Sekiro: Isshin, the Sword Saint Cheese (or rather Super-Cheese)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2019
- Video shows that I wasted a couple of Axe blows on Phase 3 and I finished with 2 spirit emblems so you should be able to successfully cheese Isshin at a much lower (under 20) Power Level. Video also shows that I only used 1 confetti and 1 red sugar and got interrupted on the other attempts.
The essential buffs are:
- the 2 special rices (snow and sweet) for phases 3 and 4
- using Tanto 3 times (before you begin and as you start phase 3 and phase 4) for 15 extra Spirit Emblems
- Eeel Liver on phase 4 to make you practically immune to lightning (in combo with the sweet rice) so you can focus more on offense
It would be nice to enter battle with Confetti and Ako because it costs nothing to use them and they might help.
And don't forget to create a game save BEFORE you go in because some of the ingredients - the 2 rices - are impossible to replace this playthrough. Save your game before you go in and fight and if you get killed you reload your old save and try again. You can do this easily by saving to the Cloud or on a USB drive on PS4, don't know how it works on other platforms.
You can raise your attack power very quickly if you farm experience at Outskirts Wall - Stairway right before Isshin. You get about 3700 easy exp points for every 20 seconds or so loop.
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Roses are red, grasses are green
Everybody gangsta till' Isshin pulls out a glock 17.
Lmfao
This is amazing.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😎👌
isshin second one has fire based attack which is more deadly as shown in here th-cam.com/video/ItkXHMnTd1c/w-d-xo.html
LMFAO
Isshin: talks bout fighting with honor
*a few moments later
Isshin: *pulls out spear, glock, lightning attacks
-_-
I was stunned when that mf shot me for the first time
Honor can be a relevant term is souls likes lol
A shinobi would know the difference between honor and victory.
well he says that the only real rule in ashina style is to win your battles
@@majtoman2735 exactly
He's not locking on , and it makes me anxious everytime.😂
WOW. Just wow. This absolutely trumps every other strategy on this boss I've ever seen
have you tried learning the boss, that is always the best way to fight any sekrio boss
@@asuperiorjamularproduct8861 then why are you here?
@@Noble_Isaac to see what 15 minute long unessecarily convoluted cheeses there are, and by the looks of it, they all consist of hit, run away for 3 minutes and that just isnt what sekiro is about
@@asuperiorjamularproduct8861 but this isn't a 15 minute convoluted cheese... this is a 3-4 hits with an axe and the boss is done... by far this is the most effective way to kill the boss
Attack Power Level 23 though
BRO THIS WORKED SO WELL!!
I was struggling to kill Isshin so much and literally all I needed was the Loaded Axe level 3/4 upgrade!
For anyone else struggling, just hit with Axe, sword attack a few times, dodge to make them stop executing combos, and then hit with Axe, repeat.
What attack power did you have at that point
@@tokyosblade Attack power doesn't matter against main bosses as they ALWAYS scale with you.
However, I fought him again on New Game Plus and it became 10x harder. But I beat him. I'll tell you how:
LEARN how to deflect ALL the time against him. Go in there willing to die but only for the goal of learning. First phase, no need for the Axe, just parry his Ashina Cross move. It is easy to predict as his torso has a "white sparky" shine RIGHT before he strikes you.
Second phase is the hardest. Attack less, and deflect more. When he finishes his big combo, it will ALWAYS end in a flying thrust attack. Mikiri-counter that, and immediately Axe him follow up with few sword attacks. You might take a hit or two in the process, but this will make him repeat his combo. As long as you are deflecting, his posture will stay the same and you will have another chance to Axe him after you Mikiri. Rinse, focus, and repeat.
Third phase, just run around until he does Lightning move, and then just jump, grab lightning, hit him with it. And start running again 😂 6 lightning strikes and his health will reach zero.
If you don't have the patience for it, just play his third phase like second one and it works.
Like I said, just practice Deflection timings first. Don't try to win, just focus on learning. Once you think you've learned enough, go in and kick his ass!
@@Starboiiiii bosses don’t scale to ur attack power what???
Man,you killed the joy of this fight,felt like more revenge 😂😂,nice watching that
There is no joy in this fight
@@Shadow-pq2dr Joy is defeat
@@dagwood5041 yeah that’s true
@@Shadow-pq2dr lil baby couldn't beat isshin 😢
@@kdog4347 he’s the final boss? And the hardest.
Thanks a lot for this strategy. Killed him after 3 or 4 tries.
Phase 1 - lazulite axe + fine snow
Phase 2 - lazulite axe + sweet rice ball
Phase 3 & 4 - Waited for his combo where he jumps with the spear and then hits you with the sword. After dodging this combo used the mortal blade on his scrawny ass. Rinse & repeat. Slow but relatively safe.
Still he's very fast, so I killed him with 20% health and no more gourds, pellets or divine grass.
Had 20 vitality & 14 attack.
Do you need the lazulite axe
@@lokifrank5132 just get good, this boss is hard but not unforgiving
@@markbakkerhslnot unforgiving with 4 fucking stages all of which change move sets entirely and if u die u have to repeat all 4 stages yea your the problem with the fromaoff community
This still works as of may 8th 2020. Took me about 2 and half days of attempts. Ako sugar is key! Just like he said. And my health was 18 and my attack was 14 so it was a bit harder seeing I wasnt as strong as he is in the video. But overall a great method. It worked for me!
This guy has been kicking my ass, I’m grinding for this strat when I’m home from work lol. Thanks man !
In feel you pain :). The 23 Attack is needed if you want to do it very much Axe-only. Otherwise you run out of spirit emblems and need maybe a good combat art - Empowered Mortal Draw comes to mind or at least it's what I would feel comfortable with.
Arth Denton thanks for the information, is there any skills / combat arts for your strategy? Thank you for the upload by the way. You made it look easy!
@@andregomes1590 As the video shows, I had enough spirit emblems to finish him off with the Axe.
Attacking from the 'right' distance is important. I had Empowered Mortal Draw in reserve - works well without emblems - but I changed my mind at the last moment and switched to Floating Passage because it's a bit faster but did not need it after all.
You may want to pop in a Jizzo Statue if you get killed in Phase 3 or 4.
Arth Denton thanks bro, will post up how it goes tomorrow!
Andre Gomes did you beat him?
This helped very much . That ax made all the difference for me. Thanks man
Thank you for showing the way. After 2 days trying, I got him down. It's funny to see how the prrvious bosses seem easy in comparison 😁
THANKS FOR THE GREAT GUIDE. BEEN STUCK WITH 2ND PHASE FOR MANY DAYS. WITH THIS GUIDE I CAN CHEESE HIS 2ND PHASE.
After many many hours this is the one that helped. I was losing my mind truing to find a strategy that worked. Ran out of tanto usages and more or less had to do the final phase legitimately, but I finally beat him. Thank you~
Thanks a lot man! I was stuck on this boss for many days and i finally did it today with your guide. My attack power was 13, vigor 20 and i used this method on first phaze of isshin, last two phases i bait him and hit him with mortal draw. That was fun thanks again!
Gid gud
@@DiamondDog1982 dead joke
13! What did you skip every boss lol
what’s the axe
@@misery_follows Lazulite Axe
After one shotting all but the two owl fights this boss was a major reality check. How guys like squilla do this boss without taking a single hit is beyond me.
Fr squilla is a god
Still works in 2021! Attack Power - 15, Vitality - 20! Although I have to use an extra rice ball!
bro you saved me from tilt thank you for the axe smash idea made this fight ez with a little bit of work
Bro literally first try, didn’t even need the sticky rice balls. Thanks for the idea bro, so glad I chose the axe as one of my lazulite weapons.
After watching this you just gave me motivation to give him another go. There is hope!!
Same but in school right now
It worked man thanks so much - journey has been long may finally rest
:) my exact feelings at the time.
Did this work for you recently please?
I can see the light in the tunnel thanks to you. Actually I just got trophy for getting all skills but later reloaded the save file and used everything to buy strength. I have power lvl 22 because I skipped Owl in Hirata.
Never thought of that - getting the skills trophy and then reloading. Good strategy :)
What level strength is good for this fight?
I hate when people give these videos and people hell this is good stuff. He shows people that struggle a way. And the people that dont a bad ass way posture damage . i think it awsome keep um comin bro
Axe reminds me of my Strength weapon from DS , I have smacked every boss with my Great Club
he doesnt seem to get stunlocked for me in phase 2
Still works 2020 👌 buffs not necessary but recommended.
Thanks for this video dude, now I only have to increase my health bar 👍🏼🙏🏼
This is so satisfying to watch because it is visually pleasing. I will try that.
I did it with 22 attack! I am so happy 2 years of pain are gone! I have beat this boss for the first time. Thank you for this strategy.
My attack power was 19, probably could've done at 18, also devotion skill just picked up last night. His speed gets me everytime and finally started near a rock with enough emblems to break his posture with the tanto. Using pellets and switching from spiral cloud to floating passage helped me on my inventory and have sweet rice and 2 sweet rice balls for the final 3 phases. When I ran out of emblems for the ax with a resurrection left with a broken posture, I knew the empowered mortal blade would finish the job.
how can I do this if I don't have a rice ball? consumables are used between attempts
gramps: hesitation is defeat.
sekiro: fine, then a lazulite axe on your ass.
It's funny how Sekiro keeps on getting interrupted when using buffs/healing. But this guide seems to work pretty well. Good job bro.
The axe attacks are "armored" so they aren't interrupted.
"...when using buffs/healing."
Yeah this 100% works with just the sparking axe upgrade you don’t even need lazulite. Thank you so much for this. You helped break this wall of a boss.
Wow, you absolutely DESTROYED this Douche-clown , absolute mayham my friend, nicely Done!!!
Still was pretty fucking hard, i hope Elder Ring doesn't have a boss like this, with little to no window of opportunity
Elden ring is easy compared to this. Well besides Malenia lol. Some people struggle on maliketh, radagon, and Godfrey as well because of their aggression. But those fights “make sense” if you will. Not a 1600 “sword saint” that time travelled to the future for a Glock and pulls a spear out of his ass while also being able to be deathblowed 2 times without issue and harnesses the power of lightning.. lol
@@SirGuidemere91 my comment aged like milk jesus, Sekiro is by far easier than Elden Ring by the simple fact that it's a rythmic game with some Devil May Cry elements, also i hate the fact thar most ER bosses feel clunky and no visible openings, the only bosses that i consider rather good were Godefry and Radagon, and the rest feel like they were ment to be a Sekiro boss, speccially Malenia wich quite literally is a Sekiro boss
@@durchfaII really? Well everyone has their play styles and trials for sure. I’m on sword saint as the last thing I need to kill on new game + and I’m having a hell of a time. Nothing on elden ring killed me as much as genichiro 2, owl 1, old man ishiin, or sword saint. Even the demon of hatred was harder than most of ER for me. Safe to say I don’t understand this rhythm you speak of lol. Did you beat all of ER at least though? And I agree about Malenia. She would’ve fit right in on sekiro with deflecting water fowl.
i can confirm this works as of november 2020
i had attack power 19
i copied this for the first 3 stages then for last phase i just absorbed his jump attack and hit him with my umbrella .
finished with 4 gourds
i didnt have divine snow and it did take several attempts but my point is it does work
That's amazing. I ever think can defeat him by pro-tool easy like that
Just started on this. My vitality is 19 and my attack is 18. I have the snow rice but I dont have any of the sweet rice. I do have Juizo statue to use to resurrect so I'll give that a try
The guy is having a feast while is shin is trying to kill him
As of June 28th 2022 this no longer works, the axe barley does posture damage and even when it does he regains all of it so fast. He also tanks through the axe as well now
This only works with attack power 23, I'm at attack power 11.
Is there any way to get the sweet rice ball if I'm upto the ishin fight already?
I just beat this boss first time last weekend and I never knew someone so INFURIATING, could be bossed around like this.
Your colors look so nice. Mine, and most are more dull
Brightness up
Saturation up
Amazingly done
I've never seen someone use Tanto three times in a single match
I just can’t get this to work, third phase. I don’t have access to my other rice cake as I accidentally use it. Guess I’ll have to try another time.
my man just went full kamikaze with that axe
Best cheese ive seen ! 😱👍
Phase 1: punish genichiro for copying our mortal blade by poking him twice from behind, and baiting the mikiri by stepping back each time and poking him after he does it
Phase 2: perfect deflect the 1st 3 strikes of isshin and then poke him twice, and deflect again, if he does any special moves just dodge, try to mikiri if possible
Phase 3: use umbrella to block his overhead rush/his gun, and then use the upgraded attack to send back the damage
Phase 4: same as phase 3 with the exception of lightning attacks.
good luck
Do you need lazurite axe because I need one more lapiz and can’t get it on this play through have to wait till ng+
That axe is incredible !!!!
Does this work with the fire ax too? I need to get another playthrough to make the lazulite one.
bro jjust used everything from his inventory
The umbrella technique cheese is still the easiest, even if it does take a little longer. I didnt realise you could use the blade more than once which is helpful
No. No it's not because the umbrella by the time u get to lightning phase has 1 or 2 uses left unless your using ranto which means u need to be good enough to use it in combat and not die and not need healing itmes your nuts
@tylercrain2831 I think I only started using it for the second stage
Can I attempt this with normal rice and sweet rice ball? Because I dont have fine snow since I didnt do the questline.
Sure, just make sure you don't get hit much :). I would save the sweet rice for phase 4.
@@arthdenton Thanks man. This guy has made me quit for 3 weeks, since nothing I was throwing at him was working. This looks incredibly promising, I'll get the scales for dragon mask then xp grind to 23 atk power
Thanks!
@@hamzahussain7794The need for a higher atk power, and you may be able to do it with less than 23, is because Genichiro can stay stunlocked for 3 axe blows so if you do not kill him in 3 he jumps and things can get more complicated. Isshin can be hit twice in phase 2 before you need to dodge but phase 2 is probably the easiest. Phase 3 is where you win the encounter because on phase 4, with the sweet rice and the eel liver you are practically unkillable for 30 seconds which is enough time to kill him.
Oh, and a high attack power is not necessarily a wasted grind because NG+ is so much fun if you start it at 24.
@@arthdenton Thanks man, this guy is beating my face so hard, when I started the game I was so hyped and excited to plat and go ng+ and all but this guy has just made me want to finish the game and be done with it.
Many thanks for the guide! I will follow it and maybe just maybe I find that spark to go ng+ :)
@@hamzahussain7794 If you save your game BEFORE talking to Kuro after defeating Isshin, you can do 3 endings in this NG. Assuming you killed Owl father.
So you save your game then do 'ending 1', reload from save and do 'ending 2', reload again from save and do 'ending 3'.
is it lazulite axe?
Do you need to have the blue axe for this
It definitely makes the biggest difference. The fire axe is a close second
You basically destroyed his guard. Very nice strategy!
Is it harder to do this cheese without Lapis axe?
Can i use normal axe i dont have any upgrades
if i have the fire axe will it work
grinding to 23 atk now, so far i levelled up to 17
Edit: 22 now, just one to go
you: *eating rice balls and cutting yourself with a dagger*
isshin: "HESTATION IS DEFEAT SEKIRO!"
you: *starts eating rice balls faster*
Too good lmfao also fun af xD
What level was your attack?
Do I need the lazurite axe
oh i think you missed the red lump....it would've made your cheese a whole lot better...and, haha, the first Sekiro cheese tutorial i've watched to actually use an eel liver! Who uses those??
R you on ng+?
Goes from being Genichiro Ashina 2.0 to armored warrior 2.0 lmao 🤣
How does he make this work. Everytime I parry the first attack and use my axe he hits me with his second swing
You need to be super-aggressive. Be the one who does the 'first attack' so you don't need to parry. Then attack some more. The 'strategy' if there is one, is to overwhelm the enemy at the cost of you taking some damage - and you eat your rice for that.
What attack strength do you have ?
this works only with Attack power pimped, went on regular AP 13 for Ng1 and you can barely arrive to phase 4
isn´t this how your supposed to do it? either this or just use mortal blade
I wish the demon bell gave every enemy in the game an extra 5 deathblows before dying, I'm a sucker punishment.
Great strategy. Although most players will not have 23 attack power on their first playthough.. that makes a huge difference. I am on 13 attack power and no wonder I'm having a hard time.
I was the same with 13 attack power I was stuck on this boss fight for 2 days trying all different strategies, now I'm grinding to get my attack power to 25 just so I can triumph this boss lol
@@diongabb2505 I have no idea how I did it but I beat the game heavily underpowered lol
@@smezbuilds9897 my attack power is 11 lmao
Can you please put step by step in the description having a hard time beating him?
what’s the axe called can’t find it anywhere. on any guides. on how to find it our it’s name
Lazulite axe
Any axe work or nah
How tf yhu get the axe like dat
Instructions unclear, still getting my ass beat by an old man
edit: Beaten him last week.
Excuse me. Are the buffs all necessary or is it possible to do this without them?
Buffs were essential in my case because I am not very good. :)
@@arthdenton Just to say I used this technique in the first two stages and it was essentially a breeze. Then I used mortal draw after his jump attacks in the final stages. So just defeated him. Thankyou very much. ☺️👍
Best of All 🏃
Where’d you get the snow rice thing
Fine snow i mean
@@gsaucylifts9026u need to fulfil the Dragon’s Return ending quest by the Divine Child of Rejuvenation. The girl you meet where you got the Mortal Blade. Completing the quest will upgrade her Rice to Fine Snow and unlock the Dragon’s Return ending.
Ignorance is very bad. I has spend all my rice balls in nothing, now I don't have.
Why lazalite axe over burning axe?
pretty sure because lazalite can hit enemies even when they are guarding
Posture damage
So..no mikiri counter?
Hmm I have 24 Attack power and still im not doing as much posture damage as you with buffs. Am I missing something?
Don't know. Maybe they nerfed the Lazulite Axe since this video was made?
Everything I used for gear and buffs is documented in the video and the notes.
@@arthdenton I'm gonna try that again later. Maybe it's nerfed, maybe I'm not being aggressive enough. But thanks for replying anyway!
Lmaooo all my memorization was in vain
I did it - works on patch 1.04!
Good job :))
Do you need to have lazulite axe?
As far as I remember I had this upgrade but with all the buffs shown in the video it is not necessary.
What was your attack power?
how does he have attack 23!!??
James Booker oh, so i guess i need to do A LOT more grinding. i’m only attack level 11
James Booker oh ok, well i already beat him and now i’m on my second run! only problem is i feel like i’m skipping some bosses (not on purpose) because i know just where to go so i don’t have to wander around.
@@luciferr6392 I have attack lvl 40 on like ng+3 lel
Good that nobody gives a shit
Does it actually work
I can’t get rice this is a little harder for me too bad I suck
hi, have you got some technique for the owl, on hirata?
There are many videos on it. TBH, I don't remember exactly how I did it. I do remember that I left it for last, right before the Sword Saint because it was the hardest one for me. And there was no cheese for it.
I know I'm late but if you still can't beat him, I beat him using Mortal Draw. Memorize his moves and use Mortal Draw whenever you can. He had beaten my ass too for a long time but once I decided to use the Mortal Draw the fight became a joke. It helps that I had memorized his attacks too, lol.
Great strategy. That axe is broken tho.
Good job but tell us that u have 23 p. Attack
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Attack power 23??? Wtf what ng+ number is this?
You can reach 14 in your first playthrough if you do all bosses. Furthermore, there is an item which allows you to trade skill points for more attack power. In other words, 23 is easily doable in the first ng+ run and with insane grinding even in the very first playthrough.
Holy shit
Does anyone know his attack power? I was grinding, got to 25 attack power. Foolishly thinking it was gonna be a breeze. 3 days later I finally decide to look for help. Edit: so this fight is a breeze with this strategy AND if your attack power is at 26. Buffs just make it that much easier
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20 -Vitality
23 - Attack Power
im like 25+ attack on ng+ and at this point Im just going to have to git gud and fight him the normal attack/deflect way
I think part of this is the fact that this guy is also just good at the game
2:10 🤣🤣🔥
Do you need the blue add?
Axe