lot used to tackle head on. That’s literally insane.
    Attempting such a tackle in rugby would’ve gotten you banned from the sport, not to mention the health issues that comes with that
    Glad to see that the player safety standards have evolved though

    • @hothardy5942
      @hothardy5942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Progression Personified crazy stuff 💀💀💀

    • @Redbeardedbadass
      @Redbeardedbadass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Progression Personified it is a contact sport. Now everybody is a bunch of pussies. You shouldnt be forced to hold back in a contact sport. You know the risk when you play the game. You didnt even have to be the most athletic player back then to be good. You just had to be tough. Dick Butkis was a horrible athlete but he was tough and regarded as one of the best linebackers ever.

  • @RedWingsninetyone
    @RedWingsninetyone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Corey Schlesinger. He broke a few facemasks in his day. Now teaches CAD in the Detroit area and is still awesome from what I hear!

  • @gooseflatwaterfowlers
    @gooseflatwaterfowlers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really think the down turn in neck pad use has upped the number of concussions. The neck pad was designed to stop the head from over extending back which can cause concussions. I wore one for 5 of the 6 years I played stopped wearing it my last year got 2 concussions during the year within 2 days. Seriously think the neck roll aids in concussion prevention

  • @martinbrandt6079
    @martinbrandt6079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you could do a similar video on whatever happened to all the arm protection/weoponizing that is now completely gone. Linemen especially used to wrap up every part of their arms and hands, sometimes in hardened plaster. Is it just a question of the NFL having outlawed it?

  • @backlash6543
    @backlash6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Begin video at 6:37....jesus christ it took this guy forever to get to the point.

  • @z.scott.porter
    @z.scott.porter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I played in the 90s (high school) and cowboy collars were all over the place. They did add an intimidation factor for sure.

    • @marcellussims4831
      @marcellussims4831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was the "Dickerson" face mask a thing where you played ball?
      I remember everybody and their cousin wanted to have that certain kind of face mask, along with the horseshoe, not the neck roll but the horseshoe LOL

    • @z.scott.porter
      @z.scott.porter ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcellussims4831 Lol, yup. You bet.