Absolutely untrue. The bass player is Wayne Pedziwiatr and was one of Buddy's favorites! Wayne and I were friends back in our Berklee College of Music days and played quite a bit together. We were both members of the Berklee Funk Ensemble back in the mid 70's. Wayne was going to relocate and hook up with a band/management that I had signed with... but he was offered the BR gig. We all know which one he took! We stayed in touch, and again, Buddy LOVED Wayne's playing! Gone too soon, BOTH of them!
What a great bass player... that tone and attitude!! Bad-dass!! Of course Buddy is top notch, but that bassist brings a lot to the song. Pleasant surprise was the piano solo towards the end... very nice cap.
Hands down the greatest drummer ever there are no comparisons buddy owned his drum throne others tried but fell short rich not only technical but his ideas and mind boggling phrases made him one of a kind
First time I ever saw him, I got to the club two hours early and had a front row table to myself, about 10' from the stage at the same angle as the shot at 0:10. What a night.
When I first saw Buddy playing, I went to that concert together with a very experienced studio drummer. During the concert I noticed tears of emotion on the face of this friend, and after the show he said to me "Today God appeared to me!".
What a joy is was to take my father ( big fan and wanna be drummer), to see this same band and sit up front. Bass drum knocking us over and pounding our chests. Best band ever!!!
It's obvious Buddy had a rapport with the bassist, and respected his immense talent and creativity. He was an extremely well-regarded musician of the highest stature in the industry, I'm not sure enough on this site are aware of that fact.
Wow, I never had the chance to see Wayne play. This made my night. I’m not usually a fan of slapping but he made it work here. Very different than Tom Warrington or Jaco’s take on it.
I saw this band in Dallas about a year before this recording. This song blew me away! I snuck in a cassette recorder of the performance. He actually hit the Syndrum during the number. Thanks for the post!
This is possibly the best Buddy Rich band performance I’ve seen, second only to his appearance on the Michael Parkinson show performing the Beatles ‘Norwegian Wood’ Great bass guitarist, fantastic sounding Ludwigs and even a Syndrum electronic drum mounted above the floor tom!
@@alcyone9361 The problem with the Luddys was QA. If you got a good set,they were as good a sounding drum as you'll ever hear. Unfortunately there were some clunkers in the mix. And don't get me started on the chrome plating on their supras. I bought a Ludwig Carl Palmer Venus snare a few years ago and how it ever made it into the channel was beyond me. PeeUUU!
@@cpu554 I've owned a set of Ludwigs since 1971 and a matching set of Rogers since 1977. The Rogers are 1" smaller toms and 2" smaller bass. Both sets are "Champagne Sparkle" but I use Ludwig snares, one standard and a Super Sensitive that had belonged to the Omaha symphony orchestra. Drug it in and out of bars every week end for 20 years and the chrome is still 100%. Set them up with two Speed King foot peddles and throw in Zildjan cymbals from 12" high hats, 14", 15", 16" fast crashes, 18" medium ride and 22" heavy ride. I've owned my 18" medium ride since 1962 and my 22" heavy ride since 1965. Sadly I don't play any longer and have no room to set up just to mess around. Gave the Rogers set to my grandson but he has no interest in playing. :-(((
The arrangement is heavily drawn from Joe Zwandle's from the Heavy Weather album (1977) - with the Great Jaco Pastorius on bass. My bass teacher actually made the bass-line from this part of my teach-tunes (right after Bodisapha). Jaco played the opening riffs on harmonics. Gotta say I like Wayne Pedziwiatr's selection of techniques to get the sounds he wanted!!
Buddy didn't particularly find the Syndrum useful in his music, but we included it in his onstage setup as a gesture of thanks to the company that gave it to him. He would occasionally give it a whack.
I think 100 of the 300 views are mine! This clip is really a GEM from one of the high points of the Buddy Rich Band. All of the elements of that colossal band are here - Bob Mintzer, the extraordinary arranger, Steve Marcus, one of the most under-rated and phenomenal axe men in jazz, and Wayne Pedziwiater, a bassist who truly transcended. This was the band which inspired my own career in music and continues to feed my soul to this day. Thank you! Screw the lawyers - more please!
Saw Buddy Rich & The Killer Force at Granny's Dinner Playhouse in Dallas.. on a Wednesday night and then, again on the following Saturday evening at Richland College.. in 1978 ... and they kicked ass both dates. This guy on Soprano sax was his lead sax-player.. playing alto (I think).
Thanks, Bruno! I only recently discovered Buddy Rich via Spotify. I searched for 'Birdland', enjoyed the original as planned, then it came up with his. I think I prefer his version to the original! haha The only thing, though, on the studio recording he uses a keyboardist instead of pianist, and the synthesizer work is insane: open.spotify.com/track/6i7BrJ729QLUemr0i4rLU2?si=Si_RZxVfQwKx6_EecYdFUA
Great posting Bruno, thank you. This is definately my all time favourite line-up of the band. And 'Man From Planet Jazz' is one of the greatest live big band recordings ever !!
Bruno--thanks for posting! Great to see these again in decent quality. I hope those lawyers leave you alone (I am one, but I still play trumpet too) so we can see more. Cheers
Now It's really debatable on which one is the better version of buddy rich birdland. This or the one at the Hague. For now I'm going to with the hauge.
@airsafety66 I love watching the interaction between Buddy and Wayne. Buddy was notoriously hard on his bass players, but Wayne was clearly "in the groove" and Buddy loved it. Having followed Dave Carpenter, Wayne had some big shoes to fill. Not only did he fill them, Wayne blew them out another size or two, making his successors miserable in the following incarnations of the band. Look at some of the later BRB videos and you'll see what I mean. RIP Buddy, Steve, and Wayne. You were the best!
Wayne Pedzwater...he seemed to have the rhythmic acuity of Buddy. He could really split hairs with the beat. He locked in with Buddy in that precision and expressiveness that that is beyond just being a professional musician. It seemed like Buddy found..."someone to play with..." and he seemed delighted.
@airsafety66 One last comment- take a look at that Fender Jazz Bass that Wayne is playing. It has a mismatched tan pickup in front of the bridge - instantly recognizable and unique. You'll find other videos of Wayne here, and in particular one with Blood Sweat & Tears where he makes that guitar SING! Almost makes me want to go track down the same pickup and throw it on my bass! Wayne was one of a kind, as were many of the great members of the Buddy Rich Band.
At 1:22, I just noticed these two in the front. What's with the looks they are giving each other anyway. Doesn't look like they are being respectful. like, "we aren't being paid enough for this."
As far as I know the Pad's name is a "Syndrum". I went to two of Buddy's concerts where he had this Pad as part of his whole Drumset - but he never hit it during those two shows... ;-)
Right on! Many of the original big band recordings were one mike having over the band running to a tape recorder. A close friend of mine Bob Bowlby played Alto and I think Bari in that band the last for years of Buddy's life. We knew each other since I was a teen ager and he was in his early 20's, he came on the band just after this. Many years later we hooked up with the Artie Shaw Orchestra, Artie was still living and available to guest conduct if the money was huge. However, we had a few new things written for the band but not much, we played the hit's every night. And Dick Johnson was the leader (A monster be bop alto player but also a serious clarinet player who had to play Artie's solo's verbatim every night). It's like those cat's who re-enact the Civil War every year. But Bob is a very nice cat (working with the Boston Pop's today) and if you need any answers to these types of questions. You can be-friend me on face book and I'll send you to Bob. Today they can, to a certain extent remix certain things, but I guarantee Buddy wanted it that way, despite the recording. But if you're a big Buddy fan, Bob's one of the nicest cat's in the world and has an encyclopedic mind so if you want any questions asked or confirmed I'd be happy to hook you up with Bob. I remember calling him up because I heard a piano player that Buddy gave solo space to (Barry Kiner) sp? and I really dug his solo rendition of "Bewitched..." He's just a great cat if you ever want any info from that time period. All the Best, Joe Delaney
One of the best versions of this Mike Abene arr. Rhythm section: the late great Wayne Pedziwater on bass. Ernie Vantrese-paiano. Vantrese replaced Barry Keiner, who woud return before his tragic death in '86
This is another video where Buddy has that small round ( 6-8 inches ) object on the right side of the kit. It has a wire going to it so is it a electronic drum pad of some sort or some kind of mic. Some vids of this time period it is there and some it is not. Never see him strike it if it's a drum, anybody know.
My impression was that with a great band Buddy seemed to levitate with the band, whereas with an inferior band he often overplayed to get something out of it. Thats when you really see him get pissed off-when he had to push the hell out of the group to get something musical to his ears. His last pianist made a similar remark on the "Buddy Up Close" video. Buddy hit an accent that told everybody where the hell the accent should be and how loud. Maybe that's why he kept getting bigger bass drums😆
@erzug I don't think that there will be another upload from this Buddy Rich concert. Sorry folks, I've received a TH-cam message which says that I have to be careful because the content of those clips could be a violation of copyrights. I don't want to receive letters from any high-paid lawyers. I know that the main artist here has passed away many years ago, and the copyrights of this material belong to a german TV station, but ... please understand, that I try to avoid any problems.
All great musicians on stage. How anyone can say that the bassist is no good is beyond me. If Buddy Rich thought they were no good, they were would be out quicker than that. I only wish that there was more Buddy Rich Live on CD than there is. One thing does puzzle me though, why did Bob Coassin who is lead trumpet (I think) on this video leave the Buddy Rich Big Band and join the James Last Orchestra. None of Last's orchestra's played any proper jazz and only had two saxes. He couldn't have gone to further his experience surely. Playing for Buddy Rich was infinitely more demanding on the musicians talent than [playing for James Last after all
I think you answered your own question. Bob Coassin played lead trumpet in Stan Kenton's last band and then came onto Buddy's band for a year or so. So he played two of the most demanding lead trumpet books in jazz (arguably THE most demanding). No need to prove yourself after that! No doubt he needed a break and no doubt James Last paid more.
Notice how good his drums sound in concert ,compared to the rubbish he was given sometimes on the tonight shows, which were just bought in for Buddy for the night.
Today drummers use thousands of microphones, and it doesn't sound any better than the few microphones Buddy had around his drumkit in the seventies or eighties.
I don't think it's fair the shit on the bassist. Although he sounded absolutely NOTHING like Jaco, who can? He was great his own way, which was less harmonic and spare like the original but more funky and busy. At least to me both ways sound great.
Why are all you cat's cutting the bass player? The original tune was a statement in music that bass has finally emerged as an equal voice as long as you lay down the bottom, you can play the cracks if you don't blatantly step on anybody. I apologize for not knowing the bass player, but he did fine. I don't think the slap thing was his main bag, but I think his instructions were to play aggressive bravado in your face bass. From a compositional standpoint and as much as I respect and dig Joe Z, this really aint even a composition, it's basically an extended turn around with an interlude built on, I think it sounds like a G but the bass gets to play the deceptive harmonies which at the time was very new. Despite that I'm happy as hell WR made AM radio airwave's and Buddy's band covering it was merely a nice gesture to help support jazz musicians who were making it on AM radio. I think the turn around was initially a concept for a closing 'theme', you always want the audience to walk out of a concert whistling a simple 'theme', hip Brazilian bands have been doing it forever. WR could have been playing "Swanee River" and as long as it hit pop radio the unique musicianship would still have been applaudable. Finally, Buddy I'm sure didn't want to cover this tune, it was a jazz pop hit, and he just as surviving jazz icon and really one of the only Jazz big bands in existence with an authentic Legend at the helm that still had potential to draw large crowds and the freedom to play new arrangements, rather than bring the audience back to a nostalgic big band era, Buddy was just showing the audience that he could still hang with anything pop jazz could bring on. It was a statement period! and the bass player was doing what he was asked to do, crank it up and give me some of this modern bass sound that everybody's talking about. When this was recorded, (Jaco) a bassist was the talk of the jazz industry and this was merely a response for Buddy to show he was hip to what was really going on. I'm sure he would have musically rather have played something like WR "Elegant People" but you have to make sacrifices to make a living. The glance between Buddy and the bassist is more like "do you believe this shit we have to do to put on a show"! Buddy even had the trumpet section on percussion.
+joe delaney When this tune was released on LP it was a "direct-to-disc-recording". The whole band played it only once, without the possibility to do any corrections or overdubs afterwards. Who can do that whith a 17 piece band today in a studio recording? From my point of view it was a great work!
+george nolte ; The first time I saw Buddy, he kept telling the bass player to turn it up. For good reason, he was playing electric bass and I couldn't hear one note of it, and I was very close. I don't feel sorry for that guy, he was a kid, and had no business there whatsoever.
+Bruno Kassel The album was Class of '78. Harry James recorded two big band albums in a church with ONE stereo microphone. www.prweb.com/releases/2013/12/prweb11385930.htm
+george nolte I've seen Buddy pissed this isn't pissed. At a concert at el Camino Jr. college in California, the last number of the first set was a trio version of La Fiesta. The student working the spot light was four or five bars behind each soloist, including Buddy. Rich kept pointing a stick at the soloist that should have had the spot on him and made a throat cutting motion when the spot was on him during the piano solo. When the tune was over, the house lights came on and the audience started to head out for intermission. Buddy grabbed a microphone and announced he wanted to apologize. We all froze. Everybody. Buddy's going to apologize? "I want to apologize for the idiot trying to work the lights. He ruined a great performance. He has no business in show business and I'm gonna make sure he never gets a real job......" Then there was the time Buddy fired a trumpet player during a gig at Disneyland with some colorful language. Disney attorneys pointed out the morals clause in their contract and Buddy apologized to the audience.
As a professional drummer myself, I consider Buddy to have been the best drummer this world has ever known . Now that he's gone, I consider Dylan Elise to be our best & he's SO YOUNG ! ! ! IMHO . . .
Look at the Jacksoville Jazz concert and B is clearly pissed at the bass player who wasn't keeping up. I think I read Buddy hated it when the tune dragged-the direct result of a bad rhythm section...seen him at Disneyland chew on numerous bass players as well as trumpeters. He always seemed to be yelling at the trumpet section😎
Oh, there's just this one little gripe I've had for decades that commercial music bands have fooled music fans all over the world for centuries, it is not the vocalist that needs to be upfront. This is how I understand music to be, and I would like to use the analogy of building a house, the foundations are the drum and bass, they need to be upfront on stage, the vocalist is merely the translation of raw music to plain English, he/she needs to be behind the drums and bass, then the lead guitarist, piano/keyboards who applies the finishing touches to be behind the vocalist, and then wherever they see fit is the all encompassing percussion set. That to me, would be the ultimate band set up? I've only ever seen it twice in my life, Buddy Rich and Booker T & The MGs
Not originally a Jaco tune man. He doesn't need to be him, Jaco did the horn line while keys handled what we heard this bassist play during the intro. Plus they're just different players, ever seen Jaco start thumping?
@@PatriotSteve Not a gimmick man. Just a different sound. You don't take My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion and Four Hoursemen by Metallica and call one definitively better than the other. You can enjoy one over the other, but they both have merit and appeal. I'm saying when viewing different bassists, musicians, and even whole songs and generations of music, try to view more on individual merit, and the music itself. Not how someone else did it and how they compare. That ends up making music elitism, and can suck the joy out of it. Hence why some people don't think any music made today is up to snuff with something made in the 70s or 80s.
+Twan Back then the gig paid between 250 and 500, depending how important and irreplaceable you were to the band. They worked in that period over 300 nights per week. It was like master class to some of those cats. And I know and run in to and play with allot of the Boston guy's. Plus you have to pay about 20 bucks each to split a hotel room. It's tough, then 500 miles on the bus to the next gig. These kids are busting their asses and paying their due's. Some of these cats' grew up to be giant players. It's like watching a baseball game, you forget were watching kids play ball.
The bass player is playing his fanny off and Buddy's looks at him show his approval. However, the bass track is recorded WAY too loud and really does spoil the cut unfortunately.
+Chris H. , Too be honest with you, every guy on that bandstand is a great musician. I find this corny 35 years later. It was a pop jazz show piece of the era. Just skip over the tune. If you detest the bass player so much, trow the frigging album away!
Really annoying bass player. Awful. Wrong notes played with gusto. Bad sound on the instrument as well. Otherwise, great Steve Marcus solo-one of the few really good soloists Buddy had. The band is amazingly tight as Buddy’s bands always are.
As a bassist, I will concede that his tone was a bit harsh, but wrong notes? Even Buddy turns back at one point and smiles at the variations he added! Check the 78 version at the Holland Jazz show... He literally "jazzed it up" from that version lol
One of the best versions of this Mike Abene arr. Rhythm section: the late great Wayne Pedziwater on bass. Ernie Vantrese-paiano. Vantrese replaced Barry Keiner, who woud return before his tragic death in '86
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Absolutely untrue. The bass player is Wayne Pedziwiatr and was one of Buddy's favorites! Wayne and I were friends back in our Berklee College of Music days and played quite a bit together. We were both members of the Berklee Funk Ensemble back in the mid 70's. Wayne was going to relocate and hook up with a band/management that I had signed with... but he was offered the BR gig. We all know which one he took! We stayed in touch, and again, Buddy LOVED Wayne's playing! Gone too soon, BOTH of them!
did he have a good career after the BR band? or did he pass before he got much of a chance to?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Pedzwater
BS&T also.
buddys face at 5:03 to 5:06, you can tell hes really feeling the groove and in sync with the bass player, and enjoyed the flourishes he added! :)
What a great bass player... that tone and attitude!! Bad-dass!!
Of course Buddy is top notch, but that bassist brings a lot to the song.
Pleasant surprise was the piano solo towards the end... very nice cap.
The Bassist is amazing I don't know how but it he makes it like a bass and a guitar at the same time!
It is a guitar. In this guy’s case a badly played bass guitar.
Hands down the greatest drummer ever there are no comparisons buddy owned his drum throne others tried but fell short rich not only technical but his ideas and mind boggling phrases made him one of a kind
First time I ever saw him, I got to the club two hours early and had a front row table to myself, about 10' from the stage at the same angle as the shot at 0:10. What a night.
When I first saw Buddy playing, I went to that concert together with a very experienced studio drummer. During the concert I noticed tears of emotion on the face of this friend, and after the show he said to me "Today God appeared to me!".
What a joy is was to take my father ( big fan and wanna be drummer), to see this same band and sit up front. Bass drum knocking us over and pounding our chests. Best band ever!!!
Just great!
It is debatable if there will ever be another like Buddy.
never
Never
Never
Greyson Nekrutman? (Prolly never tho)
Fantastic version and love that bass guitar and what a soprano solo
It's obvious Buddy had a rapport with the bassist, and respected his immense talent and creativity. He was an extremely well-regarded musician of the highest stature in the industry, I'm not sure enough on this site are aware of that fact.
It us glaringly obvious .
Bassist Wayne Pedzwatr.
Wow, I never had the chance to see Wayne play. This made my night. I’m not usually a fan of slapping but he made it work here. Very different than Tom Warrington or Jaco’s take on it.
@@mrufino1 Jaco's live take is still way better.. The harmonics and sound his bass has is just insane. And Jaco could just swing like no one else.
@@JonHop1 the competition doesn’t matter to me, they’re different and both have their place.
That glance of approval @ 5.06, priceless ! ! !
I saw this band in Dallas about a year before this recording. This song blew me away! I snuck in a cassette recorder of the performance. He actually hit the Syndrum during the number. Thanks for the post!
Wayne was one of the few players who seemed to get Buddys time feel.
This is possibly the best Buddy Rich band performance I’ve seen, second only to his appearance on the Michael Parkinson show performing the Beatles ‘Norwegian Wood’ Great bass guitarist, fantastic sounding Ludwigs and even a Syndrum electronic drum mounted above the floor tom!
Some may disagree, but I think those Ludwigs sound great here, especially the floor tom.
Ludwigs ALWAYS sound great if you know how to tune them.
@@alcyone9361 The problem with the Luddys was QA.
If you got a good set,they were as good a sounding drum as you'll ever hear.
Unfortunately there were some clunkers in the mix.
And don't get me started on the chrome plating on their supras.
I bought a Ludwig Carl Palmer Venus snare a few years ago and how it ever made it into the channel was beyond me.
PeeUUU!
@@cpu554 I've owned a set of Ludwigs since 1971 and a matching set of Rogers since 1977. The Rogers are 1" smaller toms and 2" smaller bass. Both sets are "Champagne Sparkle" but I use Ludwig snares, one standard and a Super Sensitive that had belonged to the Omaha symphony orchestra. Drug it in and out of bars every week end for 20 years and the chrome is still 100%.
Set them up with two Speed King foot peddles and throw in Zildjan cymbals from 12" high hats, 14", 15", 16" fast crashes, 18" medium ride and 22" heavy ride. I've owned my 18" medium ride since 1962 and my 22" heavy ride since 1965.
Sadly I don't play any longer and have no room to set up just to mess around. Gave the Rogers set to my grandson but he has no interest in playing. :-(((
Steve Marcus!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marcus was SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD. I miss talking with him soooooo much
Steve Marcus was basically the one great soloist Buddy ever hired. Well, Bobby Shew also, but he wasn’t on the band nearly as long as Steve.
This is absolutely Stunning
The arrangement is heavily drawn from Joe Zwandle's from the Heavy Weather album (1977) - with the Great Jaco Pastorius on bass. My bass teacher actually made the bass-line from this part of my teach-tunes (right after Bodisapha). Jaco played the opening riffs on harmonics. Gotta say I like Wayne Pedziwiatr's selection of techniques to get the sounds he wanted!!
Bruno,
Thanks for responding to our requests for MORE from this concert. ;-)
Buddy didn't particularly find the Syndrum useful in his music, but we included it in his onstage setup as a gesture of thanks to the company that gave it to him. He would occasionally give it a whack.
A band of monsters. Legend.
Great quality picture..👍🏿
Thanks!
Don't try to imitate him, because Buddy is inimitable... He will remain the greatest of all!!
I think 100 of the 300 views are mine! This clip is really a GEM from one of the high points of the Buddy Rich Band. All of the elements of that colossal band are here - Bob Mintzer, the extraordinary arranger, Steve Marcus, one of the most under-rated and phenomenal axe men in jazz, and Wayne Pedziwiater, a bassist who truly transcended. This was the band which inspired my own career in music and continues to feed my soul to this day. Thank you! Screw the lawyers - more please!
The look Buddy shot his bass player @ 5:13: PRICELESS ! ! !
...5:02
Riiiight, thanks ! ! ! Are you a musician ?
yeah, i am! do you play drums or another instrument. I play drums.
Ike Ukazu Yes Ike, I play drums too. I got to hear Buddy live in '83, a VERY good year. Sucks how our BEST musicians got to go
You then have to be one of the most fortunate people living today. Wow. Do you play in band currently?
Fantastic bass!
That 26" bass he played in his final years sounded awesome!
Steve Marcus .
Bruno, many thanks for this great upload, and for all your great work. I especially hope they leave this one up forever.
Most definitely, the best thing that ever happened to a drum set! Well put!!
Saw Buddy Rich & The Killer Force at Granny's Dinner Playhouse in Dallas.. on a Wednesday night and then, again on the following Saturday evening at Richland College.. in 1978 ... and they kicked ass both dates. This guy on Soprano sax was his lead sax-player.. playing alto (I think).
That's Steve Marcus. He's amazing.
1978 may have been Buddy's best band.
The cabasa really ties the room together
Thanks for sharing. So good!
There is a second tune from that concert here on TH-cam:
th-cam.com/video/4o4zjM0pgWk/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, Bruno! I only recently discovered Buddy Rich via Spotify. I searched for 'Birdland', enjoyed the original as planned, then it came up with his. I think I prefer his version to the original! haha The only thing, though, on the studio recording he uses a keyboardist instead of pianist, and the synthesizer work is insane: open.spotify.com/track/6i7BrJ729QLUemr0i4rLU2?si=Si_RZxVfQwKx6_EecYdFUA
Some of the best pitch-bending I've heard (it's at the end of track). Just amazing. (I'm an ex pianist and bassist).
It seems that you are not a typical pianist / bassist, because they usually are not interested in drums or Drummers at all. 😉
Oh man, any good pianist should be! Drums/bass/piano --all percussive instruments (technically) according to classification!
Great posting Bruno, thank you.
This is definately my all time favourite line-up of the band. And 'Man From Planet Jazz' is one of the greatest live big band recordings ever !!
its like owning the DVD.!! finally.!!
Bruno--thanks for posting! Great to see these again in decent quality. I hope those lawyers leave you alone (I am one, but I still play trumpet too) so we can see more. Cheers
Phenomenal ! ! !
Now It's really debatable on which one is the better version of buddy rich birdland. This or the one at the Hague. For now I'm going to with the hauge.
@airsafety66 I love watching the interaction between Buddy and Wayne. Buddy was notoriously hard on his bass players, but Wayne was clearly "in the groove" and Buddy loved it. Having followed Dave Carpenter, Wayne had some big shoes to fill. Not only did he fill them, Wayne blew them out another size or two, making his successors miserable in the following incarnations of the band. Look at some of the later BRB videos and you'll see what I mean. RIP Buddy, Steve, and Wayne. You were the best!
Wayne Pedzwater...he seemed to have the rhythmic acuity of Buddy. He could really split hairs with the beat. He locked in with Buddy in that precision and expressiveness that that is beyond just being a professional musician. It seemed like Buddy found..."someone to play with..." and he seemed delighted.
Carpenter came after Wayne
@airsafety66 One last comment- take a look at that Fender Jazz Bass that Wayne is playing. It has a mismatched tan pickup in front of the bridge - instantly recognizable and unique. You'll find other videos of Wayne here, and in particular one with Blood Sweat & Tears where he makes that guitar SING! Almost makes me want to go track down the same pickup and throw it on my bass! Wayne was one of a kind, as were many of the great members of the Buddy Rich Band.
Groovy!
At 1:22, I just noticed these two in the front. What's with the looks they are giving each other anyway. Doesn't look like they are being respectful. like, "we aren't being paid enough for this."
Marcus!!!!!!!
マリンピア黒井ジャズフェスティバルですね。客席にいました。シャープスアンドフラッツ、スタンリー・タレンタイン、ゲイリーバートン、錚々たる出演者の後、トリがステップスアヘッドでした。ブレッカーのEWIのトラブルで演奏開始が1時間遅れたんですよ。その間、客を退屈させない心遣いで、マイク・スターンがConfiamationを突然弾きだして客席爆盛り上がりだった記憶があります。後、ダリル・ジョーンズが（今と違って😁）スリムでやたらかっこよかった😂
Pedizwatr was a superb bassist,though I do have asoft spot for Mike Boone,
Another beautiful post, Bruno. Thank you so much for these high-quality versions!
took a while but you finally see a brother in his band
Is he your brother?
so fine
GOD
As far as I know the Pad's name is a "Syndrum". I went to two of Buddy's concerts where he had this Pad as part of his whole Drumset - but he never hit it during those two shows... ;-)
I had one of those Syndrums and it was a piece of crap. Maybe Buddy got paid to add it to his set, I don't blame him for not playing it.
Right on! Many of the original big band recordings were one mike having over the band running to a tape recorder. A close friend of mine Bob Bowlby played Alto and I think Bari in that band the last for years of Buddy's life. We knew each other since I was a teen ager and he was in his early 20's, he came on the band just after this. Many years later we hooked up with the Artie Shaw Orchestra, Artie was still living and available to guest conduct if the money was huge. However, we had a few new things written for the band but not much, we played the hit's every night. And Dick Johnson was the leader (A monster be bop alto player but also a serious clarinet player who had to play Artie's solo's verbatim every night). It's like those cat's who re-enact the Civil War every year. But Bob is a very nice cat (working with the Boston Pop's today) and if you need any answers to these types of questions. You can be-friend me on face book and I'll send you to Bob. Today they can, to a certain extent remix certain things, but I guarantee Buddy wanted it that way, despite the recording. But if you're a big Buddy fan, Bob's one of the nicest cat's in the world and has an encyclopedic mind so if you want any questions asked or confirmed I'd be happy to hook you up with Bob. I remember calling him up because I heard a piano player that Buddy gave solo space to (Barry Kiner) sp? and I really dug his solo rendition of "Bewitched..." He's just a great cat if you ever want any info from that time period. All the Best, Joe Delaney
GODS
seems like he’s still using LM410. Just before changing to LB554 I guess
Put it in 2x speed for and you can feel it in 6/8
One of the best versions of this Mike Abene arr.
Rhythm section: the late great Wayne Pedziwater on bass. Ernie Vantrese-paiano. Vantrese replaced Barry Keiner, who woud return before his tragic death in '86
This is another video where Buddy has that small round ( 6-8 inches ) object on the right side of the kit. It has a wire going to it so is it a electronic drum pad of some sort or some kind of mic. Some vids of this time period it is there and some it is not. Never see him strike it if it's a drum, anybody know.
I wonder if the swish cymbal he’s using his low pitch
Could this have been the reason for the bus tapes? On that tape he does yell about bending and new techniques and sounds.
My impression was that with a great band Buddy seemed to levitate with the band, whereas with an inferior band he often overplayed to get something out of it. Thats when you really see him get pissed off-when he had to push the hell out of the group to get something musical to his ears. His last pianist made a similar remark on the "Buddy Up Close" video. Buddy hit an accent that told everybody where the hell the accent should be and how loud. Maybe that's why he kept getting bigger bass drums😆
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@erzug I don't think that there will be another upload from this Buddy Rich concert. Sorry folks, I've received a TH-cam message which says that I have to be careful because the content of those clips could be a violation of copyrights. I don't want to receive letters from any high-paid lawyers. I know that the main artist here has passed away many years ago, and the copyrights of this material belong to a german TV station, but ... please understand, that I try to avoid any problems.
All great musicians on stage. How anyone can say that the bassist is no good is beyond me. If Buddy Rich thought they were no good, they were would be out quicker than that. I only wish that there was more Buddy Rich Live on CD than there is. One thing does puzzle me though, why did Bob Coassin who is lead trumpet (I think) on this video leave the Buddy Rich Big Band and join the James Last Orchestra. None of Last's orchestra's played any proper jazz and only had two saxes. He couldn't have gone to further his experience surely. Playing for Buddy Rich was infinitely more demanding on the musicians talent than [playing for James Last after all
I think you answered your own question. Bob Coassin played lead trumpet in Stan Kenton's last band and then came onto Buddy's band for a year or so. So he played two of the most demanding lead trumpet books in jazz (arguably THE most demanding). No need to prove yourself after that! No doubt he needed a break and no doubt James Last paid more.
Buddy was wrong sometimes. Was every chart he played brilliant? He recorded some crappy charts in the late 60’s. He was a great drummer, not God.
Notice how good his drums sound in concert ,compared to the rubbish he was given sometimes on the tonight shows, which were just bought in for Buddy for the night.
Today drummers use thousands of microphones, and it doesn't sound any better than the few microphones Buddy had around his drumkit in the seventies or eighties.
i think buddy was using the ludwig his modle the 15A
I don't think it's fair the shit on the bassist. Although he sounded absolutely NOTHING like Jaco, who can? He was great his own way, which was less harmonic and spare like the original but more funky and busy. At least to me both ways sound great.
So it must be a different Wayne Pedziwatr playing bass on 'Man From Planet Jazz' on March 21 & 22nd ?? !!
Same. This show and the Man From Planet Jazz recording were done on the same tour. A great time playing with this band.
Why are all you cat's cutting the bass player? The original tune was a statement in music that bass has finally emerged as an equal voice as long as you lay down the bottom, you can play the cracks if you don't blatantly step on anybody. I apologize for not knowing the bass player, but he did fine. I don't think the slap thing was his main bag, but I think his instructions were to play aggressive bravado in your face bass. From a compositional standpoint and as much as I respect and dig Joe Z, this really aint even a composition, it's basically an extended turn around with an interlude built on, I think it sounds like a G but the bass gets to play the deceptive harmonies which at the time was very new. Despite that I'm happy as hell WR made AM radio airwave's and Buddy's band covering it was merely a nice gesture to help support jazz musicians who were making it on AM radio. I think the turn around was initially a concept for a closing 'theme', you always want the audience to walk out of a concert whistling a simple 'theme', hip Brazilian bands have been doing it forever. WR could have been playing "Swanee River" and as long as it hit pop radio the unique musicianship would still have been applaudable. Finally, Buddy I'm sure didn't want to cover this tune, it was a jazz pop hit, and he just as surviving jazz icon and really one of the only Jazz big bands in existence with an authentic Legend at the helm that still had potential to draw large crowds and the freedom to play new arrangements, rather than bring the audience back to a nostalgic big band era, Buddy was just showing the audience that he could still hang with anything pop jazz could bring on. It was a statement period! and the bass player was doing what he was asked to do, crank it up and give me some of this modern bass sound that everybody's talking about. When this was recorded, (Jaco) a bassist was the talk of the jazz industry and this was merely a response for Buddy to show he was hip to what was really going on. I'm sure he would have musically rather have played something like WR "Elegant People" but you have to make sacrifices to make a living. The glance between Buddy and the bassist is more like "do you believe this
shit we have to do to put on a show"! Buddy even had the trumpet section on percussion.
+joe delaney When this tune was released on LP it was a "direct-to-disc-recording". The whole band played it only once, without the possibility to do any corrections or overdubs afterwards. Who can do that whith a 17 piece band today in a studio recording? From my point of view it was a great work!
+george nolte ; The first time I saw Buddy, he kept telling the bass player to turn it up. For good reason, he was playing electric bass and I couldn't hear one note of it, and I was very close. I don't feel sorry for that guy, he was a kid, and had no business there whatsoever.
+Bruno Kassel The album was Class of '78. Harry James recorded two big band albums in a church with ONE stereo microphone. www.prweb.com/releases/2013/12/prweb11385930.htm
+george nolte I've seen Buddy pissed this isn't pissed. At a concert at el Camino Jr. college in California, the last number of the first set was a trio version of La Fiesta. The student working the spot light was four or five bars behind each soloist, including Buddy. Rich kept pointing a stick at the soloist that should have had the spot on him and made a throat cutting motion when the spot was on him during the piano solo.
When the tune was over, the house lights came on and the audience started to head out for intermission. Buddy grabbed a microphone and announced he wanted to apologize. We all froze. Everybody. Buddy's going to apologize? "I want to apologize for the idiot trying to work the lights. He ruined a great performance. He has no business in show business and I'm gonna make sure he never gets a real job......"
Then there was the time Buddy fired a trumpet player during a gig at Disneyland with some colorful language. Disney attorneys pointed out the morals clause in their contract and Buddy apologized to the audience.
Larry Smith ; I don't doubt that for one second.
I didn't know Weird Al played bass.
nice one.
The bassist is the late great Wayne Pedzwatr, who Buddy loved!
Probably wasn't allowed to bring his accordion.
As a professional drummer myself, I consider Buddy to have been the best drummer this world has ever known . Now that he's gone, I consider Dylan Elise to be our best & he's SO YOUNG ! ! !
IMHO . . .
Look at the Jacksoville Jazz concert and B is clearly pissed at the bass player who wasn't keeping up. I think I read Buddy hated it when the tune dragged-the direct result of a bad rhythm section...seen him at Disneyland chew on numerous bass players as well as trumpeters. He always seemed to be yelling at the trumpet section😎
He would fire people during the first break.
1:22 is the bass trombonist tuning in the middle of the performance??
Yo Mike... a lil young for this band I'd say!
Having heard this first, and Chad Smiths second I have to say Smiths sounds (not just quality of sound-wise) a lot better ... but thats just me
Oh, there's just this one little gripe I've had for decades that commercial music bands have fooled music fans all over the world for centuries, it is not the vocalist that needs to be upfront. This is how I understand music to be, and I would like to use the analogy of building a house, the foundations are the drum and bass, they need to be upfront on stage, the vocalist is merely the translation of raw music to plain English, he/she needs to be behind the drums and bass, then the lead guitarist, piano/keyboards who applies the finishing touches to be behind the vocalist, and then wherever they see fit is the all encompassing percussion set. That to me, would be the ultimate band set up? I've only ever seen it twice in my life, Buddy Rich and Booker T & The MGs
What, you gotta be jokin' surely ?? !!
The Jaco intro was horrible. But then again... he was filling Jaco’s shoes.
Not originally a Jaco tune man. He doesn't need to be him, Jaco did the horn line while keys handled what we heard this bassist play during the intro. Plus they're just different players, ever seen Jaco start thumping?
Plazmatic no, never saw Jaco slap a bass. He didn’t need gimmicks.
@@PatriotSteve Not a gimmick man. Just a different sound. You don't take My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion and Four Hoursemen by Metallica and call one definitively better than the other. You can enjoy one over the other, but they both have merit and appeal. I'm saying when viewing different bassists, musicians, and even whole songs and generations of music, try to view more on individual merit, and the music itself. Not how someone else did it and how they compare. That ends up making music elitism, and can suck the joy out of it. Hence why some people don't think any music made today is up to snuff with something made in the 70s or 80s.
Half the brass section looks half Buddy's age hahahahaha.
+Twan Back then the gig paid between 250 and 500, depending how important and irreplaceable you were to the band. They worked in that period over 300 nights per week. It was like master class to some of those cats. And I know and run in to and play with allot of the Boston guy's. Plus you have to pay about 20 bucks each to split a hotel room. It's tough, then 500 miles on the bus to the next gig. These kids are busting their asses and paying their due's. Some of these cats' grew up to be giant players. It's like watching a baseball game, you forget were watching kids play ball.
+joe delaney "300 nights per week"? - WOW!!!
haha, oops, over 300 per year
+joe delaney I was just commenting on how prolific Buddy was until he passed haha.
Your observation is exactly correct >>> Master Class and a damn good reference in a guy's resume' .
why does this sound like such a mess
Because you need to contact your ear specialist :-)
Басист какой-то лажовый. Уоррингтон в Гааге`78 играл нормально.
The bass man's interpretation seemed to irritate Mr. Rich. I'm a bass guy and I could tell that he was pushing the limits!
rocknrollscientist lol no.
I actually agree with you.
the most irritating bass player I have ever heard... pissed me off...
Why?
The bass player is playing his fanny off and Buddy's looks at him show his approval. However, the bass track is recorded WAY too loud and really does spoil the cut unfortunately.
Chris H. Lol. You would have hated Jaco Pastorius.
+Chris H. , Too be honest with you, every guy on that bandstand is a great musician. I find this corny 35 years later. It was a pop jazz show piece of the era. Just skip over the tune. If you detest the bass player so much, trow the frigging album away!
Really annoying bass player. Awful. Wrong notes played with gusto. Bad sound on the instrument as well.
Otherwise, great Steve Marcus solo-one of the few really good soloists Buddy had. The band is amazingly tight as Buddy’s bands always are.
As a bassist, I will concede that his tone was a bit harsh, but wrong notes? Even Buddy turns back at one point and smiles at the variations he added! Check the 78 version at the Holland Jazz show... He literally "jazzed it up" from that version lol
@@dialect64 Okay. I might need to listen to it again. In any case the band is tight as hell and Steve Marcus is in fine form as always.
Very lame...... Maynard Ferguson is much better
Maynard Ferguson plays drums????!!!! ;-)
No doubt Maynard’s is better. Especially with better trumpets and without an egomaniac on the drums
One of the best versions of this Mike Abene arr.
Rhythm section: the late great Wayne Pedziwater on bass. Ernie Vantrese-paiano. Vantrese replaced Barry Keiner, who woud return before his tragic death in '86