RX 7800 XT and RX 7900 GRE were almost unplayable on wukong with RT enabled and no FG. better stick to nvidia cards if you really want to play with RT on wukong.
I enabled RT on my 7900XTX benchmark and while the settings showed it as enabled the Benchmark showed it as disabled and there was no change in fps. I didn't bother to reboot the client to see if that needed to be done to run it because I have no plans to play this either way and it does specify right in the setting it's nVidia RT settings. As others are pointing out, AMD card owners don't ficus on RT performance. It's not in the purchase expectations.
I am currently rocking a 6700 XT and I will still very happy to upgrade with 7900 GRE. The price difference with 4070, 4070Ti, and 4070Ti Super are almost half considering you're only gaining a few FPS.
What do you mean it's half? What you do get for that extra $50 on the 4070 Super is DLSS, which in this, especially, looks far superior in person. Both FSR, and TSR make the water look very weird, and artifacty.
I ve a 4070 Ti and at times I am super disappointed seeing cards like 7900 gre, 7800xt etc while I bought this gpu for 800 usd. While at times it impresses me also. Like wukong I was able to do 60 fps average at 1440p cinematic with RT high + FG On + DLSS 60%. And at least in benchmark the 1% low was just 62 fps. So I dunno what to say about 4070 Ti just like 3070,3070 Ti of Ampere gen was this is a mixed bag, like it draws less power but same fps as 7800/7900 majority of time with raster. But RT + DLSS + FG it beats the help out f AMD cards. So should I love it or hate it. I dunno.. I am totally confused why Nvidia did this 800 usd gpu witj just 12 gb back in 2023 January
@@kush2023 Well U may say that but I ve played Alan Wake 2 and with FG + RT High+ DLSS Performence + High settings. I was able to play that game at 75 fps average. I know the latency was high probably of 35 fps but it was not at all bad. I really liked that experience and no blurry mess like with FSR. I also found a sweet spot where I can cap at 60 fps and latency felt reduced. Basically I played Alan wake 2 at highest possible graphics setting at 1440p. Pretty sure that the visual experience I got was insane. True many may say RT ain't worth it but in a game like Alan wake 2 it was damn noticeable and I just spent time enjoying the art work. So yes RT is amazing when its done properly but still I do agree 800 usd and 12 GB and just 5-10% better than 550 usd 7800xt is unacceptable Thats why I say I dunno what 2 say about 4070 Ti.
I took advantage of Prime Days and bought the rx 7800 xt for $100 cheaper than the GRE, while only being 10% "slower", that was a great deal on a "premium" model (Hellhound/Red Devil). If GRE is only $50 more, would be better.
@@gameofgames1897 The 7900 GRE is very efficient and overclocks very easily. Also, I have no interest in RT. AMD's latest technologies are great and will only get better. FSR 3.1 is very good and I think FSR 4 will be better than DLSS. I am very confident about the new RX 8000 which will apparently be very aggressive in terms of quality/price ratio.
@@nolanroube1009 fsr4 is going to be like dlss is RIGHT now and it will be bound to 8000 series since you need NVIDIA tensor cores to be able to run IA upscaler. Costs will be up cause of it. On new NVIDIA app i have my 4070 super overclocked to 10% boosts too. My 4070 super is now 5% stronger than a 4070 ti. 7900 gre will not be able to use AI upscaler. The only reason to buy Amd is cause ITS cheaper. Thats all. Ofc you dont care about RT cause YOU CANT USE RT. On nvidia is active by DEFAULT.
@@gameofgames1897 You’re getting mad at someone because they’re trying to spend less while getting more in pure raster performance. I’m not a red vs green guy but god damn you nvidia drones are insufferable sometimes.
In wukong with GRE, I'm getting average of 80 frames on 1440p resolution with graphics set to Cinematic (max) and no ray tracing(will try tomorrow) In some areas I'm eveen getting to 100 fps, and dips are like 70.
Wukong is lying to you about the "Super Resolution" scale. When you place the slider at 75% on Nvidia, it will actually round it down to 66.6%. The true DLSS "Quality" setting. giving them bonus FPS. In fact you can put it to 64% or 80%, and it'll still use 67%. They all preform identical. Same exact FPS. For AMD on the other hand, if you use FSR, it WILL accept the default 75% slider setting, making you think you're upscaling from the same internal res, but you're not. Now DLSS does look better at only 67%, and at minimum on par with 75% FSR, but it still crappy that they did this in a way. It does look very biased towards Nvidia.
Pretty good dude, so finally I decided to buy a RX 7900GRE by some of your videos, I tested a RTX 4070TI with UV/OC and I was getting quite more performance than GRE model, but power consumption is more like the same HAHA, so I don’t play RT games, just raster, and the the price diff is quite big here (around 320usd), kind difficult to buy TI or TIs models 😅 So, with good UV/OC on GRE u can have the natural performance of a TIs, easy to take one or other with that info.
I gotta say at least in these Black Myth: Wukong comparisons, FSR looks noticeably worse than DLSS at all three resolutions. It's both more blurry and shimmery at the same time. I anticipated this would be so at 1080p, but was surprised to see such a difference even at 4K. This makes me think much harder about my next GPU, since I will be gaming at both 1440p and 4K (monitor and TV), and can't afford a native 4K card. Someone in another comment said that in BM:W's settings if you set 75% resolution scale, with DLSS it's actually 67% and with FSR it is actually 75%. If that's true, then it's even more incredible that the DLSS image is noticeably better.
Yeah the hellhound and nitro+ are the best overall compared to all the other Brands. And if you play a bit with overclocking it you can get almost as 7900xt performance which is crazy good.
@@MaxUmbra NO you can't. The 7900 gre can OC to get close to the 7900xt in certain titles. But in actual demanding titles like Wukong that's when the shader difference matters allot, that's when it'll still have 15-30 more fps. Also AMD cars are very unstable OC'd. Tried a few myself. They can release a new update and suddenly driver OC is unstable . Never buy a card because of a POTENTIAL overclock. Many depending on the Memory type they have can't go much above the stock memory speeds on the 7900 gre. People just don't tell the whole story.
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk thanks for sharing. Yeah i got the hellhound 7900 gre around a month ago and I didn't overclock it because the performance was amazing already. Yeah no one mentioned that updates might break the overclock over time which is something essential for anyone who wants a stable experience all the time. Overall very satisfied with the card it's really a great deal 😊
@@MaxUmbra ABsolutely, it's a great card at a great price. And if you DO get lucky with one that overclocks well with the right memory chip then you really win. Even at stock tho it's a good deal. If you don't want to use ray tracing at all, essentially.
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk it can do ray tracing but only with FSR enabled and not in all the most demanding titles unless you reduce quality settings. I'll take the larg vram and the raw raster performance over ray tracing any day :)
Dude, you need flight simulator in your videos, trust me it's a nightmare for hardware and is the ultimate test to do. Fly low around Manhattan in New York and see for yourself. If you can make a video of only flight sim with 7800 XT, 7900 GRE, 4070, 4070S
i think i migth upgrade to a RX 7900 GRE. been using RX 6600. it can barely run black myth wukong in 2k. after playign games in 2k and 4k i can nopt downgrade to 1080p games looks blurry also it seems i can play wukong in 4k with this gpu even if its only 30fps+ better then 2fps. plus mods could make it run better
A few weeks ago I managed to buy the RX 7800 I write this in case you want to buy this graphic but you are not sure how it works with AI, 3D or some games for example, If you have any questions about this graph, I will gladly help you make a good decision based on your budget needs, greetings.
Wukong Benchmark is bugged AMD and DLSS set to 75% has DLSS auto go to its closest preset which is 66% and AMD stays at 75% so Nvidia will have a 9% advantage with 75%. Scaling over AMD. So his testing is really showing DLSS at 66% scaling and AMD at 75%.
Not aware of this bug. But what i do is reboot the game every time i change resolution and sliders. I noticed that the game will sometimes not apply your changed settings even if it is a minor change like the upscaling sliders.
I'm kinda happy with my GRE purchase, honestly the card is kinda strong and I feel like it's one of the most decently priced cards out there. AMD have some good midrange products, that's what I like about them. I really don't feel I can justify blowing upwards of 600+ on a GPU and under that, I prefer AMD (mind you, I absolutely don't care about RT in games, too much of a performance drop for too little of a change for me). I think if you want to play with RT on, you gotta spend a lot more on a GPU and go Nvidia.
Wukong all high settings 1080p were surprising I honestly thought the4070 super would average the most because it seams like the most powerful card, but I guess the ti version is better!
How are you keeping your 7900gre so cool? I just bought a powercolor red devil and in games it sits around 65-70c with it set to 2000 rpm as max fan speed which is 60% on this card
@@Qelyn what are your thoughts on the nitro plus, I know on the early us samples the hotspots temps were terrible but that’s been about a year now? Or should I just grab a hellhound and call it a day? Currently waiting for my refund from Amazon to go through before deciding hell I might even just grab a xfx merc310 7900xt
@@xPLastiK nitro+ is probably the best model you can get i have one myself and i have really low temps and not had any high hotspot temps and the cards are very well built and strong
@@Qelyn awesome that’s probably what I’ll pickup then tbh cause I really don’t need anything more powerful for 1440p then a gre was only looking at the 7900xt just for the beefy coolers keeping it cool
Got a 7700 XT Sapphire Nitro for £309 which is great as a 4060 is 264.99 and a 4060 TI is almost £400 and it beats both in raw raster by a mile and similar performance in RT but i wouldn’t use RT on any of those cards as its way to taxing
I noticed in these comments on benchmark videos how people always praise AMD gpus and do not like Nvidia at all. If I said the opposite, I would be called an Nvidia fanboy lol. Also Steam statistics show that you people in these comments do not actually own an good AMD gpu, because if you all did, the percentages would be really different.
The statistics are heavily swayed by asian internet cafes where everyone signs in to the same systems, which is why the top models are surprisingly old and on the cheaper end such as the 1650.
@Qelyn they buy what has worked for them for years and if they have been a regular then they will stay with the company or be introduced to nvidia if they are new to pc gaming.
I have a Ryzen 7800G processor and I don't know which GPU to buy, can you help me please? The reason I bought this GPU was because I didn't have money in the past and I wanted to play without having to buy a GPU, but now that I have money, can you recommend which one to buy?
How is on QHD Escape From Tarkov, AMD cards perform significantly worse when it should atleast be equal or better? I think there's something buggy with your testing
im guessing you dont play tarkov. tarkov hates amd gpus. they perform better on nvidia cards. and aside from that its a very unoptimized game specially on that map that was tested.
@@JegsTV I do play Tarkov, a lot actually. Didn't know it hated AMD GPUs since it doesn't say that anywhere online. I know streets is unoptimized but I assume this is offline which is GPU-bound.
@themarketgardener i have tested almost every modern nvidia and amd gpus and thats what i noticed on tarkov. Nvidia cards tend to perform better. Even in offline, streets is still CPU bound. The map is just too big that the CPU really does almost all the process in loading textures.
@@JegsTV Yes, I definitely removed that plastic hahaha I will check what the problem is, thanks for responding postscript: I love your videos, thanks to you, I decided to buy my rx 7800 xt a month ago
@@darkenbg8422 Usually it means that textures are worse (dynamically scaled down) when there is a big gap in VRAM usage. So yeah the card can be even faster due to less textures to process but the image is no contestet worse at the same time.
@@yosar6107 memory allocation is done in driver, both amd and nvidia are using different approches on how to alocate their cards, cant be even remotely compared...you can compare nvidia with nvidia and if you see vram gap, then either its scaled down textures difference, or just garbage collection didnt kicked in coz you have plenty of free vram...and btw nvidia does have vram compression
@@JegsTV 7800xt is my first option to go for but with my pc case fitting 325mm and the gpu being 320-321mm it might be tough to fit , might have to buy new case
@@JegsTV doh! I was thinking the AMD had 12GB but they were 16 and the Nvidias had 12/16 instead of 8 But they are still high usage compared to other games, that just surprised me!
Guys i need your help I want to upgrade my gpu My Pc Specs: CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x six core RAM: 16GB Corsair Dominator 3200mhz Motherboard: MSI A320M Pro-VD/S My current GPU is a GTX 1060 3GB.. Which one do you guys think fits the most? RX 7600, 7700 or 7800 XT I play mostly CoD and want to get like 180 FPS constant on Medium quality Settings
Whats your total budget in upgrading? im asking because you can go the upgrade path of selling your r5 2600x then get an r5 5600, get a cheap b450 motherboard, retain your ram, sell your 1060 and get an rx 7600. this will perform way better on cod.
I seriously have no idea how are getting 66 FPS in RDR2 in 4K on 7800 XT because I have the same card and with everything maxed out and Vulkan, I get 85 FPS avg in 4K. Are you limited by your cpu because I'm using 7600X?
My 5600 and rx 7800 xt 1080p FSR (80-89fps) 1440p FSR (78-86fps) with just FSR on you can play this game with 1% low about 60-64 fps. So yeah you can play BlackmythWukong with RX cards just turn off RT, you dont need it. 😂😂😂😂
@@kiminste Lmao no 😭 the only games that are well optimised for amd are warzone far cry and battlefield which the 7900 XTX can beat the 4090 at times on those games majority of games are optimised for Nvidia as much as they can due to nvidia holding 90% of the market share
I just benchmarked the game ... i respect the technology behind it ... but it does not look that impressive visually ofcourse some details are amazingbut the overall presentation isn't that great compared to other games. Speaking about Wukong here.
@@MrAnimescrazybut got better and more future like fsr is same as dlss but the quality is better on dlss but fg in fsr is 50% better and better quality and have afmf 2x performance + radion boost 2x performance when moving + hyperrx 2x performance anti leg + gives 4x better than reflex reflex gives 10% improvement also give less performance anti leg+ gives 40% also gift slightly better performance sam gives 20% better performance and Nvidia ane gives negative even if it gives any you can use it in amd and all GPU together with sam also AMD cards of generally 50% cheaper
Wait a minute... Sorry... But... @ Jegs TV... Am I missing something? How is this a fair Comparison?? You're rocking the DLSS Option with the Nvidia Cards but you're not using FSR with the AMD Cards when playing Black Myth Wukong? If that is actually the case you should be running the Nvidia Cards with DLSS off and be running with Native Resolution. I would want to see the FPS you get with both at Native Resolution OR use DLSS on the NVIDIA Cards and FSR with the AMD Cards to make it a fair fight when playing Black Myth Wukong... Cause its unfair to give the Nvidia Card the Upscaling Advantage to gain more FPS but not the AMD Cards... Correct me if I am wrong... Did you run FSR on the AMD Cards or was it off and you ran it at Native Resolution? I'm really tempted to know as I am actually considering purchasing a GPU Card in the near future...
th-cam.com/video/tA5HMV7DML0/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/I5ZlW69rAfw/w-d-xo.html both your tests . One time u have 140 FPS for the 4070 super and other test you have 189 FPS in WQHD by Diablo 4 . Thats Pretty weird ? Why the difference with the same setup ( Driver / Game update) ?
@@JegsTV che pessima risposta poi come ti permetti di offendere e darmi dell idiota io stavo solo commentando una cosa dovrebbero bannarti solo per il tuo modo di parlare
@@TheHunter0082 comment stupid things get stupid answers. imagine thinking enabling dlss on nvidia cards instead of FSR is unfair towards AMD cards cause they can only use FSR. Its not nvidia's fault radeon cards cant use their proprietary tech. thats how stupid your argument is.
tsk the power consumption is huge in 7800 XT and 7900 GRE.. but then the 4070s are too expensive... GPUs in our country are expensive, adding around 5000php or $100 mostly.. yes, all GPUs (might be due to import fee thingy)
I dont know maybe use your eyes and look for it? RTX 4070 | RTX 4070 Super | RTX 4070 Ti | RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ray Tracing Test th-cam.com/video/g4kSQln2ZOI/w-d-xo.html
RX 7800 XT and RX 7900 GRE were almost unplayable on wukong with RT enabled and no FG. better stick to nvidia cards if you really want to play with RT on wukong.
waiting for rtx 5090
on AMD cards you should never turn on RT.
@@ChrisL-d4c absolutely 1000% right. thats why I will still upgrade to a 7900 GRE vs a 4070Ti/Ti Super.
I enabled RT on my 7900XTX benchmark and while the settings showed it as enabled the Benchmark showed it as disabled and there was no change in fps. I didn't bother to reboot the client to see if that needed to be done to run it because I have no plans to play this either way and it does specify right in the setting it's nVidia RT settings. As others are pointing out, AMD card owners don't ficus on RT performance. It's not in the purchase expectations.
@@OcihEvE you need to reboot the game in order for the change of settings to take effect.
I am currently rocking a 6700 XT and I will still very happy to upgrade with 7900 GRE. The price difference with 4070, 4070Ti, and 4070Ti Super are almost half considering you're only gaining a few FPS.
What do you mean it's half? What you do get for that extra $50 on the 4070 Super is DLSS, which in this, especially, looks far superior in person. Both FSR, and TSR make the water look very weird, and artifacty.
I ve a 4070 Ti and at times I am super disappointed seeing cards like 7900 gre, 7800xt etc while I bought this gpu for 800 usd.
While at times it impresses me also.
Like wukong I was able to do 60 fps average at 1440p cinematic with RT high + FG On + DLSS 60%.
And at least in benchmark the 1% low was just 62 fps.
So I dunno what to say about 4070 Ti just like 3070,3070 Ti of Ampere gen was this is a mixed bag, like it draws less power but same fps as 7800/7900 majority of time with raster. But RT + DLSS + FG it beats the help out f AMD cards.
So should I love it or hate it.
I dunno.. I am totally confused why Nvidia did this 800 usd gpu witj just 12 gb back in 2023 January
@@1989rs500 10fps without frame gen, should never use fg for benchmarking
@@kush2023
Well U may say that but I ve played Alan Wake 2 and with FG + RT High+ DLSS Performence + High settings.
I was able to play that game at 75 fps average. I know the latency was high probably of 35 fps but it was not at all bad.
I really liked that experience and no blurry mess like with FSR.
I also found a sweet spot where I can cap at 60 fps and latency felt reduced.
Basically I played Alan wake 2 at highest possible graphics setting at 1440p.
Pretty sure that the visual experience I got was insane. True many may say RT ain't worth it but in a game like Alan wake 2 it was damn noticeable and I just spent time enjoying the art work.
So yes RT is amazing when its done properly but still I do agree 800 usd and 12 GB and just 5-10% better than 550 usd 7800xt is unacceptable
Thats why I say I dunno what 2 say about 4070 Ti.
@@1989rs500 yeah with framge gen bro, frame gen just ruins the accuracy of benchmarking
I took advantage of Prime Days and bought the rx 7800 xt for $100 cheaper than the GRE, while only being 10% "slower", that was a great deal on a "premium" model (Hellhound/Red Devil). If GRE is only $50 more, would be better.
You can undervolt/overclock the rx 7800xt and close that gap with the gre!
Seeing this I will stick with my 6700xt until the rx 8000 or rtx 5000. The performance difference is not worth the price.
7900GRE is largely the winner. Very high performance for the price!
50 bucks less than the 4070 super with no RT and a complete garbage upscaler? Are you that poor?
@@gameofgames1897 The 7900 GRE is very efficient and overclocks very easily. Also, I have no interest in RT. AMD's latest technologies are great and will only get better. FSR 3.1 is very good and I think FSR 4 will be better than DLSS. I am very confident about the new RX 8000 which will apparently be very aggressive in terms of quality/price ratio.
@@nolanroube1009 fsr4 is going to be like dlss is RIGHT now and it will be bound to 8000 series since you need NVIDIA tensor cores to be able to run IA upscaler. Costs will be up cause of it. On new NVIDIA app i have my 4070 super overclocked to 10% boosts too. My 4070 super is now 5% stronger than a 4070 ti. 7900 gre will not be able to use AI upscaler. The only reason to buy Amd is cause ITS cheaper. Thats all.
Ofc you dont care about RT cause YOU CANT USE RT. On nvidia is active by DEFAULT.
@@gameofgames1897 You’re getting mad at someone because they’re trying to spend less while getting more in pure raster performance. I’m not a red vs green guy but god damn you nvidia drones are insufferable sometimes.
Yea it was my bad, i forget sometimes that you are all underage kids. Sorry.
7900 GRE is the best for the price and performance
Oh is it with 20gb of vram and struggling to keep up with cards that have 12gb vram
@@bramdonstroth7865 do you even know what vram is for?
@@bramdonstroth7865 It has 16GB of vram not 20. The 7900xt has 20 and the 7900xtx has 24
@@bramdonstroth7865and what about the 4070 super that has 12gb of v ram and the 7900 gre is right on par with it
Bruh for this performance its gives the best value among nividia gpu,nividia fanboy 😂@@bramdonstroth7865
In wukong with GRE, I'm getting average of 80 frames on 1440p resolution with graphics set to Cinematic (max) and no ray tracing(will try tomorrow)
In some areas I'm eveen getting to 100 fps, and dips are like 70.
Now use AFMF2 to get 140-200 fps.
But You can still use FSR and Super Resolution for Even much better performance.
Thanks for this vid. This is actually my options. Here have my sub!
Wukong is lying to you about the "Super Resolution" scale. When you place the slider at 75% on Nvidia, it will actually round it down to 66.6%. The true DLSS "Quality" setting. giving them bonus FPS. In fact you can put it to 64% or 80%, and it'll still use 67%. They all preform identical. Same exact FPS. For AMD on the other hand, if you use FSR, it WILL accept the default 75% slider setting, making you think you're upscaling from the same internal res, but you're not.
Now DLSS does look better at only 67%, and at minimum on par with 75% FSR, but it still crappy that they did this in a way. It does look very biased towards Nvidia.
How do we know what you say is true or should we believe you on its own?
@@ThunderRapido try it on your own
@@spookyskellyskeleton609 try it on your own and tell us
@@ThunderRapido are you actually a tard ?? Did your mom forgot to bort?
I have the 7900gre and overclocked it card is excellent! Way better than my 3060ti prior
Solid sir!
thank you!!!
Finally found a channel to test the Monster Hunter World.
21:12 hard to believe but huge if true! 78xt beating Ti on cyberpunk without RT 😮 crazy!
According to other tests, Cyber is optimized for Dlss with 4070 cards.
Pretty good dude, so finally I decided to buy a RX 7900GRE by some of your videos, I tested a RTX 4070TI with UV/OC and I was getting quite more performance than GRE model, but power consumption is more like the same HAHA, so I don’t play RT games, just raster, and the the price diff is quite big here (around 320usd), kind difficult to buy TI or TIs models 😅
So, with good UV/OC on GRE u can have the natural performance of a TIs, easy to take one or other with that info.
Aside from performance, The 4070 Ti temps are great!
I gotta say at least in these Black Myth: Wukong comparisons, FSR looks noticeably worse than DLSS at all three resolutions. It's both more blurry and shimmery at the same time. I anticipated this would be so at 1080p, but was surprised to see such a difference even at 4K. This makes me think much harder about my next GPU, since I will be gaming at both 1440p and 4K (monitor and TV), and can't afford a native 4K card.
Someone in another comment said that in BM:W's settings if you set 75% resolution scale, with DLSS it's actually 67% and with FSR it is actually 75%. If that's true, then it's even more incredible that the DLSS image is noticeably better.
cant find the source of where he got his info from. so take it with a grain of salt.
@@JegsTV In either case, the DLSS image is clearly sharper and less shimmery to my eyes.
@@AleksiJoensuudlss is slightly better but if its 3.1 FSR and DLSS its very close and pretty much depends on the games optimisations
The good variant of 7800XT vs the bad variant of 7900GRE. Thats why the difference is so small. Try to use PC Hellhound in both cases, and u will see
Yeah the hellhound and nitro+ are the best overall compared to all the other Brands.
And if you play a bit with overclocking it you can get almost as 7900xt performance which is crazy good.
@@MaxUmbra NO you can't. The 7900 gre can OC to get close to the 7900xt in certain titles. But in actual demanding titles like Wukong that's
when the shader difference matters allot, that's when it'll still have 15-30 more fps.
Also AMD cars are very unstable OC'd. Tried a few myself. They can release a new update and suddenly driver OC is unstable .
Never buy a card because of a POTENTIAL overclock. Many depending on the Memory type they have can't go much above the stock memory speeds on the 7900 gre.
People just don't tell the whole story.
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk thanks for sharing.
Yeah i got the hellhound 7900 gre around a month ago and I didn't overclock it because the performance was amazing already.
Yeah no one mentioned that updates might break the overclock over time which is something essential for anyone who wants a stable experience all the time.
Overall very satisfied with the card it's really a great deal 😊
@@MaxUmbra ABsolutely, it's a great card at a great price. And if you DO get lucky with one that overclocks well with the right memory chip then you really win.
Even at stock tho it's a good deal. If you don't want to use ray tracing at all, essentially.
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk it can do ray tracing but only with FSR enabled and not in all the most demanding titles unless you reduce quality settings.
I'll take the larg vram and the raw raster performance over ray tracing any day :)
Dude, you need flight simulator in your videos, trust me it's a nightmare for hardware and is the ultimate test to do. Fly low around Manhattan in New York and see for yourself. If you can make a video of only flight sim with 7800 XT, 7900 GRE, 4070, 4070S
all of those cards can run it in QHD max every thing with atleast 60fps
@@kush2023 Then why did I get 50 and below? More like average 35-43. Specs are 7600, 7800 XT.
@@archvile1313 badly optimized pc, optimize your windows for gaming takes like 2 hours and you will get 60
I dont play that game sorry.
@@kush2023 Sorry but what do you mean optimize windows.
some games are just better with amd and others with nvidia
My fav game is Ghost of Tsushima so I'll go with amd
grabe ang bigat netong games para sa midrange rig
Welcome to UE5 era hahaha
is the rx 7900 gre optimized? i mean we all know that it is capped on stock so you can gain like 10% easy optimizing it. Good video dude!
All cards are stock in this video. However he did do videos with the gre overclocked before.
i think i migth upgrade to a RX 7900 GRE. been using RX 6600. it can barely run black myth wukong in 2k. after playign games in 2k and 4k i can nopt downgrade to 1080p games looks blurry also it seems i can play wukong in 4k with this gpu even if its only 30fps+ better then 2fps. plus mods could make it run better
A few weeks ago I managed to buy the RX 7800 I write this in case you want to buy this graphic but you are not sure how it works with AI, 3D or some games for example,
If you have any questions about this graph, I will gladly help you make a good decision based on your budget needs, greetings.
How do u keep the 7900GRE at 55°C while drawing 288W?
undervolting perhaps
@@awaiswasi354 its not undervolted, thats why draws 288W.
@@d4nith3mine pulls 325 watts/46c hotspot 68
The gigabtye one is pretty loud i have a nitro+ and its quiet
@@bronwenlanning2427 sapphire is the EVGA for AMD GPU's
7900 GRE You can expand the memory and I think the result will be better
yes you can. but this video is supposed to showcase stock performance of components.
Wukong Benchmark is bugged AMD and DLSS set to 75% has DLSS auto go to its closest preset which is 66% and AMD stays at 75% so Nvidia will have a 9% advantage with 75%. Scaling over AMD. So his testing is really showing DLSS at 66% scaling and AMD at 75%.
Not aware of this bug. But what i do is reboot the game every time i change resolution and sliders. I noticed that the game will sometimes not apply your changed settings even if it is a minor change like the upscaling sliders.
I'm kinda happy with my GRE purchase, honestly the card is kinda strong and I feel like it's one of the most decently priced cards out there. AMD have some good midrange products, that's what I like about them. I really don't feel I can justify blowing upwards of 600+ on a GPU and under that, I prefer AMD (mind you, I absolutely don't care about RT in games, too much of a performance drop for too little of a change for me). I think if you want to play with RT on, you gotta spend a lot more on a GPU and go Nvidia.
Wukong all high settings 1080p were surprising I honestly thought the4070 super would average the most because it seams like the most powerful card, but I guess the ti version is better!
4070ti is faster than the 4070s
How are you keeping your 7900gre so cool? I just bought a powercolor red devil and in games it sits around 65-70c with it set to 2000 rpm as max fan speed which is 60% on this card
Red Devils is low standard models, you should buy the Hellhound which is not expensive much but with better temperature.
Red devils has pretty poor cooling on the 7000 series and bad hotspots he might be using a open test bench too
@@Qelyn what are your thoughts on the nitro plus, I know on the early us samples the hotspots temps were terrible but that’s been about a year now? Or should I just grab a hellhound and call it a day? Currently waiting for my refund from Amazon to go through before deciding hell I might even just grab a xfx merc310 7900xt
@@xPLastiK nitro+ is probably the best model you can get i have one myself and i have really low temps and not had any high hotspot temps and the cards are very well built and strong
@@Qelyn awesome that’s probably what I’ll pickup then tbh cause I really don’t need anything more powerful for 1440p then a gre was only looking at the 7900xt just for the beefy coolers keeping it cool
Got a 7700 XT Sapphire Nitro for £309 which is great as a 4060 is 264.99 and a 4060 TI is almost £400 and it beats both in raw raster by a mile and similar performance in RT but i wouldn’t use RT on any of those cards as its way to taxing
Hi @JegsTV I realize that 4070s is always got higher temp in almost games than others, is that any issue with it’s brand or just fan issue?
is it only dlss for the first game ? no raster data ?
I noticed in these comments on benchmark videos how people always praise AMD gpus and do not like Nvidia at all. If I said the opposite, I would be called an Nvidia fanboy lol. Also Steam statistics show that you people in these comments do not actually own an good AMD gpu, because if you all did, the percentages would be really different.
Exactly most people buy nvidia. It is really that simple.
The statistics are heavily swayed by asian internet cafes where everyone signs in to the same systems, which is why the top models are surprisingly old and on the cheaper end such as the 1650.
@@MrAnimescrazymost clueless people buy nvidia who don’t look at benchmarks because its been such a big brand without competition for years
@Qelyn they buy what has worked for them for years and if they have been a regular then they will stay with the company or be introduced to nvidia if they are new to pc gaming.
this is one hard game to run at native without any FG/DLSS. I will wait for 7090 before buying this game
UE5 babyyyy
Even 4090 with dlaa can’t do native 4k with 60fps
@@Alltimefoxyou don’t need to worry about that the game developers will always try find way to make it playable with working on the game.
7800xt great value, but DLSS and DLAA make the Super worth over the GRE imo
I have a Ryzen 7800G processor and I don't know which GPU to buy, can you help me please? The reason I bought this GPU was because I didn't have money in the past and I wanted to play without having to buy a GPU, but now that I have money, can you recommend which one to buy?
For 1440p, 4070S
For 4K, 4080S
1080p 240fps 4070
4070 s? what about 4070 ti? i see the statstics and look great no?
@@PeterHeviaIf you want gaming go for Amd if you want Gaming and Productivity go for Nvdia simple
7800xt best bang for buck. Don't listen to Nvidia fangirls.
How is on QHD Escape From Tarkov, AMD cards perform significantly worse when it should atleast be equal or better?
I think there's something buggy with your testing
im guessing you dont play tarkov. tarkov hates amd gpus. they perform better on nvidia cards. and aside from that its a very unoptimized game specially on that map that was tested.
@@JegsTV I do play Tarkov, a lot actually. Didn't know it hated AMD GPUs since it doesn't say that anywhere online.
I know streets is unoptimized but I assume this is offline which is GPU-bound.
@themarketgardener i have tested almost every modern nvidia and amd gpus and thats what i noticed on tarkov. Nvidia cards tend to perform better.
Even in offline, streets is still CPU bound. The map is just too big that the CPU really does almost all the process in loading textures.
Hi, how you keep that temperature in the cpu? I have a similar set up but whit a RL thermalright frozen prism and my 7600 ups to 75-80°
240mm or 360mm? im using a 360mm rad aio on this setup
@@JegsTV thanks for the response, is a 360 mm, the pump has 3300 rpm and the fans 1850 rpm and have 7 fans on the chasis
Hmmm something is definitely not right with your temps. Maybe the block came with a plastic film and you forgot to peel it off before installation?
@@JegsTV Yes, I definitely removed that plastic hahaha I will check what the problem is, thanks for responding postscript: I love your videos, thanks to you, I decided to buy my rx 7800 xt a month ago
Why is different amount of VRAM used while processing the same video can anyone explain??
I have that same question too
@@darkenbg8422 Usually it means that textures are worse (dynamically scaled down) when there is a big gap in VRAM usage. So yeah the card can be even faster due to less textures to process but the image is no contestet worse at the same time.
@@yosar6107 memory allocation is done in driver, both amd and nvidia are using different approches on how to alocate their cards, cant be even remotely compared...you can compare nvidia with nvidia and if you see vram gap, then either its scaled down textures difference, or just garbage collection didnt kicked in coz you have plenty of free vram...and btw nvidia does have vram compression
It’s crazy how much more power the AMD cards use.
Ty dude
But, BM WUKONG still dont have game ready driver, i think IT will better work with new driver
i am noticing 4070 super fan speed being almost double than 7800xt and 4070ti , whats up with that ? is the card realy loud ?
No its not. The 7800xt hellhound is just really efficient at cooling.
It's a Gigabyte model, they're known for being louder (not the best materials - they used to be good back in 10/20 series, same for AMD).
@@JegsTV 7800xt is my first option to go for but with my pc case fitting 325mm and the gpu being 320-321mm it might be tough to fit , might have to buy new case
perfect choice of games for me
Why the hell it is costing me 150 dollars more in my country
Same
So is 7600xt a good choice or nah( I'm building the pc and im broke as well)
No Use 6700xt instead it is better
I don't know what is wrong with my game, I have 7900XTX and it barely cracks 60FPS without FG
Safe uninstall with DDU Mode and New driver install. When Not help, New Windows you should install.
CPU?
@@nodestra1234 7900x
Why are your Diablo 4 tests VRAM usage maxed out and over by at least a GB? Does that game eat that much?!
Over by at least a gb? Wdym? They are within vram range.
@@JegsTV doh! I was thinking the AMD had 12GB but they were 16 and the Nvidias had 12/16 instead of 8
But they are still high usage compared to other games, that just surprised me!
excellent video man
4070 super consume way less power than the gre, up to 30 -40% less, that is quite significant actually, and in my country they're priced the same
What happened to the call of duty benchmark? Why did you took it off?
the cod benchmark tool is currently busted i cant run tests using it. (dev error 5820)
Guys i need your help
I want to upgrade my gpu
My Pc Specs:
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x six core
RAM: 16GB Corsair Dominator 3200mhz
Motherboard: MSI A320M Pro-VD/S
My current GPU is a GTX 1060 3GB..
Which one do you guys think fits the most?
RX 7600, 7700 or 7800 XT
I play mostly CoD and want to get like 180 FPS constant on Medium quality Settings
Whats your total budget in upgrading? im asking because you can go the upgrade path of selling your r5 2600x then get an r5 5600, get a cheap b450 motherboard, retain your ram, sell your 1060 and get an rx 7600. this will perform way better on cod.
I seriously have no idea how are getting 66 FPS in RDR2 in 4K on 7800 XT because I have the same card and with everything maxed out and Vulkan, I get 85 FPS avg in 4K. Are you limited by your cpu because I'm using 7600X?
Check your game settings and make sure we’re using the same before comparing. And no the r5 7600 wont bottleneck even a 4090 on 4k
For Tarkov (or almost any other game) you should have put fmf2 xD
Imagine getting 60-200 more fps than Nvidia
Fake frames aren't real frames.
Is the 7600x your favourite processor ?
no. 7800x3d is.
@@JegsTV
I wish if I would of got that instead of the 13900k.
Need a 4070 Super XT
Nice vid! have r7 5800x3d (before price get up) wich one is better for my cpu? from 7800xt/4070s??
i have 5800x3d and 7800xt and I love the combo especially because I got my GPU for only 400 Euros
Cant force myself to give ngreedia any more money. Went with 7900gre. Watch out for those gddr6 4070
7800 xt is clearly winner here.
How quiet is the Gigabyte 4070 super?
Not that quiet i say :(
I dont really notice any noise tbh.
VERY quiet, but use Quiet bios on the card.
My 5600 and rx 7800 xt 1080p FSR (80-89fps) 1440p FSR (78-86fps) with just FSR on you can play this game with 1% low about 60-64 fps. So yeah you can play BlackmythWukong with RX cards just turn off RT, you dont need it. 😂😂😂😂
bro rainbow six siege is better on nvidia or amds cards?
amd
@@kiminste are u sure Bro!?
@@kiminste Lmao no 😭 the only games that are well optimised for amd are warzone far cry and battlefield which the 7900 XTX can beat the 4090 at times on those games majority of games are optimised for Nvidia as much as they can due to nvidia holding 90% of the market share
Is there an RT Black Desert Online? it's raining here, and after it puddles appear on the roads and what is displayed on them, is it RT?
Nope. Bdo doesnt support Ray tracing.
bdo is dx11 game, RT needs dx12 ultimate
Thanks
Если возможно добавьте ryzen 7600x + rx 7900 xt /rx 7900 xtx/rtx 4070 ti super/ 4080 for Warhammer 3 or Alan awake 2 in 2k, no fsr, no dlss.
I just benchmarked the game ... i respect the technology behind it ... but it does not look that impressive visually ofcourse some details are amazingbut the overall presentation isn't that great compared to other games. Speaking about Wukong here.
Bro, 7900 gre vs 7900 xt please, also with OC
No flight sim ? missing this one❤
Hello I just want to ask if 750watts gold is good for RX7800XT or. RX7900 GRE
My current setup is:
Ryzen 7 5700x
16gb ram
1Tb gen 3 ssd
Aio cooler
Anything 700 and above is good
Which will be the best futureproof card between 7900gre and 4070 super (not the ti) ?
4070 ti look more fresh no?
GRE is best gpu
not really considering power draw
Why is there 4 GB vram difference in escape game? Between amd and Nvidia graphics cards??
7800xt 7900 gre .. always for the buck 👌😅
Bought a used 4070Ti for 500$.
Yah I have 7800xt loved it
Could you test 7900 xt also please ?
7800 xt beats 7900 gre only 15 fps more wth
The GRE is so sexy holy shi 😭😭😭
Waiting for rx 6700 10gb😊
already made a video on that check the channel for it
2024: im playing 1440p with my 7800xt Nitro+ on a r5800x; my friend gave me his 4070 s gyga and the AMD card runs better, its way optmized (drivers)
How do you get the gps at such low temps! Pls help
The rx 7900gre 550$ beat the rtx 4070ti 800$ but still people will buy Nvidia
Yes because of the other features and more people buy nvidia then amd gpu's.
@@MrAnimescrazybut got better and more future like fsr is same as dlss but the quality is better on dlss but fg in fsr is 50% better and better quality and have afmf 2x performance + radion boost 2x performance when moving + hyperrx 2x performance anti leg + gives 4x better than reflex reflex gives 10% improvement also give less performance anti leg+ gives 40% also gift slightly better performance sam gives 20% better performance and Nvidia ane gives negative even if it gives any you can use it in amd and all GPU together with sam also AMD cards of generally 50% cheaper
@ABisal-r8v yes but no one cares about amd gpu's because if they did they would be selling better but they are not.
could u show some modern warfare and warzone too i would appreciate it
Wait a minute... Sorry... But... @ Jegs TV... Am I missing something? How is this a fair Comparison?? You're rocking the DLSS Option with the Nvidia Cards but you're not using FSR with the AMD Cards when playing Black Myth Wukong? If that is actually the case you should be running the Nvidia Cards with DLSS off and be running with Native Resolution.
I would want to see the FPS you get with both at Native Resolution OR use DLSS on the NVIDIA Cards and FSR with the AMD Cards to make it a fair fight when playing Black Myth Wukong... Cause its unfair to give the Nvidia Card the Upscaling Advantage to gain more FPS but not the AMD Cards... Correct me if I am wrong... Did you run FSR on the AMD Cards or was it off and you ran it at Native Resolution? I'm really tempted to know as I am actually considering purchasing a GPU Card in the near future...
Fsr was used on amd tho. Why are you assuming it wasnt?
De donde sacas estos precios? Jaja
amazon
温度好低，为什么我的7800xt gpu温度65度，核心逼近90度？
Rx 7800xt better than 4070ti in some games...
1 of 10 yes, and only with rasterizing, no Ray traycing or path traycing.
The 7900 GRE is just a nice card. Offers everything a modern gamer needs.
Streaming on obs?
4070TI W
th-cam.com/video/tA5HMV7DML0/w-d-xo.html vs th-cam.com/video/I5ZlW69rAfw/w-d-xo.html both your tests . One time u have 140 FPS for the 4070 super and other test you have 189 FPS in WQHD by Diablo 4 . Thats Pretty weird ? Why the difference with the same setup ( Driver / Game update) ?
Both. Diablo always gets a performance decrease whenever a new season comes.
ma che test è scusa wukong con dlss e normale che nvidia vada meglio magari farlo con fsr che e5compatibile con tutte le schede test ridicolo
Dlss enabled on nvidia cards, fsr enabled on radeon cards.
e dovevi farlo solo dlss o solo fsr allora si così hai dato vantaggio a nvidia
Complaining why amd cant use dlss is such a stupid argument. Ask nvidia to make dlss open source then. Then complain. Idiota.
@@JegsTV che pessima risposta poi come ti permetti di offendere e darmi dell idiota io stavo solo commentando una cosa dovrebbero bannarti solo per il tuo modo di parlare
@@TheHunter0082 comment stupid things get stupid answers.
imagine thinking enabling dlss on nvidia cards instead of FSR is unfair towards AMD cards cause they can only use FSR. Its not nvidia's fault radeon cards cant use their proprietary tech. thats how stupid your argument is.
ты че не показываешь конечный результат в киберпанке в бенчмарке?
tsk the power consumption is huge in 7800 XT and 7900 GRE.. but then the 4070s are too expensive...
GPUs in our country are expensive, adding around 5000php or $100 mostly.. yes, all GPUs (might be due to import fee thingy)
Shouldve turned frame gen on
Bro rx 6700 10 GB please
No 7900xt?
Xt already different class , u need to compare xt and 4070 ti super
@@Anjay3501the XT is cheaper than the normal TI its £629 while the 4070 super is £549 😭 the 7900 xtx is the same price as the 4070 Ti super
@@Qelyn in my country xt is same price with ti super and xtx same price with 4080 super
Call of Duty?
Nvidia fan 😂, that 4070 super doesnt cost $579 usd, it cost at least $700 usd
amazon would like a word with you.
amzn.to/3Xevjeh
We Don't need comparison videos.. we need single videos one by one
I dont know why allways your comparative are without ray tracing and frame generation.. is not just... Your comparative is wrong
I dont know maybe use your eyes and look for it? RTX 4070 | RTX 4070 Super | RTX 4070 Ti | RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ray Tracing Test
th-cam.com/video/g4kSQln2ZOI/w-d-xo.html
this bench is wrong... bad data made with a poor cpu....
Assetto Corsa???