@@Minecrafter123341 that's not the problem. It takes away your defensive options when you dodge, while the stripe is safe and sound with no risk. That means, he can hit you with one aerial, burn all your dodges with the gun, and then edge guard you
The biggest mistake multiversus could've made was giving that green fuck's forward air that much priority. On top of that a move with auto-locking aimbot that lets you kill offstage for free. I'm hitting zero to deaths with this character the first game playing him , that priority is insane , most unfun character to verse.
Honestly playing today and now watching this, it feels Stripe neutrals are just too quick and have too much priority. Not only his combo game is crazy, Twillight not even being able to dodge most of the time, but he also has priority over so many things ! Any of Stripe's air neutrals seem to have priority over an absurd amount of move, even with fast characters like Harley. Imagine the same situation with Reindog or Iron Giant ? They stand no chance AT ALL. Stripe is basically Arya's combos buffed + Jake unpunishability. I think he needs a nerf.
@@Bighoodiekid Agreed- Stripe is a problem especially in 1vs1 because well, in 2vs2 you always have a mate so you can 2vs1 focus the Stripe if he's good. But in 1vs1 when mastered the character feels really really hard to punish and therefore beat
I think the same thing , he is so broken , I played games where I win almost 80% of the time and now I’m losing to every stripe since he came out. The best counter I would say would be Finn
Should Stripe be nerfed, if so reply how? My nerf ideas: When I say reticle, I'm referring to the target placed on an enemy when Stripe hit's them. What makes Stripe so ridiculous is how much he gains off of a single win in neutral, here are two separate nerf ideas that fix that: Nerf Idea 1: Nerf gun strings. One bullet per reticle. The dodge window for Stripe's bullet is already extremely tight, but even if you do dodge it he can just shoot you again burning resources, so what if when Stripe shoots at you once the recital disappears, that way if the opponent hit's the tight dodge window they won't have to worry about follow ups unless the stripe actually put themselves at some sort of risk and approached you themselves. Nerf Idea 2: Make gun strings harder to access. The reticle is put on a stack system. (My preferred nerf) The power of Stripe's gun strings are just flat out insane when compared to how easy they are to access. All Stripe needs to do is hit the opponent once which starts a string that could potentially lead to death, so what these strings were harder to access. Stripe applies a stack every time he hits you and The stack maxes out around 3-5 hits. once the stack is fully maxed out the opponent has a timer applied to them that last about 10-30 seconds, during this time if Stripe hits that opponent the reticle is applied to them allowing strings to work exactly as they did before. This way Stripe still has his insane strings that can lead the opponent to an early death and make him so much fun to play, but he'll have to win neutral more to access these strings(something he already has the tools to handle). This also encourages more skillful play from online players over sair spamming into string.
Stripe probably needs a nerf to his gun but that's about it. Maybe add some recovery frames on hit and have the hitstun scale with damage. Give the defender a window where they can dodge out and defend themself at early percents and force the Stripe player to make a read instead of having a guaranteed kill confirm setup at like 60
Imo it's all the saw and side air that makes Stripe extremely good the saw is such an amazing projectile for controlling space and his side air Hitbox is kinda deceptively bigger then it looks
@@slowrest6041 that should lowkey be the first nerf then. Make it a projectile so we can use the already existing tools to try and nullify it. I can't believe it's not considered a projectile... So is there no travel time for the bullet? Does it just hit scan?
@@hueycotton no travel time I think. Im okay with it not being a projectile because stripe lacks reliable ways to spike oponents without gun, but the cooldown should be way longer in all his abilities.
@@AJAXHQ Of course, without demeaning the player, Stripe is very difficult to punish, in addition to being highly aggressive. With these characteristics it dictates the dynamics of any 1v1 match and this is not good for a game that seeks to be competitive. Like, come on the character was released yesterday and look at his performance in various match ups and competitions, this is not a good sign.
Zoo is incredibly talented at spacing his moves, it's really impressive. That said, Stripe's side air is disgusting. The gun seems like an interesting mechanic, but it should be on a character who's difficult to hit with, someone stubby like Steven.
An insane player with a good charecter is terrifying thing to go up against I feel like with stripe because of the lock-on with hit one mistake and zoo can annihilate
I mean... he's obviously a good player. But Stripe is clearly OP as fuck lol That gun is getting nerfed asap. Plus I'm pretty sure he said himself that Stripe is just better Batman so...
@@hueycotton attack decay gun should just be an interrupt with no real knockback, i've gotten so many kills as stripe with decayed gun shots that it's ridiculous
It's kinda sad when people abandon their mains when the character stop being good and some more op character comes to play, whatever to get the wins i guess.
Nah the gun just needs to have way more recovery time, if they remove the knock back it would be almost useless. The only way for the gun still be good and fair without knock back would be removing the disadvantage effect and removing the recovery time
People calling for nerfs need to understand that Stripe can be in OP in 1v1, but this game is balanced around 2v2s where Stripe is, from what I’ve seen on streams and vids, upper tier but not broken tier. Same thing when people were crying for crazy nerfs to Batman because he is OP in 1v1.
I feel like the fact that zoo was able to win this tournament with a character that has only been out for 2 days is testament enough to how broken he is
@@jozi9440 well zoo is a very good player, also while your right he did just come out people still have to learn the matchup. One thing I can already tell from stripe is that he has to work for kills.
@@jozi9440 no just like me he understands neutral and mind games, learning a character in a platformer game only takes an hour probably, it's not that difficult bro.
Bro how on earth did this Harley get this far, Bro barely uses the bear or the Jack in the box, arguably her best moves. Bros just trying his absolute hardest to capitalize off the infinite and up b. If Tymier played this stripe it wouldn't be a fair match frfr.
The competition at this tourney on that day wasn't as high as usual, with pin and sage not being there, and Chavo and retro both played stripe but clearly didn't have the time to practice as much as zoo did, but yea that Harley was living on the combo game and not doing much else, his movement wasn't great, pretty sure I could beat him with Harley and i rarely play one's
I really like stripe but the need to nerf saw blade his whole kit is way too centered around it and spammy. Id like to see his tnt buffed though seems like a really cool move but it just hurts you with not enough pay off
Reindog would be a good counter to stripe. Stripe is basically the successful version of taz. Chaotic and oppressive at short distances and enough projectile game to not get destroyed by long range fighters.
I'm sure Zoo is a great player but c'mon. Stripe is waaaay to op. That gun takes no skill whatsoever and there's literally nothing you can do about it. You just spam his attacks.
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I was looking forward to playing Stripe, but I think I'd like to sleep at night with a clean conscience instead.
exactly. feel bad about the first degree murder i commit with stripe
Lmaoooo
Feel bad about how I’m about to do you guys with the joker
Stripe has maximum priority since it’s a new character, literally unfair to play against at the moment.
What were they thinking with the gun. They really saw Happy Chaos on guilty gear and really thought that was a good mechanic
As fun as it is to use, yeah. It's a pretty crazy mechanic. It's soooooooo easy to juggle and knock people out.
It’s dodge able
@@Minecrafter123341 that's not the problem. It takes away your defensive options when you dodge, while the stripe is safe and sound with no risk. That means, he can hit you with one aerial, burn all your dodges with the gun, and then edge guard you
@@Minecrafter123341 it's bullshit that's what it is. Haha
@@vicentegeonix you right lmao
Love to see a Harley Quinn struggle , brings a tear to my eye
Did they buff her or something she uses to be kinda terrible why do people hate her
@@willycheez7218 she hasn’t been nerfed since the release of the game. She also had a bs kit and they made her faster making her harder to fight
@@GgSanity That's what it is. I played at release and she suuucked. Horrid damage output. I'm glad she's good now
@@willycheez7218she had an infinite combo and literally everyone was playing her and spamming that she had MASSIVE priority
The biggest mistake multiversus could've made was giving that green fuck's forward air that much priority. On top of that a move with auto-locking aimbot that lets you kill offstage for free. I'm hitting zero to deaths with this character the first game playing him , that priority is insane , most unfun character to verse.
Honestly playing today and now watching this, it feels Stripe neutrals are just too quick and have too much priority. Not only his combo game is crazy, Twillight not even being able to dodge most of the time, but he also has priority over so many things ! Any of Stripe's air neutrals seem to have priority over an absurd amount of move, even with fast characters like Harley. Imagine the same situation with Reindog or Iron Giant ? They stand no chance AT ALL. Stripe is basically Arya's combos buffed + Jake unpunishability. I think he needs a nerf.
harley been a lil too good for awhile now , think its time for a harley counter .
@@reroll4867 batman and ww were already great Harley counters. I see no weaknesses in stripes game. Actually Stripe has 60%+ winrate in 1v1s 💀
@@Bighoodiekid Agreed- Stripe is a problem especially in 1vs1 because well, in 2vs2 you always have a mate so you can 2vs1 focus the Stripe if he's good. But in 1vs1 when mastered the character feels really really hard to punish and therefore beat
harley is one of the slowest lmao
@@reroll4867 I'm pretty sure both are gonna get nerfed.
zoo didn’t even have to hit him w the chainsaw attack
great video i luv this content !! the commentary was so on point on this one
I'm telling you guys. Are you playing online? Stripe is insanely overpowered it's completely not fun at all to play against him
I think the same thing , he is so broken , I played games where I win almost 80% of the time and now I’m losing to every stripe since he came out. The best counter I would say would be Finn
I’m a Finn main at level 23 and stripes are giving me trouble as well he’s annoying af!!!
No wonder people don't want to play this game.
Stripe is super fun and Zoo has opened my eyes to just how good he is
When Zoo wins with stripe he is super fun to use, when Zoo wins with Batman, he's broken, c'mon guys get your shit together
@@strizzone01 I mean… Batman is broken? We don’t really know where strips lies in the Meta atm while we know Batman breaks the meta
@@nornornornor9204 clearly he's broken too, with that aim and saws... come on!
@@strizzone01 agreed I do think Batman is really good but he's not unbeatable.
That’s not “good”, that’s broken. BIG difference
Zoo is just built different wow
Where is this tournament being held?
Yeah he’s definitely getting nerfed
Should Stripe be nerfed, if so reply how?
My nerf ideas:
When I say reticle, I'm referring to the target placed on an enemy when Stripe hit's them.
What makes Stripe so ridiculous is how much he gains off of a single win in neutral, here are two separate nerf ideas that fix that:
Nerf Idea 1: Nerf gun strings. One bullet per reticle.
The dodge window for Stripe's bullet is already extremely tight, but even if you do dodge it he can just shoot you again burning resources, so what if when Stripe shoots at you once the recital disappears, that way if the opponent hit's the tight dodge window they won't have to worry about follow ups unless the stripe actually put themselves at some sort of risk and approached you themselves.
Nerf Idea 2: Make gun strings harder to access. The reticle is put on a stack system. (My preferred nerf)
The power of Stripe's gun strings are just flat out insane when compared to how easy they are to access. All Stripe needs to do is hit the opponent once which starts a string that could potentially lead to death, so what these strings were harder to access. Stripe applies a stack every time he hits you and The stack maxes out around 3-5 hits. once the stack is fully maxed out the opponent has a timer applied to them that last about 10-30 seconds, during this time if Stripe hits that opponent the reticle is applied to them allowing strings to work exactly as they did before. This way Stripe still has his insane strings that can lead the opponent to an early death and make him so much fun to play, but he'll have to win neutral more to access these strings(something he already has the tools to handle). This also encourages more skillful play from online players over sair spamming into string.
Make the perks work against his gun as “projectiles”
literally happy chaos but in multiversus
Where is this at im tryna play
Stripe probably needs a nerf to his gun but that's about it. Maybe add some recovery frames on hit and have the hitstun scale with damage. Give the defender a window where they can dodge out and defend themself at early percents and force the Stripe player to make a read instead of having a guaranteed kill confirm setup at like 60
Fun character, love the air chainsaw.
Imo it's all the saw and side air that makes Stripe extremely good the saw is such an amazing projectile for controlling space and his side air Hitbox is kinda deceptively bigger then it looks
Yea i u look at the side air his whole body dam near go back as his arms take hella space
And hits earlier then it lookd
Like the Hitbox appears even before he swings so timing it is so easy
Have you seen his grounded normals the hitbox on them is gigantic
Zoo is a MENACE
Bruh I live here? How do I sign up 😭
Startgg look up MultiVersus Mayhem
Can also come to the store and enter there
I do hope this isn't the end of Zoo's Batman
Does school me once protect against gun after being shot once?
that, sir, is an excellent fucking question
gun is not a proyectile
@@slowrest6041 that should lowkey be the first nerf then. Make it a projectile so we can use the already existing tools to try and nullify it. I can't believe it's not considered a projectile... So is there no travel time for the bullet? Does it just hit scan?
@@hueycotton no travel time I think. Im okay with it not being a projectile because stripe lacks reliable ways to spike oponents without gun, but the cooldown should be way longer in all his abilities.
@@slowrest6041 I could see that being another way to nerf him. Regardless, my boy gettin nerfed lol
The only tools he needed from the kit seemed to be saw, side air, and gun. Didnt he even use dynamite in the 1st two sets.
Imagine stripe with the triple jump perk
I have that
And zoo has it?
How is posible to be that good with a character that has just 1 day of been released?
Skill and Talent.
@@Arnell_Long unbalanced range and kit, just like Rick he'll be nerfed to the ground, and then will be balanced.
@@katsuLucas It's highly possible and likely but time will tell exactly what changes are made.
Zoo is just that good
@@AJAXHQ Of course, without demeaning the player, Stripe is very difficult to punish, in addition to being highly aggressive. With these characteristics it dictates the dynamics of any 1v1 match and this is not good for a game that seeks to be competitive.
Like, come on the character was released yesterday and look at his performance in various match ups and competitions, this is not a good sign.
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Stripe is Batman on steroids stupidly quick massive hitboxs on his moves and priority for days he definitely needs toning down
I’m glad that he did Harley like that cause Harleys just know how to spam shit
Stripe is the least fun character to play against. He's only been out for a little bit and I already hate him
Zoo is incredibly talented at spacing his moves, it's really impressive. That said, Stripe's side air is disgusting. The gun seems like an interesting mechanic, but it should be on a character who's difficult to hit with, someone stubby like Steven.
Does he only play OP characters or something? Lol
lol he didn't make the character, if you can't beat 'em join 'em
The mf just came out he’s probably having fun ‘or something’
And this is proof that Zoo never got carried by Batman, he's just an incredible player.
An insane player with a good charecter is terrifying thing to go up against I feel like with stripe because of the lock-on with hit one mistake and zoo can annihilate
If anything it’s more proof stripe is op as hell
I mean... he's obviously a good player. But Stripe is clearly OP as fuck lol That gun is getting nerfed asap.
Plus I'm pretty sure he said himself that Stripe is just better Batman so...
@@hueycotton attack decay gun should just be an interrupt with no real knockback, i've gotten so many kills as stripe with decayed gun shots that it's ridiculous
It's kinda sad when people abandon their mains when the character stop being good and some more op character comes to play, whatever to get the wins i guess.
Stripe is the Harley killer. Lol coming from me, a Harley main. 🤣
I no joke lost to like 6 stripes in a row as Harley
He feels like Harley but with an actual neutral game and even more oppressive advantage state
@@truz8134 yep! It's hella difficult!
Yeah lowkey stripe needs a nerf. The gun shouldn’t do knock back,m
He’s 100% getting nerfed.
Nah the gun just needs to have way more recovery time, if they remove the knock back it would be almost useless. The only way for the gun still be good and fair without knock back would be removing the disadvantage effect and removing the recovery time
Might as well just take the gun away at that point
People calling for nerfs need to understand that Stripe can be in OP in 1v1, but this game is balanced around 2v2s where Stripe is, from what I’ve seen on streams and vids, upper tier but not broken tier. Same thing when people were crying for crazy nerfs to Batman because he is OP in 1v1.
F Harley
I think stripe is pretty good but I think we should wait a little before saying he is broken.
I feel like the fact that zoo was able to win this tournament with a character that has only been out for 2 days is testament enough to how broken he is
@@jozi9440 well zoo is a very good player, also while your right he did just come out people still have to learn the matchup. One thing I can already tell from stripe is that he has to work for kills.
@@jozi9440 no just like me he understands neutral and mind games, learning a character in a platformer game only takes an hour probably, it's not that difficult bro.
fun and balanced
It’s not , stripe is fucking broken as shiet
Bro how on earth did this Harley get this far, Bro barely uses the bear or the Jack in the box, arguably her best moves. Bros just trying his absolute hardest to capitalize off the infinite and up b. If Tymier played this stripe it wouldn't be a fair match frfr.
The competition at this tourney on that day wasn't as high as usual, with pin and sage not being there, and Chavo and retro both played stripe but clearly didn't have the time to practice as much as zoo did, but yea that Harley was living on the combo game and not doing much else, his movement wasn't great, pretty sure I could beat him with Harley and i rarely play one's
I really like stripe but the need to nerf saw blade his whole kit is way too centered around it and spammy. Id like to see his tnt buffed though seems like a really cool move but it just hurts you with not enough pay off
Jesus Christ
Reindog would be a good counter to stripe. Stripe is basically the successful version of taz. Chaotic and oppressive at short distances and enough projectile game to not get destroyed by long range fighters.
I have to try reindog but Finn been working for me
2 of the cheapest characters.
yea... stripe is way too overpowered. It's actually made me not want to play the game. It's just so unfun playing against it.
I'm sure Zoo is a great player but c'mon. Stripe is waaaay to op. That gun takes no skill whatsoever and there's literally nothing you can do about it. You just spam his attacks.
he has to get a hit in order for the gun to be useful, yeah increase the recovery time of the bullet but the bullets themselves are not op
Nerf Harley first
@@crocsoncrocsman6273 basically did
disgusting those who use stripe
Stripe is HORRIBLE You don't necessarily have to be good it's just an annoying character
This game is way to laggy, I'll stick with smash bros