Finally someone who gives pragmatic opinions, and does not just do handwaving. So many "comparison" videos end up like "Well ultimately it's up to you." I like that he actually gave a recommendation, backed up by arguments about realistic use cases.
Picked up the 23mm f/2 and 50mm f/2 with my XT3 & 18-55. and couldn’t be happier. I’m sure more lenses will be added to the bag in time, but for now, this kit has me covered.
Being one or two stops slower has never been a problem for me, back in the 1970s I found that holding the camera correctly, tucking the elbows in allowed me to shoot at slower speeds and still get away with it. Some lens lend themselves optically to being near perfect at certain f stops, a casing point being the Nikkor 50mm f2 AI, what s superb lens, always enjoyed this lens more than the 1,8 or 1.4. versions , these days I still tend to shoot lens with a maximum no faster than f2, saying that I do own an xf 35 1.4, which I like, but my 23/2 gets a lot more use especially on my X-T2. Great video by the way.
Depends on the lens. The 35mm f2 is better than the older one. The 23mm f1.4 is sharper than the new one and 56mm has slower AF but more bokeh. Good comparison and excellent video!!
I own both 35mm lenses and almost never use the f/2. It just lacks the character of the older lens, and contrary to these reviews, I don’t find it sharper at the same apertures (maybe f/2 is sharper than f/1.4). I also find it distorts more than the original. I will be selling it soon since it gets almost no use-I may pick up the Zeiss Touit 32/1.8, since I really miss that lens sometimes.
valerio petaccia the 35/2 is a bit sharper at f/2 than the 35/1.4 is wide open, but I find them about the same at f/2. The 1.4 has a more pleasing look to me (and is capable of shallower DOF, of course). The 1.4 is quite sharp in the middle of the frame, even wide open, but doesn’t get tack sharp corner to corner until f2.8 or maybe f/4 depending on the scene (how contrasty/sharp-edged the image is, and lighting). I also find the 35/2 has a little more contrast wide open than the 35/1.4, but that can be easily added in post. The faster focusing advantage of the 35/2 has largely been erased with the advancements of the X-T3, so my preference goes to the 35/1.4 for its extra stop of light and the beautiful rendering it has (which is subjective and hard to explain). I shoot a lot of very low light candids and portraits at festivals and on the street, so the lowlight capabilities are important for me. I’m not sure if that’s helpful, but I would agree with Andrew that if low light is important, that’s the biggest factor in deciding between the two. I used to own the Zeiss Touit 32/1.8 and that lens was noticeably sharper than the 35/1.4 until around f4 where the Fuji pulled ahead. I may sell my 35/2 to get this lens again, because it had such wonderful “pop” wide open, and had a character I loved particularly for B&W. There’s a great comparison between these two lenses here: admiringlight.com/blog/zeiss-touit-32mm-f1-8-planar-vs-fujifilm-fujinon-xf-35mm-f1-4/
@@sidhammer9461 great answer! I'm sorry for my english;). a last consideration: if you want to buy the objective xf 23 1.4 ..... with respect to xf 23 f2? how sharpness? thanks
Some very honest testing backed up with images and easy to understand information. The f2's are my choice due to size and extra weather protection. 👍🏻's up Andrew.
Definitely helped me - I was torn between the 23mm lenses, but I think the 1.4 is what I really want, even if it takes me a little longer to save up. I was hoping to not buy one and get an x100 instead but there isn't enough eye relief for my glasses and it's so difficult to use one! Thanks again for a great video and making it much clearer what the key differences are in the real world.
I try my dangest to not be a gear junkie, but alas I'm an engineer by trade. I just want to thank you for making this so clear and helpful. The one big thing that hit me was your comparison of AF speeds. Later on in the video, you say it's a matter of milliseconds, but some of us shoot on an X-E1, and we need all the AF speed we can get! I have the 23 f/2 now and love it. I think I'm pulling the trigger on the 50 f/2 this year. I was convinced I wanted the 35 f/1.4, but now you have me thinking (and saving money). Thanks again!
Having done the whole X-T1, X-T20, X-T3 journey, my perfect prime lineup is: 16mm f1.4, 23mm f1.4, 35mm f2, 56mm 1.2 (perfect portraiture), 90mm f2 WR macro. And get the discounted 18-55 lens with the purchase of a body for ultimate versatility, it is a great value lens. I don’t care for zooms with a small mirrorless system, it would however make some sense for a single camera (non full-frame) user.
While I was debating on choosing either the Fuji 23mm F2 or F1.4, I happened to see your video. The facts and your reasoning help me to realize which are the most important factors for my decision. Thanks for the informative video and please keep on making them to benefit photographers like me. I decided to keep some of my money, go for F2 for reasonably fast lens and forget about the minor bokeh advantage.
I've had the 23 f2 and the 23 1.4 for like 2 years and I absolutely prefer the image quality of the 1.4. I've never liked the way my images look out of the 23 f2, I also feel similarly about the f2 on the X100F. But if you needs something fast, light, and weather sealed the f2 is a no brainer.
This exactly trio prime i have, while 56 only for portrait, i'm more to 23mm shooter and the f2 sizeand WR is tempting me. My finger now one click away from ordering one literally 😅
16 F1.4 27 F2.8 pancake 35 F2 lens I use most In the market for 50 or 56.. leaning towards 50 for now 55-200 great zoom to have one of the few to be made in Japan
I second that, I had the 56, it was okay, sold it. Later I bought the 50 and IMO is sooo much better, that closer focusing is a huge deal! You should know I don't shoot portraiture, I only do nature and landscapes, so things like flowers etc, the 50 works much better for me.
Okay weird comment time: The 50mm has a lens hood that I find fantastic, simple cheap plastic, but snapping it on and off had a nearly figet spinner level of therapeutic sensation. Like a VW car key, you just have to keep pressing the button and closing the key over and over again LOL.
Im an Olympus shooter myself, but have used Fuji back when I had 2 XE-1's...I loved loved my Fuji's, but have invested a ton into my Olympus system, which I also love. Actually many systems are so good you really do have to have GAS in order to care. But to my point, I loved your review which was concise, but well rounded...provided image samples and really gave a break down to the differences and why one would care. Excellent job!
I always thought it was ridiculous when I see comments like "I liked this before I watched it"....I just did that. What can I say. I've been a fan for a long time Andrew. I know quality and informative, considered content is guaranteed. Now let me watch the video haha
Great video and very useful info. One of my first len's was the 35mm f1.4. It was slow, noisy, and a hunter, but when it lock in, it is magic. I picked up the 35mm f2 and was surprised at the build and the Leica shape. It is quick and sharp. But I ended up keeping both as each has a unique personality, individual to each lens. Now with the X-H1, I was shooting with the 35mm f1.4 and found it has achieved new life, it is now just as fast as the f2 and the hunt has all but disappeared. The f2 remains in my travel kit due to its weather sealing and I use the X-Pro2 as a second body and it allows full use of the Optical viewfinder.
Not s no brainers. Ig you have any kind of talented eye for photography, and are a true artist, there ate significant differences between these lenses, and you dont have to be a pixel peeper to notice these. Also, for anyone that wants to print(and it would be dumb as hell to have a real camera and never print), the differences will abs6be noticeable. Read other reviews
Thanks for another great video! I totally agree with your findings! I owned all six lenses (simultaneously for around a year) and after much use of all the lenses I finally decided on selling the 23 f/2 (horrendously hazy close up performance btw) and 50 f/2 in spite of faster, and almost silent, AF and perhaps somewhat better “technical” sharpness - keeping 23 f/1.4, 35 f/1.4 56 f/1.2. I just love the “true to life quality” these lenses are capable of rendering. The f/2 versions (all of them) in my opinion have much more “processed” way of making images. Lastly - being such a good X-Pro2-partner for everyday shooting the 35 f/2 got to stay too!
agree! disappointed with the 23mm F2, coming from full frame 35mm prime, I didn't really get it with the Fuji 23mm F2? So I save my money and try the 23mm F1.4, hopefully I wont be disappointed with it. Using XT-3 this has breathed new life into old lenses when it comes to AF. Therefore AF on old lenses is not such an issue with the XH1 an Xt3 especially XT3.
Thank you. I have, among others, the 16 mm 1.4 and the 23 mm 2, and I never liked what I produced with the latter. Cannot tell why, but you are giving me a hint.
My 23mm f1.4 with metal hood will never be replaces by the 23mm f2 because of the extremely scientific consideration of: It looks soooo cool!! Best video on the topic btw
Great video! Speaking as a professional travel photographer for over 35 years...and being somewhat new to Fuji, I'd say size and weight were the determining factors for me. Belonging to the cult of Nikon for more than three decades, it was hard to wrap my brain around switching platforms. However, as I've gotten older and my back has gotten weaker, I decided to go mirrorless to save a little wear and tear on my body. I'm glad I did. I just wandered around the streets of India for almost six weeks with my XT-2 and F2 primes. This was my second trip to India with Fuji mirrorless, and, once again, it did not disappoint! I got amazing images and I was able to carry my small camera bag around 10-12 hours a day without any issues. Honestly, I think for the most part, only pixel peepers who spend their days "analyzing" as opposed to getting their asses out there and shooting, will be the only people who notice any significant differences between these lenses. I guess if I were a wedding photographer, I might have a different opinion, but anyone who is either a street or travel photographer should opt for the F2 versions. One other note...unless you're in a studio setting or shooting a lot in super low light, f1.2 or f1.4 are not particularly well suited for street portraiture because it's sooooo easy to be just slightly out of focus when you're on the go. Over the years, I have scrapped many potentially great images shot wide open because they were a little too soft for my taste.
I will send you a link shortly from a different user account. I usually use this account for posting on political issues...and prefer not to have it associated with my professional work because things are too heated at the moment! LOL.
I really like that you used the peeling paint images to display sharpness. I see so many reviewers use something without fine texture (ie textureless superhero toys) where you really can't compare sharpness properly. Nice practical honest video, and I like that you mention lens vanity, as almost all of us need to be honest with ourselves about that. Great practical information!.
I am so impressed with the 35mmf2 , that I sold the really great 16mmf1.4... hoping that the upcoming 16mmf2.8 is good replacement i am looking for. I just find myself enjoy shooting with smaller lens than the big one.
Andrew, again a nice well-balanced job with this video. Thank you. I have the 23/f2, 35/f2 and 50/f2 so-called "Fujicrons". I acquired the just released 16/f2.8 "Fujicron" this week. It's a fantastic lens, less than half the weight and much smaller than my 16/f1.4 (which I do intend to keep). I appreciate the faster focusing, QUIET focusing, and weather sealing, lighter weight and smaller bulk of all the "Fujicron" lenses. They are ideal for travel, especially when my travel is self-propelled (on foot, biking, etc.). The 50/f2, after some practice and visual readjustment has become my preferred lens for portraits (over my soon-to-be-sold 56/f1.2, bokeh be damned). Lastly, all of the smaller "Fujicrons" allow me to shoot more discretely, especially for street photography. Again, these are just my choices that meet my needs well. It seems we all have to find our way, and that's just fine. Happy shooting!
I don't often comment but just have to say, what an excellent video. Your tests are well-formulated and your arguments are thoughtful and balanced. This might be the best gear advice video I've seen.
That is how a review should be done. I'm interested in switching to Fuji, because i like the new T3 and T30 bodies. Your review gave me more info about the lens selection and what I can expect than all 3 previous videos I watched combined. Keep up the good work. And in terms of the lenses themselves - all wide angle lenses I ever had, I shot a bit closed down anyway. I would buy the shorter ones in f/2 variation and the 56 in f/1.2 to get a "proper" portrait lens
Great video here. Would have been amazing to see the difference f/1.4 or f/1.2 really does in a few low light scenarios vs f/2.0... I think that's what most of us came here for, rather than sharpness and vignetting or bokeh :)
I own all 3 fast lenses and the 35/2. I rarely find myself grabbing the f/2 version, because I find the rendering in the 35/1.4 more pleasing. I also shoot in really low light a lot, so I use that extra stop a lot. The X-T3 breathes new life into these older lenses. They are MUCH faster at acquiring focus than they are with my X-T2/X-Pro2, and also make less noise since they barely hunt anymore. It’s such a difference that it made me have no buyers remorse about my upgrade even though IQ is almost indistinguishable. I‘ve never understood all the complaints about the 23/1.4 as I’ve always found that to be the fastest focusing of the three with the least noise (almost on par with the 16/1.4), and I love the images coming out of it. I have typically heard that the 23/2 is not as sharp, which this test seems to contradict 🤷🏻♂️ Another one to consider is the Zeiss Touit 32/1.8, which rarely gets mentioned. I wish I still had that lens and might sell my 35/2 to get it-it is more contrasty than the 35/1.4 at 1.8, and sharper across the frame than either Fuji wide open. It has a beautiful character, particularly for B&W shots, and a more “vintage glass” bokeh (subjective and difficult to explain why/what I mean by that). I have no issues with the size/weight if my fast glass and whenever I have slower lenses on I usually wish I could have that extra stop once the sun goes down or I’m in a simply lit place.
Great review, thanks! I'm a commercial portrait photographer and plan to get each of the primes you talk about (in f2). Though I have shot with the faster versions, I prefer the smaller less expensive versions.
Best comparison video I've seen for these. I've watched a few whilst considering my purchase. You nailed it! Answered all the questions I had in my mind. I'll be purchasing the 35mm f2.
For pure outright portraiture the 56mm is hard to beat, but I’ve grown to love the little 50mm for street photography and as a general purpose lens. In my experience it’s the best of the three “fujicron”s in terms of edge-to-edge sharpness and (micro) contrast.
Thank you for another great video! I've been going through the backlog of your vids, and really appreciate all the hard work you do. I miss my 23mm 1.4, but I'm having a hard time justifying a re-buy now I have the 23mm f2.
I find the f/2 versions more "clinical" looking for portraits. I prefer the faster versions for portraits and weddings as it produces better fall off and just to me seems to create more pleasing images of people. I don't use the 35mm much so usually only carry the 23 and 56. I usually also add the 90 f/2. The nice advantage is that they all use the 62mm filter thread so I can carry a single size filter for all 3 lenses. Now when I do landscapes or am traveling, I take the f/2 versions since they are smaller and weather sealed. I don't own the 50mm since I have the 50-140 for landscapes and occasional wildlife. The nice thing there is the 23 and 35 use the 43mm filter thread so just a single filter and Lee adapter for those lenses.
Rick Louie my thoughts exactly. The 35mm f2 is an awesome lens in every way, but I just find it too clinical. The f1.4 version produces unique images I love. It’s the reason I love the 18mm f2. Despite the hate it gets online, as a wide angle portrait lens I love it
Thanks for the great review. I have both the 23 f1.4 and f2 versions. In use, I don't really see any issues with slow focusing on either using a X-Pro2 and that's shooting on the street. Love the clutch system on the 1.4 versio as well. I would say the subtle difference besides the honking size of the 1.4 version, is a quality of the way it renders light on surfaces in certain light subtle but there at least for me. Just IMO.
Great review and I tend to agree with almost everything you’ve covered....I’ve had all of the f/2 lenses and not too long ago I sold off my entire Fuji lens collection keeping only the 23mm f1.4 and the 56mm f1.2. Everything is personal preference and what your needs are, for me I can’t seem to take the 23mm f1.4 off of my X-T2! I love that lens! The 56mm f1.2 and the 23mm f1.4 just seems to have a special kinda mojo that I just love how both lenses render my photos!
Hi Andrew, thanks so much for a great video. I owned both the 35mm and 50mm f2 lenses and traded them for their f1.4 and f1.2 cousins. I'm pretty happy with my decision. The extra weight, noise and slight lack of speed aren't a major problem for me. I think there's something about the images these faster lenses produce which is more pleasing. Maybe just me of course...
Thanks for the comparisons. Originally, I purchased the 56mm f/1.2, 23mm f/1.4, and 16mm f/1.4 lenses for low light shooting with my X-Pro1 bodies. Later, I happened to get a 23mm f/2 with a X-Pro2 body that I purchased. I had planned on selling the 23 f/2 until I tried it. I decided to keep it after I fell in love its weather resistance, smaller size, and lighter weight. I also prefer it for street shooting over my 23 f/1.4 version. Now I have two 23mm lenses.
In my opinion, the 90mm f.2 is a good alternative to the 56mm f/1.2. The separation is similar, bokehlicious both of them. But the 90mm focuses night and day faster. Also, the longer reach can be useful for compression.
Thanks for another well-contextualised perspective, Special Agent Andrew. You are liberating our cognitive load so that we're free to make better decisions, and lead friendlier lives :) For many years I lusted for the XF56mm F/1.2 (which at that time was considered fast-focussing...!), yet by the time I had the chance to extend my kit my choice was clear: XF50mm F/2 and the XF90mm F/2; they're both very swift and very sharp, and if I have the time and space for the XF90 then it has comparable bokeh capacities to the XF56 due to the extra focal length. The XF56 is very charming, yet I felt it more practical to have the compact XF50 and the exotic XF90. Another factor for me, though, was that my first Fujinon was the XF35mm F/1.4, so I already had a low-light option with a versatile focal range. Someone with a slightly tight budget who wants a tight yet complete kit may be well-served by the XF27mm F/2.8*, the XF56mm F/1.2 and the XC50-230mm F/slow - this way they'd have range, lowlight, bokeh, and super-compact modes (swap to XF16mm F/2.8 + XF35mm F/1.4 for a wider version). The XF35mm F/1.4 is integral to my concept of the Fuji image-making experience**. I don't think that the XF33mm F/1.0 would replace it simply because of the huge weight difference. The F/1.0 is definitely on my radar, but with a Foveon kit as well and its new place in the messianic L-Mount Alliance, I have more on my radar than I will practically be using or buying for some time... . . . . . ! * the XF27 is my most used lens, and it only cost $99 after cashback + discount. ** as is the X-Pro1 which I should really pass on to a younger photographer, but which I'm not yet ready to part with.
So good to see an actual photographer comparing this stuff. Thanks man, really, thanks. I'm about to purchase an X-T30 with the 35F2 in about 2 hours through a site similar to ebay - I hope all goes well. Thanks again. Take care. And I love the kindness before cameras motto.
For me as an amateur 50 f/2 over 56 f/1.2 and 23mm f/2 over 23mm f/1.4 considering cost and practicality. However I chose 35mm f/1.4 over 35 f/2. they are very close in terms of size/weight and much closer in price than the other comparisons. 35mm f/1.4 is a great lens and I love the images it puts out. AF is really fast enough for me. I couldn’t tell a difference at decent lit situations. 35mm f/2 possibly performs slightly better in low light. On 35mm f/1.4 focusing motor is loud though. Definitely the loudest I have ever used.
I switched from Canon to Fuji and with Canon I really needed that extra step that the fast prime lenses gave me but with Fuji it's different and yes all these lenses are fantastic but the f/2 series are more than enough for me in all conditions. Thanks for a nice review!
So many similar videos from other bloggers are terrible but this was great - you genuinely take a position and give great reasoning without taking 1,000 yrs to do so. Thanks and keep up the good work!
I have a bunch of these, and the F2 versions I believe are all around better except the 56mm 1.2 is too good not to have at that length. If you're doing any sort of all purpose stuff the F2 ones are great, even for portraits. If you have the time to slowly and methodically set up shots with the 1.4 versions and can afford them they're great.
I initially got hold of the 35 f1.4 lens, and after using it for a while I got the 35mm f2 as well. The main difference I find between the 2 is that the f2 more confidently grabs focus where the f1.4 tends to hunt every time it focuses, even if it is just for a split second. The weather sealing was also a big factor in getting the 35 f2 to go with the XT2 for wedding / event work, but I still love using the 35 f1.4 for personal projects as there is a 'look' to the images that the f2 doesn't seem to give, and TBH I think it is mainly down to the softer edges when it is wide open.
zallon, would you buy the 23 f/1.4 again or would you consider the f/2? Curious about the reason for your choice and what your primary motivators were and and your experience. Thanks :)
BROis I would. I shoot weddings with full frame Canon, so I’m used to subject isolation that I get with the 35 F/1.4, 50 F/1.4 and the long end of the 70-200 F/2.8. So when it comes to crop, I like to control my DOF and at 23mm the F/1.4 does a decent job. Not as good as my 35L on my 5D, but good enough for family use when traveling.
Awesome video thank you. Sticking to my 23 1.4, and there is no way i replace the 56 1.2. This lens is the main reason to go fuji. But i came here to decided which 35 to get, and the f2 it is. Thanks again
Oh and I forgot to mention! For the 23mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.2 you can get the lens cap from the 80mm f2.8 macro separately for $15 if you’re like me and hate the original lens caps but love the new Fujifilm lens cap designs. Well worth it in my opinion as the old lens caps are terrible.
Great video and the fact that the 50f2 was so impressive for you is really eye opening considering you have previously stated the 56 as a must own for potrait shooters (as does everybody else). I love my 35f2 and still think the 23f1.4 would be a great compliment to it but the price differential is pretty high. At the end of the day unless one really needs the low light capabilities I think most people´s love for the faster primes is due to vanity as the big glass is definitely sexier and seeing 1. something on your lens just seems so much cooler :)
Many many thanks for a wonderfully pragmatic review of these lenses. I purchased the f2 versions of each primarily for travel. Weight, size and convenience were my deciding factors. By and large I'm extremely happy with my decision but I would say that at very very low light the the 35mm (50mm) and 50mm (80mm) do at times struggle to focus. They get there but they take some coaxing. The 23mm (35mm) however is a champion and for my recent holiday in Italy it was welded on to the X-Pro 2. In all though I'm extremely happy with my purchase but I do like the idea of a 1.2 aperture. Again many thanks for a great review of 6 outstanding lenses.
The newer f2 lenses focus so much faster and more quietly that I just don't enjoy using my f1.4 Fujis anymore. That sounds shallow, and I wish it wasn't the case, but there it is.
I did not have the same experience as you with the 23 f/2 vs the 23 f/1.4. I found the sharpness and detail much better on the 23 f/1.4 and I’ve found my 23 f/1.4 very sharp, where I had to stop down the f/2 to get any decent sharpness at all. Now as for the 35, the out of focus area and vignetting create a special character for the lens.
Best reviews on youtube for Fuji followers!! After watching your reviews on youtube i have become even more addicted to fuji lenses that i have ended up buying nearly every fuji prime lens!! I am like a kid in a toystore and i have to have them all because all fuji lenses are that GOOD!!!
Great review. I was doubting whether to get one of the fast lenses or two of the "slow" ones. What I just learned is that except for the bokeh (and obviously low light performance) , the f2's are ahead or equal to the faster siblings. Am I missing something? So, two lenses it is. YEAHY!
The ultimate test video, great one Andrew, I can't believe noone has made this test before. I have / have tried all of these lenses and I think you're spot on in your conclusions. Although I must say that I'm more partial to the 1.4 lenses myself, mainly due to the more "dreamy" rendering. The f2 ones are almost too "clinical". I'm especially fond of the 35 f1.4, the chattering is charmy and the rendering is dreeaaamy! Thank you for making this video, it had to be done and you made a great one, leaving no aspect uncovered!
I think you hit the nail on the head! personally, I went with the f2's because I put them in my coat pockets while i walk around/travel. In regards to the 50mm f2 what i found is because you can focus closer than the 56mm, in certain situations you can actually end up with more out of focus areas than the 56mm can provide but only in certain situations. The 50mm is also more frame filling because of its closer focusing. And as someone has mentioned the 23mm f2 at it min focus can have a milky appearance solved by stopping down. I think Fuji if they can! should release firmware to limit its closer focusing capabilities. But neither here nor there really people just need to be aware is all
That's a really good point regarding the close focus of the 50mm f2. I think that actually seals the deal for me. I think I'm going to be picking one up. Thanks for your comment!
Denae & Andrew no worries! glad my little ramble gave you some food for thought. I like to think of the 50mm f2 as mini 90mm. I look forward to seeing what pictures you take with it!
Great review. I really enjoyed how in-depth you went for each lens comparison. Personally, I own the 23mmf2 & 35mmf2 and just recently bought the 56mmf1.2. I love the first 2 lenses and would never want to get rid of them as they are my "go to" lenses for street photography. For me, I chose the 56mm simply because I wanted a bit more reach than the 50mmf2 had to offer. As a former full frame shooter, I loved shooting at the 85mm focal length and this gives me that. I debated between the 50mm & 56mm, but the overwhelming reviews for the 56mm won me over. Is speed important to me? Absolutely, but so are all of the other factors that these lenses have to offer. In the end, the reach of the 56mm over the 50mm just put it over the edge.
You're just the best channel for fuji x users. I changed recently to fuji system and your channel is helping me a lot. Thanks for sharing your experiences about Fuji.
Excellent comparison and timely! You're a great Fuji ambassador... hope they make you one. I love how you compare every aspect of the lens that matters to different people. I totally geek out on bokeh/isolation, so I ordered the 56 f/1.2, however unsure about the 23mm. I really want the speed/bokeh/DoF of the 1.4, but I'm going to hate it for video and run&gun. Might just get the f/2 as a daily lens. Hard to fathom an f/2 on an APS-C... UGH!! The difference in price doesn't bother me, but that slow/loud motor does. First world problems, I know! Thanks again :)
I had all the F/2 lenses and sold them all. In the process of replacing them with 1.4/1.2 versions. The 56mm F/1.2 is one of the best portrait lenses I have ever used. I just bought a 35mm F/1.4 and am waiting on it's arrival. I will pick up the 23mm F/1.4 next year. The extra light gathering ability with these lenses is extremely important for the type of work I do. AF speed may be a bit slower and AF may be a bit noisy but light gathering is KING for me.
Great video! To me, anything f/2.8 or faster is a fast lens, though of course the smaller the number the faster the lens. From my point of view f/2.0 (and I put f/1.9, f/1.8, and f/1.7 in the same class) is fast enough, though for a few applications a faster lens might be marginally more useful.
Man, I hope the new 16mm f2.8 has the same great close focusing and IQ as the f1.4 counterpart. Considering the reputation the 16mm f1.4 has earned, I'd be VERY surprised if Fuji dropped the ball on f2.8 version. *fingers crossed*
I have a love-hate relationship with the 23 f/2. I swear it's not sharp at all. I have to stop it down to 3.2 or 4. I've been questioning switching over to the 1.4 23. But that 56 is GODLIKE! Great video.
I was torn between the 23mm f1.4 and 23mm f2. I eventually chose the f1.4 and boy am I glad I did. Many reviewers found the autofocus to be inferior to the f2 version, but I can confirm this not to be the case. If there is any difference, its ever so slight. The 23mm f1.4 is a REALLY good versatile lens with autofocus system more than adequate for any situation. I am VERY happy with my decision.
A most excellent review indeed and very helpful for me. I already have the 23mm f2 and will definitely look at either the 35mm f2 or possibly the 50mm f2. As a mainly landscape shooter bokeh does not often figure, but size and weight does. I feel the f2s fit better with the Fuji ethos, but I also accept that for specific applications you do need the big, heavy bokeh monsters with their low light capability. Thank you.
I own the 23mm f/1.4 and the 56mm f/1.2 and I'm doing Metal Concert Photography. Even if these both are slower they are still fast enough for this kind of photography. I would like to have a 23mm f2 for travel because of the WR but that's the only reason. If Fuji would release a Mark II version of the 23mm f1.4 with WR it would be a no brainer.
Thanks for the comparison. However, I think what Fuji is giving us is the different handling experience and bring the joy of taking pictures back. A slight difference in sharpness does not really bother me. I will still probably for the F2 lens only because of their weight
Not even through the video yet, but I'm always impressed by your ability to put out a video that's about a topic I've been curious about perfectly on time. I was debating selling my 35 f2 for the 23 f2, 23 f1.4, or 35 f1.4 to accompany the 56.
Also note that shooting wide open and up close (which is quite often for me), 23/2 is noticeably softer than 23/1.4. Same problem goes for the 23 on X100 series.
I follow your channel principally for the creativity, humor, and kindness. Having said that, this is one of the more useful and clear gear comparisons I've stumbled onto, at least for Fuji geeks. Cheers and kindness before cameras.
This is such a helpful (and timely) comparison. I’m still using my X-T1 with all 3 of the F2 lenses. As I consider the purchase of a new X-T3, I was debating whether to swap out some lenses at the same time. I think I’ll keep them all and instead ADD the 16 1.4. That kit should keep me happy for another 3 years. 😃
Denae & Andrew quick update - I splurged on a new xt3 and 16 1.4 this weekend. Wow, just wow. It does have a bit of distortion but that’s easily corrected in post. I’ve also found that it makes a great video lens. Since it’s so wide, I can smooth it out in post with a 1.25x crop and still get the footage I intended. Really happy so far with the purchase - hope it lasts as long as my xt1!
I told you, instant happiness. ;) My only gripe about the 16 1.4 and video is that it's super loud. Which is a bummer because I'd love to use it for vlogging.
Denae & Andrew true, definitely not the quietest out there but if you use an external mic, that would help dramatically. I plan on using it mostly for family stuff on vacation, which I can assure you, with my family, will be more than enough decibels to overpower any focus hunting. 🗣🗣
Andrew, Super review! Thanks for taking us back down to earth with realistic use comparisons. I was looking at the 35mm f1.4 pretty seriously. This puts it in nice perspective.
100% agree I'm running the 23mmf1.4 35mmf2 and the 56mmf1.2.... the 35mmf2 is soooo good and the bokeh sacrifice is super small. Its my favourite lens. But you need the low light performance on the other two focal lengths.
I didn't buy the 1.4 lenses for anything other than Portrait separation!. The 56mm 1.2 is worse than the 50mm in colours, chromatic aberrations & focus speed but the isolation on the 56mm that's what butters my bread!.
A thorough, informative comparison, thank you. I have the 23/35 f2's and I really enjoy using the 50mm f2 so much more than the 56mm 1.2. For me, the 50 f2 is way faster and doesn't hunt like that damn 56 does - even on the XT3. It's a shame because the 56 can definitely produce some stunning images!
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Definitely one of the most useful comparison videos I've ever seen
Indeed, a very fair and even-handed comparison. Well played.
yes! i agree 100%
Finally someone who gives pragmatic opinions, and does not just do handwaving. So many "comparison" videos end up like "Well ultimately it's up to you." I like that he actually gave a recommendation, backed up by arguments about realistic use cases.
100%
Such a high quality review without getting too obsessed with pixel peeping. Perfect
35 f2 is a swiss army, small and sharp
Picked up the 23mm f/2 and 50mm f/2 with my XT3 & 18-55. and couldn’t be happier. I’m sure more lenses will be added to the bag in time, but for now, this kit has me covered.
Does the hazy close-focus issue of the 23mmf2 bothers you? Or u don't shoot closeUp with it that much, thanks!
Nice. I don't want to contribute to GAS, but it's hard for me not to recommend you try my all time favorite lens, the 16mm 1.4. :)
What makes you choose the primes over the kit?
How much of a difference between 23mm and 50mm? I just got XT3 with kit lens. Planning to buy prime lens
@@guppytetra5979 The difference is 27 mm. You can check the field of view with your kit without any problem.
Being one or two stops slower has never been a problem for me, back in the 1970s I found that holding the camera correctly, tucking the elbows in allowed me to shoot at slower speeds and still get away with it. Some lens lend themselves optically to being near perfect at certain f stops, a casing point being the Nikkor 50mm f2 AI, what s superb lens, always enjoyed this lens more than the 1,8 or 1.4. versions , these days I still tend to shoot lens with a maximum no faster than f2, saying that I do own an xf 35 1.4, which I like, but my 23/2 gets a lot more use especially on my X-T2. Great video by the way.
23 1.4 and 56 1.2 is my current combo, love it so far!
Add the 16 1.4 and you got everything !
Depends on the lens. The 35mm f2 is better than the older one. The 23mm f1.4 is sharper than the new one and 56mm has slower AF but more bokeh. Good comparison and excellent video!!
Nailed it
I own both 35mm lenses and almost never use the f/2. It just lacks the character of the older lens, and contrary to these reviews, I don’t find it sharper at the same apertures (maybe f/2 is sharper than f/1.4). I also find it distorts more than the original. I will be selling it soon since it gets almost no use-I may pick up the Zeiss Touit 32/1.8, since I really miss that lens sometimes.
@@sidhammer9461 hi Sid. according to your opinion between 1.4 vs f2 which is best sharpness? Thanks
valerio petaccia the 35/2 is a bit sharper at f/2 than the 35/1.4 is wide open, but I find them about the same at f/2. The 1.4 has a more pleasing look to me (and is capable of shallower DOF, of course). The 1.4 is quite sharp in the middle of the frame, even wide open, but doesn’t get tack sharp corner to corner until f2.8 or maybe f/4 depending on the scene (how contrasty/sharp-edged the image is, and lighting). I also find the 35/2 has a little more contrast wide open than the 35/1.4, but that can be easily added in post. The faster focusing advantage of the 35/2 has largely been erased with the advancements of the X-T3, so my preference goes to the 35/1.4 for its extra stop of light and the beautiful rendering it has (which is subjective and hard to explain). I shoot a lot of very low light candids and portraits at festivals and on the street, so the lowlight capabilities are important for me. I’m not sure if that’s helpful, but I would agree with Andrew that if low light is important, that’s the biggest factor in deciding between the two.
I used to own the Zeiss Touit 32/1.8 and that lens was noticeably sharper than the 35/1.4 until around f4 where the Fuji pulled ahead. I may sell my 35/2 to get this lens again, because it had such wonderful “pop” wide open, and had a character I loved particularly for B&W. There’s a great comparison between these two lenses here: admiringlight.com/blog/zeiss-touit-32mm-f1-8-planar-vs-fujifilm-fujinon-xf-35mm-f1-4/
@@sidhammer9461 great answer! I'm sorry for my english;). a last consideration: if you want to buy the objective xf 23 1.4 ..... with respect to xf 23 f2? how sharpness? thanks
Some very honest testing backed up with images and easy to understand information. The f2's are my choice due to size and extra weather protection. 👍🏻's up Andrew.
Definitely helped me - I was torn between the 23mm lenses, but I think the 1.4 is what I really want, even if it takes me a little longer to save up. I was hoping to not buy one and get an x100 instead but there isn't enough eye relief for my glasses and it's so difficult to use one! Thanks again for a great video and making it much clearer what the key differences are in the real world.
I try my dangest to not be a gear junkie, but alas I'm an engineer by trade. I just want to thank you for making this so clear and helpful. The one big thing that hit me was your comparison of AF speeds. Later on in the video, you say it's a matter of milliseconds, but some of us shoot on an X-E1, and we need all the AF speed we can get! I have the 23 f/2 now and love it. I think I'm pulling the trigger on the 50 f/2 this year. I was convinced I wanted the 35 f/1.4, but now you have me thinking (and saving money). Thanks again!
I have the 23mm F 1.4 and consider it one of the best lenses I've used. Particularly like it for video work.
Having done the whole X-T1, X-T20, X-T3 journey, my perfect prime lineup is: 16mm f1.4, 23mm f1.4, 35mm f2, 56mm 1.2 (perfect portraiture), 90mm f2 WR macro. And get the discounted 18-55 lens with the purchase of a body for ultimate versatility, it is a great value lens. I don’t care for zooms with a small mirrorless system, it would however make some sense for a single camera (non full-frame) user.
This was by far one of the best comparisons between two sets I have ever seen! Very clear and non-biased, thanks!
Wow, you guys are so good at doing this. Respect, and appreciation. Not an ounce of filler anywhere!
While I was debating on choosing either the Fuji 23mm F2 or F1.4, I happened to see your video. The facts and your reasoning help me to realize which are the most important factors for my decision. Thanks for the informative video and please keep on making them to benefit photographers like me. I decided to keep some of my money, go for F2 for reasonably fast lens and forget about the minor bokeh advantage.
Same here =D
I've had the 23 f2 and the 23 1.4 for like 2 years and I absolutely prefer the image quality of the 1.4. I've never liked the way my images look out of the 23 f2, I also feel similarly about the f2 on the X100F. But if you needs something fast, light, and weather sealed the f2 is a no brainer.
Same conclusion for me!
23 1.4
35 2
56 1.2
This exactly trio prime i have, while 56 only for portrait, i'm more to 23mm shooter and the f2 sizeand WR is tempting me. My finger now one click away from ordering one literally 😅
16 1.4
23 1.4
56 1.2
35 2.0 (I miss the 35 1.4 DOF, but not speed).
The 35 f2.0 is also slow focus hunting even on XT2. :(
This is the exact trio that i have as well! The holy trinity
I have this also with the samyang 12mmf2 for astro and the 18-55 for travelling light
16 F1.4
27 F2.8 pancake
35 F2 lens I use most
In the market for 50 or 56.. leaning towards 50 for now
55-200 great zoom to have one of the few to be made in Japan
I have the 35mm f2 and 50mm f2, was thinking about “upgrading “ my 50mm to the 56mm but not anymore! Thank you, great video!
Someone else pointed out something I neglected to mention. That 50mm has a closer focus, which for me, is actually a big deal.
I second that, I had the 56, it was okay, sold it. Later I bought the 50 and IMO is sooo much better, that closer focusing is a huge deal! You should know I don't shoot portraiture, I only do nature and landscapes, so things like flowers etc, the 50 works much better for me.
Okay weird comment time: The 50mm has a lens hood that I find fantastic, simple cheap plastic, but snapping it on and off had a nearly figet spinner level of therapeutic sensation. Like a VW car key, you just have to keep pressing the button and closing the key over and over again LOL.
Haha! Darnit Michael! Wish you would have pointed BEFORE I did the video. That's a crucial bit of insight. ;)
For that close-up on wedding rings?
Im an Olympus shooter myself, but have used Fuji back when I had 2 XE-1's...I loved loved my Fuji's, but have invested a ton into my Olympus system, which I also love. Actually many systems are so good you really do have to have GAS in order to care. But to my point, I loved your review which was concise, but well rounded...provided image samples and really gave a break down to the differences and why one would care. Excellent job!
I always thought it was ridiculous when I see comments like "I liked this before I watched it"....I just did that. What can I say. I've been a fan for a long time Andrew. I know quality and informative, considered content is guaranteed. Now let me watch the video haha
haha. The instalike. I'm honored Adam. :)
Great video and very useful info.
One of my first len's was the 35mm f1.4. It was slow, noisy, and a hunter, but when it lock in, it is magic. I picked up the 35mm f2 and was surprised at the build and the Leica shape. It is quick and sharp. But I ended up keeping both as each has a unique personality, individual to each lens. Now with the X-H1, I was shooting with the 35mm f1.4 and found it has achieved new life, it is now just as fast as the f2 and the hunt has all but disappeared. The f2 remains in my travel kit due to its weather sealing and I use the X-Pro2 as a second body and it allows full use of the Optical viewfinder.
What Im hearing is that the f2's are lighter, faster, quieter, and cheaper. That's a no brainer. Great comparison video.
Not s no brainers. Ig you have any kind of talented eye for photography, and are a true artist, there ate significant differences between these lenses, and you dont have to be a pixel peeper to notice these. Also, for anyone that wants to print(and it would be dumb as hell to have a real camera and never print), the differences will abs6be noticeable. Read other reviews
Thanks for another great video! I totally agree with your findings! I owned all six lenses (simultaneously for around a year) and after much use of all the lenses I finally decided on selling the 23 f/2 (horrendously hazy close up performance btw) and 50 f/2 in spite of faster, and almost silent, AF and perhaps somewhat better “technical” sharpness - keeping 23 f/1.4, 35 f/1.4 56 f/1.2. I just love the “true to life quality” these lenses are capable of rendering. The f/2 versions (all of them) in my opinion have much more “processed” way of making images. Lastly - being such a good X-Pro2-partner for everyday shooting the 35 f/2 got to stay too!
agree! disappointed with the 23mm F2, coming from full frame 35mm prime, I didn't really get it with the Fuji 23mm F2? So I save my money and try the 23mm F1.4, hopefully I wont be disappointed with it. Using XT-3 this has breathed new life into old lenses when it comes to AF. Therefore AF on old lenses is not such an issue with the XH1 an Xt3 especially XT3.
Thank you. I have, among others, the 16 mm 1.4 and the 23 mm 2, and I never liked what I produced with the latter. Cannot tell why, but you are giving me a hint.
My 23mm f1.4 with metal hood will never be replaces by the 23mm f2 because of the extremely scientific consideration of: It looks soooo cool!! Best video on the topic btw
Great video! Speaking as a professional travel photographer for over 35 years...and being somewhat new to Fuji, I'd say size and weight were the determining factors for me. Belonging to the cult of Nikon for more than three decades, it was hard to wrap my brain around switching platforms. However, as I've gotten older and my back has gotten weaker, I decided to go mirrorless to save a little wear and tear on my body. I'm glad I did. I just wandered around the streets of India for almost six weeks with my XT-2 and F2 primes. This was my second trip to India with Fuji mirrorless, and, once again, it did not disappoint! I got amazing images and I was able to carry my small camera bag around 10-12 hours a day without any issues. Honestly, I think for the most part, only pixel peepers who spend their days "analyzing" as opposed to getting their asses out there and shooting, will be the only people who notice any significant differences between these lenses. I guess if I were a wedding photographer, I might have a different opinion, but anyone who is either a street or travel photographer should opt for the F2 versions. One other note...unless you're in a studio setting or shooting a lot in super low light, f1.2 or f1.4 are not particularly well suited for street portraiture because it's sooooo easy to be just slightly out of focus when you're on the go. Over the years, I have scrapped many potentially great images shot wide open because they were a little too soft for my taste.
I appreciate your comments and I completely agree on all counts. Where can I see your India photos? Do you have an InstaGram?
I will send you a link shortly from a different user account. I usually use this account for posting on political issues...and prefer not to have it associated with my professional work because things are too heated at the moment! LOL.
Wait. Things are heated? ;)
What prime lenses do you use?
I really like that you used the peeling paint images to display sharpness. I see so many reviewers use something without fine texture (ie textureless superhero toys) where you really can't compare sharpness properly. Nice practical honest video, and I like that you mention lens vanity, as almost all of us need to be honest with ourselves about that. Great practical information!.
Kindness before Cameras is a great slogan
I am so impressed with the 35mmf2 , that I sold the really great 16mmf1.4... hoping that the upcoming 16mmf2.8 is good replacement i am looking for. I just find myself enjoy shooting with smaller lens than the big one.
Andrew, again a nice well-balanced job with this video. Thank you. I have the 23/f2, 35/f2 and 50/f2 so-called "Fujicrons". I acquired the just released 16/f2.8 "Fujicron" this week. It's a fantastic lens, less than half the weight and much smaller than my 16/f1.4 (which I do intend to keep). I appreciate the faster focusing, QUIET focusing, and weather sealing, lighter weight and smaller bulk of all the "Fujicron" lenses. They are ideal for travel, especially when my travel is self-propelled (on foot, biking, etc.). The 50/f2, after some practice and visual readjustment has become my preferred lens for portraits (over my soon-to-be-sold 56/f1.2, bokeh be damned). Lastly, all of the smaller "Fujicrons" allow me to shoot more discretely, especially for street photography. Again, these are just my choices that meet my needs well. It seems we all have to find our way, and that's just fine. Happy shooting!
I don't often comment but just have to say, what an excellent video. Your tests are well-formulated and your arguments are thoughtful and balanced. This might be the best gear advice video I've seen.
Thank you for your kind words!
That is how a review should be done. I'm interested in switching to Fuji, because i like the new T3 and T30 bodies. Your review gave me more info about the lens selection and what I can expect than all 3 previous videos I watched combined. Keep up the good work. And in terms of the lenses themselves - all wide angle lenses I ever had, I shot a bit closed down anyway. I would buy the shorter ones in f/2 variation and the 56 in f/1.2 to get a "proper" portrait lens
Great video here. Would have been amazing to see the difference f/1.4 or f/1.2 really does in a few low light scenarios vs f/2.0... I think that's what most of us came here for, rather than sharpness and vignetting or bokeh :)
agreed
I own all 3 fast lenses and the 35/2. I rarely find myself grabbing the f/2 version, because I find the rendering in the 35/1.4 more pleasing. I also shoot in really low light a lot, so I use that extra stop a lot.
The X-T3 breathes new life into these older lenses. They are MUCH faster at acquiring focus than they are with my X-T2/X-Pro2, and also make less noise since they barely hunt anymore. It’s such a difference that it made me have no buyers remorse about my upgrade even though IQ is almost indistinguishable. I‘ve never understood all the complaints about the 23/1.4 as I’ve always found that to be the fastest focusing of the three with the least noise (almost on par with the 16/1.4), and I love the images coming out of it. I have typically heard that the 23/2 is not as sharp, which this test seems to contradict 🤷🏻♂️
Another one to consider is the Zeiss Touit 32/1.8, which rarely gets mentioned. I wish I still had that lens and might sell my 35/2 to get it-it is more contrasty than the 35/1.4 at 1.8, and sharper across the frame than either Fuji wide open. It has a beautiful character, particularly for B&W shots, and a more “vintage glass” bokeh (subjective and difficult to explain why/what I mean by that).
I have no issues with the size/weight if my fast glass and whenever I have slower lenses on I usually wish I could have that extra stop once the sun goes down or I’m in a simply lit place.
I have 18-55 kit lense that came with my XT2. I bought myself a meke 35mm f1.7 and I love manual focus
Great review, thanks! I'm a commercial portrait photographer and plan to get each of the primes you talk about (in f2). Though I have shot with the faster versions, I prefer the smaller less expensive versions.
Best comparison video I've seen for these. I've watched a few whilst considering my purchase. You nailed it! Answered all the questions I had in my mind. I'll be purchasing the 35mm f2.
For pure outright portraiture the 56mm is hard to beat, but I’ve grown to love the little 50mm for street photography and as a general purpose lens. In my experience it’s the best of the three “fujicron”s in terms of edge-to-edge sharpness and (micro) contrast.
Thank you for another great video! I've been going through the backlog of your vids, and really appreciate all the hard work you do. I miss my 23mm 1.4, but I'm having a hard time justifying a re-buy now I have the 23mm f2.
Great comparison Andrew. In fact you personally recomended me to go with 23 mm f2. I did and I am quite enjoying it. So thank you.
can't wait for that 16mm f2.8
I find the f/2 versions more "clinical" looking for portraits. I prefer the faster versions for portraits and weddings as it produces better fall off and just to me seems to create more pleasing images of people. I don't use the 35mm much so usually only carry the 23 and 56. I usually also add the 90 f/2. The nice advantage is that they all use the 62mm filter thread so I can carry a single size filter for all 3 lenses. Now when I do landscapes or am traveling, I take the f/2 versions since they are smaller and weather sealed. I don't own the 50mm since I have the 50-140 for landscapes and occasional wildlife. The nice thing there is the 23 and 35 use the 43mm filter thread so just a single filter and Lee adapter for those lenses.
Rick Louie my thoughts exactly. The 35mm f2 is an awesome lens in every way, but I just find it too clinical. The f1.4 version produces unique images I love. It’s the reason I love the 18mm f2. Despite the hate it gets online, as a wide angle portrait lens I love it
Rick Louie exactly!
Lee AFAIK don't make a 43mm filter adapter for the 100mm system (they do for the 75mm one) You can of course get stepping rings.
Thanks for the great review. I have both the 23 f1.4 and f2 versions. In use, I don't really see any issues with slow focusing on either using a X-Pro2 and that's shooting on the street. Love the clutch system on the 1.4 versio as well. I would say the subtle difference besides the honking size of the 1.4 version, is a quality of the way it renders light on surfaces in certain light subtle but there at least for me. Just IMO.
Great review and I tend to agree with almost everything you’ve covered....I’ve had all of the f/2 lenses and not too long ago I sold off my entire Fuji lens collection keeping only the 23mm f1.4 and the 56mm f1.2. Everything is personal preference and what your needs are, for me I can’t seem to take the 23mm f1.4 off of my X-T2! I love that lens! The 56mm f1.2 and the 23mm f1.4 just seems to have a special kinda mojo that I just love how both lenses render my photos!
Hi Andrew, thanks so much for a great video. I owned both the 35mm and 50mm f2 lenses and traded them for their f1.4 and f1.2 cousins. I'm pretty happy with my decision. The extra weight, noise and slight lack of speed aren't a major problem for me. I think there's something about the images these faster lenses produce which is more pleasing. Maybe just me of course...
Gary Mepsted it’s not just you ;)
The 35mm 1.4 is my favorite Fuji lens. It’s just magical!
Bought the 35 f2. It's great great. But 35 F1.4 is just special.
I have always enjoyed using my 23 f2...it stays on my X-T2 daily as my grab camera at work or in town.
Thanks for the comparisons.
Originally, I purchased the 56mm f/1.2, 23mm f/1.4, and 16mm f/1.4 lenses for low light shooting with my X-Pro1 bodies. Later, I happened to get a 23mm f/2 with a X-Pro2 body that I purchased. I had planned on selling the 23 f/2 until I tried it. I decided to keep it after I fell in love its weather resistance, smaller size, and lighter weight. I also prefer it for street shooting over my 23 f/1.4 version. Now I have two 23mm lenses.
In my opinion, the 90mm f.2 is a good alternative to the 56mm f/1.2. The separation is similar, bokehlicious both of them. But the 90mm focuses night and day faster.
Also, the longer reach can be useful for compression.
I’m considering switching to Fuji. The Xt3 with the 3 f2 primes is a strong value prop!!
Thank you I am going to stay with my 50 f2 you just saved me some money.
Thanks for another well-contextualised perspective, Special Agent Andrew. You are liberating our cognitive load so that we're free to make better decisions, and lead friendlier lives :)
For many years I lusted for the XF56mm F/1.2 (which at that time was considered fast-focussing...!), yet by the time I had the chance to extend my kit my choice was clear: XF50mm F/2 and the XF90mm F/2; they're both very swift and very sharp, and if I have the time and space for the XF90 then it has comparable bokeh capacities to the XF56 due to the extra focal length. The XF56 is very charming, yet I felt it more practical to have the compact XF50 and the exotic XF90.
Another factor for me, though, was that my first Fujinon was the XF35mm F/1.4, so I already had a low-light option with a versatile focal range. Someone with a slightly tight budget who wants a tight yet complete kit may be well-served by the XF27mm F/2.8*, the XF56mm F/1.2 and the XC50-230mm F/slow - this way they'd have range, lowlight, bokeh, and super-compact modes (swap to XF16mm F/2.8 + XF35mm F/1.4 for a wider version).
The XF35mm F/1.4 is integral to my concept of the Fuji image-making experience**. I don't think that the XF33mm F/1.0 would replace it simply because of the huge weight difference. The F/1.0 is definitely on my radar, but with a Foveon kit as well and its new place in the messianic L-Mount Alliance, I have more on my radar than I will practically be using or buying for some time... . . . . . !
* the XF27 is my most used lens, and it only cost $99 after cashback + discount.
** as is the X-Pro1 which I should really pass on to a younger photographer, but which I'm not yet ready to part with.
So good to see an actual photographer comparing this stuff. Thanks man, really, thanks. I'm about to purchase an X-T30 with the 35F2 in about 2 hours through a site similar to ebay - I hope all goes well. Thanks again. Take care. And I love the kindness before cameras motto.
For me as an amateur 50 f/2 over 56 f/1.2 and 23mm f/2 over 23mm f/1.4 considering cost and practicality.
However I chose 35mm f/1.4 over 35 f/2. they are very close in terms of size/weight and much closer in price than the other comparisons.
35mm f/1.4 is a great lens and I love the images it puts out.
AF is really fast enough for me. I couldn’t tell a difference at decent lit situations. 35mm f/2 possibly performs slightly better in low light.
On 35mm f/1.4 focusing motor is loud though. Definitely the loudest I have ever used.
I switched from Canon to Fuji and with Canon I really needed that extra step that the fast prime lenses gave me but with Fuji it's different and yes all these lenses are fantastic but the f/2 series are more than enough for me in all conditions. Thanks for a nice review!
I have all three F2 s. Very pleased with all.
So many similar videos from other bloggers are terrible but this was great - you genuinely take a position and give great reasoning without taking 1,000 yrs to do so. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thanks James.
I have a bunch of these, and the F2 versions I believe are all around better except the 56mm 1.2 is too good not to have at that length. If you're doing any sort of all purpose stuff the F2 ones are great, even for portraits. If you have the time to slowly and methodically set up shots with the 1.4 versions and can afford them they're great.
I initially got hold of the 35 f1.4 lens, and after using it for a while I got the 35mm f2 as well. The main difference I find between the 2 is that the f2 more confidently grabs focus where the f1.4 tends to hunt every time it focuses, even if it is just for a split second. The weather sealing was also a big factor in getting the 35 f2 to go with the XT2 for wedding / event work, but I still love using the 35 f1.4 for personal projects as there is a 'look' to the images that the f2 doesn't seem to give, and TBH I think it is mainly down to the softer edges when it is wide open.
and then Fujilove put out a video on the same topic!! th-cam.com/video/wG1wxGtStws/w-d-xo.html
Oh interesting. I had no idea. Kevin Mullins. Good guy.
Perfect commentary, short and to the point! I have the 56 F/1.2 and the 23 F/1.4, and happy with them, and I bought both of them used.
zallon, would you buy the 23 f/1.4 again or would you consider the f/2? Curious about the reason for your choice and what your primary motivators were and and your experience. Thanks :)
BROis I would. I shoot weddings with full frame Canon, so I’m used to subject isolation that I get with the 35 F/1.4, 50 F/1.4 and the long end of the 70-200 F/2.8. So when it comes to crop, I like to control my DOF and at 23mm the F/1.4 does a decent job. Not as good as my 35L on my 5D, but good enough for family use when traveling.
Awesome video thank you. Sticking to my 23 1.4, and there is no way i replace the 56 1.2. This lens is the main reason to go fuji. But i came here to decided which 35 to get, and the f2 it is. Thanks again
Oh and I forgot to mention! For the 23mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.2 you can get the lens cap from the 80mm f2.8 macro separately for $15 if you’re like me and hate the original lens caps but love the new Fujifilm lens cap designs. Well worth it in my opinion as the old lens caps are terrible.
Great review! I am glad that I have 23f2 35f2 and 56 f1.2. 56 mm is for portraits and it definitely better than 50mm f2 for portraiture
Great video and the fact that the 50f2 was so impressive for you is really eye opening considering you have previously stated the 56 as a must own for potrait shooters (as does everybody else). I love my 35f2 and still think the 23f1.4 would be a great compliment to it but the price differential is pretty high. At the end of the day unless one really needs the low light capabilities I think most people´s love for the faster primes is due to vanity as the big glass is definitely sexier and seeing 1. something on your lens just seems so much cooler :)
Many many thanks for a wonderfully pragmatic review of these lenses. I purchased the f2 versions of each primarily for travel. Weight, size and convenience were my deciding factors. By and large I'm extremely happy with my decision but I would say that at very very low light the the 35mm (50mm) and 50mm (80mm) do at times struggle to focus. They get there but they take some coaxing. The 23mm (35mm) however is a champion and for my recent holiday in Italy it was welded on to the X-Pro 2. In all though I'm extremely happy with my purchase but I do like the idea of a 1.2 aperture. Again many thanks for a great review of 6 outstanding lenses.
The newer f2 lenses focus so much faster and more quietly that I just don't enjoy using my f1.4 Fujis anymore. That sounds shallow, and I wish it wasn't the case, but there it is.
drive7 f/2 sounds shallow enough *troll face*
Oh man I've trying to find such a comparison for MONTHS. Thank you, great work.
I shoot both the XE 2S and the XT2 and have the 35 and 50 f/2 lenses along with the 90 and 18-55, I really am impressed with both the 35 and 50 f/2.
I did not have the same experience as you with the 23 f/2 vs the 23 f/1.4.
I found the sharpness and detail much better on the 23 f/1.4 and I’ve found my 23 f/1.4 very sharp, where I had to stop down the f/2 to get any decent sharpness at all.
Now as for the 35, the out of focus area and vignetting create a special character for the lens.
At what distance did you experience a drop of sharpness? I'm asking because I'm currently in the process of buying one of the 23mm-s
I just got my X-T3 a few days ago. The focus with the 23mm 1.4 is startlingly faster on the new camera. Still noisy though.
Best reviews on youtube for Fuji followers!! After watching your reviews on youtube i have become even more addicted to fuji lenses that i have ended up buying nearly every fuji prime lens!! I am like a kid in a toystore and i have to have them all because all fuji lenses are that GOOD!!!
Thanks Mr Bop. That's high praise. Or maybe the bar is just really low. Probably the latter. ;) I also love Fuji prime lenses.
Great review. I was doubting whether to get one of the fast lenses or two of the "slow" ones. What I just learned is that except for the bokeh (and obviously low light performance) , the f2's are ahead or equal to the faster siblings. Am I missing something?
So, two lenses it is. YEAHY!
The 50 f2 is ( mine anyway ) is one of the sharpest lenses I have - and flare control is outstanding. Amazingly small & light.
The ultimate test video, great one Andrew, I can't believe noone has made this test before. I have / have tried all of these lenses and I think you're spot on in your conclusions. Although I must say that I'm more partial to the 1.4 lenses myself, mainly due to the more "dreamy" rendering. The f2 ones are almost too "clinical". I'm especially fond of the 35 f1.4, the chattering is charmy and the rendering is dreeaaamy! Thank you for making this video, it had to be done and you made a great one, leaving no aspect uncovered!
I think you hit the nail on the head! personally, I went with the f2's because I put them in my coat pockets while i walk around/travel. In regards to the 50mm f2 what i found is because you can focus closer than the 56mm, in certain situations you can actually end up with more out of focus areas than the 56mm can provide but only in certain situations. The 50mm is also more frame filling because of its closer focusing. And as someone has mentioned the 23mm f2 at it min focus can have a milky appearance solved by stopping down. I think Fuji if they can! should release firmware to limit its closer focusing capabilities. But neither here nor there really people just need to be aware is all
That's a really good point regarding the close focus of the 50mm f2. I think that actually seals the deal for me. I think I'm going to be picking one up. Thanks for your comment!
Denae & Andrew no worries! glad my little ramble gave you some food for thought. I like to think of the 50mm f2 as mini 90mm. I look forward to seeing what pictures you take with it!
Was ready to.send back 23 f2 due to close up softness, love it now!
35mm f2 👌🏽 And I can’t wait for the 16mm f2.8
Great review. I really enjoyed how in-depth you went for each lens comparison. Personally, I own the 23mmf2 & 35mmf2 and just recently bought the 56mmf1.2. I love the first 2 lenses and would never want to get rid of them as they are my "go to" lenses for street photography.
For me, I chose the 56mm simply because I wanted a bit more reach than the 50mmf2 had to offer. As a former full frame shooter, I loved shooting at the 85mm focal length and this gives me that. I debated between the 50mm & 56mm, but the overwhelming reviews for the 56mm won me over. Is speed important to me? Absolutely, but so are all of the other factors that these lenses have to offer. In the end, the reach of the 56mm over the 50mm just put it over the edge.
You're just the best channel for fuji x users. I changed recently to fuji system and your channel is helping me a lot.
Thanks for sharing your experiences about Fuji.
Excellent comparison and timely! You're a great Fuji ambassador... hope they make you one. I love how you compare every aspect of the lens that matters to different people. I totally geek out on bokeh/isolation, so I ordered the 56 f/1.2, however unsure about the 23mm. I really want the speed/bokeh/DoF of the 1.4, but I'm going to hate it for video and run&gun. Might just get the f/2 as a daily lens. Hard to fathom an f/2 on an APS-C... UGH!! The difference in price doesn't bother me, but that slow/loud motor does. First world problems, I know! Thanks again :)
I had all the F/2 lenses and sold them all. In the process of replacing them with 1.4/1.2 versions. The 56mm F/1.2 is one of the best portrait lenses I have ever used. I just bought a 35mm F/1.4 and am waiting on it's arrival. I will pick up the 23mm F/1.4 next year.
The extra light gathering ability with these lenses is extremely important for the type of work I do. AF speed may be a bit slower and AF may be a bit noisy but light gathering is KING for me.
If you shoot in low light a ton, they are definitely the obvious choice.
Great video! To me, anything f/2.8 or faster is a fast lens, though of course the smaller the number the faster the lens. From my point of view f/2.0 (and I put f/1.9, f/1.8, and f/1.7 in the same class) is fast enough, though for a few applications a faster lens might be marginally more useful.
Man, I hope the new 16mm f2.8 has the same great close focusing and IQ as the f1.4 counterpart. Considering the reputation the 16mm f1.4 has earned, I'd be VERY surprised if Fuji dropped the ball on f2.8 version. *fingers crossed*
I have a love-hate relationship with the 23 f/2. I swear it's not sharp at all. I have to stop it down to 3.2 or 4. I've been questioning switching over to the 1.4 23. But that 56 is GODLIKE! Great video.
The 23 f2 is not sharp close up. But based on a lot of comments, I believe there is more variance in some of these lenses than I previously expected.
I’m so happy this review exists ✌️
I was torn between the 23mm f1.4 and 23mm f2. I eventually chose the f1.4 and boy am I glad I did. Many reviewers found the autofocus to be inferior to the f2 version, but I can confirm this not to be the case. If there is any difference, its ever so slight. The 23mm f1.4 is a REALLY good versatile lens with autofocus system more than adequate for any situation. I am VERY happy with my decision.
I always love how the 35/2 performs
A most excellent review indeed and very helpful for me. I already have the 23mm f2 and will definitely look at either the 35mm f2 or possibly the 50mm f2. As a mainly landscape shooter bokeh does not often figure, but size and weight does. I feel the f2s fit better with the Fuji ethos, but I also accept that for specific applications you do need the big, heavy bokeh monsters with their low light capability. Thank you.
I own the 23mm f/1.4 and the 56mm f/1.2 and I'm doing Metal Concert Photography. Even if these both are slower they are still fast enough for this kind of photography.
I would like to have a 23mm f2 for travel because of the WR but that's the only reason. If Fuji would release a Mark II version of the 23mm f1.4 with WR it would be a no brainer.
Christian Plath hello I’m considering getting the 23mm 1.4 for small venue concerts.... How does the lens perform for you? Thank you!!!
Thanks for the comparison. However, I think what Fuji is giving us is the different handling experience and bring the joy of taking pictures back. A slight difference in sharpness does not really bother me. I will still probably for the F2 lens only because of their weight
Not even through the video yet, but I'm always impressed by your ability to put out a video that's about a topic I've been curious about perfectly on time.
I was debating selling my 35 f2 for the 23 f2, 23 f1.4, or 35 f1.4 to accompany the 56.
Thanks Zach, hope it helped.
thanks for all this man. You've been the best resource for me calculating how I'm going to shift to Fuji
Also note that shooting wide open and up close (which is quite often for me), 23/2 is noticeably softer than 23/1.4. Same problem goes for the 23 on X100 series.
Yes, I definitely should have mentioned that.
I follow your channel principally for the creativity, humor, and kindness. Having said that, this is one of the more useful and clear gear comparisons I've stumbled onto, at least for Fuji geeks. Cheers and kindness before cameras.
Thanks Jim!
This is such a helpful (and timely) comparison. I’m still using my X-T1 with all 3 of the F2 lenses. As I consider the purchase of a new X-T3, I was debating whether to swap out some lenses at the same time. I think I’ll keep them all and instead ADD the 16 1.4. That kit should keep me happy for another 3 years. 😃
The 16 1.4 is like buying instant happiness. :)
Denae & Andrew quick update - I splurged on a new xt3 and 16 1.4 this weekend. Wow, just wow. It does have a bit of distortion but that’s easily corrected in post. I’ve also found that it makes a great video lens. Since it’s so wide, I can smooth it out in post with a 1.25x crop and still get the footage I intended. Really happy so far with the purchase - hope it lasts as long as my xt1!
I told you, instant happiness. ;)
My only gripe about the 16 1.4 and video is that it's super loud. Which is a bummer because I'd love to use it for vlogging.
Denae & Andrew true, definitely not the quietest out there but if you use an external mic, that would help dramatically. I plan on using it mostly for family stuff on vacation, which I can assure you, with my family, will be more than enough decibels to overpower any focus hunting. 🗣🗣
Andrew, Super review! Thanks for taking us back down to earth with realistic use comparisons. I was looking at the 35mm f1.4 pretty seriously. This puts it in nice perspective.
100% agree I'm running the 23mmf1.4 35mmf2 and the 56mmf1.2.... the 35mmf2 is soooo good and the bokeh sacrifice is super small. Its my favourite lens. But you need the low light performance on the other two focal lengths.
I didn't buy the 1.4 lenses for anything other than Portrait separation!. The 56mm 1.2 is worse than the 50mm in colours, chromatic aberrations & focus speed but the isolation on the 56mm that's what butters my bread!.
A thorough, informative comparison, thank you. I have the 23/35 f2's and I really enjoy using the 50mm f2 so much more than the 56mm 1.2. For me, the 50 f2 is way faster and doesn't hunt like that damn 56 does - even on the XT3. It's a shame because the 56 can definitely produce some stunning images!
Excellent! As usual, a concise, articulate, and informative video!