what if the two unnamed forbidden five members are actually Krux and Acronix who, after getting stuck in time, lost their memory, got transported millions of years ago in the wyldness, met the forbidden THREE, joined them, got recognized as fellow brethren, changed their names, and then did all the usual forbidden five stuff. it is also said that the forbidden five were once elemental masters, so.. i'm not insane btw
Theory: also spoilers for part 2 of dragons rising: In part 2 it's revealed that the merge was caused by Wu but I don't think he did it for a bad reason but a good one. I believe lord ras capturing the source dragon caused the realms to be unstable so Wu decided to do something which causes the merge, which actually saved all the realms from destruction, wu even says something about being united in the flashback of pt2. But maybe Wu wasn't expecting the merge to happen as quickly as it did so that's why he was caught off guard
I would honestly love to see the Overlord reimagined, really doubling down on his puppetmaster persona which was briefly touched upon in Crystalized: Always there, guiding events from the shadows, his influence permeating history... imagine us learning, for example, that he was the one responsible for the creation of shatterspin (and the rise of the forbidden five) to begin with. Not necessarily their master or the lycan king or whatever, but just the one who set it in motion, breeding conflict and imbalance throughout the realms. I would love to see that
Ras's master could be the strength source dragon, it makes sense regarding the obsession with strength Ras has, as well as the fact that source dragon energy that Lloyd is a conduit to seems very similar to the one ras uses to teleport.
3:53 Tbh this theory makes lots of sense. 5:58 But Spoilers for Season 2 Part 2... Master Wu caused the merge, so it can't because of the realm crystal
Maybe you should make a different thumbnail for each part with a common theme? It would help them stand alone while fitting into a series. Really enjoyed the video, love to see it!
A popular theory states that the first spinjitzu master used the power of creation to make his children, also the only time where their mother was brought up was in a book which probably isnt canon
Nyas true potential was spinjitzu burst. HEAR ME OUT: First of all, it looks exactly the same as when cole did it in MOM. Secondly, Nya is surrounded by water when doing it. Every single ninja was glowing when they unlocked their true potential, but when Nya did it she didn't, and when cole does spinjitzu burst he doesn't either. Nyas true potential was actually when she merged with the sea in seabound, because she's glowing then.
prob but fi you think about it her flaw/weakness is that she ONLY like what comes easy and in seabound she gave up being human for jay tho so maybye to an extent? (I mean its either jay dies or she becomes from solid to liquid)
Theory: Yang trained with garmadon and wu (that would exsplain his robe being the same) and spell on his robe cursed him not allowing him to become tollaty immortal
I think Ras master is a source dragon that got rejected by the others because of some sort of action he did and that’s why Ras’s master has so much power to move the dojo
Theory: The Stone Army are corrupted Oni and Kozu was the Warlord of Vengeance. The idea is that the Overlord first awoke during the conflict between FSM and the Oni Warlords (according to Crystalized, conflict makes the Overlord stronger) and at some point came into direct conflict with the Oni, specifically an army commanded by the Warlord of Vengeance. The Overlord would likely be able to overpower all of them with considerable ease (though the warlord may have taken some effort) and corrupted them into his own army (the Overlord has been shown to be able to corrupt things in all of his appearances through various means, including very powerful individuals such as Garmadon, Wu, and the Devourer). There are also striking similarities between the Stone Army and the Oni, including completely black skin, demonic appearance, short-legged figures used in their armies, and the helmets of higher ranking Stone Soldiers vaguely resembling Oni horns. The reason why I specifically claim the Warlord of Vengeance (and claim that they became Kozu) as opposed to the Warlord of Hatred (the one associated with indestructable stone) comes in three forms, all of which derived from the Mask of Vengeance. The Mask of Vengeance is shown to have given users four arms, which Kozu and other Stone Army warriors possess. The Mask of Vengeance is also the red mask, which aligns with the color of the Stone Army. Lastly, the Mask of Vengeance seems to be the only unguarded mask as prior to Borg Industries discovering it it is completely unknown where it was, whereas the other two were safely protected, one in the Palace of Secrets, and one in the Oni Temple. Both masks were likely placed there by Mystake and FSM, which would imply they never found the Mask of Vengeance. This is also supported by Harumi and the Sons of Garmadon not acting to steal the Mask of Deception and further their plan until the Mask of Vengeance was found. Therefore, it is certainly possible that the Warlord of Vengeance encountered the Overlord and was defeated by him, rather than FSM and Mystake, and their mask was lost to history until Sons of Garmadon.
This sounds super fun and I really like this and it has me thinking Would Lloyd technically body all three warlords then? Also, I know the history about Wu and Garmadon and then the FSM/overlord and the oni, but now I’m wondering more The overlord is the direct equal to the FSM, just in the opposite way so I wonder if it’s just one big thing idk how to explain The oni wouldn’t have crossed over until Garmadon or the overlord weren’t in power anymore but this next part I’ve thought about for a while. Garmadon talked about how the reason he took over ninjago was to prevent the oni from crossing over. The overlord always had a somewhat similar goal, taking over ninjago but never going to other realms. It’s possible the oni and the overlord also knew something in regards to post crystallized stuff (source dragons, forbidden five etc) although I don’t think the five are that strong and how a good oni Lloyd story could defeat them but 🤷🏻♂️
Theory: loyd was the one who caused the merge. In the season ‘March of the Oni’ loyd destroys the realm crystal. Some people believe that this caused the realism’s to merge.
I was already pretty disappointed when the Overlord returned in Crystallized because Zane literally sacrificed himself to save Ninjago and defeating him. But bringing him back _again_ in Dragon's Rising is just bad writing at this point
I personally like more the theorie that the time blades and the big robot they used for them and something happend to them like the robot run out off fuel or smth because Wu said that time is the thing that keeps everything together
Theory:the reason the merge came so fast is because of the source dragon of time being killed because there should be a source dragon of time but he isnt in the show so maybe his death sped up time?
I hope harumi comes back it would be unlikely but she had just turned good at the end of crystallized and i would love to see her have a full redemption arc
ok my theory is that the merge happened because wu destroyed the iron doom which destroyed the other 3 time blades. That destabilized reality which caused the merge.
I have a theory that wu and raz had some sort of history because PART 2 SPOILERS AHEAD Because wu caused the merge how does raz know wu caused the merge also raz wants to revert it....?
A theory about the increase of elemental powers/the new ones we have never heard of before (Examples: Technology, reflex, fusion, etc) Since we know that the merge caused all 16 realms to merge into one and all that, but what if each of these new elemental powers are connected to their realms of origin? or more specifically Sora's. She is from Imperium, a place that runs on dragon energy and all sorts of technological things that make up it's city, so what if when the merge happened, Sora got the power over techonology due to her being from Imperium, a place PACKED with techonolgy. And this also explains why it isn't like the elemental powers we see from ninjago pre-merge (water, fire, lightning, earth, ice, etc) these are all natrual made powers. And sora's in a way is man-made. Because her city as a whole and it's lifestyle is man-made in a way, its pure techonolgy and dragon powered. So this can make sense for why she has gotten this elemental power for her own, and why it is different from all the other ninja's powers
I am really surprised you do not have more subscribers!! You are pretty funny and your videos are pretty entertaining and interesting, I subscribed after only watching three! Keep grinding, you will for sure get more subscribers
theory: nindroid 2011 is canon and all his adventures are real but ninjas forget about him beacouse he wipe out their memory with some sort of artefact. (yes i played forgotten ninjago game and now im theorising about my favourite non canon character)
Theory 1: the same thing that happened to wu happened to garmadon and he can’t directly interfere with the surface world anymore so he’s having ras reverse the merge caused by his brother Theory 2: the f5 were part of the hunters from chima. both groups are humanoid animals the f5 being wolves and they both committed genocide on tigers in the wyldness, chima being an island in the wyldness.
I have a theory. It might be stupid but i think it holds some water. I think that Lord Ras's master is one of the source dragons. Even the ninja are not shure what has level of power to teleport Ras and his dojo. Source dragons have that kind of power. I know it migt be stupid and that there is no evidence.
It’s probably the source dragon of strength cus he could fly up to talk to his master like a source dragon would do and he said to arin that his master showed him “strength” which could mean his master is the source dragon of strength SPOILERS FOR DRAGONS RISING SEASON 2 PART 2 The source dragon of motion said that one source dragon got killed so that could be the source dragon of strength faking is death *insert el macho I faked my death meme* and in Lloyd’s visions There is a source dragon attacking him could be the source dragon of strength sooo it’s not stupid imo
But is going to be more original that way and plus who doesn't i want to see another old bad guy from the original series? I mean you have to be kidding me
i mean, if it wont be the overlord, it has to be some omniscent being like them, maybe one of the source dragons. But it would be nice for a new version of the overlord, i mean im tired of them too but... theyre always the big bad at the end of the series
I think that the overloard will return but he will use the arjutzu temple and have a new counsel( yang naddhakan pythor and ras ) and 3rd times the charm he'll take over for 1 season like garmadon and harumi
@@MyNameIsWeevie I love these videos so much I had a theory that arin would get Lloyd's powers at the end of dr But I don't think that's going to happen
Do you think Akita is alive? Because as we know in the neverland the time is different but she metnioned that many MANY years ago the ice emperor froze her village but when we saw the story she didnt look like she really aged much so maybe shapeshifter just live forever and she could come back in the future and Lloyd would FINALLY choose the right one
I dont think time is different there I think Zane got sent back in time when Aspheera blasted him but the others didn't, because otherwise hundreds of years would have passed while the other ninja were there and it seemed like only a few weeks passed in both realms.
Hey I just have one more thing does anyone remember how when ninjas were in yangs temple at some point they fell down into a white big whole thing and it seemed like it was infinite but they grabbed onto smt and went back however I am wondering what would happen if it continued and was it kind of connected to maybe another world like the preeminent’s I forgot that ghost land name
I don't remember that episode at all except for the water part, but wasn't Yang just materializing their fears? I don't really think that it was all to real.
holy shit first 6 months from s10 to s11 6 months from s11 to s14 1 year from s14 to s15 5 years from s15 to dragons rising s1 1 year from DR S1 to DR S2
can u talk abt the theory that wyldfyre is kais daughter more like kai and skylors daughter .and that she came from the future as her origin story had a robot in it . can u pls talk abt this!!!!???
what if the two unnamed forbidden five members are actually Krux and Acronix who, after getting stuck in time, lost their memory, got transported millions of years ago in the wyldness, met the forbidden THREE, joined them, got recognized as fellow brethren, changed their names, and then did all the usual forbidden five stuff. it is also said that the forbidden five were once elemental masters, so..
i'm not insane btw
That, actually I like it
Theory: also spoilers for part 2 of dragons rising:
In part 2 it's revealed that the merge was caused by Wu but I don't think he did it for a bad reason but a good one. I believe lord ras capturing the source dragon caused the realms to be unstable so Wu decided to do something which causes the merge, which actually saved all the realms from destruction, wu even says something about being united in the flashback of pt2. But maybe Wu wasn't expecting the merge to happen as quickly as it did so that's why he was caught off guard
Actually decent theory
1:46 for my guess? It’s going to be someone Wu knew and hasn’t told the ninja about. LIKE EVERY FREAKING TIME
I would honestly love to see the Overlord reimagined, really doubling down on his puppetmaster persona which was briefly touched upon in Crystalized: Always there, guiding events from the shadows, his influence permeating history... imagine us learning, for example, that he was the one responsible for the creation of shatterspin (and the rise of the forbidden five) to begin with. Not necessarily their master or the lycan king or whatever, but just the one who set it in motion, breeding conflict and imbalance throughout the realms. I would love to see that
Ras's master could be the strength source dragon, it makes sense regarding the obsession with strength Ras has, as well as the fact that source dragon energy that Lloyd is a conduit to seems very similar to the one ras uses to teleport.
i do kinda think that's the case I'm not gonna lie the golden glow alludes to source dragon energy
3:53 Tbh this theory makes lots of sense.
5:58 But Spoilers for Season 2 Part 2...
Master Wu caused the merge, so it can't because of the realm crystal
Well all he said was that destroying the crystal sped it up not that it caused it
My theory is that there are different tribes of merlopians just like the serpentine which is why Benthomar looks so different than everyone else.
*shocked this is probably the best theory ever
Maybe you should make a different thumbnail for each part with a common theme? It would help them stand alone while fitting into a series. Really enjoyed the video, love to see it!
I need to learn how to make better thumbnails, I might switch them soon though once I get better at them!
:00 they should!!!
Personal theory: Mistake is Wu and Garmadon’s mother
Logic… nothing much. But who else would it be?
Yk agreed
A popular theory states that the first spinjitzu master used the power of creation to make his children, also the only time where their mother was brought up was in a book which probably isnt canon
The realm crystal one seems pretty solid imo, great video bro 🤙
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Nyas true potential was spinjitzu burst. HEAR ME OUT:
First of all, it looks exactly the same as when cole did it in MOM.
Secondly, Nya is surrounded by water when doing it.
Every single ninja was glowing when they unlocked their true potential, but when Nya did it she didn't, and when cole does spinjitzu burst he doesn't either.
Nyas true potential was actually when she merged with the sea in seabound, because she's glowing then.
I agree with the first half but all you need is Kai to fuse with a volcano and glow, then the second half is proven wrong
Half wrong
prob but fi you think about it her flaw/weakness is that she ONLY like what comes easy and in seabound she gave up being human for jay tho so maybye to an extent?
(I mean its either jay dies or she becomes from solid to liquid)
Theory: Yang trained with garmadon and wu (that would exsplain his robe being the same) and spell on his robe cursed him not allowing him to become tollaty immortal
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I think Ras master is a source dragon that got rejected by the others because of some sort of action he did and that’s why Ras’s master has so much power to move the dojo
Theory: The Stone Army are corrupted Oni and Kozu was the Warlord of Vengeance. The idea is that the Overlord first awoke during the conflict between FSM and the Oni Warlords (according to Crystalized, conflict makes the Overlord stronger) and at some point came into direct conflict with the Oni, specifically an army commanded by the Warlord of Vengeance. The Overlord would likely be able to overpower all of them with considerable ease (though the warlord may have taken some effort) and corrupted them into his own army (the Overlord has been shown to be able to corrupt things in all of his appearances through various means, including very powerful individuals such as Garmadon, Wu, and the Devourer). There are also striking similarities between the Stone Army and the Oni, including completely black skin, demonic appearance, short-legged figures used in their armies, and the helmets of higher ranking Stone Soldiers vaguely resembling Oni horns.
The reason why I specifically claim the Warlord of Vengeance (and claim that they became Kozu) as opposed to the Warlord of Hatred (the one associated with indestructable stone) comes in three forms, all of which derived from the Mask of Vengeance. The Mask of Vengeance is shown to have given users four arms, which Kozu and other Stone Army warriors possess. The Mask of Vengeance is also the red mask, which aligns with the color of the Stone Army. Lastly, the Mask of Vengeance seems to be the only unguarded mask as prior to Borg Industries discovering it it is completely unknown where it was, whereas the other two were safely protected, one in the Palace of Secrets, and one in the Oni Temple. Both masks were likely placed there by Mystake and FSM, which would imply they never found the Mask of Vengeance. This is also supported by Harumi and the Sons of Garmadon not acting to steal the Mask of Deception and further their plan until the Mask of Vengeance was found. Therefore, it is certainly possible that the Warlord of Vengeance encountered the Overlord and was defeated by him, rather than FSM and Mystake, and their mask was lost to history until Sons of Garmadon.
This sounds super fun and I really like this and it has me thinking
Would Lloyd technically body all three warlords then? Also, I know the history about Wu and Garmadon and then the FSM/overlord and the oni, but now I’m wondering more
The overlord is the direct equal to the FSM, just in the opposite way so I wonder if it’s just one big thing idk how to explain
The oni wouldn’t have crossed over until Garmadon or the overlord weren’t in power anymore but this next part I’ve thought about for a while.
Garmadon talked about how the reason he took over ninjago was to prevent the oni from crossing over. The overlord always had a somewhat similar goal, taking over ninjago but never going to other realms.
It’s possible the oni and the overlord also knew something in regards to post crystallized stuff (source dragons, forbidden five etc) although I don’t think the five are that strong and how a good oni Lloyd story could defeat them but 🤷🏻♂️
as a guy who loves season 2 and the stone army and the oni,this theory is actually AMAZING
Theory: loyd was the one who caused the merge. In the season ‘March of the Oni’ loyd destroys the realm crystal. Some people believe that this caused the realism’s to merge.
Yep, and it gives another reason to hate him
I was already pretty disappointed when the Overlord returned in Crystallized because Zane literally sacrificed himself to save Ninjago and defeating him. But bringing him back _again_ in Dragon's Rising is just bad writing at this point
I personally like more the theorie that the time blades and the big robot they used for them and something happend to them like the robot run out off fuel or smth because Wu said that time is the thing that keeps everything together
Theory:the reason the merge came so fast is because of the source dragon of time being killed because there should be a source dragon of time but he isnt in the show so maybe his death sped up time?
I hope harumi comes back it would be unlikely but she had just turned good at the end of crystallized and i would love to see her have a full redemption arc
ok my theory is that the merge happened because wu destroyed the iron doom which destroyed the other 3 time blades. That destabilized reality which caused the merge.
I’m not mad at this theory, but I don’t think they’ll do it unfortunately
I have a theory that wu and raz had some sort of history because PART 2 SPOILERS AHEAD
Because wu caused the merge how does raz know wu caused the merge also raz wants to revert it....?
Good point
A theory about the increase of elemental powers/the new ones we have never heard of before (Examples: Technology, reflex, fusion, etc) Since we know that the merge caused all 16 realms to merge into one and all that, but what if each of these new elemental powers are connected to their realms of origin? or more specifically Sora's. She is from Imperium, a place that runs on dragon energy and all sorts of technological things that make up it's city, so what if when the merge happened, Sora got the power over techonology due to her being from Imperium, a place PACKED with techonolgy. And this also explains why it isn't like the elemental powers we see from ninjago pre-merge (water, fire, lightning, earth, ice, etc) these are all natrual made powers. And sora's in a way is man-made. Because her city as a whole and it's lifestyle is man-made in a way, its pure techonolgy and dragon powered. So this can make sense for why she has gotten this elemental power for her own, and why it is different from all the other ninja's powers
I am really surprised you do not have more subscribers!! You are pretty funny and your videos are pretty entertaining and interesting, I subscribed after only watching three! Keep grinding, you will for sure get more subscribers
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theory: nindroid 2011 is canon and all his adventures are real but ninjas forget about him beacouse he wipe out their memory with some sort of artefact. (yes i played forgotten ninjago game and now im theorising about my favourite non canon character)
Who?
@@SonicPlushFanOFFICIAL nindroid 2011 is non canon character from games spinjitzu smash
@@Dziki_schab ok 👌
Nooooooo!!!! i want the OVER LORD to return!!!
Me 2, as long as it doesn’t make it about Lloyd
Theory 1: the same thing that happened to wu happened to garmadon and he can’t directly interfere with the surface world anymore so he’s having ras reverse the merge caused by his brother
Theory 2: the f5 were part of the hunters from chima. both groups are humanoid animals the f5 being wolves and they both committed genocide on tigers in the wyldness, chima being an island in the wyldness.
I have a theory. It might be stupid but i think it holds some water. I think that Lord Ras's master is one of the source dragons. Even the ninja are not shure what has level of power to teleport Ras and his dojo. Source dragons have that kind of power. I know it migt be stupid and that there is no evidence.
It’s probably the source dragon of strength cus he could fly up to talk to his master like a source dragon would do and he said to arin that his master showed him “strength” which could mean his master is the source dragon of strength
SPOILERS FOR DRAGONS RISING SEASON 2 PART 2
The source dragon of motion said that one source dragon got killed so that could be the source dragon of strength faking is death *insert el macho I faked my death meme* and in Lloyd’s visions There is a source dragon attacking him could be the source dragon of strength sooo it’s not stupid imo
I think his master was that one tiger-wolf-like creature that we saw in one of the forbidden five’s flashbacks.
I hope the overlord doesn’t return he is the big bad of original series and he shouldn’t be in Dragon’s Rising.
What 😂 ur kidding right
Agree 💯
@@FireKingAnimations no I’m serious
But is going to be more original that way and plus who doesn't i want to see another old bad guy from the original series? I mean you have to be kidding me
What about Aron Lloyd grandma? I really wanna hear it
Ask @giggleshitter20 lmao
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Part4 pls
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I'm pretty sure my hands of time theory was disproved by a tweet from Doc Wyatt.
i mean, if it wont be the overlord, it has to be some omniscent being like them, maybe one of the source dragons. But it would be nice for a new version of the overlord, i mean im tired of them too but... theyre always the big bad at the end of the series
I think that the overloard will return but he will use the arjutzu temple and have a new counsel( yang naddhakan pythor and ras ) and 3rd times the charm he'll take over for 1 season like garmadon and harumi
It would have been so awesome seeing Lloyd fight with the sword of sanctuary I know he would be very op.
Arin is Lloyd's what 😂😂
great grandmother 🙂
@@MyNameIsWeevie I love these videos so much I had a theory that arin would get Lloyd's powers at the end of dr
But I don't think that's going to happen
I miss Harumi
I think Ras’s master is the Time Twins. Maybe. Pls think about it.
7:06 this isn't really a theory, its more of an "i was today years old when i realized"
The Overlord being Ras master will be an in universe theory. I can see the Overlord returning if they run out of ideas.
I think I saw a video where the writers confirm that Ras master isn’t the overlord
@@brybot3288 thank goodness
0:21 was i mentioned?
0:48 oh, yep i was 😭
Told you I had a plan lmao
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tbh i think that ras's master is the source dragon of strength
I have a theory Kai and Skylar are the parents of Wildfire
2:34 WHAT IS UP WITH MORRO???
Do you think Akita is alive? Because as we know in the neverland the time is different but she metnioned that many MANY years ago the ice emperor froze her village but when we saw the story she didnt look like she really aged much so maybe shapeshifter just live forever and she could come back in the future and Lloyd would FINALLY choose the right one
I dont think time is different there I think Zane got sent back in time when Aspheera blasted him but the others didn't, because otherwise hundreds of years would have passed while the other ninja were there and it seemed like only a few weeks passed in both realms.
Hey ras’s master is the overlord was my theory
I think ras Masters could Be an evil source dragon
Hey I just have one more thing does anyone remember how when ninjas were in yangs temple at some point they fell down into a white big whole thing and it seemed like it was infinite but they grabbed onto smt and went back however I am wondering what would happen if it continued and was it kind of connected to maybe another world like the preeminent’s I forgot that ghost land name
I don't remember that episode at all except for the water part, but wasn't Yang just materializing their fears? I don't really think that it was all to real.
holy shit
first
6 months from s10 to s11
6 months from s11 to s14
1 year from s14 to s15
5 years from s15 to dragons rising s1
1 year from DR S1 to DR S2
can u talk abt the theory that wyldfyre is kais daughter more like kai and skylors daughter .and that she came from the future as her origin story had a robot in it . can u pls talk abt this!!!!???
What if Aron was the next elemental master of creation because wu is dead
Arin doesn't have an elemental power
@@r.p.4531that’s the point it’s a theory it isn’t 100% true it might be true it might not
@@Zenn-GT and in this particular case it isn't true
When is ninjago theories 363 lol we want it fast
the realm crystal theory doesn’t make sense. wu caused the merge but it happened too early. the crystal had nothing to do with it
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