How to Burn Down a Toad? | DST Strategy Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Misery Toadstool can be a ridiculous hurdle in any DST world to the point where it isn't cleared at all. In this video I will show you my own strategy for taking down this toad in a comfortable manner by disallowing him to spawn more than 3 sporecaps per spawn phase. If you want to attempt this strategy in your own world I highly recommend reading the rest of this description for the details and mechanics that I don't have time to mention in the video.
Let's first discuss the elephant in the room. This is my first ever video here on TH-cam meaning that I don't have an established fanbase when making this video. The reason I decided to make the video in the first place is threefold. Firstly the video is a response to a question that fellow DST-creator @DonGianiGuides (I felt that my music choises would therefore be in his honor) asked in his most recent video • A 100% Completion of t... around the 21:st minute mark. In his video he hits Toadstool with a fire pen by mistake and during Toadstool's next spawn phase Toadstool takes a lot of hits in a short amount of time from a bunch of bees. This causes Toadstool to only spawn 2 sporecaps which raises the question.
Secondly I have just reached 1000 hrs on DST and wanted to celebrate that by making content on the game and I thought the perfect opportunity to do so would be right after Klei releases a new update.
Lastly I discovered this strategy around half a year ago and I didn't find any videos of it. Since I love to share knowlege with other people in general I thought this would take that to a different level.
With that said, this is my first video meaning I'll happily take any criticism you would give me in the comment section be it about editing, my voice over, my chosen video topics or anything else. I also believe that TH-cam's desicion to hide dislikes from the viewers was a stupid one so I will therefore keep a public dislike button in the comment section.
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Music Used: (I highly recommend checking them out and I will definitely be using similar music in future videos)
Twisty Tunnels MT 2: • [♪♫] Twisty Tunnels - ... by Lorne Balfe
Strider: • Spiritwish OST - Strider from Spiritwish OST
Michikusa 2: • 【無料フリーBGM】アップテンポな和風曲「M... by PeriTune
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Strategy Details and Mechanics: (if you want to try the strategy yourself)
Link to RAW fotage: • How to Burn Down a Toa...
The point of this strategy is to;
1. Make the Misery Toadstool fight way more comfortable
2. Be doable before the first spring
3. Showcase underrated items
This strategy therefore doesn't use any weather pains or lureplants that would make the fight trivial but would require you to wait until spring and either spend a lot of Moosgoose loot or utilize extreme cheese. Instead we use morningstars and fire staves to defeat Misery Toadstool. The morningstar is in my opinion the most ideal weapon in this scenario since it firstly doesn't lose durability by hitting but rather by holding meaning it would deal a lifetime damage of way more than a dark sword for example (it dealt around 50k as opposed to 6.8k). Secondly it deals this absurd lifetime damage only to wet targets which isn't a big hurdle if you fight Toadstool in winter. You see, in winter any creature remains wet forever if it has rained once during the entire season so Toadstool will most likely be wet during this time.
The fire staves are ideal since they let you burn sporecaps from a distance but they are also essential for this strategy. Normally when people burn sporecaps they would put Toadstool to sleep using the pan flute to let the sporecaps burn to then maximize the time they can deal damage. The pan flute is though, imo a very cringe item that everyone uses so I found a strategy where we can deal damage to Toadstool when the sporecaps burn.
You see, if Toadstool has taken fire damage from a fire staff equivalent he becomes a little wonky. If this has happened and Toadstool takes too many hits during the same sporecap phase he is just able to spawn 3 of them (I think it's 2 for normie toad). I then put down some theories as to what may be the cause of this and found during testing that the most likely cause was due to cave lag. I discovered this when I realized that this strategy didn't work when the "Don't Starve Alone" mod was enabled since that removes cave lag. By connecting the threads I conclude that Toadstool gets overloaded by information when he gets hit to much and that breaks the spawn phases consistently. A final question you may have is why I don't just use the torch. The fire from the torch works a little differently to the fire staff so I believe they don't work as well but I haven't tried so I can't answer definitely. Don't patch this Klei please. - เกม
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I believe in a public dislike button! By liking this comment you dislike the video.
Whoops, sry! I originally wrote "By dislikinging..." but it's supposed to be liking since that's a number you can actually see. Sry for that, I know the change is a bit late but I will fix it in the next video
If I dislike this comment does that mean I can like the video twice?
@@WagstaffDontStarve Yes?
Finally someone explains in their video what the big mushrooms do and why it's so important to get rid of them.
Thank you! I really tried to make the guide entertaining and graspable for people new to DST as well.
@-TheChosenOne will you make one for klaus and dragonfly?
@@9DRK I can do that in the future (I'm currently working on a boss rush WR speedrun where I will explain all the strategies I use). If people want to I'll be happy to post dedicated strategy videos for those bosses (and others) as well!
Dude you don't watch enough dst. Every video I seen with the toadstool explained what the mush trees do and the spoil spores.
Scientists have watched your wideo and concluded, that you have a very big brain
I'm glad I kept the Mentions notifications because otherwise I wouldn't discover that video. That mechanic is really interesting, I completely ignored this and I believe many people are unaware of this so thank you for that amazing video. Not only your first video on YT is a blast, but it's a subject no one talked about before and I absolutely love that. Congrats, The Chosen One. I'll add a few words and obviously the link of your video in the top comment of mine. Cheers ;)
I can barely believe you watched it! I've been a fan of your channel for like 3 years and this was my first time attempting to help out the communtiy. Next videos will be a boss rush!
@@-TheChosenOne Awesome, will watch it for sure. Keep it up!
Wow this has such high quality editing/production, how is it not more popular?
Thank you bro! With that said though, I think my editing has improved a lot since
Amazing guide, making sure to leave a comment here so it can spread further. I was recommended this so you’ve probably already been picked up by the algorithm
That's great and very kind of you
This is such a concise and well-put guide!! It'd be really cool to see more of what you have to share!
Thank you it means a lot!
God dam. I have seen some toadstool tutorials but this one is up there to be one of the most useful. May we watch your videos with great interest.
Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful!
Great video! Didn't know about that mechanic at all, I always skip toadstool because the weather pains are way too expensive, but with this toad's back in the menu!
Nice, you should try it!
Hey man! nice video! nice explaining and edits!
Wow, very nice discover! Thanks for sharing
And thank you for watching and commenting! It makes me want to do more of these
You just revolutionised toadstool tech
Wow, thank you all these comments are unexpected in a good way ofc
Great content, hpe to see more🙂
Great strategy!!!
And I thought that it's only a random bug that can ocassionally happen to you. Thank you for letting us know how this strategy works, it looks really cool to do and is very effective!
Glad to be useful! Everyone has been talking about it for a long time so I thought I'd actually explain it from what I had discovered! Enjoy!
Lovely editing style
Thank you, and it only gets better in the other videos
AS WILLOW MAIN AFTER SKILL TREE i can say that this video is one of the most useful in my life
Thank you good sir, give Toadstool a fiery end from me!
Never knew about this interaction with reducing spore cap spawns, good find!
What, Jakey watched my video! Please excuse the editing in the first couple videos lol! Enjoy
@@-TheChosenOne The thumbnail and editing are 10/10
Really, melts my heart
good video
You get a sub and a like from me! Great video! 🎉
Wow, I will try my best to make the sub worthwile
So to boil it down
lighting toadstool on fire after the 3rd sporecap tree spawns forces him to stop spawing more
that information is huge
Indeed, I hope it works for you! If it doesn't try repeatedly lighting Toadstool on fire to get the indicator
Such an underrated DST guide! I never even knew about the whole lighting Misery Toadstool on fire and hitting him a bunch to prevent further sporecap growth, it's really surprising. By the way, does this happen to work with normal Toadstool as well?
It's supposed to! The video example in the description is against normal toad. I used Misery in the guide to show that it works on the harder of the two.
Cool strategy, thanks for sharing! Do you know why this only works when he already has 3 mushrooms? In your description you mention a fight where he only spawns 2
I have 2 theories for the fight where he only spawns 2:
1. Normal Toadstool only spawns 2 sporecaps where as Misery spawns 3 because he is weaker (this I haven't tested)
2. Toadstool got hit so many times by the bees before he spawned his third sporecap that he stopped even earlier (likely as many hits before that as I did the entire spawn phase).
Nr 2 seems like the more plausible explanaition. As for the first question my theory is that it has to do with how many hits you are able to place. If I just hit normally he will have spawned 3 before he stops! I have however had situations prior to this recording where he spawned 4 sporecaps. You might think; why don't we just light Toadstool on fire then to get more hits in? I have tried this and it doesn't seem to work. That is barely an issue however since it doesn't matter how many he has as long as it's not MORE than 4! Hope this enlightened you in some way.
lardee will like this
Hope he finds it
Genius
Thank you, I'm glad I found it and was able to share it.
Instructions unclear
Freezing a frog
Don't you store the frog legs in an icebox?
Really cool strat. Fire staffs are hard to aim on console so I don't know if I'll be as successful. I'd really enjoy some controller strat tips.
I see, I've never played DST on a controller and it sounds like it's hard. I'd have to try it out first before I give any tips since I haven't even seen how it plays (apart from basic stuff like inventory management), but I might make it into a challenge run later on maybe! GL
I'd like some clarification on this strategy. So, you explained that it's necessary to burn Misery Toadstool repeatedly from when he begins his initial summoning of the first sporecaps, then do it for the next one until he has a noticeable delay from cap #3 to #4. Do you have to burn Misery Toadstool everytime in the 15 seconds while caught walking back to the center of the arena?
I was having trouble getting this to work for me, and while I did see it happen once, I only just now rewatched and realized what strategy you were actually suggesting. I'm still not 100% though. What exactly is the rhythm of the fight that works here?
I'll admit it's a little bit vague (it is after all a glitch we're exploiting but I'm happy to give my best explanation possible), and the strategy requires a combination of luck and precision even though the take I did for the video was the first one. When you start the fight you should just fight him like you normally would until he starts spawning. Then you want to hit him once with the fire staff (any time after he started spawning but ideally as soon as he starts).
If you are fighting Toadstool with a normal weapon you should then lure him behind a pond (which is easy now that he moves so fast). Then when he starts walking, you want to hit him again, and another time when he starts spawning. Make sure that he's burning during most of the spawn phase. This should give you what I call the indicator that the strategy is working (the delay between sporecaps like what happened in the video).
If you are using a strategy that hits Toadstool a lot of times per second (like Wickerbottom's grumble bees or a thulecite club with the celestial crown or something) this shouldn't be needed and he will just not spawn the caps (this is more luck based however so I'd advice still using the fire staff as well).
Once you have the indicator or when the strategy is working Toadstool should repeat this delay before the 4th sporecap as long as you just hit him normally until the spawn phase (I don't have any data on animation canceling so I can't make any statement about that). Then you want to tap him once with the fire staff after 4-6 hits (after the third sporecap) to ensure that he is burning the ENTIRE spawn phase. If you do this consistently it should break every spawn phase, but then again, it might be hard (or virtually impossible) to ensure the strategy works every single time since it's a bug/glitch.
The hardest part, I would say, is to get the strategy to work the first place (and by that I mean for a second time since many people seem to only get it once in every fight without specifically trying). I hope this answered at least some questions that you had. Again, I discovered this strategy over a year ago when I was looking for new Toadstool strats after the farm strat got patched. Now that I started youtube, and was recording the all boss variants playthrough, I took a pause and decided to share this first when Don Giani uploaded his recent video where he accidentally encountered the bug. Since then I've just been practicing the strat during playthroughs (not even with rollbacks) and I haven't looked at any code so this is the extent of my knowledge about the glitch.
If you're really keen on learning the strat, the only thing I could say in addition to this would be that you watch (and maybe even study) the RAW footage if you feel like you have the time. You could also perhaps try the fight over and over until you get it but if you do; just make a save before and load if nothing has happened after about four cycles (don't do the whole fight, that would be torture). I am really trying to help you (as you can see by the length of this reply) in any way I can. I hope that Klei hasn't done a cheeky patch or something since I made the guide even though I doubt that given his still broken state. Good luck my friend and sorry for so many parentheses!
Awesome vid! The music is a bit too loud, makes your voice really hard to hear at some points. The rest is fantastic and very informative!
Thank you, that was my first video so that should hopefully have been fixed in the other videos! Enjoy!
in this video you used weaponized warble with the morning star but does that actually work?
pretty sure it has no effects on the morning stars but the warble does affect the fire staves, which seem to be the important part of the strat either way so it's a simple way to save on early game gems
@@cerf7580 This is correct, it's sad though that it doesn't work on the morningstar
Edit: for some reason also doesn't work on weather pains
@@-TheChosenOne likely because the durability loss happens when you "use" the weather panes rather than "attack" something with it, if the panes lost durability when attacking like with a bugnet or a normal weapon then that would definitely get reduced but afaik they do not so
I know what strategy I’m doing from now on
Thank you, I hope it works out for you!
Hi. Can someone tell me how rain works in caves? Like, I waited for winter cause I saw a lot of videos where winter causes the caves to be perma wet, but I spent the whole season and not a single day it got wet. And as soon as spring started, a rift opened and caused acid rains (no wetness for at least 15 days).
Wow that's unlucky! Rain in the winter caves isn't guaranteed unfortunately and is up to RNG. You can't call lightning in the caves to force rain either. Rain is only guaranteed in spring as far as I'm aware and it shouldn't happen in summer at all. Like you said the rain could be acid which is also RNG based so I think you just got screwed by RNG. It's not all bad though since rain in the caves has nothing to do with you being there! I suggest changing plans or order of operations if the rain doesn't come. The only other solution is console commands and specifically: "TheWorld:PushEvent("ms_forceprecipitation")". Hope this helped!
@@-TheChosenOne Unlucky AF. I ended waiting till late spring, the last rain in the season, to fight toadstool. Only half of the fight he was wet, but i still managed to beat him. 7 weather pains on this, seasons of preparation, and i dont want to ever fight him again, at least on this map.
Sad that you came to that conclusion. I urge you to watch the first couple of minutes of episode 5 of my Wigfrid series where I kill Toadstool very painlessly! That strategy doesn't require rain and only a few weather pains but it works best with Wigfrid. Also, good job beating him, he's not easy when things start going wrong!
So why the morning star?
Good question! I use it since it deals 72 base damage to wet targets and with Wigfrids innate +25% damage that becomes 90.4 I believe. Toadstool will also allways be wet since it's winter meaning that this damage will not be reduced like a hambat's would!
Is it necessary to use an electric weapon for strat to work?
No, every weapon should work! I just present it here as the best choice since it deals a lot of damage and lasts very long. Also keep in mind that this was before the elding spear came out! Enjoy!
@@-TheChosenOne oh that's nice! You see, I have a challenging world where I can't leave the caves. I was searching for how to kill Toadstool without Weather Pains. Thank you!
@@PolymerUa That's really cool! Hope you pull it off. You have to tell me how it goes!
Huh... The quality is quite impressive, probably I'm not the first saying that you getting not enough likes here but whatever, you did amazing job on one of the most boring, hard and useless bosses in DST
Thank you my guy! This was even my first video and I'd like to say I have improved a lot since. Enjoy!
I’m quitting dst because of toadstool. It’s just too hard playing alone and on switch. So annoying
That's a bit sad to hear so I'll give you some tips in an attempt to sway you to stay. Firstly, Toadstool is by no means a required boss to beat. The smartest idea when it comes to him is to just do other things until you have very powerful gear like weather pains, thulecite clubs and suits, or some character specific gear like the Enlightened Crown on Wigfrid! I just show off a very specific interaction I found in this video. Also I've never played the switch version but if you have a laptop or another computer you can run the steam version. It's not very expensive, you get two copies per purchase, and I imagine it's a LOT easier to control (and mods). However you decide, enjoy life!
@@-TheChosenOnethank you so much for the tips and encouragement! I guess I was just a bit riled up trying to get it done😂 I used to play on pc and it was easier. I’ll try again after having a break to cool down and choose a different character like wigfrid or muscle man haha. Thanks again!
GG! Enjoy!
Aw man, just 7 videos. Quite a shame
I don't really know what you mean but sure. I just recently started TH-cam so there's definitely more coming! Enjoy!