Billy Gibbons and Jimmy Vaughn Dec 27th/24 at Antones in Austin Texas

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  • @fredfloyd68
    @fredfloyd68 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    These two boys made a lot of happiness for all...still doing it.

  • @trafyknits9222
    @trafyknits9222 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The Immortal Billy F. Gibbons keepin' it going well into his 70s. We're lucky to have him with us.

  • @richardhamilton3163
    @richardhamilton3163 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So nice to see Chris playing drums as well! Look forward to KWS with Chris whenever we can see them! Thank you for a wonderful video :)

  • @stephenmiller5023
    @stephenmiller5023 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Chris Layton on Drums !! Hell yeah . Happy New year you guys !! 😎👍

    • @markkennard861
      @markkennard861 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      One line Stevie said a lot.. "Chris Layton on the drums" God I miss that.

    • @jefferywarburton2116
      @jefferywarburton2116 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The whipper in action.

    • @jordandickerson4069
      @jordandickerson4069 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought that was Chris Layton.

    • @LeftCoast_TomP
      @LeftCoast_TomP 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder if he ever admits to being sick of playing a basic shuffle rhythm for so many blues songs. Most of SRV double trouble music was shuffle rhythm - albeit a very infectious heavy shuffle.

    • @joedonuts13
      @joedonuts13 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I saw SRV play for the last time. I then saw Kenny Wayne at the Ryman last February. Chris was playing drums for KWS. The first time I had seen him since Aug 26, 1990. It was pretty cool to see him again. Then, in April I saw Robert Cray for the first time since that August night as well.

  • @skidoc681
    @skidoc681 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the greats....Rev Willie G Jimmy can't play and never could.

  • @newenglandguitarman3345
    @newenglandguitarman3345 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Spelled ‘Jimmie Vaughan’
    Chris Layton on drums & Mike Flanigin on vocals/ B-3

    • @mlbolts72
      @mlbolts72 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Finnegan lol 🤠🎹

    • @SiloSoundStudios
      @SiloSoundStudios 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mlbolts72 must be a different Mike Finnegan, because I think Mike died back in 2021.

    • @mlbolts72
      @mlbolts72 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SiloSoundStudios thx

    • @NoineNoineNoine
      @NoineNoineNoine 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jimi

    • @petertarr2930
      @petertarr2930 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The is Chris "Whipper" Layton to you! Met him with the Cheif Tommy Shannon at the Aragon ballroom on Texas Flood Tour we rode our motorcycles down to the brawlroom and saw an amazing man!! SRV I still miss him today!!!

  • @StarshipTrooper2050
    @StarshipTrooper2050 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I wish Stevie was here to enjoy this!
    Still praying for Jimmie…I’m sure he misses his brother in a big way!

    • @bwhit716
      @bwhit716 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      My exact thought adding wishing Stevie was playing too

    • @BethThompson-wz6cp
      @BethThompson-wz6cp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Austin Blues power

  • @fletchermunson6225
    @fletchermunson6225 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I ran into Jimmy in a restaurant. He stopped by our table to shoot the breeze. Super nice humble guy. He was there with his family going to a west coast car show. It looked like his wife and daughters told him he wasn't going without them. heh.

  • @DoobTube71
    @DoobTube71 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Last time I saw these two masters, I was front row at the House of Blues on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, New Years Eve, 2001. Marcia Ball opened the show for Jimmy Vaughn. The Rev. Billy G. was in the balcony with Terry Bradshaw and some sharp dressed women! Billy came down for a couple song encore. It was an awesome night!

    • @muddycreek-b2
      @muddycreek-b2 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Vaughan

    • @sbonamo
      @sbonamo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      JV master? Think you mean his brother. ;-)

  • @mrmiscast
    @mrmiscast 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you very much for recording and posting this for us all....

  • @kevinhuber8723
    @kevinhuber8723 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thanks for posting this! Love it!

  • @jackramey3456
    @jackramey3456 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    That is called having fun! What a jam!

  • @Babassecretchannel
    @Babassecretchannel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I fell in love with Jimmie’s playing in the early 90’s. Him not trying to impress you is really impressive!

    • @stevejones924
      @stevejones924 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why does his left hand look like its working more to hit chords or notes then most players?

  • @alanwhiteside410
    @alanwhiteside410 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Excellent two of my favorites !!!! 🎸🎸
    God Bless Ya Both.

  • @philipsummers9682
    @philipsummers9682 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Awesome 😎 brought a big smile on my face after work 👍

  • @typhoonjenkins8330
    @typhoonjenkins8330 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Billy's 75 and still got it goin on......love these guys. Jimmy awesome too.

  • @prostreet85c10
    @prostreet85c10 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    saw em the next day in ft worth! killer concert!!!

  • @brianwagner5008
    @brianwagner5008 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Layton on Drums!!! Total restraint here playing traditional Blues!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

  • @jeromewagschal9485
    @jeromewagschal9485 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It can't possibly be any more Texan than that...

  • @brownsfan7753
    @brownsfan7753 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I love the blues!!!!

  • @jeffcharles5858
    @jeffcharles5858 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Chris Layton's unmistakeable Jump Shuffle!

  • @Texasbluestunes
    @Texasbluestunes 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    These two guys have known each other pushin 60 years. They need to d this more often.

  • @erikwallstrand6918
    @erikwallstrand6918 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How many years of playing do these gentlemen have behind them? Or rather, how many hundreds of years? And yet they have the joy of playing. That's what music does. For everyone, including us listeners.🎸🎸🎹🥁

  • @kentborges5114
    @kentborges5114 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ICONIC !

  • @Fathead09
    @Fathead09 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Louisiana boy here. I so love Texas!

  • @jonnybeck6723
    @jonnybeck6723 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Needs a few more Pinkerple Magnatones there, boys...

  • @carywest9256
    @carywest9256 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On this date in '81, saw 22,oops ZZTOP the first of 6 times throughout the years.
    This was the El Loco tour, in Dallas @ The Wintergarden Ballroom on John West Rd. Two shows -7:00, then 11:00. The next day Billy Bob's Texas in Foat Wuth. No opening act, that 7'o clock show was badass, l'm here ta told ya!

  • @frankiedunham6678
    @frankiedunham6678 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I love those Texans

  • @jlbaxe
    @jlbaxe 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chris Layton, Mike Flanigin and another guitarist opened for ZZ Top at the Pearl in Vegas a few months ago. Great show.

  • @geobrio9
    @geobrio9 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome display of some Texas Blues!

  • @BC99
    @BC99 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s taken me 30 plus years but I’m finally starting to understand why Jimmie Vaughn was Stevie’s favorite guitar player.

  • @MM-rr1kp
    @MM-rr1kp 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Billy, classy guy. Love this jam

  • @Joseph-n4c5l
    @Joseph-n4c5l 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was truly cool.

  • @jdfolbre
    @jdfolbre 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So damn awesome

  • @johnwattdotca
    @johnwattdotca 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This must be one of the better retirement homes in America.

    • @Kevzilla100
      @Kevzilla100 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a bog-standard Friday night in Austin. Also, David Grissom has a residency on Tuesday nights at a bar in a strip mall.

    • @stillnotwoke
      @stillnotwoke 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, some pretty basic sh*t being played here. Jimmie looks a bit long in the tooth, and Billy has always looked that way...

  • @bufy10
    @bufy10 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you ❤

  • @davegilmore7420
    @davegilmore7420 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wanna move to Texas❤

  • @sms9106
    @sms9106 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds amazing.

  • @sickb2200
    @sickb2200 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Merry Christmas indeed!

  • @RussCobleigh-xq4ow
    @RussCobleigh-xq4ow 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    saw them play there at different times in the 70's ..

  • @srvuk
    @srvuk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jimmy looks as if he has aged 10 years overnight but the playing is still great. Lovely to see Layton on drums, who looks younger than he did back in the 80's.

  • @rafaelburgos7567
    @rafaelburgos7567 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2 grandes !!!!!!!!!

  • @petedazer3381
    @petedazer3381 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Jimmie looks pretty good!

  • @stevejones924
    @stevejones924 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Up close and personalble, nice.

  • @DoctorOboogie
    @DoctorOboogie 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    EXCELLENT !

  • @Sleepy-xy8fq
    @Sleepy-xy8fq 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I sure wanted to go see this show, just couldn't find the time.

  • @jeffkirpach4815
    @jeffkirpach4815 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So cool!

  • @LipAllowance1
    @LipAllowance1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This song is called bad boy by Eddie Taylor. Legend of the highest order

  • @thomasmixson7064
    @thomasmixson7064 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Got it goin' on at Antones! Just a little blues

  • @Gearhound62
    @Gearhound62 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Who remembers the Red Devils?

    • @mlbolts72
      @mlbolts72 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Or arc angels

    • @newenglandguitarman3345
      @newenglandguitarman3345 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Gearhound62 of course ! One of em a buddy of mine 😉

    • @roachroacharito9113
      @roachroacharito9113 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      His Seymour-Duncan minibuckers for single coil routs. Proud owner here.😊

  • @isometric2008
    @isometric2008 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Stevie was asked who his favorite guitar player was and he said Jimmy, he can lay back and show you how good he is, but me I gotta pull out every trick in the book and I'm not where he's at.

  • @johnnyx9892
    @johnnyx9892 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We are all getting older.........except the Reverend Willie G.
    He is iconic and beyond time and space.
    Have Mercy!!!

  • @Rylie-Riley
    @Rylie-Riley 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I was just about to ask who that was on drums, because I liked what I was hearing, and then I saw him. . . Chris f'ing Layton!

  • @stevenkimsey7039
    @stevenkimsey7039 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've got no one to talk to but the blues

  • @userer4579
    @userer4579 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got dem dirty ol' sports bar blues ...

  • @benallmark9671
    @benallmark9671 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can anybody tell me what kind of guitar Billy is playing here ?

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch7412 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Spelt Jimi Von

  • @brook-mn7zc
    @brook-mn7zc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Layton on drums?

  • @christopherflores8244
    @christopherflores8244 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone know the story with Billy's guitar? Looks like it has a Gretsch logo and Flanigin played in The Red Devils. ???

  • @GuitarlosCarlos
    @GuitarlosCarlos 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THE KEYS ARE IN THE WAY
    CARLOS GUITARLOS

  • @johnathandavis3693
    @johnathandavis3693 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Arguably the two BEST living American guitarists, if not in the WORLD. I'm surprised that stage didn't just tip-over, with so much talent on it!

    • @RobTolbert
      @RobTolbert 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      😅😅😅...Not Even

    • @stillnotwoke
      @stillnotwoke 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, let's not get too crazy now... that's really not an argument you want to get into.

  • @billtaylor4897
    @billtaylor4897 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's The Water....

  • @DavidYoungSpace
    @DavidYoungSpace 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was there a bass player? Or was the keyboard playing the bass parts?

  • @HelenRundell
    @HelenRundell 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eye worked at several of the Thundercloud Subs locations Austin mid-eighties and made Chris Layton a sandwich, though eye didn't recognize him until after he left. As eye handed his order, he had a look about him as if wondering he'd been made. Perhaps my opportunity to gush over a local star was missed, lol. Saw Stevie w/ Double Trouble at Auditorium Shores just after Lou Ann Barton had left the line-up...aah historical moments.

    • @benallmark9671
      @benallmark9671 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I not eye. Not trying to be a dick but if you’re anything like me you’ll appreciate the mistakes being pointed out. That way you never make them again. That’s the way I look at it anyway. Cheers

    • @HelenRundell
      @HelenRundell 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @benallmark9671 uh oh- grammar nazi, lol. Just glad for your interest in the best music of the southwest, hope to bump into you at one of the few shows that interest me these days.

    • @HelenRundell
      @HelenRundell 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @benallmark9671 uh oh- grammar nazi, lol. Just glad to know another lover of south Texas music. Hope to bump into you at one of the few acts interested in these days.

  • @gunnerjenson
    @gunnerjenson 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I met Billy in a bar in Texas and we had a few beers on me. When it was his round he went for a shit and never came back.

  • @purpleplexi
    @purpleplexi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Lucky Billy brung enough amps.....

  • @BlugubriousMusic
    @BlugubriousMusic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am a lead guitar player, but please, guitar TH-cam... not only is Chris Layton there, but so is Mike Flanigin.... I know we think everything is about the guitar, but how about some love for the bands they are in... oh, and I have video of Chris Layton teaching me how to play Testify on drums so I could relay it to our drummer... Double Trouble were total sweethearts to my brother and I when we opened for them.

  • @KPBC-n4q
    @KPBC-n4q 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Negative comments are not needed…..or wanted. Dont see you being asked to play at Antones…and if you played worth a darn, you’d know playing live isn’t going to be perfect”tone”. Get over yourself and enjoy these guys while they are still with us…

    • @mrbuttons1243
      @mrbuttons1243 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely. There's something to be said for having your own style and playing with honesty and authenticity. Not everybody can do that. Many people just regurgitate licks.

  • @ji3946
    @ji3946 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    no mention of Whip in the title?

  • @tommieberggren3324
    @tommieberggren3324 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chris Layton on the drums !

  • @bloozedaddy
    @bloozedaddy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just go back and listen to the prime years. This isn't good. Someone needs to stick a shiv in Father Time. I'm 65 and I know the reality of the generation ahead of me and what's coming.

  • @sharkair2839
    @sharkair2839 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    his guitar neck says, red devils. hard to notice with those stacks of amplifiers behind him.

    • @newenglandguitarman3345
      @newenglandguitarman3345 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Red Devils are the Seymour Duncan hi gain strat size HB’s he’s been pushing & are loaded in the guitar he’s playing
      ( also the band from 90’s)

    • @marccunningham6353
      @marccunningham6353 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for telling us what we can clearly see ...i'm blind so, thanks again...

    • @sharkair2839
      @sharkair2839 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@newenglandguitarman3345 I had no idea. i thought it was a refence to lester butler and company. My guess is he is a huge fan like the rest of us. Live at the king king.

    • @newenglandguitarman3345
      @newenglandguitarman3345 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sharkair2839 great record!

  • @frankyfingers068
    @frankyfingers068 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Couple of Pros! Great jam.

  • @Xazertroncharlie
    @Xazertroncharlie 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like anything with Billy Gibbons. I never have really gotten this double stop riff that he is playing at about 4:00 . I have heard him do it in a lot of solos. To me it never quite fits. 🤔

  • @johnchristian4854
    @johnchristian4854 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why are you not including Chris Layton on the header of this vid?!

  • @pinslayer4579
    @pinslayer4579 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kinda weird both lookin down at their guitars like they forgot where their fingers go....
    Doesn't sound that way

  • @oscarpolo6310
    @oscarpolo6310 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bad Boy by Eddie "Playboy" Taylor.

  • @danielduplantier3741
    @danielduplantier3741 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Magnatone wall is quite cool looking.

  • @TheJimburke
    @TheJimburke 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    JV is lucky he never played a fast lick in his life so as he has grown older he has never had to reproduce the fast chop he never played of his youth.

    • @TabloidJunkie-cn4zg
      @TabloidJunkie-cn4zg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Although I respect the man because of SRV, I’ve never been impressed with JV as a player. Anything I’ve ever heard from him was so lackluster, I’m puzzled how he was able to be so well known, especially with his generic playing.

  • @lakesnake2005
    @lakesnake2005 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A how, how, how, how....

  • @mikeshanermusic
    @mikeshanermusic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Poor Jimmy's got no idea how to bend a hat. He's gone all flying nun. 🤭

  • @michaelheaton562
    @michaelheaton562 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Spelled Flanagan?

  • @maxjerryhorowitz4710
    @maxjerryhorowitz4710 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Junior Brown🤠

  • @muddycreek-b2
    @muddycreek-b2 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vaughan

  • @jasonweinberg932
    @jasonweinberg932 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved Clapton’s version of this!

  • @seabertotter4325
    @seabertotter4325 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Geez, Billy, enough of the hyperload of prop amps!

    • @artvillarreal8849
      @artvillarreal8849 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Magnatone probably sets them up for every gig as per his endorsement reqs.

  • @davidjenkins4364
    @davidjenkins4364 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Noels backup vocals sound strained.

  • @jokermaan1
    @jokermaan1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I saw Jimmy Vaughan in Austin in April and he looks like he's aged ten years since. I know he's had health issues, but he does not look well at all.

  • @tmaddrummer
    @tmaddrummer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How about CHRIS LAYTON!!!

  • @stefanocosta4397
    @stefanocosta4397 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aah , sto Ghibbonz....sarà anche bravo ma fa proprio il pagliaccio....poverino !

  • @PerfectoMendez-xk7wi
    @PerfectoMendez-xk7wi 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Texas grown guitar slingers.

  • @ronniek7748
    @ronniek7748 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not overly impressed with Jimmy’s playing and sound.

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jimmie was Stevie's favorite player
      That says it all...

    • @lucabrasi5070
      @lucabrasi5070 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mattrogers1946Stevie was a good brother that was always trying to promote and help his brother out in any way he could. But I’ll never bash Jimmy’s playing. He’s not trying to dazzle anyone with shredding or speed. But neither does Keith Richards or David Gilmour. Or Mr Gibbons, for that matter.

    • @David-xy9my
      @David-xy9my 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's older now and has either deliberately chosen to play in this slower style, or has some arm, hand, finger issues that are affecting his playing. There is no doubt that his playing now is slower and less fluid than his playing 40 years ago.
      But, if you go back and listen to the early T-Birds albums, Jimmie was tremendous. Fast when he needed to be, and fluid always. The T-Birds (and Stevie) almost singlehandedly revived classic blues, and Jimmie's influence is profound and far reaching. You would be hard pressed to find a straight ahead blues player in the last 50 years who would say that Jimmie was not a fantastic player.
      I suppose his appeal is "limited" because of the genre he works in. I'm sure he doesn't matter much to shredders, metal heads, and who knows what other up to the minute styles I can't even name. But if you like pure American blues and R&B, he's the real deal. If you know you know.....

  • @Jef-sj6zc
    @Jef-sj6zc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Max 3 blues songs and I'm totally done with it .......................

  • @Stokkelo
    @Stokkelo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Gibbons doesn't enjoy this, judging his facial expression....

    • @19712218
      @19712218 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s the blues, LOL

    • @rockdanger
      @rockdanger 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      If he didn't want to be there he wouldn't be.

    • @andrewthomason3857
      @andrewthomason3857 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      You’re basing this on his nose, one earlobe, and upper cheeks?

    • @marcgatto9675
      @marcgatto9675 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol😂

    • @martshankleman
      @martshankleman 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      His playing sounds great- that’s what counts .

  • @gregdolecki8530
    @gregdolecki8530 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like they are playing in the Magnatone showroom. It's Jimmy Vaughan for the solo win. So tasteful. Honestly, Billy G just seems tired.

  • @antoniiocaluso1071
    @antoniiocaluso1071 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cool sounds, but terrible "show", ya know? time to retire sometime, cause...rock-n-blues ain't for oldies. don't we wish it were so! 🙂

  • @stephenedgecock
    @stephenedgecock 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    needs more Magnatone amps

  • @leehenderson8132
    @leehenderson8132 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MR. GIBBONS....PLEASE.PLEASE RETIRE.LOVE YOUR OLD ZZ MUSIC.TODAY YOUR LIKE A SAD OLD IMITATION.

  • @Patriot-x8y
    @Patriot-x8y 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Billy sounds like he's under a pile of lilypads. Bends out of tune, no tone at all.