@@javoronkov same. Ps5 has same soldered ssd, and you can buy m.2 pci gen 4 ssd witch even higher speeds. Depends on what m.2 ssd you r using. Speeds can be between 4000 and 7000 (ps5 soldered is around 6000). So answer ~ same Macbook pro m2 ssd read speeds 256gb ver - ~1700mbps 512gb - ~3200mps 1tb and 2tb - 6400bps So its nothing special. Soldering not making any differience. Just regular m.2 pci gen 4 ssd speeds
This is the only reason why i'm never going to buy a mac, no upgradability, im fine with unified ram it makes a difference but soldering the SSD's is just stupid and 400$? for 1 TB? thats just insane. And believe me i would love to buy a mac, the screen, the sound and build quality is just 👌
I also find it unethical that the suds had to be soldered in, however, they can be upgraded if you get your hands on a set of blank unused chips, and are willing to pay a little bit to have a professional solder them on.(note, you will have to buy the entire amount of storage, you cannot just add on to the existing chips; and the computer will have to be put into dfu mode to program the ssd controller that is in the cpu) I am not shilling for apple, I am not saying this is perfect, but the engineering behind the complexities of an ssd swap do make sense when this is put into context.
I just use small external drives or the SD card slot. The SD slot on the MacBook Pros is very good and you can get a lottttta great use out of SD cards. You can offload basically all of your books, movies, music, onto the sd card and it makes zero difference at all lmao. It's like free upgrade IMO. You keep all the stuff that needs to go really fast on the internal, and then chiller stuff on the SD
@@rondobrondo Exactly! I bought 1.5TB mirco sd card that I use the baseQI adapter so it's basically flush. I store my photos and anything that I don't need fast read write from. Then I store game files and any thing I need fast loading on my internal ssd. You don't need crazy fast speeds for everything. I use a 2TB nvme through thunderbolt for time machine to back everything up, which is super fast (I get 2.8gbs write speeds). Works well.
Keep the internal hard drive for software and OS. Off load everything else to external SSD. Use only the current files you are working on in your internal drive ! That should give you the best results !
@@fabianj6008 Samsung T7 external SSD Keep files on ssd and use only what you are working on in ram ! Enjoy and reboot every once in a while "Adobe is famous for memory leaks"
And render your laptop absolutely useless unless you have an external hard drive plugged in at all times, making it way less portable and more cumbersome to carry around. No thanks I think I'll just upgrade the internal storage.
@@TENOVISION Basically don't use your computer storage for anything that's actually useful, instead carry around accessories that have to be plugged in 24/7 or you computer will only be useful for web browsing.
@@captainuh-oh8355 do you mean you don't backup your stuff at all? because if you don't carry any other storage media (external hd, ssd etc), you won't be backing it up. yes, you can b/u to the cloud, but how much stuff you have to backup on the road.
@@slam5 I backup my files on the cloud or use a drive that I keep at home. Even if I did plan to backup my files on the go that's a lot less annoying because you could keep the drive in a bag and only plug it in when needed. That's completely different from using an external drive as your main drive and requiring it to be plugged in at all times.
Have been dealing with SSDs in enterprise VDI environments for over 12 years. It’s almost impossible to wear these things out in real life. These are usually measured in writes per day and wear levelling helps the wear levels. Some of the early devices still have only used a few % of the write/wear rating. Take away. Don’t worry about it. You won’t wear it out in real life.
So how does it come that more and more QLC SSDs fail that often? I killed within 3 years 2 nvme SSDs.... one internally with using it a lot and the 2nd one externally (as i knew it was because of usage) so my notebooks internal SSD is still alive. Modern SSDs and any other modern flash based storage is POOR QUALITY/NOT SAFE! I hope at least Apple made the SSD long lasting especially since its soldered.
The only problem was years ago when SSD’s were newish (well not new, but newly reintroduced.) When things like trim and wear leveling weren’t really here yet. Now a days their absolutely fine for most tasks with a larger hdd being for files (for me atleast.)
Having a backup is more important than worrying about your drive failing . Most people will never have their SSD fail . I can’t recommend anyone get an external drive to always be connected . People forget and are lazy, so try to get more storage then what you think you need . Always backup your data on site and remote .
@@00700556 "As an IT" that makes no sense my boy. I work in tech and there is nothing wrong with using SSD's dude. They actually tend to outlast HDD's by a great margin alongside a shit ton of added benefits from non-moving parts and incredibly fast speeds to boot. All drives fail dude. If you weren't smart enough to keep multiple backups and locations that was on you not understanding the basics when it comes to backups. I'm always ready to keep the ball rolling, because between RAID, multiple backups, test restorations, automatic scheduling, snapshot ls, etc. I have a ton of room to resist all sorts of failures. Only folks that don't understand the basics get that upset over a drive failure.
@@monkeyfish227 A lot of jobs (especially creative jobs) require external drives for frequent file transfers and cooperative work. For solo usage, internal drives might do the job, but a common rule of thumb is to always have external backups.
Expecting the external SSD to take over as swap for the almost full internal (main) SSD shows a lack of understanding how MacOS and similar OS’s work. Unless you change the mapping. This experience made me lose respect for the value of this video.
TERRIBLE IDEA. You want your swap to be as fast as possible with lowest latency External ssd ain’t that. Plus how do you run your laptop without an external drive plugged in at all times? Battery life will take a hit
Correct developers inherently understand how computers work and that an OS would not place swap on removable media. For years I have always sized my PC and laptops drives so that the main system drive stays under 80% utilization. I have occasionally used external drives for editing and have run VMS off them, but for the most part I use them for offline storage and as storage for a media server.
Oh, did you just learn that this TH-camr is an idiot? Yeh he's always like this about pretty much everything he covers. He seems to just repeat information he finds on other forums or reddit or whatever. It's clear he has no real professional experience in any field related to computers.
Got my first SSD on a desktop build in 2012, 240GB SSD with a 500GB HDD. SSD did most of the work. I retired the desktop in January of 2021, the SSD was still working fine. I did backup any data to the HDD as a precaution. My new rig now has 2 1TB NVME and a 2TB 2.5"HDD, and everything backs up to a Synology NAS. Admittedly I don't currently have a cloud backup (e.g. house fire), but for the average user I don't anticipate SSD degradation to be an issue. If you're on a tight budget and cannot fork the extra difference for the apple upgrade vs the external SSD, then fine. Otherwise go with the apple upgrade and do their payment plan to spread out the cost of the laptop and upgrade. The one TH-cam video I never see are all tech TH-camrs complaining that their MacBook SSDs are constantly prematurely failing. Once those videos start rolling in time to be worried.
I had a base M1 MacBook Air for a year (256GB storage, 8GB memory) and then upgraded to a 16" MacBook Pro with M1 Pro, 1TB storage & 32GB memory. To be honest the only difference is the far more practical display size for what I do (web developer) and not stressing about storage space. Even with just 8GB, I never noticed any issues with performance.
I‘m using the M1 MacBook Air with 8gb & 512ssd but I always miss performance when I’m cutting videos on Finalcut (4K) or when I use lightroom and photoshop…Spotify always stops playing music and the system is not snappy anymore… I would recommend more space in ram and ssd if you’d like to do tasks like this…
hey, im a poor indian student, I wanted to buy an m1 air 8/256, it it still viable? I wanna learn code and will take cs in college starting in a few months
@@yenjun0204 A) I dont want a PC, its not practical for me for the next 4 years. B) I dont want a windows laptop because pretty much all of them suffer some major slowdown after 2 years C) I dont wanna spend a bajillion dollars and I dont game. that's why I though of the 8/256 m1 macbook air, what are your thoughts on this?
This is why I think that in 2022 Apple charging more for base models and keeping the 8 gig 256 storage is ridiculous. For a modern computer base models should be 16 gig and 512 storage.
@@saulgood2366 that isn't the thing His point is that is you are losing more than a grand for the base model of a laptop It must include atleast 16 gb ram or if that seems too much Atleast 512 gb of ssd.
@@endlesslearning26 it is the thing. 8/256 is adequate for the vast majority of MBA purchaser. If you want more spec then you buy another model. It’s an entry level consumer device. If you want more specs for the same price then buy an windows laptop. Complaining about Apple won’t solve the problem. Getting a better paying job so you can afford the upgrade will.
I agree with the overall recommendations for minimums in the newer macbooks, I just helped my sister spec out a new M2 Macbook Air and am building her a Personal NAS to have actual capacity for the multiple TBs of "storage" she'll need between: Time Machine backups, tens of thousands of photos, and hundreds of videos annually. 1TB is way more than she'll actually need in everyday use, realistically 256GB would have been fine if not for the lack of repairability. My solution is Tiered Storage and Network storage for most things at home/Office. Perhaps a thunderbolt dock with 10gig networking for the more serious work at a desk. Then use external NVME or Thunderbolt drives for things to be carried or worked with on the go. It was the best solution for me to more affordably have 64TB+ of hard drive capacity, 8TB Sata SSD, and 1TB NVME, along with some PCIe cache cards all in the NAS and everything else is just running from a Single M.2 except my main PC which has 4 additional SSDs. I've been running my old mac pro, 2 Ryzen PCs, and My NAS on 10gig SFP+ for the better part of a decade now, between some old Enterprise SFP+ PCIe Cards and newer MikroTik Switches, I have a few other computers and a dozen or so raspberry Pis connected over standard gigabit, and My macbook air and ryzen laptop both can connect to the NAS over WiFI or with Type C to Ethernet adapters for higher speed and consistent hardline transfers.
Apple makes the best and the worst computer on the same device. It’s unbelievable how they manage the storage thing. I would love having a M.2 or another format to place an internal ssd. This 💩 makes it more expensive and disposable than it should.
You can use this exact SSD as primary drive by installing mac os on it, it's very convenient because you need to have it plugged in every time the computer is on, but I did it for several month because xCode had not enough space and I could no install it on an external drive.
When your SSD wears out, you have to throw out your Mac - Apple will not replace the Flash Memory chips for you. And some people have reported that their 8Gb macs had the SSD wear out in as little as 18 months. In my opinion, the new M1 macs without the replaceable SSD, are an incredible money-making scam dreamed up by Tim Cook.
So basically what you're saying is to get the base model 14" MacBook Pro rather than the M1 Air or M2 Air if you are concerned with product longevity? As the M1 Pro machine is the only one of the three that has the minimum specifications you recommend.
@@RK-lq2ud It's a creative way to keep a product adorable to those without much money while getting more resourceful people to pay more and extract more value. The proce difference between an 256 and 512 gb drive is not that much
@@jasonthirded maybe not in the US, where I'm from, it's a lot! And a pro (professional) equipment in the 2022 should have 512gb base, or they shouldn't call the 13' a pro, just kill it or make it a Air max with 16', but nothing we discuss matters and apple gonna do what they do.
There is no real reason that you wouldn't be able to swap on an external drive. You just need to create a partition on the drive and swap on it. Edit: Now when I come to think about it. Apple has probably made it really hard to do that because they hate their customers. But you can do it on Linux at least ;)
Always buy the 16GB Ram version and minimal 512SSD bigger SSD means more cells! That will maximize SSD lifespan big time! More RAM = less SWAP! But for most people the SSD wil not be a problem. For archiving, writing on de old HD maybe a smart thing 🤔
I just bought a MacBook Pro M1 2020 with a 13-inch screen and 8 GB memory because my MacBook Air with similar specs (except for the CPU) of age 2 years and 2 months had hardware problems - bad battery, fan turning on randomly, and random flashes of pixel blotches.
Exactly, who cares about wear of phones and tablet storages, those can be hit much more and even worse quality than standard SSDs. I had 120GB drive (80TBW guarantee by vendor) with over 170TBW (8yrs of windows usage with 4GB RAM). Drive was in good condition, no problems. It is year ago I sold that Laptop to my friend, he still uses it with no problem. 150TBW for 256GB SSDs (most usuall value) is just guarantee, not value when it will die. Some endurance tests prove that many drives can do much more.. and much means many times more before first issues will occur. But from my experience, there is about 8TBW/year for daily driver with enough RAM(16GB) and 10TBW/year for daily driver with not enoug RAM (8GB)
Honestly, I was given a 2012 MacBook Pro, and installed windows 10, natively on it. Works perfectly after I got the drivers from bootcamp etc. still updates itself and everything. Gave the old thing brand new life, for free.
I’ve got a 2012 MBPro that I upgraded to a 1TB internal DataRAM SSD. It’s a 13” Retina so the RAM is soldered on but the bigger/faster drive breathed new life into it. It had 256GB SSD to begin with.
I think I’m not alone in this, in that the most I use my external hard drive for is to store dozens of movies or TV shows, or video clips, whatever large files that I want to go back and use one at a time, not as a swap file necessarily. I want to go back and watch the Sopranos this winter boom there it is on my external. That should not be a big deal! Mainly that’s what I wanna use my external for.
Am I the only one who would rather pay the Apple Tax to upgrade my internal storage than carry around an external drive? I don't know about you but the reason I but laptops is because they're portable.
Yes and no. Yes, it's important to upgrade the internal storage, but it's also important to keep that internal storage as clean as humanly possible to get the most out of the performance.
I bought a thunderbolt 3 ssd with nvme inside. Same speed as internal storage. Install Mac os on the external and boot from it. It will use the swap on the hard drive that boots Mac os. It is possible to run swap on the external ssd
My 2013 MacBook Pro was my first SSD computer. I maxed out the RAM to 16gb and 1TB SSD. Its been a great computer and still works flawlessly today 10 years later.
@@edgarmarroquin7304 One time. The original battery still worked, but it started swelling such that the track pad would no longer click. I installed a new battery myself.
If you buy an external SSD and you want to use it as swap-memory: Boot from it (So just install Mac OS on it and forget about the internal SSD). Of course this is only really comfortable on a stationary mac (like Mac Mini or Studio) If you want to buy an external SSD for everyday usage: The mentioned external Samsung T7 SSD doesn't have DRAM and Mac OS doesn't support HMB. So I would not recommend this specific SSD because of speed and wear out reasons. Better buy an high class NVMe (for example WD 850x, Samsung Pro 980, Crucial P5, ...) with DRAM. Then buy a 10 GBit/s USB-C (or better but more expensive: Thunderbolt 40 GBit/s) enclosure for the SSD. The external SSD will be approx. as fast as the internal basic SSD (or even faster when using Thunderbolt)…
Wearing out the ssd is practically impossible in daily or even pro workloads. Your second argument, swap, is also pointless because as you say in the beginning, people shrink their ssd to buy more ram. 16 gb models (or more in newer chips) wont make you out of memory in moderate usage.
I think if you boot Mac OS from the external ssd, the Mac will use the external ssd has a swap because the swap is a separate partition setup when apple installed Mac OS. So I think with the terminal you can setup a swap partition to your Samsung ssd.
I only just found out how SSD dies after a number of writes. I chose SSD for my MacBook Pro nearly 11 years ago. Luckily, it still works. I thought SSD would be at least as reliable as regular hard disks. They wouldn’t invent worse surely? Who let that happen? My fault for assuming better?
There is no internal SSD large enough to store a photo and/or video collection. The real solution for wear and tear replacement and upgrading to a larger Internal SSD is simple: Apple! To bring several external SSD’s is not really a problem, cameras and lenses are not only much more heavy but also taking much more space. Transferring content later to a traditional HDD is still the only way for large files and thousands of high resolution photo files.
okay, okay, hear me out: an ssd the same physical size as a hard drive can hold at least 3 times the data. there are laptops with enough physical slots for 32 TERABYTES of ssd.
I'm gonna call bullshit. I run my Crucial X8 external as my boot drive on my15" MacBook Pro 2018, and it FLIES!! So you might want to do some more testing, bruh.
Now you made me nervous. On macbook pro since 2017, 1T SSD, Ext 16T HDD. My internal is full. My back up is also full at 4T. I am thinking of getting a Mac Mini M2 and a Synology NAS.
Well, your review flawed before beginning by using the external SSD you chose. A Samsung SSD. Samsung and Apple already don't like eachother. Their competitors. Samsung and Apple devices have never really gotten along together. Also, the T5 is one of the absolute slowest external ssd's on the market. It's best to use a NVME PCIE GEN 4 SSD in an enclosure that's Atleast usb 3.2 gen 2 or usb 4.0. This will give you more than what your looking for.
I'm not a Mac user but am waiting to most certainly buy the MBA M2. I'm a windows user still and recently bought my current laptop and an 1TB external SSD. I have no issues with it. I'm using it to run my editing software and store everything. I don't want anything stored in my computer/laptop. My issues come from the OS itself. And I've been thinking of buying new external drive for the Mac and do the same thing. I'm capable of buying an MBA m2 with 16 gb if it's going to be better. I'm not an IT expert or anything but it works for me. I'm an apple user for almost a decade and haven't been disappointed in a way. I hope it won't happen now.
@@CalebWolf Nah, I reconsidered it and won't be buying it. Won't be powerful enough. I'll be waiting for the pro chip to come out. Would be perfect for me.
@@bvrbievampirism if it is power that you need, MBA isn't the way. Basically they're just a glorified tablet with a keyboard. The Pro MacBooks would definitely out perform.
so why did you filled your macbook ssd in the firest place tho ? You can edit or work with files on SSD or M2 SSD just fine, outside some crazy files. But if you edit crazy files, why are you using cheapest macbook there is ? also important thing if you are using many tabs open, use extension to put other tabs to sleep. Those others tabs even when not in use writing and reading files onto SSD
Just be smart. Get a Mac with 1TB and get an external SSD with 2-3TB, if u work on a project u just put all the Project Files on your internals SSD and after ur ready get it back to your external SSD. So it accesses the Files while editing fast and after it u don’t have to delete everything to have enough space. I do it like this on my Windows PC since 5 years 🤔
The creator didn’t even attempt to change the systemctl variable that changes the swap location. The system simply isn’t smart enough to do this automatically. You can use terminal on some versions of OSX to change the variable that controls the swap location. Another method is to use an NVMe SSD in an external thunderbolt enclosure as your boot drive. If you boot the external SSD over a thunderbolt link - it will be functionally identical in terms of speed to an internal drive. The OS will also automatically treat this as internal storage if it’s installed to the drive and use it as swap.
Видео попало в рекомендации потому что я смотрю контент по макбуку. Но также я смотрел и твой канал о монтаже. Очень круто! Великолепный английский, ты учил его сам? Классное видео, спасибо большое.
I have my mid 2017 iMac running the iOS from a 1tb external SSD. I couldn't follow most of what was being discussed in this video, but I haven't had any issues and it's certainly faster than the internal HDD.
I’ve never heard of anyone having an SSD fail on them… By the time an SSD has aged significantly to show bottlenecks you’ll have replaced your laptop or pc already since either RAM or CPU/GPU will become a huge bottleneck…
Lol. A heavily used Macbook ssd is 3% worn after a year. So it will have a life of 30 years at that rate. How many people are still using their Mac IIci from 1992?!
Depends on the SSD! If it's using SLC (1 bit per cell) or MLC (2 bits per cell), it will last but newer high capacity SSD drives are TLC (3 bits per cell), QLC (4 bits per cell) or even PLC (5 bits per cell) which wear out much quicker. Most drives these days are TLC I think. Flash media including SSD have a limited number of writes per block so if you keep on writing heavily constantly to a SSD, it will die faster (like video editing)
I have a m1 macbook air 2020 8/256gb. I am a developer and the only thing I need is more storage. So I bought an external SSD with 1TB and leave it conected to the macbook 24/7. I stick some velcro to it, so the ssd just stay "glued" behind the screen hahaha
Was thinking about maybe switching to a mac if I like the m4 one enough. Then I see stuff like this and it reminds me that I'll eventually come to regret it. Your pretty much paying 2k to rent it and have to pay hundred for repairs that should cost less than $50 max. I do own iphone/airpods/watch, but looks like that'll be as fast into the ecosystem I'll go.
project files to internal and completed projects to external. the internal will only fill if you neglect to complete projects in which case if your internal drive is filled, it's time to get rid of projects with no intent of completion. Clean house and archive externally.
I think very few people are skimping and specc'ing small SSD's with the intent on buying an external for swap/page to make up for it. We buy small SSD because of budget and/or we may have to avoid the BTO lead time, or we're gonna use a RAID setup, or in my case it's because my employer only gives out base models. So what we do is buy an external and when we don't need the file as much we transfer it over to the external and all working existing files stay on the internal SSD. One thing I noticed is the super fast expensive external SSD's don't really benefit most workflows because most pro photo/video editing apps are only writing at speeds of 100-300mb/s and reading at 200-500mb/s anyway.
using 2x 4tb ssd external in raid0 on my Mac mini, did cost me 700 euro, speeds over 4Gb read and write on my base model M2 Mac mini (have my 5Tb Photolibrary on it), for backup I have an external 4 hdd enclosure with 32 Tb (runs at 1Gb per sec), I use that for temp storing large video files, etc. Next to that I am using several external HDD as backup for backups. I use a small part of the ssd raid for installing apps as they open quicker from the ssd raid (fcp for instance). I come from a past where there were only expensive SLC SSD - I have an old IBM laptop that has one (16 Gb)- it still works, no wear visible. I did never wear out any of my SSD's, I can not say that of for several HDD that got mechanical failure over time. True I bought some SSD that arrived DOA in the past.
the easiest way for Apple would be to make the SSD changeable again, this is ridiculous that this can't be upgraded or replaced later on. You can buy it with more storage and hope your MacBook works in the following years. Now we need to find a repair company who will replace the chips on the board by desoldering it. This is just the next idea for getting people quicker to a new Mac.
how about boot from external ssd, and put all the os in external ssd ? they said, it will automatically running in external (os, process, swap)... while internal work as external
Absolutely NOT! My plans are always to push and see what I can get. If I have to reball a couple of BGAs and reflow solder them to a pre-heated circuit board, it’s happening whatever anyone says.
Have a 15” mbp, with a 128 drive. It has 1.5 petabytes(!) written and has no issues. Stop being so worried about ssd lifespan. You are more likely to switch laptops before it ever starts to deteriorate
...And in a nutshell that's why we don't buy Apple products anymore. By removing the ability to swap out or upgrade key essential components such as RAM or SSD storage apple have essentially crippled their machines
Detecting an external SSD as an internal drive depends not on how it's formatted, but on hardware identifiers. Apple would never architect an OS like macOS to swap RAM to an external SSD because that would quite simply cause the OS to crash and burn if the drive gets unplugged, or a USB glitch causes the swap file to corrupt. There are reasons why not everything is a certain way.
eah downloading ur stuff is ok but It just get's worst when you put in a lot of data on it. you cant use an external to do heavy date work flow, such as editing. The indexing in macbooks kill the finder window while reading the whole data for hours.
I have an internal 512 SSD used mostly for system application and workspace and an external 4TB divided into 2TB allocated for Time Machine and 2TB for immediate storage as I keep the icon on my desktop for easy access of files to work on my desktop. When work is done at the end of the day I do a last back up (on top of the automatic Time Machine back ups through out the day) before moving the work back to the external drive. I hardly remember that the drive is actually sitting on my desk instead of inside my machine. It Works Great for me. I have a MacBookPro M2 8GB/512 SSD and I work mainly with Photo/Images editing (Pixelmator Pro/iMovie) and the native Mac Office applications. Clean & Simple.
Interesting video. Here's a workaround - for Windows/Parallels users, copy the Windows VM file onto the Samsung Ext SSD. This works perfectly and saves our cheap apple 256gb SSDs that most of us can't return because the 14 day window is up and the 512gb is delayed for weeks.
43TB per year? It is quite a lot. 8yrs old Windows laptop with 4GB RAM and 120GB SSD had 175TBW (current 120GB drives have warranty of 80TBW). With 4GB RAM it is swapping a lot... But my 3yrs old PC had 24TBW, new one, year old is 6TBW I had MBA with M1 for 8 months, just 4,2TBW, right now 16GB model for 10 months 4,35TBW... 43TBW is about 5-6yrs for me.
I’m confused where you got the 500TB written to a SSD number. Your typical user does between 3.6 - 14.2TB a year. Your looking at 36 - 142TB in 10 years. Samsung is ultra conservative when it comes to their drives. I’ve seen cases where their drives can do 600TB without fail.
Even if you have a 2016 Macbook Air, it still works for what MOST people do outside of gaming and MOST people have work computers. Upgrade only if it stops working, most stores are carrying what you NEED.
I bought a orico thunderbolt nvme enclosure, and popped in a 2tb samsung 980 pro. accessing of large libraries of photos is instantanous. Waiting to upgrade to 4tb solution when they fall in price, and get another enclosure that supports 4tb. Only draw back is the nvme offers far faster speeds that my mac can't tap into. For my needs it fast enough.
Im not sure if I missed it but aren't there specific swap partitions that need to be created in order for the system to utilize it? Like a swap doesn't just happen. I'm assuming the stock ssd was already formatted with a swap, no? So, the external, you would need to set up a separate partition in order to utilize a swap. Even if it's slow, it still would be there to use. It doesnt have to be ssd's, even mechanical drives work. I think the main thing here is to not use storage as swap memory and load up on ram.
macOS on apple silicon is not anything different than any x86-64 OS, they all use swap and how quick swap is depends on how fast the SSD it's stored is. Swap is usually stored on the system SSD and macOS doesn't change when it's stored based on space available, this is why it said there was no memory available. OSes like Linux do let you pick where you want to store your swap, and you could store it in a external drive that is faster than apple's internal SSDs (magic of thunderbolt + nvme)
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Summary of this Video : External drive cannot be used as swap/page file and cannot be used as RAM. Creator recommends 16GB, 512+ models of Macs.
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Totally pointless video. With technically incorrect example with pencil and paper.
Thanks for the tldr, every tutorial vid should have this
I just like to imagine how none of this would be a problem if Apple didn't start soldering their SSDs to the motherboard
Yeppers :D
I would like to know what is the performance gain (soldered vs standard m.2 nvme)
@@javoronkov same. Ps5 has same soldered ssd, and you can buy m.2 pci gen 4 ssd witch even higher speeds.
Depends on what m.2 ssd you r using. Speeds can be between 4000 and 7000 (ps5 soldered is around 6000). So answer ~ same
Macbook pro m2 ssd read speeds
256gb ver - ~1700mbps
512gb - ~3200mps
1tb and 2tb - 6400bps
So its nothing special. Soldering not making any differience. Just regular m.2 pci gen 4 ssd speeds
@@javoronkov The performance gain is that apple gets more money and you get a less upgradeable device.
They want your money, they created the problem, and the solution offered is to buy a new mac.
This is the only reason why i'm never going to buy a mac, no upgradability, im fine with unified ram it makes a difference but soldering the SSD's is just stupid and 400$? for 1 TB? thats just insane.
And believe me i would love to buy a mac, the screen, the sound and build quality is just 👌
@@jgt_ Apple doesn't really care about their customers. So I don't think anything would change.
I also find it unethical that the suds had to be soldered in, however, they can be upgraded if you get your hands on a set of blank unused chips, and are willing to pay a little bit to have a professional solder them on.(note, you will have to buy the entire amount of storage, you cannot just add on to the existing chips; and the computer will have to be put into dfu mode to program the ssd controller that is in the cpu) I am not shilling for apple, I am not saying this is perfect, but the engineering behind the complexities of an ssd swap do make sense when this is put into context.
I just use small external drives or the SD card slot. The SD slot on the MacBook Pros is very good and you can get a lottttta great use out of SD cards. You can offload basically all of your books, movies, music, onto the sd card and it makes zero difference at all lmao. It's like free upgrade IMO. You keep all the stuff that needs to go really fast on the internal, and then chiller stuff on the SD
why is it fine with unified ram ? because other manufacturers started doing it as well? :)
@@rondobrondo Exactly! I bought 1.5TB mirco sd card that I use the baseQI adapter so it's basically flush. I store my photos and anything that I don't need fast read write from. Then I store game files and any thing I need fast loading on my internal ssd. You don't need crazy fast speeds for everything. I use a 2TB nvme through thunderbolt for time machine to back everything up, which is super fast (I get 2.8gbs write speeds). Works well.
Keep the internal hard drive for software and OS. Off load everything else to external SSD. Use only the current files you are working on in your internal drive ! That should give you the best results !
Any recommendations for a ssd for my 256 GB /16gb ram 🐏- planning to use mostly Lightroom /PS tasks
@@fabianj6008 Samsung T7 external SSD Keep files on ssd and use only what you are working on in ram ! Enjoy and reboot every once in a while "Adobe is famous for memory leaks"
That's exactly what I've been doing for years and it works even better in the new machines.
The internal ssd won’t wear out as fast as u think it will, enjoy it
My solution: Use internal SSD for apps and OS ONLY. Use a thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure + heatsink with a large gen 4 SSD for downloads and data.
And render your laptop absolutely useless unless you have an external hard drive plugged in at all times, making it way less portable and more cumbersome to carry around. No thanks I think I'll just upgrade the internal storage.
I ….. don’t know what this means. 🥴
@@TENOVISION Basically don't use your computer storage for anything that's actually useful, instead carry around accessories that have to be plugged in 24/7 or you computer will only be useful for web browsing.
@@captainuh-oh8355 do you mean you don't backup your stuff at all? because if you don't carry any other storage media (external hd, ssd etc), you won't be backing it up. yes, you can b/u to the cloud, but how much stuff you have to backup on the road.
@@slam5 I backup my files on the cloud or use a drive that I keep at home. Even if I did plan to backup my files on the go that's a lot less annoying because you could keep the drive in a bag and only plug it in when needed. That's completely different from using an external drive as your main drive and requiring it to be plugged in at all times.
Have been dealing with SSDs in enterprise VDI environments for over 12 years. It’s almost impossible to wear these things out in real life. These are usually measured in writes per day and wear levelling helps the wear levels. Some of the early devices still have only used a few % of the write/wear rating. Take away. Don’t worry about it. You won’t wear it out in real life.
So how does it come that more and more QLC SSDs fail that often?
I killed within 3 years 2 nvme SSDs.... one internally with using it a lot and the 2nd one externally (as i knew it was because of usage) so my notebooks internal SSD is still alive.
Modern SSDs and any other modern flash based storage is POOR QUALITY/NOT SAFE!
I hope at least Apple made the SSD long lasting especially since its soldered.
The only problem was years ago when SSD’s were newish (well not new, but newly reintroduced.) When things like trim and wear leveling weren’t really here yet. Now a days their absolutely fine for most tasks with a larger hdd being for files (for me atleast.)
Not true I’ve had ssd drives fail multiple times
Did u use enterprise grade ssd?
Or consumer grade?
@@bedroomstudios6232 did they fail because of too many writes or just because?
Having a backup is more important than worrying about your drive failing . Most people will never have their SSD fail . I can’t recommend anyone get an external drive to always be connected . People forget and are lazy, so try to get more storage then what you think you need . Always backup your data on site and remote .
As an IT, I probably will never put important information on an SSD. I’ve went through many that have just died.
@@00700556 Do you mean HDD’s? SSD’s shouldn’t “just die”.
@@00700556 "As an IT" that makes no sense my boy. I work in tech and there is nothing wrong with using SSD's dude. They actually tend to outlast HDD's by a great margin alongside a shit ton of added benefits from non-moving parts and incredibly fast speeds to boot.
All drives fail dude. If you weren't smart enough to keep multiple backups and locations that was on you not understanding the basics when it comes to backups. I'm always ready to keep the ball rolling, because between RAID, multiple backups, test restorations, automatic scheduling, snapshot ls, etc. I have a ton of room to resist all sorts of failures. Only folks that don't understand the basics get that upset over a drive failure.
Personally i like using internal drives and using time machine to backup those. Seems like more work with external drives and the hassle.
@@monkeyfish227 A lot of jobs (especially creative jobs) require external drives for frequent file transfers and cooperative work. For solo usage, internal drives might do the job, but a common rule of thumb is to always have external backups.
My ssd works great since 2010. And I am using it alot. I did a benchmark and the speed is still where samsung says it should be.
Which model did you buy
Expecting the external SSD to take over as swap for the almost full internal (main) SSD shows a lack of understanding how MacOS and similar OS’s work. Unless you change the mapping. This experience made me lose respect for the value of this video.
TERRIBLE IDEA.
You want your swap to be as fast as possible with lowest latency
External ssd ain’t that.
Plus how do you run your laptop without an external drive plugged in at all times? Battery life will take a hit
Correct developers inherently understand how computers work and that an OS would not place swap on removable media. For years I have always sized my PC and laptops drives so that the main system drive stays under 80% utilization. I have occasionally used external drives for editing and have run VMS off them, but for the most part I use them for offline storage and as storage for a media server.
More to the point.. this video and the comments other than yours make me lose faith in humanity
@@thisonewastaken1 Because they are apple slaves.
Oh, did you just learn that this TH-camr is an idiot? Yeh he's always like this about pretty much everything he covers. He seems to just repeat information he finds on other forums or reddit or whatever. It's clear he has no real professional experience in any field related to computers.
Got my first SSD on a desktop build in 2012, 240GB SSD with a 500GB HDD. SSD did most of the work. I retired the desktop in January of 2021, the SSD was still working fine. I did backup any data to the HDD as a precaution. My new rig now has 2 1TB NVME and a 2TB 2.5"HDD, and everything backs up to a Synology NAS. Admittedly I don't currently have a cloud backup (e.g. house fire), but for the average user I don't anticipate SSD degradation to be an issue. If you're on a tight budget and cannot fork the extra difference for the apple upgrade vs the external SSD, then fine. Otherwise go with the apple upgrade and do their payment plan to spread out the cost of the laptop and upgrade.
The one TH-cam video I never see are all tech TH-camrs complaining that their MacBook SSDs are constantly prematurely failing. Once those videos start rolling in time to be worried.
"Stop trying to upgrade your MacBook" but specifically recommends upgrading it in the video? Pretty misleading
I had a base M1 MacBook Air for a year (256GB storage, 8GB memory) and then upgraded to a 16" MacBook Pro with M1 Pro, 1TB storage & 32GB memory. To be honest the only difference is the far more practical display size for what I do (web developer) and not stressing about storage space. Even with just 8GB, I never noticed any issues with performance.
I‘m using the M1 MacBook Air with 8gb & 512ssd but I always miss performance when I’m cutting videos on Finalcut (4K) or when I use lightroom and photoshop…Spotify always stops playing music and the system is not snappy anymore… I would recommend more space in ram and ssd if you’d like to do tasks like this…
hey, im a poor indian student, I wanted to buy an m1 air 8/256, it it still viable? I wanna learn code and will take cs in college starting in a few months
@@chihuhahuana4863 Windows PC can do it, unless you become an Apple App developer.
@@yenjun0204 A) I dont want a PC, its not practical for me for the next 4 years.
B) I dont want a windows laptop because pretty much all of them suffer some major slowdown after 2 years
C) I dont wanna spend a bajillion dollars and I dont game.
that's why I though of the 8/256 m1 macbook air, what are your thoughts on this?
@@chihuhahuana4863 you are an Indian non poor student 😆
For yoink, please use CMD + X and CMD + V to cut and paste. Installing useless apps surely won't help any computer.
Excellent analogy with pencil and paper! Great video :)
This is why I think that in 2022 Apple charging more for base models and keeping the 8 gig 256 storage is ridiculous. For a modern computer base models should be 16 gig and 512 storage.
Ummm My 16” base was 16/512
@@saulgood2366 16/512 shouldn’t be just a pro feature. This is my point
@@JamesEzell just get a better job so you can afford the upgrades.
@@saulgood2366 that isn't the thing
His point is that is you are losing more than a grand for the base model of a laptop
It must include atleast 16 gb ram or if that seems too much
Atleast 512 gb of ssd.
@@endlesslearning26 it is the thing. 8/256 is adequate for the vast majority of MBA purchaser. If you want more spec then you buy another model. It’s an entry level consumer device. If you want more specs for the same price then buy an windows laptop. Complaining about Apple won’t solve the problem. Getting a better paying job so you can afford the upgrade will.
Just boot from the external SSD, then it will swap to it just fine.
When getting a computer I prefer to get one with at least 1TB of storage. Doesn’t matter what kind of computer it is whether it’s windows or Mac
I agree with the overall recommendations for minimums in the newer macbooks, I just helped my sister spec out a new M2 Macbook Air and am building her a Personal NAS to have actual capacity for the multiple TBs of "storage" she'll need between: Time Machine backups, tens of thousands of photos, and hundreds of videos annually. 1TB is way more than she'll actually need in everyday use, realistically 256GB would have been fine if not for the lack of repairability.
My solution is Tiered Storage and Network storage for most things at home/Office. Perhaps a thunderbolt dock with 10gig networking for the more serious work at a desk. Then use external NVME or Thunderbolt drives for things to be carried or worked with on the go. It was the best solution for me to more affordably have 64TB+ of hard drive capacity, 8TB Sata SSD, and 1TB NVME, along with some PCIe cache cards all in the NAS and everything else is just running from a Single M.2 except my main PC which has 4 additional SSDs.
I've been running my old mac pro, 2 Ryzen PCs, and My NAS on 10gig SFP+ for the better part of a decade now, between some old Enterprise SFP+ PCIe Cards and newer MikroTik Switches, I have a few other computers and a dozen or so raspberry Pis connected over standard gigabit, and My macbook air and ryzen laptop both can connect to the NAS over WiFI or with Type C to Ethernet adapters for higher speed and consistent hardline transfers.
I‘m looking to get a MacBook Air. What build would you recommend me to go for?
Golden rule is to keep 10% of the ssd capacity empty. If you don't you will just slow it down and make it wear out faster.
Apple makes the best and the worst computer on the same device. It’s unbelievable how they manage the storage thing. I would love having a M.2 or another format to place an internal ssd. This 💩 makes it more expensive and disposable than it should.
You can use this exact SSD as primary drive by installing mac os on it, it's very convenient because you need to have it plugged in every time the computer is on, but I did it for several month because xCode had not enough space and I could no install it on an external drive.
At 9:14, what piece of software was used to get that info? Seems very helpful and i want to check my macbook! Thanks. 😊
When your SSD wears out, you have to throw out your Mac - Apple will not replace the Flash Memory chips for you. And some people have reported that their 8Gb macs had the SSD wear out in as little as 18 months. In my opinion, the new M1 macs without the replaceable SSD, are an incredible money-making scam dreamed up by Tim Cook.
So basically what you're saying is to get the base model 14" MacBook Pro rather than the M1 Air or M2 Air if you are concerned with product longevity? As the M1 Pro machine is the only one of the three that has the minimum specifications you recommend.
Use a Synology NAS and you are golden!
I've always said that 16 / 512 should be the baseline specs for any laptop 😎
it's unbelievable that we still don't have it in 2022
@@fahimshahriar2622 because, they wanna keep the base price low, 13' mbp is a disgrace, they call them a "pro" but the base only has 8gb/256gb.
@@RK-lq2ud It's a creative way to keep a product adorable to those without much money while getting more resourceful people to pay more and extract more value. The proce difference between an 256 and 512 gb drive is not that much
@@jasonthirded maybe not in the US, where I'm from, it's a lot! And a pro (professional) equipment in the 2022 should have 512gb base, or they shouldn't call the 13' a pro, just kill it or make it a Air max with 16', but nothing we discuss matters and apple gonna do what they do.
@@RK-lq2ud Sorry I meant to say the actual part meaning that apple overcharges for the upgrade
you could boot from the external SSD and use the swap on it
There is no real reason that you wouldn't be able to swap on an external drive. You just need to create a partition on the drive and swap on it. Edit: Now when I come to think about it. Apple has probably made it really hard to do that because they hate their customers. But you can do it on Linux at least ;)
And on Windows too.
Even having only 16GB ram and 256 GB of SSD would be enough if you have an external SSD so the internal one can last longer
Always buy the 16GB Ram version and minimal 512SSD bigger SSD means more cells! That will maximize SSD lifespan big time! More RAM = less SWAP!
But for most people the SSD wil not be a problem. For archiving, writing on de old HD maybe a smart thing 🤔
I just bought a MacBook Pro M1 2020 with a 13-inch screen and 8 GB memory because my MacBook Air with similar specs (except for the CPU) of age 2 years and 2 months had hardware problems - bad battery, fan turning on randomly, and random flashes of pixel blotches.
The internal ssd wear isn‘t reaööy a thing and was debunked by several youtubers (eg maxtech). It was just a bug.
Exactly, who cares about wear of phones and tablet storages, those can be hit much more and even worse quality than standard SSDs. I had 120GB drive (80TBW guarantee by vendor) with over 170TBW (8yrs of windows usage with 4GB RAM). Drive was in good condition, no problems. It is year ago I sold that Laptop to my friend, he still uses it with no problem. 150TBW for 256GB SSDs (most usuall value) is just guarantee, not value when it will die. Some endurance tests prove that many drives can do much more.. and much means many times more before first issues will occur.
But from my experience, there is about 8TBW/year for daily driver with enough RAM(16GB) and 10TBW/year for daily driver with not enoug RAM (8GB)
Honestly, I was given a 2012 MacBook Pro, and installed windows 10, natively on it. Works perfectly after I got the drivers from bootcamp etc. still updates itself and everything. Gave the old thing brand new life, for free.
I’ve got a 2012 MBPro that I upgraded to a 1TB internal DataRAM SSD. It’s a 13” Retina so the RAM is soldered on but the bigger/faster drive breathed new life into it. It had 256GB SSD to begin with.
I think I’m not alone in this, in that the most I use my external hard drive for is to store dozens of movies or TV shows, or video clips, whatever large files that I want to go back and use one at a time, not as a swap file necessarily. I want to go back and watch the Sopranos this winter boom there it is on my external. That should not be a big deal! Mainly that’s what I wanna use my external for.
Am I the only one who would rather pay the Apple Tax to upgrade my internal storage than carry around an external drive? I don't know about you but the reason I but laptops is because they're portable.
Yes and no. Yes, it's important to upgrade the internal storage, but it's also important to keep that internal storage as clean as humanly possible to get the most out of the performance.
I bought a thunderbolt 3 ssd with nvme inside. Same speed as internal storage. Install Mac os on the external and boot from it. It will use the swap on the hard drive that boots Mac os. It is possible to run swap on the external ssd
What if you install a macOS on an external SSD and use this a the regular system. Does the mac still use the internal SSD as swap?
My 2013 MacBook Pro was my first SSD computer. I maxed out the RAM to 16gb and 1TB SSD. Its been a great computer and still works flawlessly today 10 years later.
How many times has the battery been replaced
@@edgarmarroquin7304 One time. The original battery still worked, but it started swelling such that the track pad would no longer click. I installed a new battery myself.
@@lymancopps5957 brand recommendation I heard aftermarket batteries are unreliable
@@edgarmarroquin7304 The iFixit battery I used has been reliable. I imagine there are some bad ones out there.
If you buy an external SSD and you want to use it as swap-memory: Boot from it (So just install Mac OS on it and forget about the internal SSD). Of course this is only really comfortable on a stationary mac (like Mac Mini or Studio)
If you want to buy an external SSD for everyday usage:
The mentioned external Samsung T7 SSD doesn't have DRAM and Mac OS doesn't support HMB. So I would not recommend this specific SSD because of speed and wear out reasons. Better buy an high class NVMe (for example WD 850x, Samsung Pro 980, Crucial P5, ...) with DRAM. Then buy a 10 GBit/s USB-C (or better but more expensive: Thunderbolt 40 GBit/s) enclosure for the SSD.
The external SSD will be approx. as fast as the internal basic SSD (or even faster when using Thunderbolt)…
Wearing out the ssd is practically impossible in daily or even pro workloads. Your second argument, swap, is also pointless because as you say in the beginning, people shrink their ssd to buy more ram. 16 gb models (or more in newer chips) wont make you out of memory in moderate usage.
Dude I like your videos keep it up.
No fluff, no hype, practical advice.
Well done.
If only you were smarter than him. Clearly you are not.
Apparently there is still a procedure (while still working) to allow running directly off the external. That would also be swap.
The only solution to all these choices is to work hard and make more money so you won't worry about these problems 🤷🏾♂😅
Or don’t buy what you can’t afford to max out
True lol. That's why i still prefer Windows Laptop most of the time
I think if you boot Mac OS from the external ssd, the Mac will use the external ssd has a swap because the swap is a separate partition setup when apple installed Mac OS. So I think with the terminal you can setup a swap partition to your Samsung ssd.
do u already try it?
What about iCloud? If you keep your personal data (other than apps) clouded, wouldn't that help keeping available space on your SSD?
I thought Steve Gibson of GRC had said when cells on an SSD fail, they are left in a read-only state, not in a corrupted state.
Been using a 2.5inch internal hard drive externally with usb for my windows profile. No slowdown in boot at all.
Is this still an ongoing issue? The macOS 11.4 update was supposed to fix this but there wasn’t much info on how exactly they fixed it 🤷🏻♂️
Wait… so if I use an external ssd then I will wear down the internal ssd on my mac?
I only just found out how SSD dies after a number of writes.
I chose SSD for my MacBook Pro nearly 11 years ago. Luckily, it still works. I thought SSD would be at least as reliable as regular hard disks. They wouldn’t invent worse surely? Who let that happen? My fault for assuming better?
SSDs are more reliable than HDDs lol, HDDs get damaged by shaking, by dust etc
There is no internal SSD large enough to store a photo and/or video collection. The real solution for wear and tear replacement and upgrading to a larger Internal SSD is simple: Apple! To bring several external SSD’s is not really a problem, cameras and lenses are not only much more heavy but also taking much more space. Transferring content later to a traditional HDD is still the only way for large files and thousands of high resolution photo files.
okay, okay, hear me out: an ssd the same physical size as a hard drive can hold at least 3 times the data. there are laptops with enough physical slots for 32 TERABYTES of ssd.
@@danzjz3923 Yes but not in MacBookPro's and only imagine the price when this can only be bought from Apple...................................
@@peterbuitelaar8543 exactly my point
I'm gonna call bullshit. I run my Crucial X8 external as my boot drive on my15" MacBook Pro 2018, and it FLIES!! So you might want to do some more testing, bruh.
why did you not talk about using external ssd as a start up disk? you have to set it up as a start up disk to use it, not just plug it in.
Now you made me nervous. On macbook pro since 2017, 1T SSD, Ext 16T HDD. My internal is full. My back up is also full at 4T. I am thinking of getting a Mac Mini M2 and a Synology NAS.
Well, your review flawed before beginning by using the external SSD you chose. A Samsung SSD. Samsung and Apple already don't like eachother. Their competitors. Samsung and Apple devices have never really gotten along together. Also, the T5 is one of the absolute slowest external ssd's on the market. It's best to use a NVME PCIE GEN 4 SSD in an enclosure that's Atleast usb 3.2 gen 2 or usb 4.0. This will give you more than what your looking for.
Most external ssd are slow at USB 3 speeds unless you get external Thunderbolt ones .
I'm not a Mac user but am waiting to most certainly buy the MBA M2. I'm a windows user still and recently bought my current laptop and an 1TB external SSD. I have no issues with it. I'm using it to run my editing software and store everything. I don't want anything stored in my computer/laptop. My issues come from the OS itself. And I've been thinking of buying new external drive for the Mac and do the same thing. I'm capable of buying an MBA m2 with 16 gb if it's going to be better. I'm not an IT expert or anything but it works for me. I'm an apple user for almost a decade and haven't been disappointed in a way. I hope it won't happen now.
No...don't buy the MBA M2...are you kidding me?
@@CalebWolf Nah, I reconsidered it and won't be buying it. Won't be powerful enough. I'll be waiting for the pro chip to come out. Would be perfect for me.
@@bvrbievampirism if it is power that you need, MBA isn't the way. Basically they're just a glorified tablet with a keyboard. The Pro MacBooks would definitely out perform.
well you could put mac os on the external ssd
so why did you filled your macbook ssd in the firest place tho ? You can edit or work with files on SSD or M2 SSD just fine, outside some crazy files. But if you edit crazy files, why are you using cheapest macbook there is ? also important thing if you are using many tabs open, use extension to put other tabs to sleep. Those others tabs even when not in use writing and reading files onto SSD
Just be smart. Get a Mac with 1TB and get an external SSD with 2-3TB, if u work on a project u just put all the Project Files on your internals SSD and after ur ready get it back to your external SSD. So it accesses the Files while editing fast and after it u don’t have to delete everything to have enough space. I do it like this on my Windows PC since 5 years 🤔
boot from external SSD. In Mac mini M1, it didn't wear out internal SSD (according to smartctl).
Arthur, your videos are good! Thank you for your work 🥂
The creator didn’t even attempt to change the systemctl variable that changes the swap location. The system simply isn’t smart enough to do this automatically.
You can use terminal on some versions of OSX to change the variable that controls the swap location.
Another method is to use an NVMe SSD in an external thunderbolt enclosure as your boot drive. If you boot the external SSD over a thunderbolt link - it will be functionally identical in terms of speed to an internal drive. The OS will also automatically treat this as internal storage if it’s installed to the drive and use it as swap.
Awesome content!! Can't wait for more :)
Make video on best external SSD And its price to performance ratio you said you will make video on ssd do fast because i wanna purachase it
Видео попало в рекомендации потому что я смотрю контент по макбуку. Но также я смотрел и твой канал о монтаже. Очень круто! Великолепный английский, ты учил его сам? Классное видео, спасибо большое.
I have my mid 2017 iMac running the iOS from a 1tb external SSD. I couldn't follow most of what was being discussed in this video, but I haven't had any issues and it's certainly faster than the internal HDD.
Did the same thing.
I’ve never heard of anyone having an SSD fail on them… By the time an SSD has aged significantly to show bottlenecks you’ll have replaced your laptop or pc already since either RAM or CPU/GPU will become a huge bottleneck…
You've been nailing it Arthur lately. Really love the content. Good luck with growing your channel. Cheers.
He literally hasn't. Legit certified moron
Lol. A heavily used Macbook ssd is 3% worn after a year. So it will have a life of 30 years at that rate. How many people are still using their Mac IIci from 1992?!
Depends on the SSD! If it's using SLC (1 bit per cell) or MLC (2 bits per cell), it will last but newer high capacity SSD drives are TLC (3 bits per cell), QLC (4 bits per cell) or even PLC (5 bits per cell) which wear out much quicker. Most drives these days are TLC I think. Flash media including SSD have a limited number of writes per block so if you keep on writing heavily constantly to a SSD, it will die faster (like video editing)
I have a m1 macbook air 2020 8/256gb. I am a developer and the only thing I need is more storage.
So I bought an external SSD with 1TB and leave it conected to the macbook 24/7. I stick some velcro to it, so the ssd just stay "glued" behind the screen hahaha
Was thinking about maybe switching to a mac if I like the m4 one enough. Then I see stuff like this and it reminds me that I'll eventually come to regret it. Your pretty much paying 2k to rent it and have to pay hundred for repairs that should cost less than $50 max. I do own iphone/airpods/watch, but looks like that'll be as fast into the ecosystem I'll go.
project files to internal and completed projects to external. the internal will only fill if you neglect to complete projects in which case if your internal drive is filled, it's time to get rid of projects with no intent of completion. Clean house and archive externally.
I think very few people are skimping and specc'ing small SSD's with the intent on buying an external for swap/page to make up for it. We buy small SSD because of budget and/or we may have to avoid the BTO lead time, or we're gonna use a RAID setup, or in my case it's because my employer only gives out base models. So what we do is buy an external and when we don't need the file as much we transfer it over to the external and all working existing files stay on the internal SSD. One thing I noticed is the super fast expensive external SSD's don't really benefit most workflows because most pro photo/video editing apps are only writing at speeds of 100-300mb/s and reading at 200-500mb/s anyway.
using 2x 4tb ssd external in raid0 on my Mac mini, did cost me 700 euro, speeds over 4Gb read and write on my base model M2 Mac mini (have my 5Tb Photolibrary on it), for backup I have an external 4 hdd enclosure with 32 Tb (runs at 1Gb per sec), I use that for temp storing large video files, etc. Next to that I am using several external HDD as backup for backups. I use a small part of the ssd raid for installing apps as they open quicker from the ssd raid (fcp for instance). I come from a past where there were only expensive SLC SSD - I have an old IBM laptop that has one (16 Gb)- it still works, no wear visible. I did never wear out any of my SSD's, I can not say that of for several HDD that got mechanical failure over time. True I bought some SSD that arrived DOA in the past.
the easiest way for Apple would be to make the SSD changeable again, this is ridiculous that this can't be upgraded or replaced later on. You can buy it with more storage and hope your MacBook works in the following years. Now we need to find a repair company who will replace the chips on the board by desoldering it. This is just the next idea for getting people quicker to a new Mac.
they should just add a regular NVME slot for SSD in addition to the soldered on nand chips.
how about boot from external ssd, and put all the os in external ssd ?
they said, it will automatically running in external (os, process, swap)... while internal work as external
Absolutely NOT! My plans are always to push and see what I can get. If I have to reball a couple of BGAs and reflow solder them to a pre-heated circuit board, it’s happening whatever anyone says.
Have a 15” mbp, with a 128 drive. It has 1.5 petabytes(!) written and has no issues. Stop being so worried about ssd lifespan. You are more likely to switch laptops before it ever starts to deteriorate
...And in a nutshell that's why we don't buy Apple products anymore. By removing the ability to swap out or upgrade key essential components such as RAM or SSD storage apple have essentially crippled their machines
Can I get the storage changed by Apple ? If yes how much does it cost ?
I'd like to get back the opportunity of adding a second drive to my MacBook. I definitely go for a slow but long lively HDD drive.
SSD CAN be used for Dropbox storage however, but you need to leave it plugged in all the time.
Thought you could format external hard drives to work as internal storage devices. Maybe allocating swap to them would be possible after that.
Detecting an external SSD as an internal drive depends not on how it's formatted, but on hardware identifiers. Apple would never architect an OS like macOS to swap RAM to an external SSD because that would quite simply cause the OS to crash and burn if the drive gets unplugged, or a USB glitch causes the swap file to corrupt. There are reasons why not everything is a certain way.
eah downloading ur stuff is ok but
It just get's worst when you put in a lot of data on it.
you cant use an external to do heavy date work flow, such as editing.
The indexing in macbooks kill the finder window while reading the whole data for hours.
it would be interessting to see installing macos on the external ssd & using the mac like that & see if the internal ssd cells get used after time
I have an internal 512 SSD used mostly for system application and workspace and an external 4TB divided into 2TB allocated for Time Machine and 2TB for immediate storage as I keep the icon on my desktop for easy access of files to work on my desktop. When work is done at the end of the day I do a last back up (on top of the automatic Time Machine back ups through out the day) before moving the work back to the external drive.
I hardly remember that the drive is actually sitting on my desk instead of inside my machine. It Works Great for me. I have a MacBookPro M2 8GB/512 SSD and I work mainly with Photo/Images editing (Pixelmator Pro/iMovie) and the native Mac Office applications. Clean & Simple.
Thanks for the video really helpful and looks great!
Interesting video. Here's a workaround - for Windows/Parallels users, copy the Windows VM file onto the Samsung Ext SSD. This works perfectly and saves our cheap apple 256gb SSDs that most of us can't return because the 14 day window is up and the 512gb is delayed for weeks.
43TB per year? It is quite a lot. 8yrs old Windows laptop with 4GB RAM and 120GB SSD had 175TBW (current 120GB drives have warranty of 80TBW). With 4GB RAM it is swapping a lot... But my 3yrs old PC had 24TBW, new one, year old is 6TBW
I had MBA with M1 for 8 months, just 4,2TBW, right now 16GB model for 10 months 4,35TBW... 43TBW is about 5-6yrs for me.
Where do you find these numbers?
Thanks for this video, I really needed to learn this information.
I got my MacBook Air m2 16gb and 1tb for my DJing best purchase I’ve ever made good video man👍🏾🤟🏾
I’m confused where you got the 500TB written to a SSD number. Your typical user does between 3.6 - 14.2TB a year. Your looking at 36 - 142TB in 10 years. Samsung is ultra conservative when it comes to their drives. I’ve seen cases where their drives can do 600TB without fail.
Even if you have a 2016 Macbook Air, it still works for what MOST people do outside of gaming and MOST people have work computers. Upgrade only if it stops working, most stores are carrying what you NEED.
I bought a orico thunderbolt nvme enclosure, and popped in a 2tb samsung 980 pro. accessing of large libraries of photos is instantanous. Waiting to upgrade to 4tb solution when they fall in price, and get another enclosure that supports 4tb. Only draw back is the nvme offers far faster speeds that my mac can't tap into. For my needs it fast enough.
Im not sure if I missed it but aren't there specific swap partitions that need to be created in order for the system to utilize it? Like a swap doesn't just happen. I'm assuming the stock ssd was already formatted with a swap, no? So, the external, you would need to set up a separate partition in order to utilize a swap. Even if it's slow, it still would be there to use. It doesnt have to be ssd's, even mechanical drives work.
I think the main thing here is to not use storage as swap memory and load up on ram.
macOS on apple silicon is not anything different than any x86-64 OS, they all use swap and how quick swap is depends on how fast the SSD it's stored is.
Swap is usually stored on the system SSD and macOS doesn't change when it's stored based on space available, this is why it said there was no memory available.
OSes like Linux do let you pick where you want to store your swap, and you could store it in a external drive that is faster than apple's internal SSDs (magic of thunderbolt + nvme)
But in a previous video thumbnail you said "dont buy macbook".. Now how comes the question of upgrading macbook if you dont have any
I boot off an nvme drive that is in an external thunderbolt enclosure.