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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Nick Ross and Sue Cook present. This includes the case of the murder of police officer John Speed in Leeds (Was then part of a Crimewatch File). The discovery of a body in woods in Kent in 1978 and the murder of Yvonne Coley in Birmingham.
These days if you phoned the police to report suspicious activity it would take them about two days to respond!
Viv Randolph I know right! Cheers Tory Voters! 😡😡
yes only takes 2 weeks now unless you swear on facebook
Definitely!!
If they don't like you they won't help you at all...
If you were to say, or write, something racist, sexist, or homophobic, they'll be out in minutes, in great numbers as well
Why did all the people in their 30's and 40's seem much older back then.?
People felt like they had to behave a certain way when they got a certain age. There was hardly any manchilds like me back then!!!!!!! Maybe Michael Jackson, and that was it!!!!
Glad someone else noticed that. I'm on wrong side of35 and still get asked for Id once ever so often.
@@davechurchill8711 I'm 38, and feel like if it wasn't for my odd streaks of grey, I'd look in my early twenties.
I think diet is better, people's general health and care is much improved, an example being people not smoking. Just a thought.
I'm in my 30's and i still get asked for ID sometimes and I'm a long term heavy smoker. alot of my family are younger looking even my parents so, young genes and that
This youtube gold, keep up the good work! I have some episodes from 1995 to 2001 to upload but the video tapes are in a friend's loft and I hope to get them back soon!
I look forward to those! I think I saw pretty much every episode of Crimewatch between 1995 and 1997, so it will be great to see them again. Watching the earliest Crimewatch episodes, I'm astonished by the quality of the reconstructions. They're short films, essentially. They weren't like that later on.
Figs Your channel is awesome
futureisgosub nice be good to see some unseen episodes
You are both retro crimewatch gods!
Futureissogosub please upload more eps
Great professionalism by Nick Ross not to laugh at that policeman's wig!
This is like my own personal time machine
I do like how guy who shot the policemen accidentally kills himself with a shotgun during a police chase two years later. Karma!
The somewhat surreal flashback to 1981, of the robbery at Asda, in Leeds, which is portrayed at the start of the programme, is very good, because, in my opinion, it totally captures the fear and the feeling of "this can't be happening" which the poor victims would have no doubt, been thinking, during the robbery.
That gunman in the balaclava and glasses was terrifying.
It was unusual for a Crimewatch reconstruction with its lack of narration. Usually we have Sue or Nick providing additional information and asking "was this you?" etc. It was eerier in its silence.
@@booers79 Yes, i agree with you my friend. xx
@@STEJTHEGREATEST Yes, he was!
I really fancied that woman (the one with the money bag).
Definitely the sort I'd have a crush on.
"Miss Infatuation" I call her. 😉
THEY REALLY KNEW HOW TO CHILL YOU TO THE BONE WITH THESE OLD RECONSTRUCTIONS!!!! UNLIKE THE ONES IN THE LATER YEARS WHICH SOMETIMES FELT MADE UP. ;*(
early ones were far better more of a documentary feel to it, the later ones were very drama like, one big reason why ratings went down IMO.
@@ggagg123 Plus, it really yanked you out of them when you'd see say, a woman walking around in her dark house, and then suddenly Rav Wilding would come walking out of a dark corner to give us some details about what was about to happen!!!!
The way the country was in the 1980s added to the spookiness. The country was very run down, grey and dirty with a lot of derelict buildings and overgrown wasteland. Everything felt very bleak.
Sue Cook. Yum.
Fiona Bruce, yum-yum! 🤵♂️❤️👩🏻🦱
At 6.00 mins..WTF.
Who needs horror movies??!
I quite liked it.
if you want to know what that song is at 32:33 it is Automatic by Pointer Sisters
Should be a minimum of 20 years for any bastard who threatens peoples lives with a weapon in a robbery and forever steals their innocence.
25?
Indeed so too.
Those ‘Micromaps’ are terrible. A drawing would have been better.
The BBC Micro. What a machine.
Yvonne Coley's murder still remains unsolved to this day.
so sad .
The police believe that Yvonne Coley may have been one of the early victims of Alun Kyte, who was convicted of the murder of two sex workers but is suspected of having committed many more.
Probably Alun Kyte.
@simonmitchell60 Yeah, I looked it up and he's still listed as the most likely killer. Those poor girls, growing up and never knowing for sure what had happened to their mum.
29:03 Jim Cornette's dad on the right.
can i nominate Redcard74 for an MBE?
Of course, you can!!
The actress who plays Yvonne Cooley looks like her! Sadly her murder is still unsolved to this day. I feel for her mother and children who still don't know who did it. Balsall Heath was a notorious red light area in Brum during the 80s and it sadly was a case of nobody knows nothing. It's like the murder of sex workers doesn't matter. May she RIP xx
The criminologist Professor David Wilson said that if we really care about stopping murder, we have to understand about how society "stops caring about" or indeed actively resents certain groups and that makes them so much more vulnerable to murder because they're pushed to the edge of society. That includes prostitutes, the elderly and gay men.
The police suspect Alun Kyte of being responsible for her murder, as well as another prostitute's murder as well, but they didn't have enough evidence to charge him with it, and neither would he admit to it either, I hope her children found some peace in their lives, as they're probably in their 40s by now, R.I.P Angel Yvonne Coley.....🙏🙏🙏
I was also just reading recently - the police believe that Yvonne Coley may have been one of the early victims of Alun Kyte, who was convicted of the murder of two sex workers but is suspected of having committed many more murders.
When he says don’t have nightmares, it’s like when someone says don’t think of elephants.
Don’t sneeze if you have a cold.
Nick stopped ending the show with the phrase "Don't have nightmares" at one stage, but it was reinstated at the request of viewers.
The compilation of the previous robberies in black and white in slo-mo with really scary avant garde music in the background makes you understand why they were advised to lighten it up a bit in following years. Utterly chilling.
Shame they changed it.
People were snowflakes in those days.
That and the zooming in on the photofits of suspects. They stopped doing that after the first few episodes of Crimewatch.
Actually, they didn’t ‘lighten it up’. Trance dub music over depictions of people being bludgeoned to death …
Love the cash in transit and bullion robberies could watch them all day.
🤣🤣
I’m surprised a lot of the calls that night weren’t asking where that policeman got his hair from!!
Looks like it was coloured with boot polish!
@@Lushgirl81 that’s what I thought. Shoe polish head!! 🤣🤣
Lego man head!
It reminded me of Homer Simpson posing as Rock Strongo/Lance Uppercut
Haha brylcreem had a lot to answer for 🙈
This episode: pretty much guaranteed to give you nightmares.
Police had commonsense back then.
The killer of Sgt Speed, David Grycewith, died after accidently shooting himself when his getaway vehicle, a hijacked police car was itself rammed by a police van. RIP Sgt John Speed.
What you sow you reap ......
@@treasurehunteruk9718 doubtful
You really believe it was an accident? Them you're a bigger fool then I thought!
Isn’t that known as karma?
He lived by the gun and he died by the gun.@@treasurehunteruk9718
Can anyone explain how they can turn a beacon on remotely on a van?? Never come across that before…
17:00 the hair 🤣🤣🤣🤣💜💜💜💜💜🤣🤣🤣🤣 PETA NOT HAPPY! You see how 22:57 Helen popped one on 🤣
yes lol
The Beast with the expensive trainers on 😂😂 HI-TEC 😂😂😂CHEAP AS FECK 😂😂😂
I said this to my misses 😂
They must of been a bit of money back then for her to say that
Anyone wanna buy a fur coat?
If I missed my monthly dose of crime watch in the 90's 😭😡
Rather expensive hi tek silver shadows .....
They were a laughing stock in ‘84.
The Barbara Pinder murder and Bedgebury murder remain unsolved sadly.
That's when there was a policeman on every corner
Mate, the first reconstruction also sticks in my mind. Such a weird, eerie one and that music
Yes, really scary!!!
4:30 Roy Walsh was the name of an actual IRA bomber who bombed The Old Bailey in 1973, he was caught by the police along with Gerry Kelly at Heathrow airport and sentenced to life. The Brighton Bomber, Patrick Magee, used his name on the hotel registration card to goad the authorities when they eventually went through the list of guests.
The police should have guessed that Roy Walsh was referring to that case.
I hope those that stole the furs were animal rights activists!
Why
Knob
@@jackwatson3944 well what's your imagination told you about the possible reasons as to the "why"??
Do you want to have a go at trying to have a proper guess first as to _why_ that might've been the case???
@@markredmond2014 were they your furs by any chance??
I'm glad if they were.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 no it's alright mate but thanks anyway 👍
Saving money on the reconstructions - can't afford a white tee-shirt for the van driver.
Wasn't born until 1990, but I love these old episodes, shame CW stopped last October, used to watch from early 2000s👍🇬🇧
Hope you didn't get nightmares.
Was it still going on until last October? I didn't know that, I thought it finished a number of years ago.
Andy JS which means you have been missing out however, if uploaded by considerate TH-camrs you can watch.
I was born in 1981 I loved the late 1980s it was fun better than life today.
@@PC-lu3zf then you clearly don't remember the 80s. No Sunday shop's 4 TV channels 2 of which spent most of the day off air,and 50p spends.
29:00 Terry Smith - a very interesting guy, went on to be an author (see his book 'The Art of Armed Robbery') and TV pundit before ending up in prison again following another armed robbery. He just couldn't avoid the buzz of committing these types of crimes and ended up getting caught once more in 2010.
How times have changed call the police nowadays and your still waiting for them to respond
35:19 I nearly choked on my coffee
😂 😂 😂 😂 Funny that.
Open racism (thankfully) is not acceptable anymore
@@misplacedkiwi9498 it is. BLM is open about it.
The forensics at 24:00 mark fascinate me
Thanks so much! Absolute legend!
The Bedgebury Forest murder was featured again sometime in the 1990s - at least I’m fairly certain it was as I didn’t start watching CW until ‘88 and recall an appeal about an unknown murder victim in poor quality garments, with terrible dental hygiene and an ectopic pregnancy, and that’s too much of a coincidence.
Looks like a lorry driver was tried for the murder in 2000, but was unanimously found not guilty by the jury.
Yes, I was about to post that Crimewatch revisited her case - the episode is on TH-cam and I think it may be from 1998 or 1999. Will try and hunt it down. They actually found the dressmaker but she told police that she donated the dress to a charity shop, where it was likely bought by the victim.
Yes you’re right, I believe that episode was in 98 or 99.
Tracked it down, it was the February 1999 episode of Crimewatch, which is on TH-cam.
Dr Peter Vanezis featured here was also on the Jeremy Bamber case.
Feb 1999
m.th-cam.com/video/J7qi_czNhJg/w-d-xo.html
How times and attitudes have changed. The police in Leeds had "help from the underworld " in regards of the shooting of 2 unarmed PC's by David Gricewith. He was never arrested and was only discovered as the shooter after an armed robbery in Stockton-on-Tees when he shot himself with a shotgun after been rammed by a police car.
Yeah true, and never thought he looked anything like the e-fit shown here. Sometimes they're miles off.
Well he didn't actually shoot himself intentionally. The ramming caused the gun to fire into him, which then killed him (as can be seen in the Crimewatch File episode). Poetric justice...
Please don't have nightmares do sleep tight.lol.
Times change. There would be a huge fuss if a theft from a furrier was featured now.
16:00 Great name for a cop.
lol didnt notice that
5:30 Christ, that’s scary.
Thank god gun laws are strict in the UK now.
@@misplacedkiwi9498 so strict of course, that only the people controlling every single aspect of our lives day in and day out, morning, noon and night, from cradle to grave - for money - that they threaten to extort us for in exchange for us not being locked away from being fed up to the back teeth so that they can go about doing things the way _they_ decide [to impose themselves on us] - can continue.
I'm sure you must be elated.
9:39
When people actually helped the police
@anonymous one you're bloody joking aren't you? The police were absolutely notorious back then for being incompetent and often corrupt. I'm taking it you know absolutely nothing about how incompetent they were with the Yorkshire ripper murder?
@anonymous one are you off your medication. 🇬🇧👍🤣😂
Not a fan of the police. They can be unfair and bent at times. But how sad for those two policemens family rest in peace you gave your life’s
Ugh! Fur coats
Call the police in America, they will come, but make sure they don’t shoot you and not the suspect 😁
This was the same year the terminator came back in time
Pretty sure the Bedgebury case is what set off my lifelong obsession with murder victims, crime scenes and general morbidity.
not just me then phew 😂
Rip Sgt Speed
😢💔
Love these old-skool reconstructions. Bizarre lack of commentary on the first one though.
That detective has an epic syrup!
He certainly does. It features heavily in the 1988 File on that case, too! The opening to the Leeds reconstruction is superb - black and white, slow-motion and sinister music. Chilling stuff. And the chase is Sweeney-like.
He model him self on a Lego figure Lol
@@michaellowery1559 lol
@@olegenie1007 The Lego detective ha ha
did they ever find out who the unknown woman murder victim was?
Probs not
No. If you Google Bedgebury Forest Woman there is a Wikipedia article. Someone was tried for the murder in 2000 but acquitted, the woman has never been identified.
Crimewatch was just brilliant back then, firing on all cylinders. Nick and Sue the perfect measured, understated presenters, excellently created reconstructions focusing on small details and then the incident desk also really well done.
I hated the 2008-2015 version, Kirsty Young strutting around the studio, pontificating on every case, having her two pennys worth, graphic frenzied reconstructions, detectives speaking while the camera constantly zooms in and out.....
Why Crimewatch is *actually* to me at this precise moment better off axed to be honest, unless the Beeb *really does* get serious about having this type of monthly/semi-annual etc public information programme again on any of their channels, which is *very* doubtful. I imagine if they do bring this back under their current terms, it will *no doubt* just be that god-damn Rav Wilding whatever his name leaving off were Kirsty Young did, along with everything else you mentioned. 🙄
I could be wrong, but I think that the blonde actress with a speaking role shown alongside the blue van at 33.30 could be Sammi Davis, who played the part of "May" in the 1986 film, "Mona Lisa". Her Birmingham accent is just as distinctive in this Crimewatch clip as it is in "Mona Lisa" and a film from 1991 called "Horseplayer".
No one cares
Episode from the month and year I was born
That copper on the radio sounded like paddy mcguiniess 😂 😂
That copper on the radio sounded like paddy mcguiniess 😂😂
Paddy McGuinness is from Bolton. This is Yorkshire accents.
24:17 - was that red poster an actual photo of the body?
Looks like it is.
Yes
The 86 year old would be 121 now if still alive she cannot be as nobody born in the late 1890s is still alive.
There is a woman in an old folks home near me who was born in 1889.
With all due respect this cannot possibly be true or she would be 131 and by far the oldest person of all time!
Yes still does her own hoovering apparently
@@ajc94 there's no realistic way that you could establish any such thing to the contrary.
What you're saying works on the supposition, that their birth was actually registered with the state to begin with, which of course they're not always.
I certainly wouldn't register my ascendants, nor would I wish for when I go, for mine to register me either.
I never asked for my birth to be registered with "the" state (but somebody chose to deceive my mother (whose death isn't registered either)) when I was born, so why should I consent to the state doing so after I've gone??
Also, who actually has firsthand knowledge of the day that they were born? Do you??
It is technically hearsay to provide one's own date of birth, but a completely normal, everyday practice (despite being completely unlawful).
Please read above explanation.
14:48 that has to be a wig
It's gloss paint
Scott1433 wonder what he thought everyday putting that on ‘oh this looks natural’ ...
It’s Lego hair.
Reminds me a bit of the Cartoons.
Witch Doctor OHHH EEEE OH HAHA TING TANG WALLAWALLABINGBANG
I was shocked all the comments were not about his hair 🤣
I remember r lollipop lady at school was John speeds wife bless him
"She's about 45 foot 4"
Ain't half tall, is she?
Country girl, non-smoker excellent lungs, repairable teeth, gsoh, looking for a cheap-date 👍
With an ectopic pregnancy.
The killer of Sgt Speed should never have got away afterwards.
Why
2:42
Buzz Light-year??!!
35:20 they used the work Paki. Was normal back then anyway. Remember as a family going to Margate and being called pakis.
god somebody must know who that unidentified female is!!!!!
Likely to be trafficked from abroad.
Jesus I was 8 when this was broadcast im now 45 I'm feeling old now 🤣🤣🤣
Same matey
I was 6 and have just been thinking to myself where the hell did the time go 😩😂
I was 6 also. Remember watching it on my Grundig tv.
Who cares. It's so weird when people look at these crime shows and then make it about themselves. 🙄🙄🙄
@@jonathanturbide2232nostalgia is part of the attraction with this
When policemen actually had hair, even if it was false, unlike the shaven or completely bald officers in later CW.
When I watch old episodes of this (or other things) I do a search to see if I can find the people and what they're up to now. 29:15 - John Kendall. Strangely enough looks like a Dr John Kendall of Birmingham Law School. I do wonder if its the same person.
@22.56
Nicole Kidman as I live and breathe. How are ya babes?
The killer of John Speed was David Gricewith
Was he caught and jailed
@@allthekingshorses7178 No. He died in custody
35.19 did she really jus say that lol
🤦
And sleep tight, these crimes are very rare.
Not anymore they're not
Instead of getting into blue movies crimewatch tried to pull off a yellow movie..but poor CW it wasnt to be :' (
That gunman sure doesn't like cops lol shooting them like tin cans on a prize stall
Thank you :)
24:54, proof, that living in the fresh air of the country is healthier than living in the big city!
That geezer's rug is suspicious activity😂
Helen Phelps Blue eyes could kill 🔥
Omg i was like 15 wheres does the time go...used to love watching this was it thurs night or sunday.
Always Thursday night, it was always talk at school the next day.
Did they identify the lady??
The pathologist made a glaring error when he stated that the murdered woman’s teeth showed no sign of nicotine staining. They wouldn’t - nicotine is odourless and colourless … it is the tar in tobacco which causes staining.
Right you are, Ken…
@@shinimicas I am indeed correct. Do you object to accuracy?
Another unsolved murder
Loving these crimewatchs
It really does capture how bleak a lot of the 80s was
It really was. Not playing politics but I don't remember any school/ hospital infrastructure building going until Gordon brown & blier
@@dsd7004 you're absolutely right. Britain was a grim place back then - it really didn't pick up until the Blair government.
The only difference is we have HD bleakness in the 2020s
Racist language used in the Yvonne Cooley reconstruction too.
The 80s were pretty grim for the most part
Yes it was normal to be called a paki..I had it all the time.
@@gujh03 doesn't make it right, or acceptable though, does it, racism is racism, period....
@@joshuaedwards4536 did I say it was acceptable ? This was the norm. I grew up with this. The same people still think the same way. Only difference is there are mobile phones now and more can be done legally so people are careful not to say it.
@@gujh03 I never said you said it was acceptable anywhere in what I wrote, I'm saying it was unacceptable, in the very same way I was subjected to blatant casually spoken racism in my early years as a child in school back then, and of course it still goes on today, just nowhere near as openly spoken as back then
The first reconstruction was quite hard to follow as it had no narration!
It is like a very poor first take of a scene from The Sweeney. I was expecting to see Thaw and Waterman appear at any moment to do their infamous Steve Cram stuff!
Silver shadows
RIP Yvonne Coley .. so tragic...
:( ♡
Case still not solved :-(
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Most of these prostitute murders aren’t solved unfortunately. 😢. The only solved one I can think of is Julie Dart. It’s all very sad.
@@Lushgirl81 Yes Viv it's so sad 😢 also not forgetting Lynette White RIP♡ and the case of the Cardiff 5 which led to the biggest police corruption case in UK history. 😞😠
Trish G yes, I read about that. Disgraceful.
hey doctor i need my daily crimewatch dose today pleaase i missed my dose yesterday i feel like im loosing my mind I NEED MY MEDICINE PLZZ
Shropshire....Leeds...Inverness..every single episode...
When Crimewatch first started, only a handful of police forces in the UK took part, as they were skeptical as to whether or not it would work
Was the identity of the woman ever ascertained?
I came here from her Wikipedia page, Bedgebury Forest Woman. Sadly she is still unidentified
I didn’t realise 1981 life looked like you lived in an instagram filter
Much of the 80s was absolutely grim. Really grey, oppressive, lots of poverty and unpleasant.
@@zeddekaunless you wore a striped shirt, bright red braces, carried a Filofax and a house brick telephone and said ‘Yah’ rather a lot …
Helen Phelps is Beautiful . And lovely voice
Unshaved back in those days too
Yes, but … Fiona Bruce, eh? 🤵♂️❤️👩🏻🦱
6:18 Scariest gunman ever. ;*(
The woman in Kent was recently ID'd, no further details have been released.
The Bedgebury forest one? I was thinking that with advances in forensics they could find out a lot more about her but it depends what samples they kept. They could find out where she spent her childhood by bone samples showing deposits from the water she drank. As she was pregnant the foetus had a father so that's another set of DNA. So why won't they release details.
Bring back the birch
Who … Edna?