King Edward the Elder and the Making of England

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  • @stephenwhitworth3151
    @stephenwhitworth3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Brilliant account of an undeservedly overlooked architect of a united England. I also appreciated the attn you give to Aethelflaed, an exceptional early female builder of much of what came to be the English nation-state.

  • @rileyhewitt4350
    @rileyhewitt4350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As an American, the last kingdom brought me here. Thank you for the great explanations. As a US history buff it is very cool find out how the motherland England came about in the early years.

    • @bwilderd5082
      @bwilderd5082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1800s’ Irish Potato Famine and the Italian Diaspora brought me here, not the British.

    • @TheVaughan5
      @TheVaughan5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bwilderd5082 He was referring to the earliest European settlers to establish permanent towns who were mainly from England/Scotland/Ireland.

    • @WhiteHatzz
      @WhiteHatzz ปีที่แล้ว

      He was referring to a tv show called "The Last Kingdom" the show goes threw the time of king Alfred to his son king Edward, and the kingmaker that supported their claims.

  • @volfan911
    @volfan911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These videos are great, nuanced and more detailed than most others on the history of England. Thank you for producing them and makign them available for free.

  • @neilfarrow1535
    @neilfarrow1535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Excellent video, and well done for covering a topic much neglected.

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's no wonder Edward chose Malden. There were halls and palaces, an excellent swimming pool and one of the most attractive bonus-incentive schemes for industrial development in the city. Only 15 miles from excellent Thames-side docking facilities, and within easy reach of the proposed M25.

  • @HistoryHubChannel
    @HistoryHubChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Thanks for the view. We really do appreciate it as it can be difficult for small channels like this to get them. If you enjoyed this content then think about dropping a like and sharing. See you soon. :)
    Mistake acknowledgement: at 31:24 and other points there is a mispronunciation of "tow-stuh" (i.e. Towcester) which actually sounds like toaster! Oh well. 😆👍

  • @mehmetcaglarozgur7679
    @mehmetcaglarozgur7679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    İ heard the music and remembered my Medieaval Total War games.

  • @dixonsyder2558
    @dixonsyder2558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great research you put into these videos! Much appreciated…

  • @lawrencedicapua6708
    @lawrencedicapua6708 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done, Adam. Your expertise is obvious. Thank you.

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm no expert, merely an eager enthusiast, but thank you for the compliment.

  • @albertcurtis1201
    @albertcurtis1201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These are really very good. I have enjoyed them all. Thanks for the time and efforts. Good job.

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Howdy from Texas 🇨🇱
    These 3--ALFRED EDWARD ATHELSTAN The most honorable & courageous Father Son and Grandson Monarchs of our people. They simply took care of business like Saxons. Perhaps we will be seeing their fighting spirit revealed in our people here soon.

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cant think of three post conquest monarchs within England or Scotland who rulled consecutively and were so consistently effective. Due to there being regencies, or other monarchs in between. The Tudors in England are the closest, but had Edward VI regency, Jane Gray short reign, and Mary I before Elizabeth I took over. In Scotland maybe a period of the Canmoores prior to the failure of that line. But that is also not clear cut. It is a rare occurance to have such successful rulers sequentially and uninterupted by failure.

  • @sharoncole8898
    @sharoncole8898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your research is astonishing. Thank you. I learn so much from watching your videos.

  • @_i_am_unceded
    @_i_am_unceded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I so admire and enjoy your programs.
    Honor and Respect ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • @_i_am_unceded
      @_i_am_unceded 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My family goes back to my 31st Grandfather, Alain

  • @xenocampanoli815
    @xenocampanoli815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is good. The simplicity with clarity is what I like. Thank you.

  • @5280Misfit
    @5280Misfit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Don’t forget about Uhtred son of Uhtred, because after all DESTINY IS ALL 🥴

    • @adventussaxonum448
      @adventussaxonum448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, terrible portrayal of Edward, and Wessex in general, in the TV series. Just as well there was a Danish Northumbrian, and a random Irish warrior, to win the battles which made England. Lucky too that the Mercians could come to save Winchester! 🤔😳

    • @JMDinOKC
      @JMDinOKC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Don't Uhtred on me.

    • @--.5531
      @--.5531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adventussaxonum448 agreed although i feel that its a good representation of the unsung heros of british history

    • @wolfpack1061
      @wolfpack1061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@adventussaxonum448 it’s a historical fiction show, they gotta change things a bit to make interesting to keep people watching

    • @adventussaxonum448
      @adventussaxonum448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wolfpack1061
      I understand artistic licence, but really!
      It's a familiar Cornwell trope. All the real-life doers are either idiots, untrustworthy, petty or downright bad, and it falls to the lowly outsider and his sidekick to get things done.
      This is about bigging up his real life ancestor in Northumberland, and having an Irishman at the heart of things, for the American market. I get it in Sharpe, because it does shine a light on that great asset, the British ranker and the fact that many were actually from Ireland.
      I admit the Uhtred books are much better than the screen portrayal, (pretty much always the case) and I enjoy his writing, but have always found the true story of Aelfred, Edward, Aethelflaed and Aethelstan would make fantastic material for an historically accurate (within reason) effort.
      Aelfred does not look like the man who led the charge up Ashdown, against the Danish army, with only his personal troops before his elder brother joined in.
      Even the sets and costumes do no favours. Winchester, the capital of the West Saxons looks like a Monty Python mediaeval village. (It was a Roman city, admittedly not what it had been but still...). The West Saxons carry rectangular wicker shields and dress like cheap fantasy clod hoppers. I understand that it is necessary to differentiate between them and the vikings but in reality, they would have looked pretty similar.
      What's with the "Ethelstan" , and "Efferwich"? Eoforwic would have been pronounced eyorvorwic (Pretty close to Jorvik of the Danes) and Aethelstan starts with a hard "A" same as Aelfred (ae being the hard a sound). Small irritations maybe, but it jars.

  • @freehugs9223
    @freehugs9223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good timing. I'm trying to thread it all together..

  • @f379986
    @f379986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent information! Thank you

  • @joelfisk
    @joelfisk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blessed be the longform history TH-camrs. Subbed.

  • @Nexus-ub4hs
    @Nexus-ub4hs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another fantastic epic production, so glad I found your channel. I had always been curious about this period in our history which seemed to not garner as much as attention as they deserve. I remember discovering the Plantagenets and feeling the same. I am now binging on your awesome videos and watching over as so much information. You’ve brought these fascinating and important people alive, who I ashamedly had been ignorant of. Thank you for sharing and your hard work 😊🫡
    You deserve a far bigger following and I hope you get that, algorithms can be weird at times.

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. Unfortunately, I work alone and I earn a living from TH-cam so I can't really pour too much time into projects that get little return in terms of views, etc. Bad luck, I guess. Oh well. :)
      I've always loved medieval figures. The Plantagenets are favourites too, but it all started with me (i.e. historical interest) with getting into the 1066 era. :)

    • @Nexus-ub4hs
      @Nexus-ub4hs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HistoryHubChannel I understand, you never know, things can change and I hope they go well for you 😊
      It must be very time consuming to produce, the quality far exceeds the standard of TV docu. All round great production, packed with so much information but your script and narration really draws the viewer in.
      I had always wanted to learn more about this period but there seemed not much or was rather brief and dry. Very grateful to you 😊 I’m going to be watching them over and over 😂 Wishing you all the very best

  • @ray101892
    @ray101892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Good timing. I just finished the last kingdom 😊

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ha! Haven't watched much of that.

    • @rickyellis8505
      @rickyellis8505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HistoryHubChannel you must watch it mate.

    • @lourdesprudencio5647
      @lourdesprudencio5647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm watching it for the 2nd time. I love history...

    • @davidtownsend6092
      @davidtownsend6092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch Vikings. It's better. Both are fantasy an you gotta know that going in. But vikings hetter

    • @davidtownsend6092
      @davidtownsend6092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryHubChannel it is pretty good but vikings is better. It's basically the same thing but from English perspective mostly, and it starts around the the 2/3rd point of Vikings. Timeline wise.

  • @malcolm824
    @malcolm824 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These detailed videos on Anglo-Saxon history are all too rare... Well done

  • @Vercingetorix.Fantasia
    @Vercingetorix.Fantasia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many great history Channels popping up

  • @stacyscorsese1078
    @stacyscorsese1078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yay!!! Just found this video and channel. Subscribed. I love to fall asleep to English history, especially the Dark Ages. Then, I can go back and re-watch while awake. It’s like a double gift!

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Thank you! I will be doing more Anglo-Saxon era vids. :D

    • @stacyscorsese1078
      @stacyscorsese1078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoryHubChannel you're welcome!

    • @SkullOfTheAbyss
      @SkullOfTheAbyss ปีที่แล้ว

      **Early/Middle Ages

    • @joeblog2672
      @joeblog2672 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go to sleep with the dark ages, wake up with age of enlightenment!

  • @bradchun21
    @bradchun21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent content and great reading. Perfect voice/tone

  • @lynnereyes5125
    @lynnereyes5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks very much for this video I love hearing about this topic

  • @gocraiger
    @gocraiger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job on the video. Good voice for history content.

  • @estanblue1980
    @estanblue1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I read all about Alfred the Great amazing history

  • @lachlanneal9375
    @lachlanneal9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good content, glad I found this looks like I have a lot to watch

  • @peggysmith9895
    @peggysmith9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this time period last kingdom is a good historical fiction of the time

  • @curth9288
    @curth9288 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent piece of work! I very much enjoy your historical information on the Viking Age.

  • @paulamos2817
    @paulamos2817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good effort. So glad to have found this channel.

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and welcome, there should be more from this period coming in the next few weeks.

  • @kennethcox2224
    @kennethcox2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found this both entertaining and informative.

  • @anitapollard1627
    @anitapollard1627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm re-watching these anglo-saxon vids you made 🤗 thank you! Will you please make more? 💕❤

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm making a large Anglo-Saxon biography at the moment, but may take some time... 👍

    • @anitapollard1627
      @anitapollard1627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoryHubChannel i am looking forward with eager anticipation!

  • @michaelhussey440
    @michaelhussey440 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff ! I love the detail. Who is History Hub ? What is your background in this field or current job ?

  • @marksundstrom1329
    @marksundstrom1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job! Great insight.

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I hope to make a dedicated bio video on Æthelflæd later this year too. 👍

  • @bensonfang1868
    @bensonfang1868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Question: given this information, why is king Edward longshanks called “The first” when he is in fact the third king named “Edward”

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Chroniclers and historians closer to the time tended to distinguish kings like this "Edward, son of Henry," though as Edward of Caernarfon and then Edward of Windsor came after, "Edward, son of Edward," may have been confusing so they counted from Longshanks on.
      They also counted from the Conquest onwards, as the Plantagenet kings and beyond count from the side who won in 1066 not from the defeated Anglo-Saxon line of kings.
      Edward Longshanks was actually the forth king of that name: the first being the Elder, the second being Edward the Martyr (Reign: 975-978 AD) and the third being Edward the Confessor (Reign: 1042-1066 AD).
      Though... if we're being picky we could indeed only count the Martyr and the Confessor as kings of the English, as technically the Elder never took (as far as we know) the title "King of the English," but was styled "King of the Anglo-Saxons," like his father Alfred the Great.
      Depending on how we count, Longshanks was either third or fourth then. 🙂
      Hope this helps. 👍

    • @joannecassell8825
      @joannecassell8825 ปีที่แล้ว

      Longshanks after 1066 Wm Conquest by Normandy.

    • @joeblog2672
      @joeblog2672 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryHubChannel Very detailed and informative answer to such shoddy arrogance. A king of England is a king of England. The saxon kings should not have to take a back seat to Norman descendants. History should remove this stain of arrogance. As long as a king is said to have ruled over a unified England (even if the geography differed from their Norman counterparts) they should not be disrespected in this manner. Longshanks himself should have corrected this 700+ years ago! Can we not do better? Good question from Bens....!

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the UK made a mistake by only numbering kings from the Norman conquest of England. Due to the UK being created by a union of crowns. Otherwise William IV would be William V, due to William the lion of Scotland existing and Edward VII would be Edward XI with Edward VIII being Edward XII due to the three pre conquest kings and Edward Ballio existing. Probably a retroactivity issue due to the act of union being over 100 years after the ascention of James VI.

  • @titanp6872
    @titanp6872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I love history but don't know a great deal about the Anglo-Saxon period. Pleased I found this channel and loving the content

  • @isjdj3293
    @isjdj3293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content

  • @gm2407
    @gm2407 ปีที่แล้ว

    @35:30 I believe that historians were not sure where Stamford Bridge was. Could it possibly be here? Hadrada landing in Yorkshire, then comming down the coast to the river, then up the river to where the burgh was located?
    Just something I was wondering when watching the video.

  • @forbiddencrystalinternet6201
    @forbiddencrystalinternet6201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! You have a very soothing voice lol

  • @gronndar
    @gronndar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for these. After reading Saxon Stories and watching Last Kingdom I needed to see how it actually went lol

  • @ashtonbarwick6696
    @ashtonbarwick6696 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the total war 1212 ad soundtrack. Fits well

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is from Medieval II Total War, both the mod and the channel get it from that. It seems many channels use Total War and Paradox Interactive music for history documentry scores.

  • @MrL1619
    @MrL1619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any book recommendations on this era of English history? Pre-invasion of William

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'Edward the Elder and the Making of England' by Harriet Harvey Wood, 'The Warrior Queen: the Life and Legend of Æthelflæd, daughter of Alfred the Great,' by Joanna Arman and generally, for a summary the new 'Anglo-Saxons' Marc Morris book might be useful.

  • @Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial
    @Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny how Edward the Elder is one of England's least remembered Kings, yet he was one of the best.

    • @silencer5799
      @silencer5799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny how he wasn't even a king of England

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 ปีที่แล้ว

      People are aware of pre 1066, but as far as I am aware post 1066 was always what history lessons focus on in UK schools, with more recent history being the focus as you get older. I.E less than 100 years ago. So no surprise that someone like Edward would be overlooked.

  • @udonenomee2117
    @udonenomee2117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sure hope this guy did something exciting. Some “Anne Bolin” stuff. I better get back to the intro.

  • @Emil-Antonowsky
    @Emil-Antonowsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked, subscribed, commented.

  • @skiker4560
    @skiker4560 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lord Uhtred son of Uhtred should be spoke of for history during this time. ❤❤

  • @dectel257
    @dectel257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just finished watching The Last Kingdom. I’d like to read the history of this event.

  • @garychynne1377
    @garychynne1377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    right on

  • @Gainn
    @Gainn ปีที่แล้ว

    The random pronunciation of the 'Æ' sound in names from this time frustrates me (in general, not just here).

  • @rickyellis8505
    @rickyellis8505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could make a series on history like this... ho wait....

  • @jamiegladwin
    @jamiegladwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You didn't even mention Uhtred of Bebbanburg

  • @joeblog2672
    @joeblog2672 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good work here for a single person! I hereby pronounce you king of singular produced English monarchy videos: History Hub Rex Singulari! Vivat Rex! (History Hub is king (of) single... Long live the king)

  • @ObiWanFan30
    @ObiWanFan30 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this about Edward the Confessor?

    • @HistoryHubChannel
      @HistoryHubChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, it's about one of his predecessors, the son of Alfred the Great. 👍

  • @Jakeurb8ty82
    @Jakeurb8ty82 ปีที่แล้ว

    00:00 kerrbal space flight achieved.

  • @jimzimmer2048
    @jimzimmer2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think edward gets forgotten too easily

  • @LurkingObserver
    @LurkingObserver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The true Edward the First

  • @ahmedelshafey7602
    @ahmedelshafey7602 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about king Ed sheeran?

  • @denisestevens2540
    @denisestevens2540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not his cousin that was a common name. Was a grandaughter of Uthred

  • @patricktyner1410
    @patricktyner1410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Towcester is pronounced 'Toaster'. I kid you not.

    • @paulamos2817
      @paulamos2817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really good effort. So glad to have found this channel

  • @philipcallicoat3801
    @philipcallicoat3801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mel Brooks was wrong!
    It's not good to:"be da king"!!! Seems to inspire intriguing scoundrels to flock to get close to the Powers that be....😉

  • @drbilldixon4421
    @drbilldixon4421 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great film that's spoilt by pointless music. I want to listen to the narrative, not music

  • @Murdo2112
    @Murdo2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Towcester is pronounced like "toaster".

  • @markpalmer7832
    @markpalmer7832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shame that the Romans left....the English were such Barbarians.