Rizzo HATED watching *Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory*
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- Reaction Commentary to "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" (1971) starring: Gene Wilder, Peter Ostrum, Denise Nickerson, Paris Themmen, Julie Dawn Cole, Michael Bollner, Jack Alberton || Based on "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" by Roald Dahl #WillyWonka #Wonka #charlieandthechocolatefactory
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The girl who played Veruca Salt was apparently quite sweet and worried Gene Wilder wouldn’t like her because of how awful and loud she had to be. But apparently she made him laugh a lot with her outrageous performance.
Aww that's adorable 🥺
Awe that’s cute lol
I remember an interview where the actress remembers the director telling her to be nastier. And she'd do a take, but the director would tell her to be nastier.
Apparently she was the only kid who didn't have her family around for shooting (she only had a sort of studio appointed baby sitter) so Gene and the actor who played Grandpa Joe became her default parents and made sure she was ok.
Was not expecting Benji to use “f*ck that n**ga” in reference of Grandpa Joe of ALL characters they’ve experienced, but here we are😂😂
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@@PinkPopcastOMFG!!! LOVED it! Had to watch it 5 times!!!
The scream I let out when he said it 😂
But Benji is RIGHT! Have you see the SNL skit where Kristen Stewart plays Charlie? I feel the same way. Grandpa Joe is an awful person
We can all agree that the director was definitely on something right
Acid..
Ofc it was the 70s bruh 😂
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@@MonkJade yes 100%
Have you met the 70s? Everyone was on something.
"I think that the real chocolate factory is the friends we made along the way 🍫❤"
- Rizzo (2023)
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Fun Fact: The author of the book hated this movie because they didn't follow any of his instructions so when they made the newer one they followed all of his notes (he was already dead back then) so the newer one ended up being way more book accurate and makes way more sense because of it. So at the end what really matters is what makes the original author happy and ig we'll never know what that is since he is dead
no one cares about the author, anyone who cares about the author because it didn't follow the book are the type of nerds who people hate, there is something called an adaptation and also, the tim Burton one is trash.
@@aznthy this is a very angry and aggressive rebuttal
I'm not sure if what matters is that the original author is happy (see: The Shining) and the book is pretty dicey anyway, but now we have a few versions and what matters is that there's a version for, if not everyone, many people. But I really like your explanation.
Roald Dahl was a trash person
Yeah, I remember being upset when they changed the name to Charlie and the chocolate factory until I found out that it was more book accurate than the original lol
13:02 Interesting enough, Roald Dahl actually conceived The character of Charlie as a little, British black boy (revealed by his widow, Felicity Dahl). But uh… his agent/editors didn’t “care for” that so they persuaded him to change Charlie to white
Of course they did 🙃
Well goddamn it!!!! Tale as old as time, unfortunately
That's actually kind of heartbreaking wtf. People smh
I'm on the editors side on this one. It would've been really weird for a little black British boy to when a factory staffed entirely by an African pygmy tribe (what Oompa Loompa's originally were.)
@@kenzij as opposed to a white kid who would grow up to perpetuate that power dynamic when he took over the Wonka empire? I personally think that would be a really interesting story line to explore: Black kid is weirded out by the presence of the Oompa Loompa's but wouldn't be surprised in how they got there (because he's BLACK and BRITISH lol). He has the lived experience to question that Wonka tells him about Oompa Land and the ability to repair the harm that Willy likely caused. I could see a black Charlie growing up and freeing the Oompas or paying them handsomely for their labor and giving each to the choice to leave or stay and be treated fairly. Matter of fact, I need Jordan Peele to direct it❤
Thank you for that grandpa Joe rant 😂
No problem 🫡
The Grampa Joe depiction is actually a great look into the mindset of how people viewed disability at the time and a bit of what still lingers now. Its was "all in peoples heads," disability was "people being weaked willed by letting negative emotions/circumstances get the better of them", "they could work if they really needed to. The help they are given just holds them back," or more kindly, "a bit of hope, happiness, and kindness would go a long way towards seeing them right again." From a modern view with a better understanding of disability and illness it comes off as him being a horrible leech (which does its own harm due to disability stereotypes) but for a long time people really did beleive that health could change this quickly if only the persons mindset was right. What the right mindset was varied in peoples view but yeah. If you look back so many health condition were blamed on or said to be heavily influenced by the persons gender, emotions, or mindset rather than doctors admitting they had no clue.
If only more doctors could admit when they had no clue so we could get some real answers
This but with mental health too
As a chronically ill, disabled person. It is very much still the same today.
While not physically disabled myself, I have a lot of friends and family with prior ailments that I’ve had to watch get waved away by the American Healthcare System. I wish there was a way for us to band together and take care of each other 🥺
Rizzo-you’re totally allowed to not like something just because it’s considered a classic! Your commentary is always GOLD!
Wishing you, Benji and the rest of the pink popcast community happy holidays!
Thank you!! And happy Holidays to you too!!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS ALL!!
Gold, like the famous Ticket!
People incorrectly feel bad for Charlie for being poor, when really they should feel bad for him for having to live with four elderly people turning that one-room shack into a Dutch oven from Hell with their cabbage farts.
I always find it poetic yet messed up that grandpa Joe is the reason Charlie nearly gets nothing. Joe for years fills Charles head full of how great and wonderful Wonka is but is ready to sell him out in a heart beat when he thinks hes been slighted. Charlie was the honest loving child that will do what he told by his elders. IE Wonka, but also grandpa Joe, he listened to his grandpa and it got him in trouble. Conversely wonka cannot leave his factory to an adult because they do what they want. Joe claim to be a huge wonka fan. Called everybody who didn't listen to wonka names. Children at that. Then turns around and not only doesn't listen but talks his grandson into also disobeying
Uncle Joe was just reacting as a normal Grandparent. He saw Charlie getting attacked and lost his temper. He was a loving man towards Charlie the whole movie. To turn him into something else is stupid. Also the story , at it's climax needed an "angry" Uncle Joe, to contrast with the loyal and goodhearted Charlie. If Uncle Joe did not have that outburst. Charlies act of goodness would be less effective. Good storytelling is more than meets the eye. It is a collection of constantly moving parts.
Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator needs a film adaptation. That is the sequel book that explains what Charlie does with the factory and shows more of what Wonka’s plans and thinking is.
Yeah we’ve had three film adaptations of the first book and none of the sequel the CGI makes a four dimensional movement elevator much cheaper to pull off now.
I would love to see a sequel adaptation
@@grahamparks1645 Three? I thought I heard that the new movie is all original (not an adaptation of anything)? Isn't it trying to be a prequel to the older adaptation of the book? With absolutely nothing taken from anything ever written in either of the books? (I haven't watched the new movie and have no interest in watching it. The older adaptation was pretty "meh" for me. Gene Wilder was great of course. "Pure Imagination" and the boat scene and pretty much everything else about his performance in general were the highlights of that film for me. The songs from the Oompa Loompas in that film were okay once or twice but soon got really annoying and couldn't end quickly enough.)
Anyway, yeah, sequel based on the 2nd book. Get Burton on it. I'd want to see that.
@@MuljoStpho well the Johnny Depp one by Tim Burton was almost unwatchable for me. It wasn’t bad but Tim Burton & Johnny Depp struck a wrong chord. I get the need to remake it as a less musical film for a new era but something authentic, human, optimistic, endearing was lost and replaced with creepy and uncanny valley adjacent that I cannot place. It is nothing against Tim Burton or Depp in another film their synergy would have been right.
@@MuljoStpho yes, Wonka is a prequel kind of outside the books. But it’s a third remake of the franchise and the second one without Roald Dahl’s input. I’m scared what they’ll do with it.
I love Gene's performance. He's so mean to the kids 😅 and keeps up the act right until Charlie returns the gobstopper. Pure Imagination is a beautiful song and who doesn't love the insane boat ride?
Hahah that boat ride would be Rizzos favorite part of the tour
my biggest issue with this is how did the guy who offered each kid a bribe get to each place so fast
😂😂 Wonka air miles?
Money. Or maybe some magic. This is a universe with oompa loompa and geese that lay golden eggs.
It's simple, Wonka said Mr Wilkonson worked for him. He also said he needed to find a very loving and honest child. Charlie is the only one who qualified in any way. Which means it was all set up. None of the chocolate sold had golden tickets. They where each planted. He planted the tickets and is on site when the news crews show up.
@@krose6451 Not to mention the elevator that can go to space and sustain people inside without space suits.
Eh... Movie pacing could be making things seem to go faster than they're supposed to, and there could be staggered timing on when each ticket was placed into a shipment. Could be many months from the first announcement of the tickets until the date of the tour. Bribe guy could have the inside information on where the current ticket is about to be shipped before it goes out. Travel, lurk, pounce, and then report back and get the info on where to go next.
As a kid, whenever my siblings and I were being spoiled or whiney, she'd roll her eyes and say, "okay, Veruca Salt." She still pulls it out once in a blue moon and I'm 30 now lol.
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You’re the first person I’ve ever seen say “once in a blue moon” outside my family and it makes me happy haha.
Rizzo: "i hate musicals"
I want Benji to make Rizzo watch a movie that's a musical but he doesn't know until people start singing
😂😂 omg he would kill me
@@PinkPopcast But the comedy Benji!
Gene Wilder was a great actor may he rest in peace and was the perfect Wonka 😊 (in my opinion) love this film
He’s iconic as Wonka!
I loved Wilder, I had a crush on Wonka, since I was 10. Fifty years later, I still do!
@@jackilynpyzocha662 I've always had a crush on Gene Wilder. In this, but especially in Young Frankenstein lol.
There's a great documentary on Netflix about Gene and his career.
As someone that always found the newer one uncomfortable and annoying, even though it was the one i grew up with, but loves this one, i feel so attacked right now
Lol no need to feel attacked, I love both
I dont really care for this one (love the music though) but Id watch it on repeat over the newer one. This has its problems but the newer ones a bad trip.
I grew up with and loved this one. The others don't compare
Anyone who grew up with the book knows that this version is quite a disappointment. Even the author didn't like it because it departed so much from his story and forbade it from ever being adapted again as long as he lived. The Tim Burton one is much truer to the book.
Just because it's truer to the books doesn't make it better. Especially with Depp the Wife Beater being in it@@oneironaut420
Refreshing for a reaction channel to outright admit they don't like the movie from the start as opposed to pretending to like it the whole time
I figured we'd spare superfans from watching an understandably annoying reaction for them!
I honestly loved Rizzo's commentary. Never was a big fan of this movie but hearing you guys vocalize a lot of my gripes with it made watching this so much more fun.
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As soon as Rizzo said "ummm" I knew I was gonna be cackling. Bahahaha this is gold 🤣
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"Who are those horrible creatures over there?"
"Why those are the Grunka-Lunkas! They help me here at the Slurm factory."
"Tell them I hate them."
Lmaoo love Futurama!
Facts about Willy Wonka:
-The chocolate river which consisted of cream and water scenes had to be redone multiple times due to the cream going bad and the set smelling rancid
-The actress who played as violet had to give up gum chewing due to her losing teeth from cavities.
-During the blueberry scene, the blue makeup imbedded into her skin and was blue for months.
-On the Wonkawash, the foamy suds were extremely toxic and some were hospitalized due to the reactions they had for it.
-The song “I Want it Now”, had to be reshot over 50 times.
I remember being SO stressed out when my mom showed me this movie and the crowd surrounded him grabbing at the ticket. Holy cow.
My favorite gag from the movie is that the piano password isn’t even Rachmaninov it’s Mozart!
That... is... infuriating! lololol
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Neeeeeeeerd!!!!
I love both the og and Tim Burton movie of Charlie and the chocolate factory, but never understood why they changed the geese that lay golden eggs to hyper-intelligent squirrels.
I’m not sure either lol but yes, both movies are awesome 😆
I think the squirrels are book accurate actually. I could be wrong but I thought that was the reason for the change.
I’m pretty sure it’s because it was easier to do at the time. Getting a bunch of squirrels for the first movie might’ve been harder to create so the choose goose instead
@@ranga1catyou're right, the squirrels are from the book
@@ranga1catyou're right, the squirrels are from the book
You have no idea how hard I laughed at the “I’m a giraffe!!!”
Yay!
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Something about Rizzo sounding like an old bitter soul while watching this movie makes me laugh. Reminds me of my own grandpa.😂 Anyway, I somewhat agree with him. When I was young I loved the movie, but rewatching again as an adult you can’t watch with rose color glasses. Oh well, another great reaction y’all. Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 and a happy new year!!! 🎆🎊🎈
😆😆 merry Christmas!
This almost tops John Mulaney's Grandpa Joe rant 😂
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Oh do people actually not like Grandpa Joe? I thought it was a bit.
@curtismurphy6206 I actually do like this movie and I like Grandpa Joe's character just fine 😁
This movie gave me flipping nightmares watching it. It TERRIFIED me. Always thought as a kid that what happened to the kids in the factory would happen to me like when one turned into a blue balloon or blueberry or whatever it is after eating that candy. Only watched this 2 times 3 now. The first time just with my cousins or by myself I’d remember. 2nd was with one of my besties when we’re in elementary school & we were looking for a movie to watch while we ate dinner. Thought I was the only one that was scared of this movie. Love the videos! You guys do an amazing job!
Lmao it kind of is a horror story for kids 😭
This movie was about as scary as the Wizard of Oz when I was a kid. There were only one or two scenes I didn’t like and was afraid of in the whole movie lol
In the middle of this I got an ad for the Bear starring Gene Wilder lookalike Jeremy Allen White which is perfect
Hahah they know what they’re doing
The interstitial references are genius! The Hannah Montana and the Ratatouille references took me out! Also shows the amount of work it takes to edit these videos! Hats off to y’all!
Glad you enjoyed it!🥰🥰
So I haven't watched the reaction yet, but if the title ISN'T clickbait... Rizzo clearly has no taste. It's okay. Some people just don't recognize brilliance.😅
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Fun Facts: Apparently Charlie was originally supposed to be black in the book.
The guy who made the fake ticket in this movie was Hitler's secretary.
The chocolate river in this movie was made with actual chocolate.
Did this give anyone else nightmares to the point they still haven't watched the movie in its entirety ?
Ooh nooo 😭 I’m sure you’re not the only one
The 25 year anniversary DVD has all the kids (now adults) watching the movie together and they recorded a commentary. It’s one of my favorite DVD commentaries ever.
EDIT: Also, this movie was made so the Quaker company could sell chocolate bars called Wonka bars. But Quaker made a bad bar. They melted on the store shelves. So, no Quaker chocolate bars. Just this movie.
most of us definitely saw this movie first, but i prefer "charlie and the chocolate factory (2005)." even Roald Dahl didnt like this rendition of his book, due to its unnecessary changes that he didnt like. With his wife giving imput in modern remakes gives a better outlook to what Roald wanted, and sharing his vision. I have seen "Wonka" and loved it.
p.s. i always thought that wonka was a magician/wizard, as to the ingredients he put into his confections, and the effects they had.
We just saw Wonka too, we really liked it ❤️
I just have to say that I absolutely adore you two. You guys are the funniest people on the planet. I never get tired of almost dying of laughter when I watch your videos. ❤❤❤❤
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This movie is cool. A lot of dark humor and it's fantastical and weird. Gene played the balance so well.
I watched a video about Roald Dahl and it said that he used to be a spy? He was a Honeypot, meaning he would go and seduce bored general's and statesman's wives to get information during pillow talk 👀 Crazy if that's true.
And then he became a children's book writer 😅
Wow haha big flip
it's also interesting that they were all solo songs, no duets or group numbers
Good notice 😮
Charlie was supposed to dance more with Grandpa Joe during his song, but he was so bad they kept cutting out his parts.
I always remember skipping my vhs to when they arrive at the Wonka Factory when I was a kid because I didn't care about any of the setup. I just wanted to get to Gene Wilder and the Pure Imagination song with all the amazing candy. 😅😆Wonderful movie and memories! Pure nostalgia!
Hahah you knew what you were there for 😂
I grew up with the 2005 version so this one must be an interesting experience considering it's from the 70s(and by interesting I mean probably crazy and weird)
Same I grew up with Charlie and the chocolate factory
Haha yeah definitely has a very different feel to it
Have you seen this one? If not you should watch it
You know what? I hate the song Candy Man in this film but when I heard Sammy Davis Jr. sing it, it suddenly became my favorite song in the world. Someone should edit him into the film singing it, I'm sure Rizzo would have a change of heart then.
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The boat scene was like a psychedelic trip 😂
A bad trip at that lol
Isn't there a theory that Wanka turned off everything in the factory on purpose so that the kids wouldn't actually die? If thats the case, then I guess in this universe, people can actually be stretched out and flattened, or maybe Wonka changed their DNA with his unfinished products.
The Oompa Loompas were originally black in the book. That was changed after some controversy.
I've heard that filming for this was actually awful for the cast and everyone was exposed to asbestos and the foam caused everyone to break out in rashes.
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I just remembered an interesting fact about this movie. When Wonka played the musical notes to open the door to the chocolate room, Mrs. Teavee commented that it was Rachmaninoff, which it was not. The notes were actually from the beginning of the Overture to The Marriage of Figaro by Mozart.
Didn't expect a Shayne Topp from iCarly from Smosh jump scare in this video, but alas here we are. 😂
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Honestly I never really liked this movie when I was younger so very much appreciate Rizzo’s grumpy grandpa energy 😂 love you guys, happy holidays!❤
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NO WAY BENJI *STILL* DOESN’T GET ALL THE JOKES ABOUT MIKE TV !!!!!!
lmfaooo, benji, when wonka says the jokes like “speak up, im deaf in my left ear,” he’s doing it to make fun of how loud and obnoxious mike-tv was lol. the boy literally was incapable of speaking at a lower volume (most likely from blaring his tv too often)
I missed the live chat but I'm stoked to watch this reaction, it's been a fave of mine since childhood. I need to get me some chocolate,goddammit 😅
Hahaha yes!
This movie was very big on authentic reactions.
Gene Wilder took the role if and only if he could enter that first scene the way he did. "No one will know from that point whether I'm lying or telling the truth."
None of the kids got to see the chocolate room until the day of filming.
None of the actors were told about the tunnel boat ride and what would be involved.
The kid who played Charlie wasn't told about how Wonka was going to blow up at him and Grandpa Joe at the end.
thank you for the rant benji! it was so true T-T it was always so convenient grandpa joe was "FINALLY" able to get up for some reason 🤨😐
I have a deep personal connection with this movie. But it's insane. It's perfect
Haha i feel that
I get why Rizzo doesn't dig this one. I think most of my love for this is nostalgia and seeing it with my grandpa (my grandpa was way cooler than grandpa Joe).
Hahah thank goodness for a good grandpa not a grandpa Joe 😂
As a boy who has always loved Sailor Moon, I always love it when Benji is wearing a Sailor Moon shirt! 💜
40:04 That actually was the message of most of Dahl's work. I know this movie deviates pretty strongly from the source material, but that's pretty consistent.
It's like Rizzo is in my brain. This was definitely one of my favorite movies as a kid, however, I hated the cheer up song, didn't like any of the Slugworth moments, was creeped out by the boat, was annoyed by the Oompa-Loompa songs, and felt super anxious when the people broke the rules. So maybe I enjoyed like 10% 😂. I think we have to remember how few family-friendly movies we had access to on a regular basis to understand!
I would honestly love a reaction to the 2000s one! I always preferred that one as well, and I like looking back and forth now to compare the two. Gene Wilder really was one of the best parts of this film, but I think Wilder and Depp are both equally good for the version of Wonka they're trying to portray. Wilder is the trickster, Depp is the wary child.
Absolutely they both brought something interesting and unique to their characters that worked well in their movies
I'm not used to the both of you making so many snide comments, but you know what? This movie fucking deserves it.
As a kid I distinctly remembered the scene in which Charlie ran across the street with the golden ticket. Except, I never saw that scene again no matter how often I viewed the videotape..?
Eventually I found out that I had only watched the other, newer version after that first viewing, but as a little kid who didn't know about remakes yet I was fully convinced that I'd just hallucinated the whole thing. I'm not kidding when I say that it made me question my own sanity and my entire reality for a few years.
Oh yeah and I also had a recurrent fucking nightmare about oompa loompas throwing me in a vulcano and dancing/singing in circles around me while I fucking drowned. Time and time again! This monstrosity of a movie traumatized me more than actually scary movies did and though I'm in my mid-twenties now I'm still not over it
Omgg 😭😭 poor traumatized little you
I prefer Tim Burton’s version. The only part of this movie I like was Gene Wilder.
Gêne Wonka is an Icon!
"And Leon's getting LAAAAARRRRGER!" 🤣🤣🤣
5:02 swifties trying to get Eras tickets
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17:52 Welcome back, LOLA 🤣
And if we are talking about childhood fav musicals I must say I was never a Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory fan (although I read the book when I was a child) my fav was Mary Poppins (1964) BUT I always skipped the bank scene because it made me feel so anxious xD
Hugs from Chile!
Warning! Incoming wall of trivia.
The film was financed by Quaker (yes, that one) for roughly 3 million dollars (today's inflation $22M) in order to get into the candy market against giants like Mars and Cadbury. It was reverse product-placement. Instead of putting something like Coca-Cola advertisments in the background, the film doubles as an advertisement for in-universe products like the Wonka Bar and the Everlasting Gobstopper.
There were two problems with that.
1. Quaker didn't have the resources to make any candy, so they outsourced it to Breaker Connections to make the Wonka Bar, the Skrunch Bar, and Oompas. They didn't agree on what recipe to use to make their chocolate stand out and were eventually recalled from stores.
2. While the film was loved by audiences, it bombed at the box office. Raking up a measly $4M, not enough to break even with the prodution budget on top of the advertising as well as investing in the reverse product-placement strategy.
Three years after the release, the film took to television screenings every thanksgiving on NBC. It wasn't until home video release the Willy Wonka finally cemented itself into pop culture osmosis. In 2014, the film was inducted into the National Film Registry in the Library of Congress so it could be preserved and remembered now and for all time.
While the film went away, the candy was here to stay.
Breaker Connections was aquired by the Sunmark Corporation, which made Pixy Stix, Sweetarts, Fun Dip, and Nerds. In 1993, they were eventually bought by Nestle and renamed The Willy Wonka Candy Company until 2014 when the Wonka brand was sold to the Ferrero Group and Nestle's subsidary was renamed Nestle Candy Shop.
(btw, Wonka Bar is a graham cracker in a milk chocolate bar)
Here’s my read on the ‘lesson’ of the 1971 film:
To Wonka, the Chocolate Factory (and what it can do for people) is the most important thing in his life.
For Wonka to find a ‘worthy heir’ is impossible: No one is or can match his wild, offbeat creativity and his determination to see that creativity through.
The closest Wonka can come to that ideal, is to find “…a very honest, loving child.” And I think Charlie is supposed to represent that idea.
In the film, Wonka intentionally made his test VERY, VERY HARD - because Wonka was trying to discover something about the kids that every man or woman trying to get a date for the past 50 years would ALSO like to know about the person standing in front of them:
“You ACT like a nice package (even though the other kids don’t), but… what kind of person do you become when everything goes to hell? -
- When you’re disappointed?
- When you have good reason to feel betrayed (in the worst possible way) by people who had presented themselves as your personal Knight In Shining Armor?
- When you have an overwhelming temptation to “get even with him, if it’s the last thing I ever do!” (As Violet’s dad Sam says, as he’s led away, and as Grandpa Joe whispers in Charlie’s ear as they’re about to leave.)
To quote characters from another franchise, “Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your Destiny!”
Wonka was looking for a kid who was not only honest and loving, but who had a certain quality of character: a sense of restraint: “I’m ROYALLY PISSED at Wonka and how he ROYALLY SCREWED ME… But in the end, it’s not about him. It’s about me:
I’m not going to have my life be defined by, “I’ll get even with Wonka -I'll make him suffer like he made me suffer.” I’m not going to join the Dark Side.
I’m also not going to change the kind of person I am (and I’ll know I’ll be tempted to do that if I keep the Gobstopper, and go back to my normal life where my Grandpa Joe will keep influencing me in that direction, day after day.)
I (Charlie) made a promise (gave Willy Wonka my word). I’m a kid (actually a man) who will DO what he says he will do (I WILL NOT give Wonka’s intellectual property to his unworthy competitor, or to anyone else, merely because I’m pissed and because keeping my word is no longer ‘convenient.’)
It is like that moment in the first Captain America film, when the dying scientist, unable to speak, simply points at Steve Rodgers and holds his gaze, as if to say, “Don’t let my death be for nothing: The world doesn’t need a superior soldier, as much as it needs what YOU ARE, and must continue to be: A GOOD MAN!”
…I (Charlie) am prepared to walk away from Wonka in a way that keeps my integrity, because I gave my word, and that means something. That’s how Wonka finally learns that he can trust Charlie.
… You know… That is not an awful take! Genuinely, I appreciate the effort you put into this explanation, and I like that a lot! :-)
- Rizzo
This is a good take because I remember watching this movie as a kid and this was my lesson that I took from the movie.👏🏽🥰
I read the original book, which was called CHARLIE and the Chocolate Factory, back in grade school and I loved it. This movie was always disappointing because it was so different from the book. Even the author Roald Dahl didn't like this adaptation and forbade it from ever being adapted again as long as he lived. The more recent one from Tim Burton, which use the book's ACTUAL title, is much truer to the book and had the approval of Dahl's family and estate. I highly recommend it.
That’s one of our personal favorites. We will be watching it (for the 100th time) on our channel soon
Movies aren’t books. They should be different. Blindly clamoring for art to stay exactly the same is why so much bad art gets made.
@@dumbumbumbum8649 The Burton version makes just enough departures from the book to make it unique. If you’re just going to crap all over the original book that made the story so memorable in the first place, just come up with your own story.
The whole Slugworth storyline wasn't in the book. Neither was Charlie and Grandpa Joe drinking the fizzy lifting drink. 34:28
Makes sense lol
This movie creeped me out and still does. I remember they played this in class in elementary I literally had to turn around because I couldn’t watch it I still can’t
Yeesh, yea it seems like this was more of a horror movie to a lot of kids 😭
I think what annoys me about this movie is that except for Veruca's song (and to a lesser extent, Grandpa Joe's), the songs are all emotionless exposition. Instead of being about what the characters want and how they feel, it's all about what's happening right now. And delivered with such a flat affect. It's so different from the way songs are used in most of the musicals I'm used to.
And that's not because the musical is old and tastes have changed, because even really old musicals like The Wizard Of Oz focus on the characters' feelings and wants in their musical numbers.
Speaking of old musicals, would you consider reacting to some of Doris Day's musicals? Calamity Jane is a favourite of mine and I'd love to see your reaction to it!
You guys should totally watch the 2005 Charlie and chocolate factory since it’s accurate to the books since it was made by Roald Dahl daughter and wife
I watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory first, then this one a few years later. So there were some things I wasn’t happy about in this version like Charlie and Grandpa Joe breaking the rules by taking the fizzle drink, Willy Wonka & Grandpa Joe acting as Charlies father figures, and the unnecessary boat scene with all those disturbing graphics. I really like how the new version made Willy Wonka socially awkward who had issues of his own, the new version kept Charlies dad in the movie, newer Charlie and Grandpa Joe did not break the rules, and there were no disturbing graphics in the new boat scene. The visuals were also so breathtakingly beautiful. The Oompa Loompa music from the newer version has such bangers! Although, I like some of the songs from the old version too. A lot of different factors from both, but overall the new version has always been my favorite so I can agree with Rizzo on how inaccurate the old version is, especially to the book.
I'll never forget reading this in class then watched the movie and my best friend and I went on a full rant about veruca in front of the class 😂
Hahah I’m sure that was fun
I can't believe that Rizzo didn't like this movie. It's one of my favorites. I used to watch it a lot with my late grandfather. He loved this movie. Apparently, Peter Ostrum (Charlie), was several of his female costars crush. The girl who played Violet and Veruca both had huge crushes on him. And he had no idea. I wonder if Rizzo would like Wonka. I saw it the other day. I actually liked it. First Timothee Chalamet movie I actually liked.
We actually saw it last night and we both liked it a lot 😊
"Don't touch my daughter! Don't touch my other daughter!" Damn it sir, which daughter do you want him to touch?! XD
Rizzo being someone who gets hung up on the age of a film is surprising to me. Seems like he'd be a classic Hollywood type of guy.
It depends on the movie
I’m less “hung up on the age” and more “don’t let the age determine the quality” 😎 Old doesn’t automatically mean Good, same as New doesn’t automatically mean Good!
I'm pretty sure this movie wasn't the best quality with its effects and visuals, even for '71 standards, which makes sense when you know this movie was made to be a glorified candy commercial for Quaker Oats' Wonka candies 😂
This one is definitely my favorite. Me and my fam used to love watching this together lol
I always forget about the boat scene 😂😂 so unhinged
This was the version I had all my 23 years and I love it. Thank you
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Im so glad im eating chocolate while watching this reaction lol
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Really wanted to see your reaction to the candy man absolutely biffing that one kid in the face with the counter. Sad you didn't mention it 😂
Wait WHAT!?!?
Oh yes! When he opens the counter to let the kids in behind the counter, watch the bottom corner and he smashes one of the kid's chin with it when he opens it. They left it in the shot 😂
Roald Dahl wrote incredible books. I loved his stuff as a kid and still love it now. Most movies based on his work are pretty dreadful tbh. I suggest everyone picks up the books instead
1:15 Oh, Rizzo is gonna annoy me this entire video isn't he!?
To treat your hardworking mother like this....psh, he's Grandpa Joe Jr
I watched this on VHS as a kid and I've *always* thought Wonka was a disturbing freak of nature
This movie used to FUCK with my head as a kid I was terrified of the Oomp Pa Loompas so if my mom wanted to get me to behave she would threaten me with gene wilder and his “freaky friends” and that they would come and take me to a sugar free version the chocolate factory that shit had me shook
I think this is when i started hating musicals! This entire movie creeped me out as a kid.
😂😭i know Rizzo agrees
i was born in ‘99 and i was 5 when the tim burton one came out but i was raised watching both of them almost equally, but i’ve always been more fond of this one, i found it more charming and always liked the songs more but i totally get why others don’t like it lmao it is absolutely batshit crazy
Veruca's tantrums always made me laugh I prefer her to the 2005 actress as much as tripping this movie is looking back as a 28 year old I still love it one of my favourites 🔙☺️❤️
It’s still a great movie 🙌
“Did the chocolate bar just come alive & scream“ 🤣🤣🤣 i died laughing
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honestly rizzo’s reaction was priceless throughout ✨🙌🏻😂
love his cynicism
also love the channel & reactions
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I actually watched the 2005 movie first as a child and the 1971 one later in my teens so I am more nostalgic and accustomed to the 2005 movie~ But yea I had fun watching your reaction ^^
Yeah, the 2005 one is great. We’re gonna have to watch that one too🙌
As a kid I remember liking when they went inside the chocolate factory. The starting to this is slow, but the setting is welcoming.
Yeah, my childhood brain definitely split that movie into before factory and after lol… I guess I still do that
Happy to unwind from a long day with both of you. Honestly the last scene in the Wonka factory when he disses Charlie makes me 😢 and enjoyed Johnny Depps version because it explained the reason why Wonka is how he is…🍫🍬🍭
Great movies both ❤️
Except the 2005 one is ruined by having the Wife Beater playing Wonka@@PinkPopcast
The interesting theory on why everything is split in half in Wonka’s office is that Willy Wonka is really George Weasley from Harry Potter-also explains the deafness in one ear- and that the other half of him will always be gone when Fred died. That’s also how most of his inventions work with the use of magic
It's rare to find someone else who hates this movie as much as I do. I'm happy for those who love it, but I just don't understand the hype.
This is basically a slasher movie with training wheels.
I can’t remember if you guys have done the Johnny Depp version of this movie yet but you definitely should. I feel like it would be hilarious. If you have, I’ve probably watched it and forgotten and need to go back and watch it again lol.
We haven’t yet lol but we will
Oh god no. No need to watch anything with Depp the Wife Beater in it
I’m of the exact opposite opinion of Rizzo in that I love this one and Hate the 2000s remake, it feels like it diluted all the magic that this one had
Haha and I, benji, am right in the middle
Also Johnny Depp is an abusive monster and Wife Beater so there's that.
My senior year of high school, we did a stage production of this version of Willy Wonka, and the only reason I can stand Cheer up Charlie at all is because of the memory of my friend singing it in the show.
the thing is, afterr watching the movie i realized the picked the literal worst line for timothee chalamet to say in that trailer. The rest of it was actually quite good.