I am so afriad of what will be the outcome of this, this will be used for any arguments in the future. It can be used for any jurisprudence in any court. Equality for all!
@@rainb5987 Yeah thats a good principle but you can't apply that to the church and a nation who upholds the sanctity of marriage and objectivity of the scriptures. We believe in the existence of God and His guiding principles. So ofcourse dun pa din kami sa irestrict kasi bakit babaguhin ang marriage na pagmamayari ng relihiyon? Kung meron kayong boses, meron din kami. Kung pakiramdam niyo natatapakan rights niyo aba kami din. Pwede naman siguro kayo magcreate ng bagong label jan sa kasal wag na lang galawin yung amin. So to ask us to accommodate eh bakit hindi kayo ang mag accommodate samin?
@@FeelingerongTheologian First of all, there is no need for you to be accommodated when you are already legally recognized. Accommodation is only applicable for those who are not yet recognized. Balanced interests and diversity exist. The existence of gays doesn't mean straight people will die. Coexistence and civility is a thing. Second of all, no one is forcing the Church. In fact, Article 6 of the Family Code provided, "No prescribed form or religious rite for the solemnization of the marriage is required." That's why CIVIL MARRIAGE is a thing where the solemnizing officer can be the mayor or any other person other than church personnel. Third of all, it is unfair that an opposite-sex couple has the OPTION to avail the benefits of CIVIL MARRIAGE while a gay couple can't even though they are committed partners. Separation of church and state is also a thing. Fourth of all, I know at least 2 churches here in the Philippines that bless homosexual union/marriage - The LGBTS Church and Metropolitan Community Church (MCC). Why can't they avail the benefits of legal marriage using religious freedom? Fifth of all, there is a separate law for Muslim and Indigenous People to allow them to marry many women (polygamy under Muslim Code of the Philippines and Indigenous People Act). If these minorities are okay to be accommodated, then LGBT too should be accommodated.
No need for Same sex marriage. Narinig niyo naman na mas makakabuti pa nga kapag hindi na sila mag pakasal dahil mas maganda ang contract na pwede nilang gawin. Furthermore, makakagulo lang din sa kasalukuyang mga batas.
The problem is they don't have the option. Opposite sex couples can marry or choose to have another set-up while a same-sex couple cannot avail the benefits of marriage.
@@rainb5987 Because marriage is not for them. It is for a man and a woman. Why are they redefining it? Its exclusive for religion. What they could do is fight it in court or create their own religion. Some suggested that the state should completely abandon legalizing all kinds of marriages. Just stay neutral.
Let me ask you this, Do you agree that the universe exhibits a remarkable design, complexity ,and order that suggests there is a intelligent designer? Agree or disagree?
Ok i am just here for people who want to know about the trip of the same sex marriage in philippines, lgbtq is controversial especially since ph is catholic but in the same time ph culture is liberal so a liberal who still listens to the church, ideologically crap but it is possible. Now in Congress Legislative, the civil union law is still in the debate that is why lgbtq community asked the Judiciary’s help. The Supreme Court denied the petition therefore it is rejected. Up to now it hasn’t went up to the Executive Branch
Separate immoral opinion from moral convection, do not drug morality to commit immorality, as we have priest and pastors who are of different opinion and convection as a servant. Like Pastor with high moral convection to violate their moral conviction is also a violation of individual rights. it should not fall into a bullying for them against the law.
Marriage is a godly institution. And nowhere can you find in the Family Code of the Philippines about partnership of the same-sex... the petitioner of pro same-sex marriage are no longer using jurisprudence, its all about clamor and bandwagon! Marriage in a laments term that this is a UNION BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN! back to basic your honor with all due respect to the petitioners.
Mag hnosdili layo Basahin mo ang Nilalaman ng holy book ! SODOM AND GOMORRAH ..Justices please study the Bible ..while studying The cases or argument of this matter.
The state does not and should not use any religious book as its basis. It's job is to cater everyone regardless of religion. Catholic. Christian. Iglesia ni Cristo. Muslim. Jew. etc....
papano ung mga taong di holy bible ang basehan ng faith..How can u reconcile that? Ang moral value ngayon nag dedepende sa standard ng society. Un ang basehan. Yun ang mga nararamdaman ng LGBT nagmamahalan sila sino nman tayo para pumigil. And as far as I know ung dyos na sinasabi nyo ay JUST nman so di nman sila i judge ng ganun ganun n lang dahil member sila ng LGBT.
how can circumstances are different now if we still a human since in ancient times?..... -- gaya ng pautang na may interest...noong ancient times eh IMPYERNO ka at hayup ang tingin sa mga taong nagpapainterest...Eh ano ngayon ang mga financial institution dba may certain rate na ng interest na legally acceptable. Sabi noon ng simbahan at condemed ang mga scientist ksi sabi ng mga scientist ang sun ang center ng solar system condemed sila ng simbahan ngayon ano ang alam natin dba ang sun ang center ng solar syste, so tama circumstances changes through time and even the standard of morality.
I am so afriad of what will be the outcome of this, this will be used for any arguments in the future. It can be used for any jurisprudence in any court. Equality for all!
Afraid2 ka jan. Mali kasi utak nyo. Sa congress kayo lumaban hindi s sc. Anong mali ng sc? Ini-educate lang kau. Shattered world effect hahha.
@@bisacool7339 It can be challenged thru SC though. The religious people once used SC as a battleground to challenge the RH Law. Why not gays?
Equal Rights to all! Dont shove your beliefs down to
everyone's throat. Also, family exists as long as there is LOVE.. regardless of gender.
Are you trying to shove us that belief or you are just voicing an opinion?
@@FeelingerongTheologian Accommodation is better than restriction. You cannot tell other people not to eat meat because you're on a diet.
@@rainb5987 Yeah thats a good principle but you can't apply that to the church and a nation who upholds the sanctity of marriage and objectivity of the scriptures. We believe in the existence of God and His guiding principles.
So ofcourse dun pa din kami sa irestrict kasi bakit babaguhin ang marriage na pagmamayari ng relihiyon?
Kung meron kayong boses, meron din kami. Kung pakiramdam niyo natatapakan rights niyo aba kami din.
Pwede naman siguro kayo magcreate ng bagong label jan sa kasal wag na lang galawin yung amin.
So to ask us to accommodate eh bakit hindi kayo ang mag accommodate samin?
@@FeelingerongTheologian
First of all, there is no need for you to be accommodated when you are already legally recognized. Accommodation is only applicable for those who are not yet recognized. Balanced interests and diversity exist. The existence of gays doesn't mean straight people will die. Coexistence and civility is a thing.
Second of all, no one is forcing the Church. In fact, Article 6 of the Family Code provided, "No prescribed form or religious rite for the solemnization of the marriage is required." That's why CIVIL MARRIAGE is a thing where the solemnizing officer can be the mayor or any other person other than church personnel.
Third of all, it is unfair that an opposite-sex couple has the OPTION to avail the benefits of CIVIL MARRIAGE while a gay couple can't even though they are committed partners. Separation of church and state is also a thing.
Fourth of all, I know at least 2 churches here in the Philippines that bless homosexual union/marriage - The LGBTS Church and Metropolitan Community Church (MCC). Why can't they avail the benefits of legal marriage using religious freedom?
Fifth of all, there is a separate law for Muslim and Indigenous People to allow them to marry many women (polygamy under Muslim Code of the Philippines and Indigenous People Act). If these minorities are okay to be accommodated, then LGBT too should be accommodated.
A BIG SHOUT OUT YOUR HONOR! SO CLEVER AND FAIR
We need equality
No need for Same sex marriage. Narinig niyo naman na mas makakabuti pa nga kapag hindi na sila mag pakasal dahil mas maganda ang contract na pwede nilang gawin. Furthermore, makakagulo lang din sa kasalukuyang mga batas.
The problem is they don't have the option. Opposite sex couples can marry or choose to have another set-up while a same-sex couple cannot avail the benefits of marriage.
@@rainb5987 Because marriage is not for them. It is for a man and a woman. Why are they redefining it? Its exclusive for religion. What they could do is fight it in court or create their own religion. Some suggested that the state should completely abandon legalizing all kinds of marriages. Just stay neutral.
@@FeelingerongTheologian Separation of Church and State is a thing. Religion cannot monopolize the term. This is democracy, not theocracy
Let me ask you this,
Do you agree that the universe exhibits a remarkable design, complexity ,and order that suggests there is a intelligent designer?
Agree or disagree?
@@FeelingerongTheologian Are you a pantheist?
But your Honor, I wanna own the distinction of being called an “ASAWA”. I don’t just wanna be called a “PARTNER”.
I love justice Leonen
Ano ba ang nangyayari sa mundo
Ok i am just here for people who want to know about the trip of the same sex marriage in philippines, lgbtq is controversial especially since ph is catholic but in the same time ph culture is liberal so a liberal who still listens to the church, ideologically crap but it is possible. Now in Congress Legislative, the civil union law is still in the debate that is why lgbtq community asked the Judiciary’s help. The Supreme Court denied the petition therefore it is rejected. Up to now it hasn’t went up to the Executive Branch
The SC rejected the petition procedurally. The same ruling also states that it is open to another petition challenging Family Code.
good thinking
No to same sex marriage !
Separate immoral opinion from moral convection, do not drug morality to commit immorality, as we have priest and pastors who are of different opinion and convection as a servant. Like Pastor with high moral convection to violate their moral conviction is also a violation of individual rights. it should not fall into a bullying for them against the law.
"The morality in law is PUBLIC and NECESSARILY SECULAR, not religious." - Ang Ladlad LGBT v. COMELEC
Marriage is a godly institution. And nowhere can you find in the Family Code of the Philippines about partnership of the same-sex... the petitioner of pro same-sex marriage are no longer using jurisprudence, its all about clamor and bandwagon! Marriage in a laments term that this is a UNION BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN! back to basic your honor with all due respect to the petitioners.
SAME SEX MARRIAGE IS JUST ANNOYING.
Like you
Mag hnosdili layo Basahin mo ang Nilalaman ng holy book ! SODOM AND GOMORRAH ..Justices please study the Bible ..while studying The cases or argument of this matter.
Olive Monti Circumstances are different now, brother
The state does not and should not use any religious book as its basis. It's job is to cater everyone regardless of religion. Catholic. Christian. Iglesia ni Cristo. Muslim. Jew. etc....
agree
papano ung mga taong di holy bible ang basehan ng faith..How can u reconcile that? Ang moral value ngayon nag dedepende sa standard ng society. Un ang basehan. Yun ang mga nararamdaman ng LGBT nagmamahalan sila sino nman tayo para pumigil. And as far as I know ung dyos na sinasabi nyo ay JUST nman so di nman sila i judge ng ganun ganun n lang dahil member sila ng LGBT.
how can circumstances are different now if we still a human since in ancient times?..... -- gaya ng pautang na may interest...noong ancient times eh IMPYERNO ka at hayup ang tingin sa mga taong nagpapainterest...Eh ano ngayon ang mga financial institution dba may certain rate na ng interest na legally acceptable.
Sabi noon ng simbahan at condemed ang mga scientist ksi sabi ng mga scientist ang sun ang center ng solar system condemed sila ng simbahan ngayon ano ang alam natin dba ang sun ang center ng solar syste, so tama circumstances changes through time and even the standard of morality.