I enjoyed this laptop. I did have similar issues with the drivers as well. On Windows 7 and 10. I encountered booting issues during that free upgrade to Windows 10. It sucks that you're stuck with the Intel GPU tho.
Roughly 8 months ago I noticed my old (dual core Intel circa 2010) Dell laptops with discrete Nvidia video stopped working well with windows 11. I had to put them back on Windows 10 and use the Windows 7 Nvidia drivers. Your video confirms that is still an issue. Thank you.
Because this is the same place that was photographed recently, there are wine grapes there now. It's Bliss Hill from the Windows XP wallpaper, located in Sonoma, California. Michael has a video about it called 'Bliss - The Story of Windows XP's Famous Default Wallpaper
I had an M18 from 09 that I put 11 on before the cpu finally failed. It had dual graphics, 3.2 quad core, and 16 gigs of ram. Had to do the same as your video to get 11. It ran smoothly and had it hooked up for an hpc in my living room for streaming. Beefy enough for that. Loved the video!! Im all about keeping my stuff going as long as I can.
@shirleydotxml Going on for quite some time now. Don't know how it is on PC, but it only takes 2 seconds with the smartphone to figure out if someone is a bot or not.
You know it’s a good day when this man uploads. Also, isn’t this like when you installed a beta build of Windows 11? I am getting fond memories of that video.
well, i higher recommend to you install the modified intel gma 4500 m / mhd extreme plus 2 drivers made by nightmayor, even supports windows 11 as well, i'm being using on windows 10 but i have seen people installing it and working, and it's a really nice alternative than nvidia's unsupported geforce drivers on this one but anyway, just stick to windows 7 if you really want drivers working, but that was a nice experiment
In my experience I have managed to do an upgrade from Windows 7 to 11 within the OS. I had to do a command where it loaded an alternative Windows Setup installer thinking it was Windows Server and chose the upgrade and keep all my files and apps option, everything went smoothly. You can find the command from the videos on TH-cam showing you how to upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 23H2 on unsupported hardware, if you’re interested.
With the bypass microsoft account option in Rufus, if you have the system connected to the internet during installation, the bypass doesn’t actually work (but if you select the option to create a local account, then it won’t give you the prompt for the Microsoft account regardless) There is a way to add a bypass that works regardless of if there is an internet connection (where it will prompt you to create a local account), but rufus doesn’t use that
Switchable graphics from the early 2010s is absolute hell. So many vendor specific HWID's that didn't exist in normal Nvidia drivers. You could try manually installing the newest ones specifically from DELL/Alienware, even though they're probably Windows 7 drivers, sometimes it just works.
Unpopular opinion: it was actually a smart move on Microsoft's side to artificially limit Windows 11's hardware requirements. Windows 10 supported essentially 20 years worth of hardware. That's a nightmare to maintain for developers. Through all that TPM and CPU check BS they limited the surface area for support and that might actually be beneficial for the quality of experience on supported hardware.
@@AndrewMackoul Those are from 2008, we're still talking about 16 years old CPUs. Still very old compared to the official hardware requirements which call for a processor no older than 2017 (8th gen Core i, or AMD Zen+).
I totally agree. I do also think they made it harder to bypass to really just solidify the fact that they're not supporting it, but not making it impossible
It is the compromise to solidify the computer security. Maybe we won't have this problem, but there are many companies and structures in the world that use outdated machines, with outdated CPUs and outdated OS’s, putting both their security and the users who rely on their services at risk.
Hello MJD! I'm currently halfway the video and I think you should try tinkering with Backwards compatibility feature for the setup.exe on the GPU drivers I did that on a really old notebook laptop (it shipped with XP and I tried to update it to Windows 10 just for funsies) It managed to install the GPU driver with it set to Windows 7 compatibility (that one setting on properties)
I encountered the same boot loop issue when installing Windows 11 on a 2010 MacBook Pro with a Core 2 Duo and NVIDIA graphics. To resolve it, I downloaded the graphics driver directly from NVIDIA before allowing Windows to install its driver via update. This approach worked well with the NVIDIA graphics. Note that this laptop didn't have graphics switching. On my iMac running Windows 11, I had to disable one of the graphics adapters to boot into something other than Safe Mode. I opted to disable the integrated graphics and use the discrete card, which has been working great. Again, I used the NVIDIA driver instead of the Microsoft-provided one.
For the Nvidia driver, try going to the Microsoft update download center and grab the Windows 10 version of the driver, it should work. Or try installing driver booster, it should also do the trick.
With these old laptops with switchable graphics, you may wanna stick with the driver from the laptop's manufacturer. They don't work like today's switchable graphics. The Windows 7 driver might still work. Like this Alienware, my IdeaPad Y460 had a literal manual switch for the GPUs, which only worked with Lenovo's driver. Installing Windows 10 on it was a pain; you could not disable driver updates at the time, so Win 10 would always install an incompatible Intel driver that crashes the OS at login. Lenovo's old Windows 7 driver actually worked on Win 10, and I was able to use Win 10 offline w/o any hitches, so the auto update BS was the only hurdle.
@@KyanoAng3l0_Mtvtksnever use driver optimiser pro at any cost. That piece of shit ruined my nvme Intel controller and fucked my windows installation. Thank God I did a restore point at every time I download a driver. Also for some unknown reason, I couldn't access winre as it would stuck in a bootloop if I tried to access winre. I would have lost all my data if I didn't use system restore before updating my driver
Forget the Microsoft update center all together... Something weird was going on for him. Not sure if it was even the graphics driver causing the boot loop, but he should be using the drivers/software straight from Nvidia, especially for the multi-gpu thing which requires software from Nvidia to handle it. Some drivers Microsoft chooses don't always work properly at first and I still don't understand why. I know he's using 11, but what happened to me was, I had issues with my 2020 HP Envy downgrading back to Win10, the drivers the Win10 update was choosing were broken for some reason, the sound driver and track pad were acting weird (all supposedly factory drivers, no generics), and the one it chose for the gpu, they kinda worked but drawing was slower than it should be and I was having weird issues decoding video and stuff... and it wasn't using a generic driver, it was Microsofts 'latest' intel driver for my gpu, it just didn't work properly... Suddenly that was all fixed when I actually downloaded the proper the drivers/software manually from the manufacturer sites, and using intel's driver tool for the Intel stuff. Microsoft was definitely not choosing the latest/proper drivers for things, it lies lol. Don't know where the hell it got those drivers from... Once that was all fixed and had the working drivers, any future windows updates, also any new updated drivers it provided, and factory resets all worked perfectly normal... Never had to do it again. When you do a fresh/re-formatted install, Windows get's amnesia and doesn't know what to do with itself... It's bizarre. Windows needs the working drivers as a reference to get updates, if it takes a guess it doesn't always work properly even if it installs and they seem like the correct drivers.
@@exohio As I pointed out in my prev. comment, switchable graphics back in the early 2010s work differently, like that of my Lenovo IdeaPad Y460 and the Alienware M11x featured in this vid. They have a physical manual switch that lets you switch GPUs on the fly, which would require a driver from the laptop's own manufacturer, rather than doing it all on software and being able to use both GPUs simultaneously for different programs like my 2018 ROG laptop. Intel and Nvidia's own drivers never worked on those older laptops I handled. Installing them would cause a similar problem - the PC crashing immediately after boot or at login, which renders the laptop unusable.
12:40 You could try enabling both "Show accent color on Start and Taskbar" and "Show accent color on title bars and windows borders" and see if it applied custom accent color. I tried it when I was testing Madobe Nanami theme on Windows 11 a while ago and it did apply custom accent color.
Ran into this recently too. Had a old laptop similar age, ended up disconnecting from the internet and downloading the latest driver for the GPU that I could. Installing it first, then rebooting to see if windows could still boot. That seemed to solve my bootloop problem.
You should've uninstalled the bloatware, no surprise it runs at that much RAM & CPU %. Instead you decided to install some more bloat (Alienware "Theme") & you had 165 system processes at 22:42 - Not to mention, that you've ran Windows and all those games on the integrated (CPU) graphics card instead of the dedicated (GPU) ones & you're wondering why the games can't run well :D. (Because of incompatibility of course, but there's a way to install them) Had a great time watching, don't take these as "hate" but just an opinion on what can be improved to actually run these games. There's room for improvement, would love to see a follow-up if you decide to do some Windows Tweaking.
I love how when you relaunch rocket league at 21:58 , even the game window says it's "cooked" 😂 and then in brackets it explains that the slang "cooked" means not responding
The fact that w11 could run those old apps (and they work as designed) is just awesome thing. If you compare it to mac that usually has zero backwards compatibility this is twice the awesome.
Now before i even start watching. I own this laptop (I have a AW collection from 2010 - 2021) and it works almost perfect under windows 11. If you have any issues, its your specific machine. This series of AW laptops from the 11 - the 18 were very well built machines and used extremely reliable hardware. HEnce why there are so many still around. Most other laptops from this era barely made it 5 years. I have the M17r4 on the desk next to me now just for youtube while im gaming on my deasktop. Love this series of machine.
I used my 2009 dell xps i7 desktop with an updated 4 gig 980 and it played pretty much every modern game I threw at it extremely well. That was back in like 2017 but still lol.
I have a Dell laptop from 2014 with an i5 and 16 Gb of RAM which is perfectly usable with Windows 10 nowadays but it's out of the compatibility list. Knowing that 10 will be unsupported the next year I found this video useful when it's time to make the upgrade to 11.
I would not be surprised at all if there are user-created drivers for the that Nvidia mGPU. At minimum, I would probably try finding the latest drivers that do support it on an older OS version, and try to install that. If I get an error saying it's not allowed, I'd even tweak the inf file and try disabling driver signing temporarily to see if it will install. I have had success with this in running Windows 7 drivers on Windows 10. So, even if it doesn't work on Windows 11, it might be worth trying Windows 10, since that is at least a current OS.
"Would you like to pin Microsoft Edge to your taskbar?" "No, we don't want to pin Microsoft Edge to the taskbar." Uhhh... I'm not _that_ blind yet, but wasn't it already on the taskbar?
Did you try the Windows 7 Dell Driver for Nvidia? Sometimes OEMs do strange things to their cards that can cause OEM drivers to go crazy - especially when the part isn't fully supported anymore.
I did have similar issues with the GPU off my old Dell laptop as Well. After installation of W10 it would always work a few minutes untill Windows automaticly updated the Graphics Driver. After wihich it would freeze and Shutdown. The only way to fix it was just to disable the GPU in the device manager. It even froze after i manually installed the correct Driver. Asides from that the performance in W10 is still really good, the only thing it struggels with is TH-cam Videos over 1080p and battery life even with a new Battery. Still using it to this Day.
same thing here with my latitude 7490 with UHD 620, the difference is when i use linux, i need to add extra kernel boot parameter "i915_enable.dc=0" to fix it edit: it's either that or i915.enable_dc=0
hello Michael! i am a new subscriber and i noticed te experiments you do on these machines its quite awsome to see how this experiment turned out it is a shame that you were not able to use its org gpu and integrated graphics is what you are stuck with but you mentioned that the gpu driver is not compatible with win 11 how about win 10?
I have one of these. Damn reliable laptop. Doesn’t really work too well anymore but I ran with it windows 7 later to windows 10 all the way until 2020.
I have a sony vaio vpccw16fa (core 2 duo p8700 and a nvidia geforce GT230M) I managed to upgrade to windows 11 when it was released. The support ended for 200 series at around 2016 windows 10 versions were there at that time so it can work for windows 11 which is basically a modified version of windows 10
Try swapping out normal windows 11 for Tiny 11 and disable all telemetry in T11 along with all mods you can think of may find some improvement. Just a thought.
.... Our whole universe was in a hot dense state Then nearly 14 billion years ago, expansion started (wait) The Earth began to cool The autotrophs began to drool Neanderthals developed tools We built a wall (we built the pyramids) Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery That all started with the big bang (Bang!) Since the dawn of man is really not that long As every galaxy was formed in less time than it takes to sing this song A fraction of a second and the elements were made The bipeds stood up straight The dinosaurs all met their fate They tried to leap, but they were late And they all died (they froze their asses off) The oceans and Pangaea See ya, wouldn't wanna be set in motion by the same big bang It all started with the big bang It's expanding ever outward but one day It will pause and start to go the other way Collapsing ever inward, we won't be here, it won't be heard Our best and brightest figure that it'll make an even bigger bang Australopithecus would really have been sick of us Debating how we're here, they're catching deer (we're catching viruses) Religion or astronomy, Encarta, Deuteronomy It all started with the big bang Music and mythology, Einstein and astrology It all started with the big bang It all started with the big bang!!
How funny and coincidental it is that a few days ago I just did the same thing you did in this video for my old hp elitebook 850 g2 laptop I got from my dad a while back that I now use on the go. 😂 Love your vids tho. Can't wait for another one. 😉👍❤️
You should see how the OG Windows 7 install works in comparison and also throw AntiX Linux on it too afterwards. AntiX runs so absurdly light while being very usable and accessible as well.
Great video. Does that laptop only go up to 4gb of ram? That seems a bit low, even for 2010, specially on a gaming laptop (MacBook Pros of the time got to 8 -16Gb back then, I believe) Despite it being mostly not recommended, I suggest you run a third party driver updater; I personally use Driver Booster and it has solved issues for me more often than not (uninstall after updating, though)
So weird thing is I have this exact laptop. I think windows 11 is the main issue here. I run mine with Windows 10 Atlas OS. And I play even some modern games at respectable frame rates at native resolution. Only difference is mine has 8GB ram. I actually got mine out to make sure I wasn’t crazy and it runs portal 2 at native resolution on medium settings getting anywhere from 40-55fps. I’d drop it down to either windows 10 or windows 10 atlas os. You’ll be surprised how much windows 11 ruins this machine.
If I remember correctly, you needed alienware OSD so you could switch between intergrated with discrete or discrete only GPU. There was a key combo to switch
Funny enough, The Dell G15 that I mainly use actually has an Alienware Control Center for some reason. It IS a gaming laptop so I can see it, and It runs Windows 11 fine (which it CAME PRE-INSTALLED when I bought it new) but eventually, I need to install a second SSD. Also if you know where to look, you can TECHNICALLY apply Windows 7 themes to Windows 11. Theme sounds like Garden, Beaches, and even custom sound can STILL be added (barring startup and shutdown).
My acer Aspire V5 that runs an i3 and upgraded the ram from 4gb to 16gb and a 1TB SSD running windows 10. It runs like a champ for a computer from early 2012. I love that thing it handles short Photoshop and Illustrator Mock ups no problem.
I installed Windows 11 on my Acer Aspire Z5771 with an i5-2400S, 6GB RAM and integrated graphics and it runs quite well. I think the minimum to have a good experience is at least a 1st gen Core i CPU and 6GB RAM because of W11 being more resource hungry.
I have a Macbook Air 3, 2 and the Geforce 320M that's in it has not caused me any problems in windows 11 (i'm not using bootcamp, i directly installed windows). I can even run game ready drivers without any issues.
Finally!! An original MJD Video 🥲🥲🥲 Doing Things You Sohuldnt do but we do because we can!! Finally not a gaming console or a gaming console bootleg And an flashback to the time travel series Thanks Case!!!!
I still use one of these machines as my diagnostics PC when I'm tinkering with retro laptops! It works great with Tiny10, but it was downright horrible with Windows 11, and mine has 8 GB of RAM.
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I enjoyed this laptop. I did have similar issues with the drivers as well. On Windows 7 and 10. I encountered booting issues during that free upgrade to Windows 10. It sucks that you're stuck with the Intel GPU tho.
Amazing!
I really need TH-cam to remove pinned comment feature like they did with the dislikes
bro is from the past
@@mctogo001 what are you talking about lol
@muuktoi simple answer: hate of 📌
you know i'm starting to think you are michaelsoft binbows
I had a dream once that Michael put out an April Fools video where he revealed that to be his legal name
😂@@nkmade
I honestly am convinced he's Druaga1.
Or Falcon from Gameranx. I mean... just LISTEN to the voice!
@@nkmade Oh my god that's the best dream ever. 😂
4:40 I like how it asks you if you'd like to pin edge to the taskbar AFTER it pins edge to the taskbar, and pressing no thanks changes nothing
I love how it asks you if you want to pin Microsoft edge to the task bar but even if you decline it does it anyway
Do you want to pin Microsoft Edge to the Taskbar?
[Yes] [Yes, but labeled as no]
@@ciach0_ pretty much 👀
Pin Edge?
[Yes] [No]
Let's pin Edge.
[Yes] [Yes]
If they were honest: "you are not in control here, and we're done pretending you ever were"
[Yes][No and we'd stop pretending we care]
4:44 it’s already pinned to the taskbar
true
Makes it even more hilarious that it's asking... lol
this is hilarious and deep
Do you want to pin Microsoft Edge to the Taskbar?
[Yes] [Yes, but labeled as no]
@@ciach0_ nes
Roughly 8 months ago I noticed my old (dual core Intel circa 2010) Dell laptops with discrete Nvidia video stopped working well with windows 11. I had to put them back on Windows 10 and use the Windows 7 Nvidia drivers. Your video confirms that is still an issue. Thank you.
System 10 or 7 is much better for her
The green field wallpaper reminds me of an iconic operating system 👀
Because this is the same place that was photographed recently, there are wine grapes there now. It's Bliss Hill from the Windows XP wallpaper, located in Sonoma, California. Michael has a video about it called 'Bliss - The Story of Windows XP's Famous Default Wallpaper
@@calligraphysthetic r/woosh
@@calligraphysthetic i know i even saw the video where mjd visited the place and took pictures
@@Lynixityr/ihavereddit
@@Simurated r/thankyou@Simurated
I had an M18 from 09 that I put 11 on before the cpu finally failed. It had dual graphics, 3.2 quad core, and 16 gigs of ram. Had to do the same as your video to get 11. It ran smoothly and had it hooked up for an hpc in my living room for streaming. Beefy enough for that. Loved the video!! Im all about keeping my stuff going as long as I can.
3:45 "...restore this Mac to its factory settings" proofs you're just human, too! Love your videos, keep up the great work!
Babe wake up, Michael MJD just uploaded
Lmao
Babe wake up, everything went wrong is going to be in the title
_Squints against the sun._ You know I told you to only wake me up if he tries to game on a Core 2 Du-... oh my god.
Babe wake up, people still use this overused joke.
Thanks for telling me Babe!
I love your experiment & stress test in all OS without bias different from other channels.
Your videos are just good! Love them!
Love the game choices on the desktop mjd!
Thank you, MJD, for this video. You made my day better. Keep going.
2:53 that OEM is crazy
For some reason, these Alienware devices look so amazing to me
I like these older ones ,I was gonna get a used one before I considered getting something else cause my old laptop was a piece of crap
@shirleydotxml Why the fuck are your parents allowing you on the internet unsupervised?
@shirleydotxmlIt's a bot
@shirleydotxml Going on for quite some time now.
Don't know how it is on PC, but it only takes 2 seconds with the smartphone to figure out if someone is a bot or not.
You don't look like a member to me@Y-PermCubing
You know it’s a good day when this man uploads. Also, isn’t this like when you installed a beta build of Windows 11? I am getting fond memories of that video.
well, i higher recommend to you install the modified intel gma 4500 m / mhd extreme plus 2 drivers made by nightmayor, even supports windows 11 as well, i'm being using on windows 10 but i have seen people installing it and working, and it's a really nice alternative than nvidia's unsupported geforce drivers on this one
but anyway, just stick to windows 7 if you really want drivers working, but that was a nice experiment
In my experience I have managed to do an upgrade from Windows 7 to 11 within the OS. I had to do a command where it loaded an alternative Windows Setup installer thinking it was Windows Server and chose the upgrade and keep all my files and apps option, everything went smoothly.
You can find the command from the videos on TH-cam showing you how to upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 23H2 on unsupported hardware, if you’re interested.
10 is enough, but 11 will be terribly slow.
I love to watch your videos when i'm bored. Thanks for your amazing content
Michael please give us the content we’ve been waiting for. We need ice tray reviews
Bro.
With the bypass microsoft account option in Rufus, if you have the system connected to the internet during installation, the bypass doesn’t actually work (but if you select the option to create a local account, then it won’t give you the prompt for the Microsoft account regardless)
There is a way to add a bypass that works regardless of if there is an internet connection (where it will prompt you to create a local account), but rufus doesn’t use that
Hey man love the videos I always see your OS/2 poster which I find funny bcs I recently found out my grandpa helped develop it lmao
Hey, MichaelMJD! Love your videos!
damn this as an early release, 30 mins ago, usually it’s when i’m asleep
Switchable graphics from the early 2010s is absolute hell.
So many vendor specific HWID's that didn't exist in normal Nvidia drivers.
You could try manually installing the newest ones specifically from DELL/Alienware, even though they're probably Windows 7 drivers, sometimes it just works.
i had a sony vaio with an nvidia 330m and it was so shit having to get tye drivers from them
it may sounds wierd but, i love your voice , and your video ofc (:
"Definitely not the most playable that I've ever seen Portal."
Gotta love that Michael MJD understatement.
3:14 "think i missed it..." felt that
MJD makes my day better.
yay!!! new video, love your videos bro!!
Wow i had this exact boot loop problem with the nvidia drivers. Never thought id find someone else in the same boat. Such a pain in the ass!
new mjd video.... day instantly better
literally
Ah, an MJD video with Action Retro-esque shenanigans!
Yes, please! :)
Can you try Vegas pro or whatever editing software you use.. that would be intresting! love your videos - keep it up!
Unpopular opinion: it was actually a smart move on Microsoft's side to artificially limit Windows 11's hardware requirements. Windows 10 supported essentially 20 years worth of hardware. That's a nightmare to maintain for developers. Through all that TPM and CPU check BS they limited the surface area for support and that might actually be beneficial for the quality of experience on supported hardware.
Windows 11 24H2, I believe, will require the POPCNT instruction on CPUs, which eliminates all Intel CPUs older than the first gen i series processors.
@@AndrewMackoul Those are from 2008, we're still talking about 16 years old CPUs. Still very old compared to the official hardware requirements which call for a processor no older than 2017 (8th gen Core i, or AMD Zen+).
I totally agree. I do also think they made it harder to bypass to really just solidify the fact that they're not supporting it, but not making it impossible
It is the compromise to solidify the computer security. Maybe we won't have this problem, but there are many companies and structures in the world that use outdated machines, with outdated CPUs and outdated OS’s, putting both their security and the users who rely on their services at risk.
Michael really needs the best award for being the best tech youtuber
Hello MJD! I'm currently halfway the video and I think you should try tinkering with Backwards compatibility feature for the setup.exe on the GPU drivers
I did that on a really old notebook laptop (it shipped with XP and I tried to update it to Windows 10 just for funsies)
It managed to install the GPU driver with it set to Windows 7 compatibility (that one setting on properties)
Devices with XP are the best thing after the original 7 system, the latest is excessively heavy
i feel so at home watching your videos
Wow, I did not know that existed in rufus, going to keep that in mind!
I encountered the same boot loop issue when installing Windows 11 on a 2010 MacBook Pro with a Core 2 Duo and NVIDIA graphics. To resolve it, I downloaded the graphics driver directly from NVIDIA before allowing Windows to install its driver via update. This approach worked well with the NVIDIA graphics. Note that this laptop didn't have graphics switching.
On my iMac running Windows 11, I had to disable one of the graphics adapters to boot into something other than Safe Mode. I opted to disable the integrated graphics and use the discrete card, which has been working great. Again, I used the NVIDIA driver instead of the Microsoft-provided one.
I love to watch your videos on the weekend
yeah
@@kivancatlipr yep
I would love to see a direct comparison to Linux (Probably Mint) to see how the two compare directly on the same hardware!
"Edge is still running for some reason" Extremely relatable 😂
It’s crazy to think that brand new laptops not even a decade later had specs STARTING at that!
For the Nvidia driver, try going to the Microsoft update download center and grab the Windows 10 version of the driver, it should work. Or try installing driver booster, it should also do the trick.
With these old laptops with switchable graphics, you may wanna stick with the driver from the laptop's manufacturer. They don't work like today's switchable graphics. The Windows 7 driver might still work.
Like this Alienware, my IdeaPad Y460 had a literal manual switch for the GPUs, which only worked with Lenovo's driver. Installing Windows 10 on it was a pain; you could not disable driver updates at the time, so Win 10 would always install an incompatible Intel driver that crashes the OS at login. Lenovo's old Windows 7 driver actually worked on Win 10, and I was able to use Win 10 offline w/o any hitches, so the auto update BS was the only hurdle.
@@KyanoAng3l0_Mtvtksnever use driver optimiser pro at any cost.
That piece of shit ruined my nvme Intel controller and fucked my windows installation. Thank God I did a restore point at every time I download a driver. Also for some unknown reason, I couldn't access winre as it would stuck in a bootloop if I tried to access winre. I would have lost all my data if I didn't use system restore before updating my driver
@@Unknown-64209 Ig it's a good thing I never used it or the like.
Forget the Microsoft update center all together... Something weird was going on for him. Not sure if it was even the graphics driver causing the boot loop, but he should be using the drivers/software straight from Nvidia, especially for the multi-gpu thing which requires software from Nvidia to handle it. Some drivers Microsoft chooses don't always work properly at first and I still don't understand why.
I know he's using 11, but what happened to me was, I had issues with my 2020 HP Envy downgrading back to Win10, the drivers the Win10 update was choosing were broken for some reason, the sound driver and track pad were acting weird (all supposedly factory drivers, no generics), and the one it chose for the gpu, they kinda worked but drawing was slower than it should be and I was having weird issues decoding video and stuff... and it wasn't using a generic driver, it was Microsofts 'latest' intel driver for my gpu, it just didn't work properly...
Suddenly that was all fixed when I actually downloaded the proper the drivers/software manually from the manufacturer sites, and using intel's driver tool for the Intel stuff. Microsoft was definitely not choosing the latest/proper drivers for things, it lies lol. Don't know where the hell it got those drivers from... Once that was all fixed and had the working drivers, any future windows updates, also any new updated drivers it provided, and factory resets all worked perfectly normal... Never had to do it again. When you do a fresh/re-formatted install, Windows get's amnesia and doesn't know what to do with itself... It's bizarre. Windows needs the working drivers as a reference to get updates, if it takes a guess it doesn't always work properly even if it installs and they seem like the correct drivers.
@@exohio As I pointed out in my prev. comment, switchable graphics back in the early 2010s work differently, like that of my Lenovo IdeaPad Y460 and the Alienware M11x featured in this vid. They have a physical manual switch that lets you switch GPUs on the fly, which would require a driver from the laptop's own manufacturer, rather than doing it all on software and being able to use both GPUs simultaneously for different programs like my 2018 ROG laptop. Intel and Nvidia's own drivers never worked on those older laptops I handled. Installing them would cause a similar problem - the PC crashing immediately after boot or at login, which renders the laptop unusable.
You have such lovely hands 🙌
12:40 You could try enabling both "Show accent color on Start and Taskbar" and "Show accent color on title bars and windows borders" and see if it applied custom accent color. I tried it when I was testing Madobe Nanami theme on Windows 11 a while ago and it did apply custom accent color.
Amazing tip from rufus bro THX
I know this sounds really weird but I really like the way your voice sounds. 😭 It's just so calming. Not even joking.
absolutely amazing, your videos are always a highlight!
Thank you so much! It saved me a lot of time! ( was thinking about installing Win 11 on a similar laptop)
Ran into this recently too. Had a old laptop similar age, ended up disconnecting from the internet and downloading the latest driver for the GPU that I could. Installing it first, then rebooting to see if windows could still boot. That seemed to solve my bootloop problem.
You should've uninstalled the bloatware, no surprise it runs at that much RAM & CPU %.
Instead you decided to install some more bloat (Alienware "Theme") & you had 165 system processes at 22:42
- Not to mention, that you've ran Windows and all those games on the integrated (CPU) graphics card instead of the dedicated (GPU) ones & you're wondering why the games can't run well :D. (Because of incompatibility of course, but there's a way to install them)
Had a great time watching, don't take these as "hate" but just an opinion on what can be improved to actually run these games. There's room for improvement, would love to see a follow-up if you decide to do some Windows Tweaking.
Nice Michael Awesome Video 🎉❤
I love how when you relaunch rocket league at 21:58 , even the game window says it's "cooked" 😂 and then in brackets it explains that the slang "cooked" means not responding
The fact that w11 could run those old apps (and they work as designed) is just awesome thing. If you compare it to mac that usually has zero backwards compatibility this is twice the awesome.
I love it when Michael MJD tries to run modern software on old outdated hardware. Can't wait for the next $5 windows 98 pc install!
Now before i even start watching. I own this laptop (I have a AW collection from 2010 - 2021) and it works almost perfect under windows 11. If you have any issues, its your specific machine.
This series of AW laptops from the 11 - the 18 were very well built machines and used extremely reliable hardware. HEnce why there are so many still around. Most other laptops from this era barely made it 5 years.
I have the M17r4 on the desk next to me now just for youtube while im gaming on my deasktop.
Love this series of machine.
I love the design of these Alienwares, they have such an amazing design in my opinion.
MichaelMJDs videos cure my depression
Way to go! You’ve “upgraded” the laptop from the best os to currently use to the worst one
I used my 2009 dell xps i7 desktop with an updated 4 gig 980 and it played pretty much every modern game I threw at it extremely well. That was back in like 2017 but still lol.
i had some 2009 hp compaq with a core2quad maxxed out and i could play minecraft on it
I have a Dell laptop from 2014 with an i5 and 16 Gb of RAM which is perfectly usable with Windows 10 nowadays but it's out of the compatibility list. Knowing that 10 will be unsupported the next year I found this video useful when it's time to make the upgrade to 11.
Good video, it looks like the mjd curse didn’t strike all that much this time
nice video i like your videos so i watch it all the time so keep it up!
Without PopCnt on processor, it cannot boot Windows 11. PopCnt wasn't available on any computers and laptops released before 2014 with any processor
I would not be surprised at all if there are user-created drivers for the that Nvidia mGPU. At minimum, I would probably try finding the latest drivers that do support it on an older OS version, and try to install that. If I get an error saying it's not allowed, I'd even tweak the inf file and try disabling driver signing temporarily to see if it will install.
I have had success with this in running Windows 7 drivers on Windows 10. So, even if it doesn't work on Windows 11, it might be worth trying Windows 10, since that is at least a current OS.
"Would you like to pin Microsoft Edge to your taskbar?" "No, we don't want to pin Microsoft Edge to the taskbar."
Uhhh... I'm not _that_ blind yet, but wasn't it already on the taskbar?
Did you try the Windows 7 Dell Driver for Nvidia? Sometimes OEMs do strange things to their cards that can cause OEM drivers to go crazy - especially when the part isn't fully supported anymore.
I did have similar issues with the GPU off my old Dell laptop as Well. After installation of W10 it would always work a few minutes untill Windows automaticly updated the Graphics Driver. After wihich it would freeze and Shutdown. The only way to fix it was just to disable the GPU in the device manager. It even froze after i manually installed the correct Driver. Asides from that the performance in W10 is still really good, the only thing it struggels with is TH-cam Videos over 1080p and battery life even with a new Battery. Still using it to this Day.
Dude, in case you didn't know, you can disable automatic driver updates in Windows so that they don't make your dGPU not work.
same thing here with my latitude 7490 with UHD 620, the difference is when i use linux, i need to add extra kernel boot parameter "i915_enable.dc=0" to fix it
edit: it's either that or i915.enable_dc=0
Does this work if your processor isn’t compatible?
hello Michael!
i am a new subscriber and i noticed te experiments you do on these machines
its quite awsome to see how this experiment turned out
it is a shame that you were not able to use its org gpu and integrated graphics is what you are stuck with
but you mentioned that the gpu driver is not compatible with win 11
how about win 10?
I have one of these. Damn reliable laptop. Doesn’t really work too well anymore but I ran with it windows 7 later to windows 10 all the way until 2020.
4:44: "No we don't want to pin Microsoft Edge to the taskbar."
Microsoft Edge on the taskbar: :|
I have a sony vaio vpccw16fa (core 2 duo p8700 and a nvidia geforce GT230M) I managed to upgrade to windows 11 when it was released. The support ended for 200 series at around 2016 windows 10 versions were there at that time so it can work for windows 11 which is basically a modified version of windows 10
However, the processor is still very slow with 11.
Try swapping out normal windows 11 for Tiny 11 and disable all telemetry in T11 along with all mods you can think of may find some improvement. Just a thought.
Tiny11 is not an option for daily use.
Many security measures are disabled, putting you at risk.
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Our whole universe was in a hot dense state
Then nearly 14 billion years ago, expansion started (wait)
The Earth began to cool
The autotrophs began to drool
Neanderthals developed tools
We built a wall (we built the pyramids)
Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery
That all started with the big bang
(Bang!)
Since the dawn of man is really not that long
As every galaxy was formed in less time than it takes to sing this song
A fraction of a second and the elements were made
The bipeds stood up straight
The dinosaurs all met their fate
They tried to leap, but they were late
And they all died (they froze their asses off)
The oceans and Pangaea
See ya, wouldn't wanna be set in motion by the same big bang
It all started with the big bang
It's expanding ever outward but one day
It will pause and start to go the other way
Collapsing ever inward, we won't be here, it won't be heard
Our best and brightest figure that it'll make an even bigger bang
Australopithecus would really have been sick of us
Debating how we're here, they're catching deer (we're catching viruses)
Religion or astronomy, Encarta, Deuteronomy
It all started with the big bang
Music and mythology, Einstein and astrology
It all started with the big bang
It all started with the big bang!!
How funny and coincidental it is that a few days ago I just did the same thing you did in this video for my old hp elitebook 850 g2 laptop I got from my dad a while back that I now use on the go. 😂
Love your vids tho. Can't wait for another one. 😉👍❤️
You should see how the OG Windows 7 install works in comparison and also throw AntiX Linux on it too afterwards. AntiX runs so absurdly light while being very usable and accessible as well.
wow great vidoe as always just one question is this laptop have a touch screen
The camera quality is just perfect the NGL vibes ahhhhh
Great video.
Does that laptop only go up to 4gb of ram? That seems a bit low, even for 2010, specially on a gaming laptop (MacBook Pros of the time got to 8 -16Gb back then, I believe)
Despite it being mostly not recommended, I suggest you run a third party driver updater; I personally use Driver Booster and it has solved issues for me more often than not (uninstall after updating, though)
Windows: "Would you like to pin Edge to the taskbar?"
Microsoft Edge already being pinned to the taskbar:
So weird thing is I have this exact laptop. I think windows 11 is the main issue here. I run mine with Windows 10 Atlas OS. And I play even some modern games at respectable frame rates at native resolution. Only difference is mine has 8GB ram. I actually got mine out to make sure I wasn’t crazy and it runs portal 2 at native resolution on medium settings getting anywhere from 40-55fps. I’d drop it down to either windows 10 or windows 10 atlas os. You’ll be surprised how much windows 11 ruins this machine.
If I remember correctly, you needed alienware OSD so you could switch between intergrated with discrete or discrete only GPU. There was a key combo to switch
I have been watching you since 2022
Funny enough, The Dell G15 that I mainly use actually has an Alienware Control Center for some reason. It IS a gaming laptop so I can see it, and It runs Windows 11 fine (which it CAME PRE-INSTALLED when I bought it new) but eventually, I need to install a second SSD. Also if you know where to look, you can TECHNICALLY apply Windows 7 themes to Windows 11. Theme sounds like Garden, Beaches, and even custom sound can STILL be added (barring startup and shutdown).
Well, aside from the Portal 2 spoilers that I've haven't completed yet, nice video
My acer Aspire V5 that runs an i3 and upgraded the ram from 4gb to 16gb and a 1TB SSD running windows 10. It runs like a champ for a computer from early 2012. I love that thing it handles short Photoshop and Illustrator Mock ups no problem.
This helped so much!!!
Love these type of videos
That is so cool!😀
Cool Video 😎
Great vid
I installed Windows 11 on my Acer Aspire Z5771 with an i5-2400S, 6GB RAM and integrated graphics and it runs quite well. I think the minimum to have a good experience is at least a 1st gen Core i CPU and 6GB RAM because of W11 being more resource hungry.
Do you still have it on there?
I have a Macbook Air 3, 2 and the Geforce 320M that's in it has not caused me any problems in windows 11 (i'm not using bootcamp, i directly installed windows). I can even run game ready drivers without any issues.
Finally!! An original MJD Video 🥲🥲🥲
Doing Things You Sohuldnt do but we do because we can!!
Finally not a gaming console or a gaming console bootleg
And an flashback to the time travel series
Thanks Case!!!!
Awesome, is that download-feature of rufus new? never saw (recognized) it O.O
I still use one of these machines as my diagnostics PC when I'm tinkering with retro laptops! It works great with Tiny10, but it was downright horrible with Windows 11, and mine has 8 GB of RAM.