Fans REJECTED Black Harry Osborn And Director DEFENDS Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is DOA because Disney Marvel pushed a black Harry Osborn. Now the director is running damage control defending the series.
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Guess I'll just rewatch the 90s animated series✌️
This version of Harry Osborn looks more like a "Deshawn Williams". I am sticking with the Spectacular Spider Man (2008) and '94 Spider Man Animated series.
Watch Spectacular Spider-Man too.
@@ElfireIIwhich had a raceswapped Liz Allen 😂
@@ggamemaster1689why not both 1981 Spider-Man cartoons
The only racial variant Spider-Man that was cool was 1978 Japanese Supaidaaman 😂
@@budgiecat9039Except Liz Allen was written as a good character in Spectacular Spider-Man, since I don't remember Liz being that important of a character in the original comics. I could be wrong though.
The art style is sooooo bad, and Harry’s design is the worst design I’ve ever seen. I cannot even begin to fathom what’s going on in the office over there at Marvel.
It looks as if it was thrown together on the back of an envelope during lunch break.
He looks like the wimpy Boyfriend in that Nubai real one comic.
Harry "generic diversity quota black dude" Osborn.
Him acting as Green Goblin will be just normal BLM rioter behavioral pattern.
Have you ever been to a mental asylum?
@@Raximus3000 No he is just a fan upset and confused.
osborn is now Pdiddy
lmao
Ay he got the waves tho
Nah, he ain't looking for becoming Spider-Man's mentor. He is looking for his ass. Gotta go and call the police.
Green Gobiln: " Your ass is mine Spiderman."
I'm surprised they didn't make MJ black also
I thought Harry Osborn was black Mary Jane
They made MJ Asian.
MJ's not even in the series.
she is her name is zendya
@@GHOST-AI1 Zendya plays MJ in the MCU movies, MJ is not in this animated series.
This version of Harry Osborn looks more like a "Deshawn Williams". I am sticking with the Spectacular Spider Man (2008) and '94 Spider Man Animated series.
So we’re Team Old Universes Now?🤔
Peter Parker, not Miles Morales, is Spiderman. Steve Rogers, not Sam Wilson, is Captain America. Changing the race and/or gender means it is not the same character.
While I'm not going to defend Marvel's failed attempts at legacy characters, you're going to have to take an "all or nothing" stance on this. If Miles Morales cannot be Spiderman, Ben Reilly also cannot be Spiderman.
@critica77y77 ben reilly isn't spiderman tho. The at least gave him a different name
@@critica77y77 he ain’t Spider-Man either. He’s the Scarlet Spider. And before that, he was Kaine, a *much* darker and more interesting character than Miles.
But they did have him use the name “Spiderman” during a period of time when Peter was retired.
I suppose I could made my point better if I said that if there’s no way you could have _theoretically_ accepted Miles as Spiderman, you also can’t accept Scott Lang as Ant-Man.
@@critica77y77 Stan Lee literally said anybody can be Spider-Man. Peter is Peter, and Miles is Miles. But they're both Spider-Man.
They fully understand that 99% of the potential audience doesn’t want their bullshit so they just destroy the property as much as possible.
It looks like Georgia, the archer art company and that style, The ARCHER, animated style it allows still backgrounds and lots of non human requirements for mainline editing and being finalized
If it was set in the MCU, MJ would still be black. So….
I think Mary Jane, like Peter Parker, isn't allowed to be raceswapped as per Stan Lee
But Sony and Disney got slick since Stan probably didn't include the initials "MJ", therefore "MJ" could be raceswapped.
That's why when she said her actual name, it wasn't Mary Jane it was Michelle Jones.
@@budgiecat9039 I still hate the mcu version of flash
@budgiecat9039 However it was really funny seeing Willem Defoe as Norman reacting to Michelle like "MJ but not Mary Jane...okay then."
Ever since 'Spectacular Spider-Man got cut short, every 'Spider-Man' cartoon since then has sucked.
I noticed that. Spectacular Spider-Man was awesome. Wish they did a season 3 at least
@@elmermedina1713 Instead, we got the insultingly jokey 'Ultimate Spider-Man', which embodies all my fears of Disney's acquisition of Marvel made flesh.
Spectacular was decent.
Spectacular, Earths Mightiest, and Armored Adventures were among the last good animated marvel shows. all of them were cut short…
@@ElfireII Also, 'Wolverine & The X-Men'.
DEFEND IT ALL THEY WANT, I JUST NOT GOING TO BUY/SUPPORT THEM ANYMORE
This is why Disney should never own the rights to Spider-Man. Look how they massacred Luke Skywalker. We don't need that to happen to Spidey. He's already been through enough.
The IMDB Listing doesn't have a character listed for Gwen Stacy or Mary Jane Watson. Neither of those appear on the list.
So they may Not be Swapping those characters, simply erasing them from existence entirely.
Not sure which would be worse.
Better to not have them associated with this travesty.
Evil cannot create anything new; they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made
JRR Tolkien
Evil allowed the stealth game LotR Gollum and the "prequel" film War of the Rohirrim manifest.
😂🤣😂🤣😂if you consider this evil man y’all got problems
I think we all owe Sony an apology. The Spectacular Spider-Man was cancelled for Ultimate Spider-Man and it only got worse.
I would expect the director to defend the series; it's his creation, he's biased. Of course, _he_ can enjoy it while _we_ ignore it.
The director’s not at fault.
It’s whoever didn’t kick the director’s ass and say “Norman Osborn is WHITE, dammit” that’s to blame.
No, the director IS at fault. They shouldn’t have had this idea in the first place. This is such a dumb comment to make.
“Lol it’s not Hitler’s fault he initiated genocide. It’s the fault of the people who enabled him. Surely Hitler’s terrible decisions had nothing to do with it.”
What a dumb comment. It’s still the director’s fault regardless of who enabled them. Did you even think when making this?
You have to be told that Harry Osborn, that how far they've gone off the rail with the character. As for Norman Osborn, the man is the most sadistic Spiderman villain who has made Peter suffer arguably more then anyone else and now they look like their going the mentor route. That like making the Joker Batmans mentor! As a black man I have never asked for this and sure as heck don't want it either.
"Ditko would hate diversity"
Bruh
Bro was just yapping😆
He can defend it all he wants, it’ll be ANOTHER Marvel failure.
Outside of Rivals Marvel has been a dismal flop.
Rivals is successful because the Eastern game developers did everything the Western entertainment industry didn't.
I'd rather watch Spider-Man Unlimited which was called out for being lame in the 1990s.
wait, wait - if that's what the new Harry/iet Osborn looks like, are they gonna make Norman Osborn an evil *black* capitalist? Are they allowed to have minority villains?
he'll be redeemable
Oswaldo Cobblepot 😂😂😂 Who knew The Penguin was a sex icon, cabaret starlet ?
Oh, I fully expect them to go out of their way to make him as justified in his actions as possible. Like, at the expense of the story and all sense of logical reasoning.
There are no 'villains' in the minds of these people. They are just misunderstood victims - unless they are white.
Its the reason why Norman Osborn in the comics got his 'goblin sin removed' thus making him instantly redeemed.
Black Osborn won't become goblin because that would make him a villain and thus we get Iron Patriot... Who will be incredibly left leaning.
Oh they can defend whatever, whenever, whoever. I won't be watching it.
Is it really that hard to make a *GOOD* Spider-Man show?
"We will create something new." They say as they rip a random npc from the sbl Spiderman game and call them Harry Osborn.
That trash is DOA
Cool! Dead or Alive!
@@JV-nm1fy *OOF*
Lmao i thought dead or alive too
@@technnicalvapor007 Oh wait... I misunderstood the joke or reference didn't I? Let me see if I can fix that...
🎶You spin me right round, baby
right round,
Like a record, baby
Right Round, round, round🎶
Is it the song by dead or alive(music group) or dead or alive(video game franchise)?
Sorry about that... I saw this late at night and i was pretty tired. Again, sorry I didn't understand a possible reference of joke.
@@technnicalvapor007 Dead on Arrival*
I f hate how all these people capitalise on DEI and ESG a concept that was made to improve people lives were twisted to this ugly thing and they gaslight us, saying we are crazy.
You are crazy. New York being full of different ethnicities is the bare minimum of “realistic”. Characters are not defined by their ethnicity they are defined by their actions.
Most Flash Thompsons are bullies to Peter, but fans of Spider-Man. Most Norman Osbornes are rich maniacs who form a bond with Peter over science but wind up being a major antagonist to him later on.
I’m not seeing anything wrong in the trailer. So I’m sorry, but you are acting racist. I’m not saying you are one, but it’s racist behavior to say that a character has to be one specific race just because they were depicted that way before. As if being white or black has anything to do with the story they tell.
Any who made this show is a disgrace and needs to be fired.
At this point I can’t see what their end goal is with the osborns. You gonna turn two of Peter’s biggest enemies black? So that black people can see themselves in the god damn Goblin? What do they even hope to achieve with that???
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I think I’ll skip this one I’m sick of all the race swapping and all the agendas I’d rather watch Spectacular Spider-Man again because that show was really good and it was actual Spider-Man and it was a shame that got cancelled and ended on a cliff hanger i wish we got more of it instead this rubbish
Heh after they replaced Eddie Brock with Harry as Venom in twice in different media's this quite honestly brings a smirk to my face.
The Lee, Romita, Kane era was much better and more defining for the real Spider-Man era than Lee and Ditko. They made him a normal and conservative guy. The Ditko era is fun but overrated. Ditko was better on Dr. Strange.
I would rather see the look on the developers faces WHEN this show completely tanks
So, you like reruns of idiots?
Because that is literaly what you will get, the same old tired excuses and venom!(no pun intented)
@@Raximus3000Yeah, you’re right. They’ll probably blame their failures on some sort of fan hate or something along those lines
@@antonios.1894
Exactly at this point it is beyond tiresome.
And it is on a SPIDERMAN SHOW, how did we have had on the last decade?
I am almost certain they did this on purpose just to get smth more than apathy!
I am actually happy we have a Black Harry Osborn and a Black Norman Osborn
2:58 This is not Harry Osborn. It's a different character. We can see Harry in the trailer wearing a university hoodie I think
After they replaced Eddie Brock with him as Venom in two different media this brings a smirk to my face.
The modern audience looks at their phones and laptops/tablets. So the question is do these idiots even know what modern audience are?. How about for all audiences? 😂😂😂😮
There's a bingo card that I use that has become bigger as time goes, that helps me identify almost automatically things from which I will stay away from, and obviously from which my money is also going to stay away from. "Modernise" is definitely one of the words that are part of this bingo card. There is such an appalling presumptuous narcissistic feeling to the usage of that word.. as if everything that was done before, the source material, the original authors, were just not good enough.
Not intelligent enough. Not correct enough. Not politically correct enough. Not corporate sanitised enough. Who does the people who use this wording think they are? Usually standing on the shoulders of giants, exploiting their talent, skills, etc, and at the same time - in order to prop themselves up - crapping on those original authors? Why is this tolerated?
why are they putting Sister Grim in this? Nico is from the runaways a west coast team of teen heros...I got a feeling peter is gonna get pushed to the side.
Lmao! Are you serious?! I laughed so hard when i read the title cover. 😂😂😂
When I was a kid I watched every episode of the 90’s show at least 12 times…. I was looking forward to this being a spiritual successor 😔 It hurts me personally the extent to which I’ve hated everything I’ve seen about this show. It looks so bad, I wont even consider giving it a chance
I find it funny that some people wanna complain that Miles Morales is a race swap of Peter Parker when he's not and is his own person and his own Spider-Man while Norman and Harry in this cartoon are ACTUAL race swaps of already existing white characters, Peter Parker gatekeepers in a nutshell
Harriette Osborne !! I love it, a lot of us were thinking the same! Great content as always!
I would have preferred a Spider-Man 98.
Spiderman franchise rest in peace 1962-2025
Everything once cool and exciting dies. It's depressing but is there a light at the end of the woke tunnel?
1962 - 1998 (when they completely ended Baby May and brought Aunt May back from the dead).
It ended with the awful dei infested Spider-Man 2 for PS5
Harry is now the strong, independent woman of color Stan Lee and Steve Ditko envisioned.
Harry Osborn? HAH! As if. More like De'Vante Osborn. Norman was abroad and adopted because he was sterile and wanted an heir, even if not his own bloodline.
This is some fever dream Spider-Man. We'll get to the end of the season and realize that Peter has been fighting a fever the entire time. He wakes up and none of this crap actually happened. Ever.
I refuse to even hate-watch this trash.
The 1960's Marvel Heroes and Spider-man cartoon series looks better.
I much rather watch the 1970's Dr. Strange pilot again.
What next, a black homosexual Conan the Barbarian?!
Just make Spiderman 98.
Marvel Comics is dead. it's sad but true. They have destroyed themselves on the Alter of DEI and Modernity and desperately try to gaslight former fans into liking what they are doing to our once beloved stories.
And so is DC Comics.
Is it any wonder good Japanese manga and inde American indie comics are top sellers now?
The heck are you even talking about? First of all, this vid is peddling misinformation. None of the characters were changed to be black. And I've seen people calling the Asian character MJ, that's not MJ. That's Sister Grimm from The Runaways. Stop listening to echo chambers and pay attention to the actual source materials. Also, superheroes have always been diverse and modern, so I have no idea what you're saying about Marvel being dead.
They keep losing.
Why is it so hard for other reviewers to say that the majority of people are simply not on board with the force inserted "Trans-ish" character? I mean it's obvious that they built this series around that character and pushing Boss chicks instead of creating something completely new of their own. I doubt they care as much about the race swapped Harry as the insulting version of an effeminate Damsel-in-distress black young man (i'm black btw). This is clearly agenda driven by a small demographic trying to sell us a "vacuum cleaner." All they/thems have a right to safety and creativity but they just won't stop hyjacking established, masculine franchises. you nailed this critique.
The showrunner looked at made spiderman iconic and decided to do the oppisite😂
....that's a tick on his jersey.
Gimmick infringement.
@@DJ-Krimson-Steele I'M NOT A BUNNY I'M A MOTH
And when they do make something original the execution is absolutely terrible
I legitimately thought Harry was supposed to be female in the series based on the pictures. Not even trolling.
Making Harry Osborn a black woman will make it stand out but not in a good way.
These Nerds that defended Miles Morales are the same nerds that are defending Osborn. This is what they wanted
How would spiderman walk on walls with shoes on?
it's still better then the Tom Holland MCU version
They didn’t even do the web detail on the mask so disrespectful to the character so lazy
I thought that was his DEI love interest, not Harry.
Eh... guess it's back to rewatching Spectacular Spider-Man again. We're never getting a good Spidey show like it again.
This is why I never wanted Sony to give up Spider-Man to Disney.
This aint no classic comic book style this is a rebrand of What If animation 😂
I am not a seer but I can predict that this will do HORRIBLE.
It will burn down.
Sony should sue them. It seems you're intentionally doing this to damage their IP which will eventually affect the movies. So when the movies flop Disney gets the rights back, Sony should definitely sue them
Did you see where the cop looks at the black person with disgust, another DEI writer
I can at least give them a little flack for trying something different visually speaking, even though the execution is not great. I agree it looks ugly, mainly because of the lack of contrast of colors and detail. It has the exact opposite problem of the 2017 Spider-Man cartoon, which was so washed out and flat that it was difficult to follow a point of action whenever there was a fight.
I AM SO TIRED OF RACE SWAPPING RED HAIRED WHITE CHARACTERS OUT FOR BLACK CHARACTERS.
I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY IT!
I hope Venom doesn't show up in this garbage show it always got me angry he was used as mindless tool for the Goblin in Ultimate Spider-Man
Batman Caped Crusader + X-men 97 + spiderman = this 'modern' spin.
Graphically, blah. Culturally, lame gender/race swap (a la Caped Crusader. What have they done to J Jonah Jameson?
Is Mary Jane that oriental female in the school?
X men 97 was actually not bad especially visually and its portrayal of scott, scott is a badass instead of the og 97 where logan shits on him every chance he got.
X-Men 97 was AWESOME 🤷♀️
@JasonTodd971 Yes X-men97 was quite good, compared to the more obvious BATMAN Caped Crusader on Amazon Prime. It was subtle in the woke/DEI dept., more emphasis on Cyclos who usually get a raw deal in the X- men franchise.
Caped Crusader dialled it up with gender swps, rac swaps and blatant ignoring social/cultural taboos of the 1930s-40s period.
I give it two seasons.
1st Season gets low ratings. Enough to not green light a 2nd Season.
2nd Season is made either way despite the low ratings of the previous one.
Nah you see if the eoke want it out it wil get out i nean look at batwoman regardless of how bad it was they pushed her into everything cw at the time
Everything woke turns to shit
Spider veins, spider veins, everybody hates spider veins...
Every time I see this show all I can think of is a 2003 original Xbox era game called 'XIII'.
Bruh MTV Spider-Man looked better than this
I genuinely think the art style looks good. I really do believe it looks like a modernized comic book from those eras. The REAL problem is the animation, weird DEI decisions, and the backgrounds. Stills from this show look really good in some shots. It’s bright, and colorful. But it’s the lack of interest in the backgrounds and the stiff animations that make it look bad. Not to mention the design choices for certain characters. So while I believe the style itself is phenomenal, the way they design certain characters is just off. Proportions look good, colors are nice. But for an example of bad design, we have Harry Osborn. It doesn’t look anything like the character. Norman Osborn looks pretty good (minus the one thing I’m sure we all know) And that’s not to say that a character being black is BAD, it’s just that this character has been white for literally his entire existence. It’d be like race swapping war machine to be white. Sure his race doesn’t matter much to his character, but it makes it even more senseless to race swap him in the first place. What’s the point? Do they really think black people are absolutely dying to have pre existing characters race swapped? If anything that sounds kind of offensive to THEM right? As if the only way they can get their representation is if us, the all powerful white man change our character FOR them.
It’s sucks because I do believe this show is going to be pretty decent, but it won’t be able to escape the reputation it has (rightfully so) with this DEI stuff. The only people who want this are the people who just wanna say “Ha ha!” to the actual fans. Narcissists.
Honestly, this looks like the 2020 Squirrel Girl comics! 🤢🤮
The artstyle does'nt look like a Spider-man comic. It looks more like something out of a Love and Rockets comic.
Even the James Franco version is less offensive than the DEI crap version
We have so many versions of Spider-Man because of the Spiderverse movies. What’s the point?
I think it might be good, if either a half Spaniard (Harry Osborn) got introduced, into the new MARVEL Comics stories
Or maybe a half Scottish (Harry Osborn) could get introduced, into the new MARVEL Comics stories.
Yeah this show stands out. Stands out being the worst brain rot show thatstanding next to the other worst spiderman show that mtv did something don’t remember, but it was a downer 3d series that was super awful that best forgotten.
You’re right that Steve Ditko will hate this. Heck Stan Lee would also hate this. And this is the many reasons I don’t give a damn cent to marvel and disney. It’s a dead company along with dc and warner.
Stupid shit! What the hell is wrong with disney! Woke shit again.
their modern shit doesnt exist thats why all of it keep failing. they started fucking up marvel when they wanted to pump out muilt movies every years by the time end game came the movies where trash. the so fucked hulk in the avengers i was over it before end game ever came out. best thing marvel has got is the new rivals game
But Spiderverse/What If is a Multiverse,correct?🤔
Everyone is fed up with DEI trash
It's Horrific D.E.I. Mode Dribble' Spiderman looks like a 10-year-old Hockey fanboy in an oversized jersey in a Nikey shoe commercial..!!!!!
Make spiderman look tough again
Nope, we voted against this in november. No more. it wasnt even about the president, it was a stance on the culture! Enough DEI and shoehorning races and swapping characters . And Yeah, Im hispanic and I dont like this crap anymore.
You voted against what again? Culture? Buddy I hope you and yours don't get swept up in a ICE raid.
Why can't they make spetacular spiderman season 3? Scratch that i rather that show be kept safe.
I hate this costume so much.
Harry got blacked
First Spider-Man cartoon I’m skipping.
Bold strategy Cotton lets see if it pays off
BTW, is there anyone under 30 that cares about Spiderman?
Not really, just people that like the Tom Holland movies
Nope
Right here! Was a fan of him and his amazing friends!
Grew up with tobeys movies. Still loved Spider-Man but am worried for his future
Yeah, it's good manga for them.
Feels yet again that they are keeping animation for children. I guess it is a step up from teen titans go. But still lifeless, especially on the new york streets. No joy. I feel nothing but budget checkboxes from this show.
The Asian girl is nico minoru from the runaways series, and she is a lesbian.
You're thinking about katalina the alien girl with the skrull girlfriend. She tried to kiss nico and she said no.
I’m more upset about the hideous animation style
The Spider-verse films look very ugly. I don't care what anyone says
I'm boycotting spiderman until they make him a closet furrier.
Well... He has been with Black Cat before so...