Hold on now. Dr. Bongface is actually another callback to the original Howard the Duck comic from the 70's. One of his nefarious nemesises (nemeses? nemesi?) was the diabolical DOCTOR BONG!! One hand was a striker for his bell-shaped helmet to sound a knell of doom! Waaaaugh!!
Theres kind of a multilayer thing in this: Giffen created Lobo, and Ambush Bug, AND Lunatik. ok, hang on. Yeah Lunatik IS Lobo- Giffen created the character in hgh school and debuted him as a villian at marvel i the Defenders. He stars in one of the funniest comics ever - the one where the Defenders hold an open audition and everyone shows up and starts fighting. When Giffen goes to DC he took Lunatik with him and basically just transformed him into Lobo.
The Challengers of the Fantastic was by Karl Kesel and Tom Grummett, who previously did Adventures of Superman and Superboy together in the early 90s. Remember, a lot of the Amalgam books used existing teams at Marvel and DC at the time they were published (e.g. John Byrne did the Storm/WW mashup because he was on Wonder Woman at the time). Alan Grant was doing Lobo in the mid 90s which is why he's on this. The dog is a mashup of Impossible Man and Lobo's Dawg.
Hi there. This one hits hard. Hearing Ed talking about 100000 subs by the end of the year brings atear to my eye . Let us get it . RIP ED. GREETINGS from Germany
Dr. Bong is Marvel. Great insight, but yeah, I'm going to miss many of the references here. Kinda deep dive Marvel/DC Mad Magazine type parody that I'm not up on enough to get all the jokes.
As a collector, I bought just about every Amalgam comic both years, except for X-Men related titles; that was a line of comics I avoided in the 90s. However I didn’t read a lot of them that I bought. I’ve been culling unwanted comics from my collection so maybe some of those need to go. And Lunatik was a character Keith Giffen created in the 70s during his Defenders run; I always considered Lunatik a prototype for Lobo (there’s a slight resemblance between Giffen’s version of Lunatik and Lobo’s first time in Omega Men #3. Incorporating Lunatik into a Giffenverse style makes sense.) And Gold Kidney Lady is obviously a take on Kidney Lady from Howard the Duck #12, the first issue I ever saw, in 1977. (That was the issue with the Kiss cameo on the last page.)
Re: GoldKidney Lady. The Kidney Lady was a Howard the Duck antagonist combined with some other DC character I can’t identify. But the Kidney Lady was nuts. She was the paranoid older woman who was convinced people were out to harvest her kidneys.
Okay I looked again and to clarify that's the Lobo comics' male character Gold Star, though I would have thought given the lady aspect I would have thought that it would have been Booster Gold's sister Goldstar (one word). To make things more confusing they apparently changed the dude's name to (one word) Goldstar later on...
We often cite a myriad of reasons why comics plummeted in the 1990s: bad practices from publishers, speculation, trade cards, consolidation of the Diamond monopoly, video games, etc. But this video clarifies other major problem from that era: the increasingly insular and cryptic nature of commercial American comics, the obsession with inside jokes and the amalgamation of so-called "geek culture" that later became this fiasco we have today. Kids in the 2000s would rather read a manga series that's 40 tankôbons long than subject themselves to comics like this above, where you need to be a member of some secret society to understand 90% of the ""jokes"". (The Eltingville Club comes to mind for some reason)
Hi Ed and Jim, love your channel. I was wondering if you'd consider checking out the comic book adaptations of Michael Moorcock's Elric stories by Roy Thomas and P. Craig Russell. Really beautiful books and I'd be keen to hear your opinions/insights.
These all sounded great on the bus in 5th grade, but in practice none of them ever grabbed me. Related, I've never read a Howard The Duck I enjoyed. I just don't get it.
Somebody seriously said that was *good?* Amalgam Comics in general seem to be an excuse to write a "What If" type story without having to come up with an ending. This one in particular is just yet another excuse to fuck up the characterization of Howard the Duck -- one in a long line that goes back to Bill Mantlo and George Lucas and has continued through everybody who has touched the character since Steve Gerber died, with one and only one exception. Stuart Moore, in both Deadpool the Duck of all things and Spider-Man: Back in Quack proved that he is the only living soul who understands Howard. The fact that he was the editor on Gerber's final Howard miniseries for Max comics and even noted the finale of that as being one of the greatest things he ever edited didn't surprise me when I learned it in the process of checking some things before posting this comment. What would surprise me is if Marvel ever gives him a regular stint on Howard since they've destroyed the character to the point that his take on it probably wouldn't make any sense to them...
Spiderboy Team Up with Ladronn art was a favorite of mine.
I've been curious about these Amalgam comics for so long, they're such a cool concept. I'm glad they are being reprinted later this year
Hold on now. Dr. Bongface is actually another callback to the original Howard the Duck comic from the 70's. One of his nefarious nemesises (nemeses? nemesi?) was the diabolical DOCTOR BONG!! One hand was a striker for his bell-shaped helmet to sound a knell of doom! Waaaaugh!!
It wasn’t til adulthood when I realized what his name actually meant. (I was a sheltered child in the 70s.)
Theres kind of a multilayer thing in this: Giffen created Lobo, and Ambush Bug, AND Lunatik. ok, hang on. Yeah Lunatik IS Lobo- Giffen created the character in hgh school and debuted him as a villian at marvel i the Defenders. He stars in one of the funniest comics ever - the one where the Defenders hold an open audition and everyone shows up and starts fighting. When Giffen goes to DC he took Lunatik with him and basically just transformed him into Lobo.
The Challengers of the Fantastic was by Karl Kesel and Tom Grummett, who previously did Adventures of Superman and Superboy together in the early 90s. Remember, a lot of the Amalgam books used existing teams at Marvel and DC at the time they were published (e.g. John Byrne did the Storm/WW mashup because he was on Wonder Woman at the time). Alan Grant was doing Lobo in the mid 90s which is why he's on this.
The dog is a mashup of Impossible Man and Lobo's Dawg.
These videos about the old Amalgam Comics are always so fun to watch.
Hi there. This one hits hard. Hearing Ed talking about 100000 subs by the end of the year brings atear to my eye . Let us get it . RIP ED. GREETINGS from Germany
Dr. Bong is Marvel. Great insight, but yeah, I'm going to miss many of the references here. Kinda deep dive Marvel/DC Mad Magazine type parody that I'm not up on enough to get all the jokes.
As a collector, I bought just about every Amalgam comic both years, except for X-Men related titles; that was a line of comics I avoided in the 90s. However I didn’t read a lot of them that I bought. I’ve been culling unwanted comics from my collection so maybe some of those need to go.
And Lunatik was a character Keith Giffen created in the 70s during his Defenders run; I always considered Lunatik a prototype for Lobo (there’s a slight resemblance between Giffen’s version of Lunatik and Lobo’s first time in Omega Men #3. Incorporating Lunatik into a Giffenverse style makes sense.)
And Gold Kidney Lady is obviously a take on Kidney Lady from Howard the Duck #12, the first issue I ever saw, in 1977. (That was the issue with the Kiss cameo on the last page.)
Kevin O'Neill makes Alan Grant's imp fixation work in his Bat-Mite stories: Legends of the Dark Knight #38 and Mitefall. Those would be worth a look.
Matt Howarth - Star Crossed ad for the win. 11:27 You need to take a look at his work some time. That 3 issue series was weird AF but super cool.
Dude this is genuinely my favorite TH-cam channel. You two are awesome. Do you ever attend conventions in the southeast? Dragoncon?
Re: GoldKidney Lady. The Kidney Lady was a Howard the Duck antagonist combined with some other DC character I can’t identify. But the Kidney Lady was nuts. She was the paranoid older woman who was convinced people were out to harvest her kidneys.
A DC online guide says the other half is Gold Star. I'm not sure who that is offhand.
Okay I looked again and to clarify that's the Lobo comics' male character Gold Star, though I would have thought given the lady aspect I would have thought that it would have been Booster Gold's sister Goldstar (one word). To make things more confusing they apparently changed the dude's name to (one word) Goldstar later on...
I got this in one of those multi packs that Toys R Us used to sell when I was a little kid. I remember being disturbed by him eating the guy.
have u looked at The Geek a 1993 DC Vertigo comic drawn by Mike Allred…related to the 60s DC comic? might be cool, art looks good…..
I own a page from this book. Page on the right 7:07
I still have the Bat-thing comic somewhere...
Now that we have admitted we are a cult, are we going the Aum Shinrikyo route, or Father Yod route? I'm down for either.
We often cite a myriad of reasons why comics plummeted in the 1990s: bad practices from publishers, speculation, trade cards, consolidation of the Diamond monopoly, video games, etc. But this video clarifies other major problem from that era: the increasingly insular and cryptic nature of commercial American comics, the obsession with inside jokes and the amalgamation of so-called "geek culture" that later became this fiasco we have today. Kids in the 2000s would rather read a manga series that's 40 tankôbons long than subject themselves to comics like this above, where you need to be a member of some secret society to understand 90% of the ""jokes"". (The Eltingville Club comes to mind for some reason)
ok, ok...is "unique" , still like it.
Hi Ed and Jim, love your channel. I was wondering if you'd consider checking out the comic book adaptations of Michael Moorcock's Elric stories by Roy Thomas and P. Craig Russell. Really beautiful books and I'd be keen to hear your opinions/insights.
In regards to the title, I didn't say anything.
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Id love to see you do wild cats 0 its brett booth’s first pro work
Any of these issues are better than 90% of the crap being produced today…..especially the art.
These all sounded great on the bus in 5th grade, but in practice none of them ever grabbed me. Related, I've never read a Howard The Duck I enjoyed. I just don't get it.
Who the hell demanded that, LOL
I liked speed demon
Somebody seriously said that was *good?* Amalgam Comics in general seem to be an excuse to write a "What If" type story without having to come up with an ending. This one in particular is just yet another excuse to fuck up the characterization of Howard the Duck -- one in a long line that goes back to Bill Mantlo and George Lucas and has continued through everybody who has touched the character since Steve Gerber died, with one and only one exception.
Stuart Moore, in both Deadpool the Duck of all things and Spider-Man: Back in Quack proved that he is the only living soul who understands Howard. The fact that he was the editor on Gerber's final Howard miniseries for Max comics and even noted the finale of that as being one of the greatest things he ever edited didn't surprise me when I learned it in the process of checking some things before posting this comment. What would surprise me is if Marvel ever gives him a regular stint on Howard since they've destroyed the character to the point that his take on it probably wouldn't make any sense to them...
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