The license feels like a last minute addition, not something the set was built off of. Because everything in Technic has to be licensed these days; but I guess that's what sells
5:26 Aha! Again, more proof that we could get an RC boat set out of this new hub using its rear outputs in the future.Twin boat propellers often spin in opposite directions, and the fact that LEGO obviously gave thought to this is a really good sign! 5:31 Here’s a good test to see if the front motor can act as a normal motor outside of being a steering servo: Try manually rotating that output a full 360 degrees. If it only turns 180 degrees, then no, you unfortunately cannot use it as a normal motor. If you are successfully able to manually rotate the output a full 360 degrees (or a complete circle), then yes, you will probably be able to use that forward output in the same way you would use a regular, individual rotating motor once the hub is able to communicate with the Powered UP app, which LEGO is hopefully actively working on making possible. Great review!
I think LEGO can learn from such RC companies like Traxxas & Axial....just stop with the APP nonsense & just use a normal remote like real RC companies do, it's not hard to understand, plus, it's faster to bind an RC remote & faster to use, than a app on the phone, just adding my two sense. Lol
Bro. I thought we will get Lego RC SYSTEM CARS with small 6x8 chasis on 2010 when I saw what other RC companies could do in 2000. ANd we are still stuck with those huge lunky designs xD
When I saw the teaser for this set, I was like, "new hub, cool!" Bought it, came exactly on my birthday. Pretty fun set and then just watching your review of it, I pretty much agree with everything you said. The new powered up/control+ system is just missing the remote. It maybe a big upgrade and have lots of potential (which it does), I still miss power functions ever since I've grown up with it.
The real kicker is that LEGO advertised this as the fastest LEGO RC car ever. Not the fastest powered up car, fastest LEGO RC car in their entire history. So it's not just that the performance is disappointing, the performance is blatantly false advertising! RC buggy sets aren't exactly obscure, it's easy to find examples of LEGO cars faster than this, so either the marketing department is fine with lying to our faces now, or LEGO nerfed the performance of the hub at the last second because they decided consumers can't be trusted with a fast LEGO car. Could be locked out of the powered up app to prevent its full capabilities from being used, or it's just marketing being lame.
Nah, I think it's just the case of marketing people not knowing and not caring that LEGO used to make much faster sets 20 years ago. It's just a job to them.
Awesome choice of song, I grew up listening to Hybrid on and off thanks to my older brother and Empire is a great one! Although the same praises can't be said of the set itself! I would've preferred this to be a 1/12th scaled model like the Ford GT, and go without the electronics, but I suppose they refused to do that when the 42096 911 RSR set is STILL on sale somehow! Forgoing the license would've helped a bit cos it does still look cool, but definitely off the mark in trying to resemble the real car. As it is, it basically provides very little improvement over the last Control+ RC car save for a very slightly better top speed and despite being more technically advanced, it is still a huge step backwards from Power Functions based remote controlled sets and even that old Racer set from almost 20 years ago, due to how restrictive and inflexible the electronic components are here which I was not expecting! I may as well get a cheap RC car instead then, or get any other larger Lego set for that matter.
Thanks for the review. Honest, as always, and very informative. Namely, I feel thoroughly informed - once more - that they have absolutely no idea about basic electronics. Two out of three motors fused together? No remote? Non-customizable app? Good-bye, 42176.
So agree with this review! In itself I don't even think a specialized RC unit like this is such a bad idea, if it was used properly. I mean, how cool would it be if you could just buy that hub and put it in any of the smaller sized Technic supercars? And then it obviously should include a physical remote. But as it is now, especially at this price: No, just no. It has the same issues as any plain RC car by Lego: rather slow and very limited play value. The tracked vehicles Lego made are just so much more fun to drive, and other (more expensive) sets at least offer some other functions. But for €170, you can also buy a cheap Nikko or Carrera RC car that will run circles around this, and two of the Technic supercars like the Jesko or Huracan. Or the bigger Ford GT. And probably still have some change left. I know what I would pick.... And then there's the proprietory battery....how long will replacements be available when it inevitably dies some day? Oh wait, doesn't really matter since this set will be useless once the app is no longer supported. All in all not the worst idea (and I actually really like the lights!), but terrible execution. And probably the worst thing is: In shops this will be standing right next to the Audi RS Q E-tron, which for the same price is quite a bit bigger and includes a much more flexible system with three motors. And did either of these black blobs need a license?
Hi Sariel, great video, as always. Thank you very much. I was very curious about this new motor. And what can I say: I'm proud of Lego for finally discovering the new technology of a rechargeable battery. But once again, they got everything wrong. Maybe by 2040, they'll come out with something that resembles a current Buwizz.
This battery has more than double the energy of an AA battery despite having similar mAh rating, due to being 4.2V vs 1.5V. Also 3.7V doesn't automatically mean slower than 9V, tiny quadcopters fly on these voltages, and their motors give out like 50k RPM.
Yeah it looks pretty ugly and could be more accurate but one or two stars would've been more reasonable, I can at least see the general shape of the car in it somewhat.
What you're seeing here is 3 motors AND a battery box (AND a receiver if you use PF) condensed to the size of 1 separate Lego battery box and 1 Lego L motor-ish. PU/C+ motors might be a wee bit bigger, but not by much. The rounded shape of PF motors might have deceived you there.
@@HNBGamer Oh, I know. But even the normal PU stuff is significantly larger than PF and for some stuff even a normal PF M-motor is just too large. The stuff that I am building will never benefit from these huge components
I feel like those HUBs have so much potential, but LEGO keeps them very strictly guarded Compare that to RC, you have receiver with numerous channels, so you can expand your models, nowadays 4 channels are common even for cars (where you need just two by default) When LEGO switch to POWERED UP, I though every HUB will have maximum number of ports possible, and if some of them have extra in-build function, then maybe less, that's understandable But as I don't know details about what is happening inside or what protocols are they using for communication
Ever since this was announced I've been checking pybrick every now and then to see if they've added support for it. And now hearing from you that it isn't even compatible with Legos own software completely kills it for me, at least for now. Especially since it serves to obscure potential functionality, like separating the motors or using built in sensors. The product implies it, but until we know I think it's best to just assume the worst. I mean it could still be used for all types of cars, half-tracks etc. and with some clever transmission/linking a bit more as well. But nah, definitely better options even within Legos own eco-system for now.
Dobra bateria AA ma 2000 mAh ale napięcię 1.2 V co znaczy że ma koło 2,4 Wh. Czyli jednak ten nowy akumulator lego ma pojemność koło 3 baterii AA (to byłoby straszne marnotrastwo miejsca robić tak dużą baterię z taką małą pojemnością).
I bought this set mostly hoping to play with the new fibre optic parts, its so incredibly disappointing that there are no custom control options for this new hub. I can only hope at some point a 3rd party control option becomes available, but making this thing so locked down really kills any potential for moccing with the new hub. And like... its lego, if we cant make our own things with it then what are we even doing here? Reportedly, lego actually takes into account the feedback they get through their online feedback form, so it might be worthwhile complaining about it through there
I think you were too harsh on the authenticity. The scale really limits how things could look here. I'd like to challenge you to try and rebuild it so that it's better, while maintaining some of its robustness. Are you sure it's not so close as to be in the uncanny valley?
I'm usually cautious when a lot of people go like "looks nothing like the real thing". But in this case it really looks nothing like it. Why does the front end look like that? Where's the rear windshield?
Nah you wrong i think lego really cuts corners these days by making very specialized parts like new panels for every new set and then that's why every new lego car looks the same or at least use the same shapes, and then they slap a license on it and call it a day. A few years ago lego and moc builders used more various and clever building techniques to create unique shapes and stuff.
I’m just confused as to why Lego wouldn’t just stick in a fast motor that propels this thing at least to 15/20 mph with an esc and receiver with a transmitter. You can buy a Arrma Typhon grom and it would be much faster and durable than this along with upgradable parts.
Could the creator of the speed build slow it down a bit . As I can't find where I've gone wrong. This is the only build video I can find at the moment.
Interesting, from my perspective (a car noob) Model and real car looks almost the same. But Jeeze that electronic hub is a waste D: I am so flabbergasted, why Lego dont want to make a propper easy to use "RC" system.
Lego already walked the road from toy company to lifestyle kitsch and licensed collectibles maker. Do you want Lego go RC model maker, too? If i want "real" RC, i buy Tamyia or some RC specialist company. It's just, Lego lost it's focus on quality ,it's quantity and high prices
The license feels like a last minute addition, not something the set was built off of. Because everything in Technic has to be licensed these days; but I guess that's what sells
5:26 Aha! Again, more proof that we could get an RC boat set out of this new hub using its rear outputs in the future.Twin boat propellers often spin in opposite directions, and the fact that LEGO obviously gave thought to this is a really good sign!
5:31 Here’s a good test to see if the front motor can act as a normal motor outside of being a steering servo: Try manually rotating that output a full 360 degrees. If it only turns 180 degrees, then no, you unfortunately cannot use it as a normal motor. If you are successfully able to manually rotate the output a full 360 degrees (or a complete circle), then yes, you will probably be able to use that forward output in the same way you would use a regular, individual rotating motor once the hub is able to communicate with the Powered UP app, which LEGO is hopefully actively working on making possible.
Great review!
I think LEGO can learn from such RC companies like Traxxas & Axial....just stop with the APP nonsense & just use a normal remote like real RC companies do, it's not hard to understand, plus, it's faster to bind an RC remote & faster to use, than a app on the phone, just adding my two sense. Lol
Think of the 30% profit margins though!
Bro. I thought we will get Lego RC SYSTEM CARS with small 6x8 chasis on 2010 when I saw what other RC companies could do in 2000. ANd we are still stuck with those huge lunky designs xD
Welcome to bigdata era
When I saw the teaser for this set, I was like, "new hub, cool!" Bought it, came exactly on my birthday. Pretty fun set and then just watching your review of it, I pretty much agree with everything you said. The new powered up/control+ system is just missing the remote. It maybe a big upgrade and have lots of potential (which it does), I still miss power functions ever since I've grown up with it.
The real kicker is that LEGO advertised this as the fastest LEGO RC car ever. Not the fastest powered up car, fastest LEGO RC car in their entire history.
So it's not just that the performance is disappointing, the performance is blatantly false advertising! RC buggy sets aren't exactly obscure, it's easy to find examples of LEGO cars faster than this, so either the marketing department is fine with lying to our faces now, or LEGO nerfed the performance of the hub at the last second because they decided consumers can't be trusted with a fast LEGO car. Could be locked out of the powered up app to prevent its full capabilities from being used, or it's just marketing being lame.
Nah, I think it's just the case of marketing people not knowing and not caring that LEGO used to make much faster sets 20 years ago. It's just a job to them.
Awesome choice of song, I grew up listening to Hybrid on and off thanks to my older brother and Empire is a great one! Although the same praises can't be said of the set itself!
I would've preferred this to be a 1/12th scaled model like the Ford GT, and go without the electronics, but I suppose they refused to do that when the 42096 911 RSR set is STILL on sale somehow! Forgoing the license would've helped a bit cos it does still look cool, but definitely off the mark in trying to resemble the real car.
As it is, it basically provides very little improvement over the last Control+ RC car save for a very slightly better top speed and despite being more technically advanced, it is still a huge step backwards from Power Functions based remote controlled sets and even that old Racer set from almost 20 years ago, due to how restrictive and inflexible the electronic components are here which I was not expecting!
I may as well get a cheap RC car instead then, or get any other larger Lego set for that matter.
Thanks for the review. Honest, as always, and very informative. Namely, I feel thoroughly informed - once more - that they have absolutely no idea about basic electronics. Two out of three motors fused together? No remote? Non-customizable app? Good-bye, 42176.
So agree with this review! In itself I don't even think a specialized RC unit like this is such a bad idea, if it was used properly. I mean, how cool would it be if you could just buy that hub and put it in any of the smaller sized Technic supercars? And then it obviously should include a physical remote.
But as it is now, especially at this price: No, just no. It has the same issues as any plain RC car by Lego: rather slow and very limited play value. The tracked vehicles Lego made are just so much more fun to drive, and other (more expensive) sets at least offer some other functions. But for €170, you can also buy a cheap Nikko or Carrera RC car that will run circles around this, and two of the Technic supercars like the Jesko or Huracan. Or the bigger Ford GT. And probably still have some change left. I know what I would pick....
And then there's the proprietory battery....how long will replacements be available when it inevitably dies some day? Oh wait, doesn't really matter since this set will be useless once the app is no longer supported.
All in all not the worst idea (and I actually really like the lights!), but terrible execution. And probably the worst thing is: In shops this will be standing right next to the Audi RS Q E-tron, which for the same price is quite a bit bigger and includes a much more flexible system with three motors. And did either of these black blobs need a license?
The central hub concept gives me throwbacks to the old Spybotics series, especially with the fiber optics which were also a big part of those.
You forget mentioning electronic differential and gyro-calibrated steering. On program level, this set is jumped on next level.
Does it have electronic differential?
@@verypong1 Yes
Hi Sariel, great video, as always. Thank you very much.
I was very curious about this new motor. And what can I say: I'm proud of Lego for finally discovering the new technology of a rechargeable battery. But once again, they got everything wrong.
Maybe by 2040, they'll come out with something that resembles a current Buwizz.
I just saw this set in a retail store. I couldnt tell what car this was until I read the box...
This battery has more than double the energy of an AA battery despite having similar mAh rating, due to being 4.2V vs 1.5V. Also 3.7V doesn't automatically mean slower than 9V, tiny quadcopters fly on these voltages, and their motors give out like 50k RPM.
0 for authenticity is wild towards the end of the video.
Yeah it looks pretty ugly and could be more accurate but one or two stars would've been more reasonable, I can at least see the general shape of the car in it somewhat.
At least I could at least identify it as some sort of Porsche.
I miss the days when motors and battery boxes were smaller :(
What you're seeing here is 3 motors AND a battery box (AND a receiver if you use PF) condensed to the size of 1 separate Lego battery box and 1 Lego L motor-ish. PU/C+ motors might be a wee bit bigger, but not by much.
The rounded shape of PF motors might have deceived you there.
@@HNBGamer Oh, I know. But even the normal PU stuff is significantly larger than PF and for some stuff even a normal PF M-motor is just too large.
The stuff that I am building will never benefit from these huge components
I feel like those HUBs have so much potential, but LEGO keeps them very strictly guarded
Compare that to RC, you have receiver with numerous channels, so you can expand your models, nowadays 4 channels are common even for cars (where you need just two by default)
When LEGO switch to POWERED UP, I though every HUB will have maximum number of ports possible, and if some of them have extra in-build function, then maybe less, that's understandable
But as I don't know details about what is happening inside or what protocols are they using for communication
Ever since this was announced I've been checking pybrick every now and then to see if they've added support for it. And now hearing from you that it isn't even compatible with Legos own software completely kills it for me, at least for now. Especially since it serves to obscure potential functionality, like separating the motors or using built in sensors. The product implies it, but until we know I think it's best to just assume the worst.
I mean it could still be used for all types of cars, half-tracks etc. and with some clever transmission/linking a bit more as well. But nah, definitely better options even within Legos own eco-system for now.
Brickcontroller 2 app doesn't work with it either at the moment.
Not a good set as I thought, though the fiber optic cables are cool, they could look great on your Tron bike
Not really, they barely shine compared to LED filaments that I have on my TRON bike. You can actually see a comparison in this video.
Dobra bateria AA ma 2000 mAh ale napięcię 1.2 V co znaczy że ma koło 2,4 Wh. Czyli jednak ten nowy akumulator lego ma pojemność koło 3 baterii AA (to byłoby straszne marnotrastwo miejsca robić tak dużą baterię z taką małą pojemnością).
I bought this set mostly hoping to play with the new fibre optic parts, its so incredibly disappointing that there are no custom control options for this new hub. I can only hope at some point a 3rd party control option becomes available, but making this thing so locked down really kills any potential for moccing with the new hub. And like... its lego, if we cant make our own things with it then what are we even doing here?
Reportedly, lego actually takes into account the feedback they get through their online feedback form, so it might be worthwhile complaining about it through there
Will you review the Koenigsegg jesko absolut?
Eventually, yes. I have the grey one on my shopping list :)
PS. Damn, I wasted such a great opportunity to say: yes, ABSOLUTely ;)
@@searme dang, that's a good one
Question: are the 2 rear motors change speed proportionally when steering? Since there is no differential. If they did, that'd be neat
Yes.
@@searme That's pretty cool actually! I wish they got out more of the LEDs tho, like brake lights effects etc.
I think you were too harsh on the authenticity. The scale really limits how things could look here. I'd like to challenge you to try and rebuild it so that it's better, while maintaining some of its robustness. Are you sure it's not so close as to be in the uncanny valley?
I'm usually cautious when a lot of people go like "looks nothing like the real thing". But in this case it really looks nothing like it. Why does the front end look like that? Where's the rear windshield?
Nah you wrong i think lego really cuts corners these days by making very specialized parts like new panels for every new set and then that's why every new lego car looks the same or at least use the same shapes, and then they slap a license on it and call it a day. A few years ago lego and moc builders used more various and clever building techniques to create unique shapes and stuff.
I think for the scale, its actually pretty good
Was instantly recognizable for me
Ha, I thought 'this sounds like Hybrid'.
Is this the first ever zero stars?
no
The liebherr crane came to my mind and, of course, it also has 0 stars for authenticity
I bet All Terrain Tow Truck or it's alternate from 2017 has a zero star. Or at least a 1.
I checked, no zeros, but the B model has 5 ones and 2 twos
I’m just confused as to why Lego wouldn’t just stick in a fast motor that propels this thing at least to 15/20 mph with an esc and receiver with a transmitter. You can buy a Arrma Typhon grom and it would be much faster and durable than this along with upgradable parts.
With the hub off so it’s not electronically fighting you, can you rotate the steering motor past 90 degrees or does it hit a stop?
We don't know
It’s a shame it does not have any suspension and the LEDs was not used on the rear. Wasted potential, most of price gone for a new hub…
Czy to prawda że ten HUB ma żyroskopową stabilizację jazdy do przodu (w linii prostej) ?
Podobno. Ciężko zweryfikować.
Ok this gotta be the first time you gave a category zero starts in your rating😂😂😂😂
Could the creator of the speed build slow it down a bit . As I can't find where I've gone wrong. This is the only build video I can find at the moment.
You can reduce the speed in YT player's settings. Or, you know, check the building instructions.
@searme I've tried the building instructions. That's why I turned to TH-cam. But never knew about TH-cam player.
mine not working as it sud 😢
Interesting, from my perspective (a car noob) Model and real car looks almost the same. But Jeeze that electronic hub is a waste D:
I am so flabbergasted, why Lego dont want to make a propper easy to use "RC" system.
Lego already walked the road from toy company to lifestyle kitsch and licensed collectibles maker.
Do you want Lego go RC model maker, too?
If i want "real" RC, i buy Tamyia or some RC specialist company.
It's just, Lego lost it's focus on quality ,it's quantity and high prices