Modern Classic: White Negroni (Two Ways)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2018
  • This Negroni variation was created by bartender Wayne Collins in Bordeaux France around 2001. Collins was attending VinExpo and found himself needing to make Negronis. He wasn't though able to find Campari but did find a bottle of Suze (Gentian bitters) and then decided that he would have to change the Sweet Vermouth to Lillet, which would pair better with the Suze. And thus the White Negroni was born. Lucky for you I have found another set of specs for the White Negroni one is the original Wayne Collins build and the other is another variation which adds a half ounce of Gin and shortens the Suze and Vermouth and then also changes the Lillet to Blanc Vermouth. Hope you Enjoy!
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    Here's The Specs:
    1oz. (30ml) lillet
    1oz. (30ml) Suze
    1oz. (30ml) Gin
    Lemon Twist
    Version 2:
    1.5oz. (45ml) Gin
    .75oz. (20ml) Suze
    .75oz. (20ml) Dolin Blanc Vermouth
    Lemon Twist
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  • @ellisfield159
    @ellisfield159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A rather classy double fist

  • @JamesSmith-qv9qo
    @JamesSmith-qv9qo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It is also really nice with equal parts gin, suze, Cocchi Americano and garnished with a grapefruit twist.

  • @readesmith7687
    @readesmith7687 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually make mine .75 Lillet, .75 Suze and 1.5 Gin. Delicious with lemon twist!

  • @DrivingWithJake
    @DrivingWithJake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice, I'm always looking at different drinks to try when out vs sticking with the normal few drinks.

  • @garlicgirl3149
    @garlicgirl3149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was drooling the entire time he was stirring and the frost was developing on the glass. YUM!

    • @Barprints
      @Barprints 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely had me ready for one!

  • @pbr-streetgang
    @pbr-streetgang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that Navy strength Plymouth Gin! Outstanding drink!👍🏼👍🏼

  • @safata77429
    @safata77429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Try using grapefruit peel, it's really good for this drink!

    • @amykruse6887
      @amykruse6887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think I will try that this weekend as well as one with lemon. Playing around with cocktail flavors is fun.

  • @yuzuu3171
    @yuzuu3171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The one with Lillet looks damn delicious

  • @phillipvick6973
    @phillipvick6973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this drink. I make the Lillet version. I've found that it's really important to let it dilute a bit (or stir more) to take the edge off of the Suze and let the other flavors come out.

  • @robertn3685
    @robertn3685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like using Salers or Luxardo Bitter Bianco instead of Suze. Version 2 is the only spec I learned - gonna try the equal parts with lillet next time 👌

  • @garydaily4226
    @garydaily4226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I see this cocktail, I want to make it all French and use a French gin (like citadelle) the sidecar is so ingrained as an all french cocktail that when I see french ingredients I just want all ingredients to be french

  • @stangierski
    @stangierski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks fantastic, man ;)

  • @cnhoffman
    @cnhoffman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've seen some specs that use Cocchi Americano (in place of the Lillet/Vermouth) and some that use Luxardo Bianco or Saler's Apertif (in place of the Suze). It seems like there could be at least 18 different versions.

    • @arbeckWA
      @arbeckWA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like it with Salers. It's a little more bitter.

    • @ekillops22
      @ekillops22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Suze & Cocchi Americano are a nice pairing

    • @CookinginRussia
      @CookinginRussia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's a bar in Germany that has nothing but Negroni variations - about 30 of them.

    • @endconnr
      @endconnr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the version closer to what I prefer, for damn sure!

  • @utubber97
    @utubber97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Favorite Drink. :)

  • @KeithGrant
    @KeithGrant 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only I could find a bottle of Suze in the states. I've been looking for it for years, because I love this drink.

    • @gregorypetregne6971
      @gregorypetregne6971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Keith, found one last week in my local Total Wine (North Texas)

    • @jejwood
      @jejwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregorypetregne6971 Also available online through Astor Wines in NY

  • @JM-pm3tb
    @JM-pm3tb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent as always. My favorite...Plymouth/Suze/Cocchi Americano 1/1/1 with grapefruit twist/garnish.
    BTW, in your Version 2 specs- 0.75 oz = 22.5 ml, not 20. 20 ml is 0.66 oz (2/3 ounce)

  • @jadeyarrowjuntunen6258
    @jadeyarrowjuntunen6258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We have a really cool variation at my bar that's 1 oz mezcal, .75 green chartreuse, .75 contratto bianco, and .5 suze.

    • @TheEducatedBarfly
      @TheEducatedBarfly  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Megan Juntunen that sounds tasty. What bar do you work at? Where? And what’s the drink called? Definitely going to have to try it

  • @LaBambaGames
    @LaBambaGames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Suze was invented in Switzerland, but its produced by the Pernod group who is a a French company 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @LoveRonnelid
      @LoveRonnelid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The same group that also owns Absolut Vodka of Sweden, not to be confused with Absolut Vodka of Switzerland.

    • @Barprints
      @Barprints 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoveRonnelid It's enough to make your head spin!

  • @endconnr
    @endconnr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos man!
    I gotta say though, i have no idea why you don't stir in a boston for these vids, but i would like to hear if there is a reason. Straw taste from bostom rather than the glass before serving, get a sexy strain, and avoid those spills that happen. Also gives you a secondary gauge from the bostom temp as well as rotations to go off of. Also gives a consistent target for pouring while you're moving at high speed. But, you have a channel with thousands of followers and i got NOTHIN so, there's also that.
    Again though, love the channel!

    • @TheEducatedBarfly
      @TheEducatedBarfly  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel that stirring cocktails in a stirring glass then straining over ice is a little clunky. What’s the point? It’s Going in a rocks glass anyway why not just stirwith the cube in the glass? Spills are minute and it’s an extra step when busy. I support you wanting to do
      It but I don’t. Thanks for watching broheim

    • @endconnr
      @endconnr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheEducatedBarfly Thanks for the reply!
      I use only steel (everything) until it hits the final glass, mostly for meez but also for sanitary purposes, and I don't end up knocking any glass ware. Plus I like the aesthetic of perfecting and tasting in the shaker and leaving the glass for the guests hands only- gives them a sense of ownership I find.
      Hope you don't mind trading ideas, I don't get to talk to many people about this stuff these days. Subscribed!

    • @TheEducatedBarfly
      @TheEducatedBarfly  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      COnnor Leo I’m all about trading ideas! :)

  • @antoniogiovannucci88
    @antoniogiovannucci88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Make more drinks with apple jack please. That stuff is real good

    • @royjensen340
      @royjensen340 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just made an apple jack rabbit following Jim Meehan's recipe. It's Fantastic!

  • @snehaalam5329
    @snehaalam5329 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your video as I learn a lot too. Well u were right suze is swiss liquor from Switzerland:)

    • @TheEducatedBarfly
      @TheEducatedBarfly  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @snehaalam5329
      @snehaalam5329 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEducatedBarfly as I have been pursuing bartendering for last 3 years, u been a good source of learning, Thank you:)

  • @AwayFromTheShadow
    @AwayFromTheShadow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding literature: I have been using "Schumanns Bar" almost exclusively and found that it's honestly unbelievably good and widespread. What else do you suggest/find most helpful?

  • @thejohnz0r
    @thejohnz0r ปีที่แล้ว

    Suze has recently been confirmed to be from Switzerlan - so you're both right, kinda...

  • @gavinjenkins7463
    @gavinjenkins7463 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are there many other suze recipies that would warent me buying a bottle?

  • @jaydub2971
    @jaydub2971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would Old Tom gin be misplaced here?

  • @GreatExplications
    @GreatExplications 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also great with Cocchi Americano.

    • @Barprints
      @Barprints 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Epic Sub!

  • @boozebeard9501
    @boozebeard9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reaaaaally want to make these but can't get Suze anywhere here :(

    • @Barprints
      @Barprints 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here ! Off to Amazon it is for me

  • @migueldelacruz4243
    @migueldelacruz4243 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how long will Lillet last when refrigerated?

    • @jejwood
      @jejwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of people will say up to six months. At that point, you don't need to toss it; the flavor just tends to begin declining at that point (...by the refined tastes of some, but I think when mixed with something with a strong flavor profile like suze, my taste isn't refined enough to say that you can't use it for several more months beyond that). When in doubt, taste it and let your your own palate be the judge. If you can't enjoy it alone, it's probably not worth mixing with. But please take my opinion with a grain of salt.

  • @kayzeaza
    @kayzeaza ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m this drunk when I listen to hip hop and R&B

  • @thomasjaggers3576
    @thomasjaggers3576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish Dolin had not changed the lead on the Blanc bottle

  • @greenhat7618
    @greenhat7618 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make bloody mary

  • @alanhaenni
    @alanhaenni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When in doubt where it´s from, check the label.

    • @Barprints
      @Barprints 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always been my go to!

  • @independentmind7782
    @independentmind7782 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 oz Plymouth gin
    1 oz Cocchi Americano
    1 oz Dolin Dry vermouth

  • @tahnolikessharing
    @tahnolikessharing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is Marius?

    • @TheEducatedBarfly
      @TheEducatedBarfly  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elephants Fly Marius is my producing partner

    • @axelknutt5065
      @axelknutt5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s the man behind the man behind the bar!

  • @mhooshidar
    @mhooshidar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer 45ml Plymouth, 30ml Lillet & 15ml Suze, think that Suze becomes overpowering otherwise.

  • @ludwiglorentz9315
    @ludwiglorentz9315 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe that Fernet should be replaced with the Suze...

  • @triplecap4307
    @triplecap4307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You substitute suze for the campari, not the other way around. Sheesh. LOL

  • @onlyverti
    @onlyverti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait he couldn't find Campari 😅