I'm not a father. But as a human, I think if anyone is not ready to be a mom or dad, then don't let the child born, because it is not fair to a new life.
@@miriamtiuseco2nd well, sometimes abortion is the better choice than giving birth to the baby. there is a lot of factors involved. Financial concern is 1 thing but sometimes, there r health factors 2 consider also.
I am with you on this. Parents have the right to make decision as long as local law allows it and no danger to the mother. I guess it all depends on how a person was raised or educated. What Zhengshuang did wrong was the way she treated her 2 children after their births. Those children are not some things that she can just throw away. She is a cold person from a cold family. If she can't accept them, she can make good arrangement with her husband so the children can have a normal life, which is good for the children and her. NOT that I support her crazy behavior but I do think that is the right thing to do for the children. I just feel so sorry for those children. Zhengshuang should be held account for abandoning them.
It's because of the guy how suggested on having kids and then cheated on Zheng shuang. She didn't even gave birth to the kids, they had a surrogate mother for this..
I think surrogacy is not completely a bad thing. For some infertile parents, surrogacy helps them to fulfill their wishes of having children. But the most important thing is that the parents need to take up the responsibility of taking care of the children. Every life is precious 💓🧡
The issue regarding Zheng, Shuang is no longer a private matter or a topic of celebrity gossip. Since the moment when her parents and her wanted to abandon the two newborns, the entire issue has become a serious social issue. I think the focus is not only on surrogacy, but the fact that she has tried to abandon the babies and planned to leave them in the States. I do hope the situation changes somehow, and the two children are in good care.
Different countries have different cultures and traditions, so people should respect different rule of law based on their national cultures. Just a Be good human being. That’s matters most.
I’m honestly just happy the father was serious about keeping them and staying with them. I hope the situation gets resolved and he gets to take them back to China. If she doesn’t want them/contact with them, I’m sure they can have that arranged.
she didn't abandon her children, the guy just wants money from her and made up the false story and irritated the girl to speak and then he intentionally recorded their conversation illegally even since he begun to dating her! this is totally a typical scammer for money case , and the judge in Shanghai already ordered him to return 20 million back to the girl which she loaned the money to her boyfriend.
It’s true. I feel so sad for the two young children, too. They are innocent. Hopefully she can sigh the file and let kids come back to China. As Zhang, the father wants to raise them.
“You get what you get”. When someone decides to keep their body shape or keep their life like 18 years old for ever, it is fine. They might either sacrifice their eating habit or pay their effort to exercise. They can also sacrifice their rights of having children. But they don’t have rights to make other poor people to sacrifice for them.
Finally found a clear-headed! In fact, the whole incident, the problem is not "surrogacy", but as parents, whether they have abandoned behavior! "Surrogacy" is actually no problem, but abandonment, it involves legal responsibility.
Just a bit of some questions on my mind... How come they have that kind of recording for a delicate thing if it is not meant for blackmailing. As what they say it is a 6 hour length conversation but only a few minutes was released. Just my opinion isn't a bit fishy? I also don't like how ZS say those words about those young children. But did she really meant it that way. Just giving some benefit of the doubt since we know how cruel our world right now with those money minded people...
Actually that's a way to protect yourself.Recently there was a recording of a 4-yrs-ago conversation released by an actress which is now considered CLASSIC.Most people compliment and say good job.
You have reached the point. In fact, netizens discovered that Zheng Shuang’s ex-boyfriend Zhang Heng is gay, or bisexual. The reason why Zheng Shuang’s first thought was abortion was because she found out that Zhang Heng had cheated on multiple times and watched his mobile phone. She saw some sex tape that Zhang Heng recorded. And he also took the sex tape of he and zhengshuang , we all know what it means to a female actress. Later evidence showed that since Zhang Heng and Zheng Shuang confirmed their relationship, he had been secretly recording the private conversation Zheng Shuang and her family, and pictured Zheng Shuang's work contract. There is a gang behind Zhang Heng , the support of the media and professional public relations. They plan to use children and other secrets as tools to blackmail Zheng Shuang for a long time-because she is a high-income female star, but Zheng Shuang refused, so they chose To ruin her.
She has a freedom of right what she has to do. That her own business and the people don't have the right to judge her decision. As long as she didn't harm the people. Remember, Freedom of speech. Freedom of human Right.
Of course she have the right if the surrogate mother agrees. This is all about their choice whether or not to let these children are allowed to come outside this world because these are made up by theirs. Sometimes,people wish they didn't be born. What is the point of giving birth when she is not ready to raise these children? To let suffer all mental trauma caused by their psychological illed mother?
With Zheng Shuang's reputation, I wouldn't even trusted her with a puppy. But, we also don't know the whole story. Just hope they can both do the right things for the good of the little lives they created.
@@gameone5522 i saw a video about that but since i dont know Chinese can't believe everything people translate they may be exaggerated or whatever the case
It broke my heart to hear this story. I really like her. I adored her in Love 020. Surrogacy should not be allowed. That is just how I feel. It is too easily abused and too many variables. Why, why, why would you start with 2???
Mayb she'll hope for forgiveness n hope everyone will forgive her Hmmm... she'll hope for forgiveness for sure for the money I don't think she's worth forgiving at all
if she wants people to forgive her, she has to act on it! She has to take up the responsibility as a mother! But she did NOTHING, but keep asking for forgiveness, she should ask her biological children for forgiveness, not the general public.
@@eveleung8855 true and her immediate response after the news got viral on weibo was to bad mouth her ex or talk abt financial issue I really don't think that she cares abt her children at all
Don't agree with you on "get a puppy first" Not even a puppy if you don't fully commit!!! Having a puppy requires commitment and responsibility as well.
It reveals the moral problems of the Chinese people today. How ridiculous in the discussion among the families - four parents and Zheng Shang herself - they focused on anything else but not the kids! Thanks Mike for bringing up this topic in your talk.
What Zheng did is really awful!!! Her action reminds me of the TH-camr Myka Stauffer, she treated her Chinese adopted son badly and rehomed him in the end. I do not know why these people can still be influencers? I feel so sad for their kids!
Priority is the kids, they are chinese since both the parents are from China. First thing is that the mother should give her cooperation in bringing the kids back to China, then settle whatever issues she has with the kids` father..from what has been heard and seen, the kids father is willing to keep the kids!
大家对surrogacy有什么意见？
关你啥事？没本事在美国挣钱才跑来中国，现在又靠着中国来蹭网络流量？
代孕也算是某种程度上的器官贩卖
surrage pregnancy just put 5 eggs in it hope some survive.
我覺得代孕應該嚴格管轄只給一些人沒辦法生育的人去完成擁有自己小孩的夢想。因為他們不容易有小孩，所以會很珍惜這份愛。
不要像現在這様只要有金錢就可以買，可以不要。這太不道德。
這是生命，不是商業交易。
@@xihangyang I don't like the thought of that either, but you are right.
I'm not a father. But as a human, I think if anyone is not ready to be a mom or dad, then don't let the child born, because it is not fair to a new life.
Dont conceive but if conceived, dont abort
@@miriamtiuseco2nd Exactly this.
@@miriamtiuseco2nd well, sometimes abortion is the better choice than giving birth to the baby. there is a lot of factors involved.
Financial concern is 1 thing but sometimes, there r health factors 2 consider also.
I am with you on this. Parents have the right to make decision as long as local law allows it and no danger to the mother.
I guess it all depends on how a person was raised or educated.
What Zhengshuang did wrong was the way she treated her 2 children after their births. Those children are not some things that she can just throw away. She is a cold person from a cold family. If she can't accept them, she can make good arrangement with her husband so the children can have a normal life, which is good for the children and her. NOT that I support her crazy behavior but I do think that is the right thing to do for the children.
I just feel so sorry for those children. Zhengshuang should be held account for abandoning them.
It's because of the guy how suggested on having kids and then cheated on Zheng shuang. She didn't even gave birth to the kids, they had a surrogate mother for this..
I think surrogacy is not completely a bad thing. For some infertile parents, surrogacy helps them to fulfill their wishes of having children. But the most important thing is that the parents need to take up the responsibility of taking care of the children. Every life is precious 💓🧡
Alm💜
就算是代孕出来的孩子 作为父母必须也要对孩子负责 麦克老师说得很有道理
没有弃养，20年8月份就通过中美两国律师争取抚养权了。
这就不对，那些带母负责吗？郑爽花了170万跑到美国播种，亏大了
@@royalsuidynasty6471 代母只是为了争钱吧，之前一定有合约的，精卵都不是代母的 一定没有完全的感情吧？反正，除非真的生不出来，还是自己生好, 尽管精卵是自己的，让人代孕 感情还是隔了一层 不如自己生的亲。
@@YK-dz3xd 那就送人了，渣男的孩子以后没准更渣……
@@fyt-fashiontrends 没弃养为啥不配合让孩子回国呀？美国疫情那么严重！
she isn't qualified to be a mother, even her parents are petty greedy, they are just a horrible family!
本来不认识她 通过这次事件 认识了她以及她的脑残粉 。。。她的丑事都上了日本新闻头条了 全球吃瓜中。。。 国内真的要提高做艺人的标准了 。。。
你这句话有点不妥，这个不是国内的问题，是这个社会出现的问题
--人家代孕关你啥事，而且没有任何证据表示她弃养。就凭着一方就断定一件事？你也挺恶心的
@Meng Zhao 呦，我以为正爽邪教粉只存在于微博呢，原来这里还有一个呢。没有任何证据？你怕是选择性记忆了……锤的死死的也就你们把她抠出来继续无脑尬吹了。
郑爽其实一直都有争议。我也是因此事去翻阅了他的旧新闻，发现郑爽过去的种种作为其实一直被诟病，尤其是其不敬业、耍大牌等负面新闻。但是郑爽的粉丝一直都在帮他洗白，洗人设，不过现在大众才发现那个“直爽”人设就是假的。
@@mengzhao6 笑死人了！郑爽他爸都发声明道歉了，拜托去搜下新闻。不理性的粉丝完全就是慢性毒药，其实就是害人、间接杀人。一直以来郑爽的黑料、争议那么多，如果当初粉丝们真心去劝一下，去斥责一下他做的不对的地方，或许今天他也不会搞出这么大的丑闻。
The issue regarding Zheng, Shuang is no longer a private matter or a topic of celebrity gossip. Since the moment when her parents and her wanted to abandon the two newborns, the entire issue has become a serious social issue. I think the focus is not only on surrogacy, but the fact that she has tried to abandon the babies and planned to leave them in the States. I do hope the situation changes somehow, and the two children are in good care.
老師很善良！ 價值觀正確！ 客觀！ 如果大部分的人有老師的心腸 世界會和平些
郑爽她也经常把自己养的小狗送人，送了好几次了，一样的方法去处理孩子…我现在是一个怀2胎中的妈妈，完全无法想象郑爽和她的父母，怎么那么没有人性，一错再错，简直可以下地狱。
很糟糕的人，我認識也很多這種可愛抓來養，厭了就丟，平時這種人就是很自私虛榮欺善怕惡那種。從對動物的態度，可看出心是不是黑的，他前夫被坑是完全可能的。
我也正在早孕期间 太难相信世上还有这等恶人了 我过去四年里换了三个国家 每次都花大价钱和时间进口自己的猫 有的人比宠物重要100倍的亲儿女 说不要就不要了？
你可以听一听郑爽她爹在百度里的视频发言。一句话，自私自利无人性的一家人，事到如今，还不自省。执拗于如何让对方更难受！ 比如强调这次无论如何拿到两个孩子的抚养权。考虑过父母亲人双方对孩子的亲情与爱了吗？
@@ligangt85 听了，气死了😡真的是无药可救的一家人。希望他们永不翻身，真的给中国丢人，国外的新闻都报了。
倆個小孩都不是在她的肚裡那有什麼感覺
感謝麥克老師的解説。人間事很複雜，我讓自己簡單就是。祝福你全家幸福美滿。
谢谢迈克老师谈这件事（也让人学到相关英语表达）🙏
作为两个孩子的妈妈，我也是同样的心情，祝愿那两个孩子能在爱意中成长。
麦克老师…
我也是2个宝宝的妈妈…
觉得她这次真疯过了…
毁了自己的人生.还想毁了孩子的人生.💔
也对代孕者极其不尊重，真拿人当工具了，说堕胎就堕胎？真让人不耻
算了吧 鄭爽這種人 就算把孩子帶回家 你能想像她能忍耐孩子的哭鬧各種需求？她這種人肯定只會有兩個方式對嬰兒 1暴力2冷暴力
@@tinazhao1286 很多找代孕的是没办法生孩子，代孕者拿到高额回报，两厢情愿，为什么是剥削？我看了一些采访，代孕者不认为自己被剥削，是自愿，而且帮别人实现了伟大的养育宝宝的梦想，难道不是一件很有意义的事吗？
一直在吸毒吧。
@@cuibin1636 it makes sense
你讲得对，你是好爸爸，好男人。郑爽一家人不是人是魔鬼，人不会那么惨忍可恶。
@@nameno480 ，no need to side her, if u fall for her then u will get what that man get. Maybe more worse than him. Not believe than go to get her.
@@nameno480 So you are also planning abandoning your kids for some reason in the future, eh?
@@nameno480 What do you know about kids or psychology
好爸爸人设立得可真好，希望有一天你爸爸突然对外宣布你是他的私生子，还是和小三生的，看你怎么整。
@@nameno480 Now your English is getting weird. Whatever man. Have a good life~ さようなら
麦克老师三观很正，说得非常好👍
麦克在疫情又是怎么从美国来中国呢??
其实孩子不要跟郑爽家有瓜葛最好。郑爽就是她那个畸形父母养出来的怪胎，我甚至都怀疑郑爽是DID。衷心希望孩子们有好的归属，健康(physically and mentally)长大。
What’s DID?
感觉郑爽和他男友思想很简单幼稚，爱的时候如胶似漆那就要个孩子吧，不爱的时候分手了孩子就丢了吧，反正还有冻卵，以后要还可以再有… 🙄wtf？！ 所以意思就是以后夫妻如果不幸离婚了那么孩子看是要丢掉还是给人养做善事，是这个意思吗？
麦克老师您好！
她不该要小孩，更不该选择放弃，由始至终都是一条错路。真可怜小孩子，还是两个。
她自己都还需要她父母的照顾。这个在溺爱中都还没长大的孩子，如何去照顾自己的孩子? 当初的决定也许是一时的冲动。如今她觉得很后悔她的这个决定。可惜已经来不及挽回了。孩子既然已经出来了。就得面对现实。
True
跟你有毛关系》？ 你自己是不管好了？ 上网逼逼别人 还不是之前你就烦她 ？现在你就找机会了 否则 别人弃养 代孕 跟你有毛线关系 社会上那么多垃圾 肮脏的事情我没看你出来 说也没看你管啊 你去管啊？
@@jojo51area 都这时候了，还站在郑爽一边，那都是真爱啊。如果你妈也是郑爽粉丝，当你估计是不是就把你打掉啦。
@@nicorobin7606 那叫你們的粉絲放過張Xiang啊，人家連牛肉麵都沒有得吃
對, 一對情侶感情生變了, 一家人就說要墮胎、棄嬰、送人......還說受精卵沒用完, 要是感情好了可以再要......這是什麼惡魔
是呀，如果每對父母因為離婚或分開就把孩子棄養，這會造成大量無辜的兒童們痛苦悲慘的生活在這個世界！
@@5203344WXT 所以孩子沒出來之前，先將其扼殺，免得來到世界上遭罪
不是感情变，还是没变的问题。问题的本质在于郑爽本人就还不成熟。看以往她在综艺节目里的表现，就相当的不稳定。这主要是她的母亲对她的教育出了很严重的问题。才导致今天的这个结局。
@@zhimanvilleneuve3954 賺大把錢的時候倒是很成熟，呸
去医院看看吧，堕胎的千千万万，意外怀孕，计划外怀孕就流掉，随便得很，没必要骂郑。
Different countries have different cultures and traditions, so people should respect different rule of law based on their national cultures. Just a Be good human being. That’s matters most.
最让人气愤的点是，作为一个成年人，没有对自己的行为负责。既然选择了要代孕生子，就要做好出现任何情况都要抚养孩子长大的准备。这是生命，需要对生命负责。不是简单的对方出轨对方有错，自己生活压力大 这么愚蠢的理由就可以放弃的。
孩子本来就是属于男方的啊
@@苏达-o7r 跟男不男方没关系 她要弃养就是她自己的问题。 不代表男方养孩子就要表扬，因为他只是做了他应该做的
@@tutulin4979 她没问题，现在的制度生育权和婚姻是捆绑的，结婚是她赠送女性生育权给男方，责任人是男方，所以养育义务也是男方，郑爽不是妈妈
she just treat the babies like tissue paper!!!Just dump them if she doesnt need them anymore!!!!BLASTlist herrr!!!
@@ryanw2945 No, she's challenging the oppression of the marriage system, and she's actually helping women
郑爽的新闻都在德国上了头条，可想而知这是多么严重的事情，让很多人刷新三观。
不光是德国，好多国家都在讨论这个事
新加坡也是头条
又醜出新高度了！
墨西哥新闻没看到有
哇，走向國際紅遍全球了
I’m honestly just happy the father was serious about keeping them and staying with them. I hope the situation gets resolved and he gets to take them back to China. If she doesn’t want them/contact with them, I’m sure they can have that arranged.
很中肯的分析，希望事情還有回転餘地！謝謝麥克老師。
Mike老师三观好正，也是好爸爸!赞👍🏻
感谢麦克老师，作为局外人给了大家一个正确观念，深爱家人的人才会懂的道理，你说呢♞
题外话，喜欢郑爽说英语，没包袱，用了所有她能用的去表达，敢说，敢去交流。这点很好。
郑爽父母说岀去的话，还能收回去吗？他爸还在狡辩，没得救了，开了坏头，必须受法
郑爽就是被他爸爸惯坏的
我常常看到明明是郑爽做错事但他爸却替他“打抱不平”而不是告诉郑爽那是错的
这样被“宠”出来的孩子简直没救了
@@ginny5185 说得没错
这次事件 她以及她的脑残粉疯啦， 以男友出轨的借口 不要孩子，这还是人做的事情嘛 ，真的不知道用什么词去形容她，这种人的素质孩子跟她也好不了
而且聽她一家人的錄音, 怎麼會像男方出軌. 女的和家人的口吻全程和和氣氣, 要是男的出軌, 女的還會說是自己迫他放棄孩子嗎. 一家人又蠢又壞
以郑爽他们那一家性格，男友真要出轨了，早就闹翻了，还会等到现在。
@@刘振东-d6i 很明显就是两方都互相出轨呗毕竟娱乐圈的
绝对不能开放代孕，涉及伦理道德和买卖。除非是极端情况有医学证明女方无法生育或怀胎风险极大。
@@geniussuper209 兄台我哪1点扯到民族情绪了？我只是说我的个人看法，和国家民族种族都没1点关系，还有我哪一句话说了她在美国代孕犯法？另外你觉得美国人的东西都是真理吗？只要不犯法都是对的？为什么欧洲那么多国家禁止代孕，你真的去仔细了解过吗？我国立法禁止代孕也是明智的。
@@geniussuper209 你太激進了…大家心平氣和的討論吧～
@@hesha7798 我個人不反對代孕，但是，若是讓我選擇，我會選擇領養孩子，因為有太多無辜的孩子渴望一個溫暖的家，渴望擁有疼愛他的爸爸媽媽…
去合法的孤兒院，找一個跟自己有緣的孩子…我想，這也是一個很美好的開始。
@@geniussuper209 彩礼居然和代孕能扯到一块。。你确实有水平。
你和国人讲道德伦理，现在的人有吗？
本来这种事情没什么好说的，但她对宝贵的生命无视的态度，令人不齿，想要就要，想打掉就随随便便说要打掉，这是一个正常人该做的事吗？肆意妄为，人渣一枚！说实话，真的很懒得去评论她，应该用“它”。
不是它生的 所以不想要呗
Right
没有真正意义上体会怀孕的过程，又因为疫情连孩子面也没见过，其实很难有特殊感情，话说出来都是伤，但是谁叫她是艺人，国内妈妈自己怀孕期间，如果感情一言不合打掉孩子的也有，医院照样引产足月的婴儿，其实很多小媒体都在消费郑爽，不过无可厚非，做明星的附加。男方也不要脸，怀孕期间的录音其实心机重，忽悠国内不懂的人，为了争夺天价抚养费也是拼了，小孩很无辜，两个不成熟的父母。
哈哈😄，好正义！你是中国大陆生人吗？你到了生育年龄了吗？你去做个调查，你身边的育龄妇女，或你有几个没有或被强制或主动做过人流手术？从亲近的人开始，第一个调查的可以是你的妈妈或姨妈或姑姑。如果她们有过人流行为，那你该不该用“它”去称呼她们呢？
在国内，除了信仰和爸妈，可有谁教人应当珍愛生命？
其实不是说代孕了2个孩子的事无法接受（如果在美国代孕是合法的，人们是接受的）事情让人在情感上难以接受的是，两个人的决定似乎没有经过慎重的考虑，两人感情破裂分手之后，并没有用妥善的办法来处理；尤其是对待孩子的态度上，郑爽显得漠然，并没有一丝的怜悯之心。孩子的父亲张恒也选择了一种近乎与撕裂的方式曝光这件事。
zh被zs粉丝网暴了一年，后才选择曝光这件事的。
張恆也是走頭無路了. 不曝光就被女方按在地上打. 他護照也不能一直延期, 始終要帶孩子們回國. 只可以說女方是自作自受.
@@gurakko_zetta25 对
"合法"不代表人們都接受只代表"當權者"容許或支持這著行為! 且美國不是每個州都能合法代孕。代孕和同性亂婚一樣在全世界都是爭議很大、很多人反對的事。
@@jiazhenzhao6957 对。已经在美国快一年了。想想，一个年轻的男人带着两个尚未成年的幼儿，加 之目前美国的疫情是那么的糟糕，那是郑爽采取不想抚养的态度，所以男方估计也是走投无路了，才只有将事情公开的，这个事件的整个要谴责的应该是郑爽，而不是张恒，好吗。
I have no issue with surrogacy as long as the child, once born, is well taken care of, and all adult parties involved do it voluntarily.
当你买宠物的时候，比如小鹦鹉，金鱼，荷兰猪，你经常至少买一对。她就是这么想的。
她自己本身希望能有龍鳳胎，希望生2個，所以才一口氣做了2個。
有爱心
hahahahaha
我觉得代孕应该要和“安乐死”一样，要到不得不得时候才能申请，而且要非常严格。这是给无法生育的夫妻的一个希望。
对啊，如果自己本身身体可以生孩子。为什么要找人代生。金钱不是万能的。
支持你。我也觉得必须具备某些条件才能找人代孕。不能随随便便就代孕
赞同，我觉得代孕必须要经过严格的审查过程，要有清晰的行业规范，哪些是属于“生理原因”，哪些不属于生理原因，要规定清楚，属于生理原因的方面必须要到正规医院检查，医院要出示检查书，检查书要经过公证处公证等等等等，手续一样也不能少。只有行业规范了，才不会滋生更多的恶之花。
郑爽这个瓜让我特别想吐，然而，后期看到网络上的郑爽粉怎么几尽全力为她洗白，转移公众视线，就算广电封杀她，她也依然找到渠道出镜哭惨。我再次震惊了,更恶心了!
谢谢麦克老师送的几个单词，很常用，而且我都不会
现在打开小红书都是洗白的，这种人要是能复出真的是要引起公愤了
卧槽，现在她爸又出来了，卧槽了，这特么要洗白，我特么的举报就
今天又吃到她身体不好，不能生育，还一直在打抚养权官司的瓜，不明真假，还是希望此事郑爽若是大有苦衷，能还她公道，但娱乐圈还是别待了。标签会让她喘不过气的
@@yongqiye2003 她打抚养权不代表她要抚养，有抚养权就有决定权，孩子爸爸就无权干涉，网友是都眼瞎吗？打代孕怀上这两孩子，到孩子一岁多，她一眼都没去看过，就这她能打算抚养孩子？
网上一堆郑爽的水军在替她洗白，是非颠倒，胡说八道，说她善良说她无助说她被逼无奈，真是恶心！中国社会价值观真是扭曲。
我能理解代孕，但是不能理解弃养，这是自己的孩子啊
我小时候老家有人没孩子，求爷爷告奶奶的找亲戚领养个，甚至买个都养了，这么有钱的明星，不该弃养，养好养赖也比送别人强啊。我把这事给我父亲说了，要是发生咱家会如何，我爸直接说，两口子离婚了，赔点钱也得把孩子要过来，觉得郑爽父母太胡闹了，好歹是自己孙子呢，郑爽是独生子，孩子要回来，家里不也有香火了吗。话说回来，我自己已经是有两个孩子的父亲了。
啥叫理解?价值观不对啊。代孕非法而且违背人伦
@江綠 一样也不想要小孩了，仇人的孩子啊生下后患无穷。。。
生育障碍代孕，和商业代孕你确实搞清楚了麽？
好險 郑不要孩子..
兩個生命, 跟著她長大...
日日月月年年 才可憐,
don’t judge a book by it’s cover. Sometimes have a good look doesn’t means she is fits for good wife, mother or even a good person.
What do you mean she is not a good person. You just said don’t judge a book by it’s a cover. That’s means you know knotting about her.
关键是弃养的问题，而不是用了代孕，是对生命的不尊重点燃了社会的怒火。
如果你觉得代孕没有问题那么郑爽就是没问题的，因为没有弃养，郑爽在被吃软饭出轨渣男爆出来前就已经作为原告在美国提出要孩子抚养权的诉讼，一段被引导以及剪辑过的录音引爆网络，张恒才是居心拨测之人（故意让郑爽看见大尺度出轨照片紧接着打着去道歉的名义录音）
非常赞成麦克老师的观点
+1
she didn't abandon her children, the guy just wants money from her and made up the false story and irritated the girl to speak and then he intentionally recorded their conversation illegally even since he begun to dating her! this is totally a typical scammer for money case , and the judge in Shanghai already ordered him to return 20 million back to the girl which she loaned the money to her boyfriend.
It’s true. I feel so sad for the two young children, too. They are innocent. Hopefully she can sigh the file and let kids come back to China. As Zhang, the father wants to raise them.
很少有非娱乐类的youtuber讲这个事情，Mike老师的勇气可嘉，观点也正，从一个普通人普通父亲的角度表达了自己的想法~谢谢分享
“You get what you get”. When someone decides to keep their body shape or keep their life like 18 years old for ever, it is fine. They might either sacrifice their eating habit or pay their effort to exercise. They can also sacrifice their rights of having children. But they don’t have rights to make other poor people to sacrifice for them.
我是一个母亲我个人认为是在没有准备好要孩子就不能要孩子，因为一旦决定要孩子就要负的起在任何环境下都要要负责。大人做出错误的决定，孩子很无辜，因为孩子没有选择父母的权利。
代孕可以理解，但是棄養真的是過分了。當生命是商品，孩子本就是恩賜，要珍惜！
越看麦克老师的视频越觉得他三观很正，善于思考，很喜欢他的作品。从不故意夸大两国之间的好与不好，他真的只是叙述，很理性。喜欢这种声音！看客可以从麦克老师的叙述中自己去分辨。
对他们生气的重点不是代孕，而是弃子，两个孩子像是两只金鱼，说送人就送人
高级灵长类怎么还不如其他灵长类呢？
想想孩子长大了听见录音，妈妈姥姥姥爷要弃养他们，还说就忘记了这件事情。。孩子会怀疑自己为啥要来到这个世界吧
我觉得孩子送给美国人领养是孩子最好的出路。
我覺得老師是能夠教大家學習好多不同的英文會話，好多不同的英文生字，好多不同的英文單字丶好多不同的英文文法，好多不同的英文拼音，我覺得都非常好喜歡學習英文。多謝分享一下。我都值得欣賞和讚賞的。我都非常好有興趣學習英文。我覺得都非常好有幫助的。我覺得都非常好有實用的。
鄭爽的案例會害慘那些真正需要想要找代孕的家庭。門坎更高了；社會接受度更低了。
我也這樣覺得。
有法治精神的人决不会在网上散布谣言造谣诽谤他人 。 有发现犯罪行为必须报警或去法院解决。
她代孕就算了，关键还弃养。不过代孕的弊端，母亲少了10月怀胎的羁绊，这是一个产生身心情感的过程，对她来说没有付出，产生不了母爱，他付出的仅仅是那100万，这对她来说就是一个商品
那是郑爽利用了代孕这件事本身，事实上很多不孕不育的父母对于代孕出来的孩子都非常珍惜的，你想想不孕不育的父母为了得到一个孩子付出了多少努力，忍受了多少嘲讽吗，他们能不珍惜吗？别切他们对于孕母也都是很感恩的。
@@greenanthony5821 郑爽为何代孕？不会生才找代孕，自己生还是亲。
@@YK-dz3xd 所以我说她利用了代孕这件事本身啊，你看的啥评论？
是不是自己生跟母爱没关系，大把领养的代孕的都对孩子很有感情。再说了，没有一个男人10月怀胎，照你的逻辑，父爱是幻觉咯？
Finally found a clear-headed! In fact, the whole incident, the problem is not "surrogacy", but as parents, whether they have abandoned behavior! "Surrogacy" is actually no problem, but abandonment, it involves legal responsibility.
最魔鬼的，在第二段录音，郑爽说，没关系，把这两个孩子弃养，如果我们后来还有感情，那我们还有未用完的卵子，我们还可以再找人代孕，再要小孩啊。。。。。。
鄭爽有當中共高官的潛力，不在乎生命，不管別人感受
同意~我也覺得這句話
完全顯示了他們對代孕看法有多輕浮，要與不要全憑情緒
我住在Virginia州,我赞同麦克老师,在很多可以理解的因素下,接受代孕,前提是你们(感情双方)已经做好了为人父母,承担责任的时候,才可以去做这件事情,并为自己的行为负责,也就是抚养两个孩子,如果做不到,就不要去做,可怜这两个孩子在以后成长的过程,要承受本不该有的缺失,在不完整的家庭中长大!这件事继已发生,两个人在一起共同抚养孩子的几率几乎为零了!😭So sad!作为母亲,我更在乎的是这两个孩子,他们的未来该何去何从,完全没有吃瓜的心态!
就算是貓貓狗狗都不能隨便棄養，何況棄養小孩，得多沒人性才能說出。還想可能感情好了再生，這是什麼人啊。
这种事情必须要去法院提出起诉而不是在社会上只管散布谣言而不管两个婴儿死活 救两个婴儿为先的话 就是真的！反之是假。
我的一个闺蜜四十多了结婚后和老公有过一个娃。遗憾的是，怀孕3个月不到孩子突然流产了。她好伤心，后来听说美国可以代孕，联系后才知道很多美国正轨代孕机构的代孕妈妈并不是为了纯粹赚钱。她们很大程度是真的想帮其他人实现有娃梦想。举个例子，她们刚到美国联系的一个代孕妈妈突然在签合同前变卦了。因为她姐姐也需要一个孩子，但姐姐没办法自己生。于是这个代孕妈妈想先帮助自己的姐姐。就和我朋友说，她不能帮我朋友了。
所以，代孕没什么可指责。不能接受是动不动就说堕胎，动不动就弃养。
你去看看那个美国主持人代孕的事件吧，还真以为代孕是什么好事？
梧月 我觉得如果经济允许，且年纪大了无法生育。很多人会考虑合法代孕。
@@sharonm.9929 代孕就是阶级剥削，精英阶层剥削下层人民，别扯什么自愿帮助，资本家有的是办法让你“自愿”，无法生育大可以领养，不愿意领养就别说自己是真的爱孩子，觉得自己的高贵基因必须要传承，本质自私罢了
@@rachelyin8501 除了空氣之外，沒有甚麼不是用金錢來進行階級剝削吧
这个视频我其实觉得很meaningful！Thanks for sharing
Just a bit of some questions on my mind... How come they have that kind of recording for a delicate thing if it is not meant for blackmailing. As what they say it is a 6 hour length conversation but only a few minutes was released. Just my opinion isn't a bit fishy?
I also don't like how ZS say those words about those young children. But did she really meant it that way. Just giving some benefit of the doubt since we know how cruel our world right now with those money minded people...
Actually that's a way to protect yourself.Recently there was a recording of a 4-yrs-ago conversation released by an actress which is now considered CLASSIC.Most people compliment and say good job.
You have reached the point. In fact, netizens discovered that Zheng Shuang’s ex-boyfriend Zhang Heng is gay, or bisexual. The reason why Zheng Shuang’s first thought was abortion was because she found out that Zhang Heng had cheated on multiple times and watched his mobile phone. She saw some sex tape that Zhang Heng recorded. And he also took the sex tape of he and zhengshuang , we all know what it means to a female actress.
Later evidence showed that since Zhang Heng and Zheng Shuang confirmed their relationship, he had been secretly recording the private conversation Zheng Shuang and her family, and pictured Zheng Shuang's work contract. There is a gang behind Zhang Heng , the support of the media and professional public relations. They plan to use children and other secrets as tools to blackmail Zheng Shuang for a long time-because she is a high-income female star, but Zheng Shuang refused, so they chose To ruin her.
@@yukijun2849 wth, where you get this stuff?! It sounds fishy , it looks like your writing a fan fic, haha
@@ssomms2361 I have been following her since 1.18. Am I a fan? I just can't stand Zhang Heng's lies, language games and his viciousness.
@@yukijun2849 I think this msg needs to be posted everywhere u see about the issue of her
有深度的一堂英文课，也喜欢麦克老师讲解的同时有中文字幕。
我的 80 歲母親很小就被收養，15 歲離家出走再沒有回到那個家，每次她喝醉酒就會向我哭訴:" 為什麼我的親父母不要我，我做錯了什麼事，他們要這樣對我?" 南洋華裔以
前有個非常糟糕的傳統，生不出男孩就把其中一個女兒送人，他們迷信像這樣下一個會是男孩，所以
母親的親父母完全可以負擔得起她的養育費，只是為了追男孩把母親送給人。被收養的孩子心中會有一種普通人不能理解的傷害，而這傷害有些
人一生都無法治愈。希望鄭爽三思再三思，想一想棄養將為孩子們帶來什麼程度的傷害? 這件事情如果處理不好，不只是孩子們受到傷害，他們可能會恨你一生。
所以我不太理解那些喷张碧晨的，人家没代孕，自己生，没抛弃孩子，大方承认……还是被骂了……明明跟郑爽完全相反的做法……🤦♀️
而且人家是有没有男人都不重要孩子要紧，在事业的高峰期为了孩子抛下一切，真的可以了。
@@lishan7219 我也这么觉得，算很有责任心了……
有人喷她没结婚，背着男方偷偷把孩子生下来……那郑爽张恒不也是分手不可能结婚了，🤦♀️男方用计谋套女方钱，女方不想承担责任要弃养……
再加上代孕争议……
差不多的处境……张碧晨选择了完全相反的方式……结果还是有人看不下去🤔
难道不爱分手的两个人，非得为了孩子强行结婚在一起…… 那婚姻也不会多幸福😬
吃瓜吃完整 代孕有错 因为中国不合法 现在微博有证据了 没弃养 去年就一直在争抚养权 有文件证明的!!!! 只是被撤了 毕竟官媒被打脸了
@@在板鸭的翊汐 我觉得有正爽的大恶臭瓜在前，我再看到张碧晨新瓜觉得不是啥大事了…………🤦♀️
我觉得要一分为二看问题，不能走极端！😄任何事都不能简单地说错与对！有时候，对于公众来说，可能是不合适，或有问题的，但是，具体到某些人身上，也可能是不得已的最好解决办法！不能一概而论，不能一刀切🌹🌹
As a mon, i just feel so sad to hear about the news. I feel sorry to the kids, it's really not fair to the kids
麦克老师 祝你的粉丝越来越多 多做一些当下焦点的视频 谢谢
She has a freedom of right what she has to do. That her own business and the people don't have the right to judge her decision. As long as she didn't harm the people. Remember, Freedom of speech. Freedom of human Right.
lucky i dont know you..
She doesn’t have right
Meanwhile she doesn’t have right to abandon her kids.
Of course she have the right if the surrogate mother agrees. This is all about their choice whether or not to let these children are allowed to come outside this world because these are made up by theirs. Sometimes,people wish they didn't be born. What is the point of giving birth when she is not ready to raise these children? To let suffer all mental trauma caused by their psychological illed mother?
👍👍👍分析太好了，三观正确
寵物也是家人，縱使發生任何事，我也絕對不會拋棄牠，甚至任何家人 ; 因為我家曾經失去太多了。對於輕易就拋棄家人的人，甚至血親的人，實在無法諒解，並且還想傷害代孕媽媽的健康，太可惡了。
孩子不是心血来潮买来的物品，是生命！是责任！作为母亲的我完全赞同麦克老师。郑爽偶像身份的是非我不予评价，但代孕弃养的行为任何人都不能容忍。
真高興看到你們一切都安好！今天的主題是一個非常嚴重的問題，只因為有太多不負責任的人，做了不負責任的事，才會有太多受傷害的人，如今是一個高知識的環境下，這種事還是隨處可見，太悲哀，太可憐也太無奈了⋯⋯
我对代孕并不持反对意见，但是抛弃孩子绝对是不对的。
孩子出生后人家在打抚养权官司，在争取孩子抚养权，而不是不要孩子。录音是两人刚分手孩子还没出生之前的。孩子还没出生时父亲出轨，想把孩子打掉很正常好吧！这个录音就是男方故意放出来，目的就是让人都以为他们真的不要孩子。就好把孩子判给他。然后以孩子为借口不还钱。
@@tianxiaogua 我想说他们打的是抚养决定权 而不是抚养权
@@tianxiaogua opps 还有男方根本没欠她钱 那2千万是花在公司和女方跟家人身上
善良的麦克老师
孩子可以给我们夫妻收养吗？我们无法生育，办理收养手续5年，至今没有结果😭😭😢😢
但是感觉男方愿意承担这个抚养的义务呀。估计你们是没有希望的。虽然郑爽的素质差。但他男朋友比她好多了。毕竟知道承担义务。
愿上帝祝福你们尽快可以收养到一位孩子，用一生来爱他/她！
@@GP-nr2fm 谢谢您🙏🙏
可以去国外代孕，以前有一对夫妇女方无法生育，在外代孕了一双男方的子女。
@@住在云上 谢谢您的建议，我就在美国，代孕是一件非常复杂的事情，整个过程有太多的变数，我周围好几对夫妻都陷入官司之中……
老麦是个绝对的好人。
網友的憤怒是她們家三口把棄養小孩說成送給人家養是在做好事！三觀盡毀，漠視生命，讓人噁,心！希望小孩爸爸能把他們照顧好。攤一深井冰的媽。孩子是無辜的！小孩都是上帝送的禮物🎁！
看上去麦克老师回上海后过得舒适安稳，前阵子的两个大眼袋没了。显得更年轻更帅了。赞！
疯了，想想那些渴望有孩子的，来之不易，代孕说实话也不便宜，脑子怎么想的，成年人了要为自己行为负责
中文說的這麼道地，太佩服了。
老师回国以后看得出来整个精神状态都好很多！家就是家，无法被代替！
这个事件确实有很多让人思考的问题。关于代孕，国内很多网友都在无条件坚决反对，我认为应该从多个角度来看待。
我身在美国，身边有同性恋情侣结婚后渴望小孩，就代孕生出了宝宝，而他们也在非常负责任的抚养呵护自己的孩子。
因此，我觉得代孕如果一棒子打死是过于极端的。
代孕需要正式机关严格控制把关运行，但是不能因为运行可能会有这样那样的微小风险就否定它的意义所在，不去做那样的努力。
一个想随便丢掉自己孩子的人，已经不能称之为人了
Thank you for translate and subtitles ❤
就怕她现在被迫抚养 成为不合格的母亲 也是孩子们的悲哀
我也觉的，如果不爱还不如别养，送给会给孩子全部爱的人领养。
@@elise4682 真的被祸害人间了
That's very true of what you have commented, Mike.
Sad, ... hope things will work out back for this couple.
With Zheng Shuang's reputation, I wouldn't even trusted her with a puppy. But, we also don't know the whole story. Just hope they can both do the right things for the good of the little lives they created.
I’ve read that she has a dog and ask the vet to grind the dog’s teeth because she afraid that she would get bitten
@@gameone5522 i saw a video about that but since i dont know Chinese can't believe everything people translate they may be exaggerated or whatever the case
It broke my heart to hear this story. I really like her. I adored her in Love 020. Surrogacy should not be allowed. That is just how I feel. It is too easily abused and too many variables. Why, why, why would you start with 2???
Mayb she'll hope for forgiveness n hope everyone will forgive her
Hmmm... she'll hope for forgiveness for sure for the money I don't think she's worth forgiving at all
if she wants people to forgive her, she has to act on it! She has to take up the responsibility as a mother! But she did NOTHING, but keep asking for forgiveness, she should ask her biological children for forgiveness, not the general public.
@@eveleung8855 true and her immediate response after the news got viral on weibo was to bad mouth her ex or talk abt financial issue
I really don't think that she cares abt her children at all
Hopefully, they learn from this mistake and provide all love to the children. I made mistakes when I was 29. Let's give them a chance.
其实代孕不是不好，只是真的要严格把关，应该把条件设定是，至少尝试了其他方法，都无法怀上孩子的夫妇，需要有之前的不孕/不育治疗证据，证明这些夫妇是真的很想要孩子。如果不是因为不能生的其他因素，都不应该代孕。
我也觉得的。我觉得舆论一边倒不懂是啥意思。一下子贩卖人口啥啥啥的。合法化不就是更保护这些人权利吗？打击黑作坊，打击非法行为，才能杜绝什么人口贩卖的情况。
那些说什么富人压迫穷人。我的天，一个没有受过教育的女性，这可能是她改变一生的唯一途径，真的站的说话不腰疼。你倒是去帮帮这些女性过上更好的生活呀。女权女权，不是社会地位有多高。而且希望每个女性都有选择的权利！
信じられない､
責任もモラルも完全に崩壊ですね！
麦克老师说的很对Kids Are A Blessing
这是我看到的唯一一个客观的说法，大家都结论说到决绝认养孩子的郑爽新闻上，
Thanks for your teaching, hope you everything goes well.
代孕不是什么问题，弃养是不可接受的！人渣一大家，极端自私，没一个人为孩子考虑过一丁点。
代孕不是愤怒的点，愤怒的是她和她家人的无情。没有录音，代孕或者打掉孩子都是个人的选择。部分人会愤怒，大部分人会无视。把孩子当成垃圾的言语才让所有人愤怒。
不是所有爸爸都這麼有責任感啊
有孩子是苦中作乐的事说得很好，光鲜的明星造成这样的事真是大打折扣，还没为人父母励志做个好的榜样吧
Don't agree with you on "get a puppy first" Not even a puppy if you don't fully commit!!! Having a puppy requires commitment and responsibility as well.
寵物也是生命，如果不能對待寵物像對待自己孩子一般，永遠不捨不棄，就請不要養寵物。
It reveals the moral problems of the Chinese people today. How ridiculous in the discussion among the families - four parents and Zheng Shang herself - they focused on anything else but not the kids! Thanks Mike for bringing up this topic in your talk.
What Zheng did is really awful!!! Her action reminds me of the TH-camr Myka Stauffer, she treated her Chinese adopted son badly and rehomed him in the end. I do not know why these people can still be influencers? I feel so sad for their kids!
Priority is the kids, they are chinese since both the parents are from China. First thing is that the mother should give her cooperation in bringing the kids back to China, then settle whatever issues she has with the kids` father..from what has been heard and seen, the kids father is willing to keep the kids!
当家长之前应该有严格的培训制度，不是所有人都有资格做家长。