I like Samsora's, but I prefer Umeki's Daisy. He just has better movements and edgeguards. If he went for safer throw combos like Sam, He'd definitely have more success.
@@MeatYourDEMYRO what would it prove? Having a ditto doesn't show that one player is better with that one character. High placements at tournament, and noticable wins against other top players of different characters is really what determines who the better main is.
@@MeatYourDEMYRO No if you read what I said you would realize I was saying a 1v1 between the two wouldn't tell us who the better peach/daisy main is. It would just tell us who's better at the ditto. To figure out whom the better peach/daisy we would need to look out tournament placings as well as any noticable win they have pickup along the way.
Um actually Samsora went up against Umeki and won as you can tell in this video th-cam.com/video/oLgvWo7z1Ns/w-d-xo.html the time stamp is 50:56, Samsora is better no offense.
@@Sealiezm1 umm you know mirror matches don't count for shit. And i wasn't implying Umeki is better than Samsora. I actually believe Samsora is more versatile and adaptable and that's why he does better in tourneys especially in the US. Umeki is pretty one dimensionally offensive but his technical skills and combos are second to none.
@@tanmin8268 Samsora practices his own combos, plus he does different types of combos from Umeki, dont get me wrong, Umeki is a god with the combos as Peach/Daisy and better at it, but all in saying is that Samsora is probably not trying to do the moves that Umeki does.
Umeki is a little obsessed with float canceling. It looks fancy and all, but there’s times he could be punishing out of shield because he’s too busy trying to float cancel and attack every single chance he gets..
Dimadome12 Smash 4, Komo actually received backlash from the Japanese community because they felt he was not representing Japan adequately as a competitor.
The only thing that even combos is down throw into forward air, up air, or a rar back air. But it doesn’t combo at all percents. It combos to higher percent to do down throw and then double jump to hit an arial but even then you can DI and it isn’t a true combo at higher percents.
KTN you guys keep saying Di but I see pro players consistently get hit by arsene down throw into up air like ive never seen Leo down throw and not get a damn near Tru follow up with it
Pretty sure MKleo has the mu in daisy's favor and if it is bad for daisy it not by that much. Another thing to consider is that MKleo in the past had have difficulties with mu. Not saying he is bad just saying MKleo was just the better player today and his victory against this masterfull daisy player shouldn't be dampen.
@@edilynew9892 Well have you ever looked at MKleo joker mu chart. I am willing to bet he probably knows more about his own character then you plus he is the number 1 player in the world. Your argueing against him. He has a youtube channel and you can search it up.
Koen Wane yes he’s the best player playing the best character and I respect that but just cause he’s the only one that has this opinion doesn’t mean it’s true 🙄
Exagerada la ventaja que tiene el joker en el super smash. Soy mexicano y la verdad espero que ya le den un balance a ese personaje... Pero con urgencia.
@Emanuel Sánchez C. Dancing blade de marth/Lucina incompleta + up smash y f smash si dodgea hacia el otro lado, Pikachu si no haces tech Al derribarte se conecta el tilt y luego el f smash varios tienen eso no sé porque te quejas del joker
its actually awesome seeing the respect Umeki has for Leo, seeing that type of respect in the community is dope
your chivas picture just reminded me that it's awesome to have a Mexican player be the best in the world.
@@fernz_z_z903 hell yea bro ese wey es nuestro orgullo!!
@@fernz_z_z903 two of them now
5:30 gotta respecc the banana dude in the background
why should i? nothing there seems to matter.
4:42 Umeki’s reaction is gold.
Umeki clapping at the end
Good sportsmanship :)
Great sportsmanship
Fantastic Sportsmanship :)
SPECTACULAR sportsmanship :)
CSGO sportsmanship
Aww, Umeki seems like such a good guy!! GGs, really hope we see more of him- such a good sport!
9:41 UMEKI「うまい」
He said 『good』in japanese
@@おかど-r3r What is the middle letter?
日本人がいた‼️
Championare
you mean this letter? →「〜」
It is same meaning as " 〜" !
That down gun into drag down up air was insane
Timestamp?
@@inarencommander4663 4:31
I’m not a joker main but I think neutral b drag down up air down smash or up smash is pretty common for joker main though right!?
Danny Nguyen nah, it’s pretty specific usually. And I definitely was not guaranteed he just got hit out of an aerial
@@dannyn6036 no.
I like Samsora's, but I prefer Umeki's Daisy. He just has better movements and edgeguards. If he went for safer throw combos like Sam, He'd definitely have more success.
We should have Samsora battling umeki!
@@MeatYourDEMYRO what would it prove? Having a ditto doesn't show that one player is better with that one character. High placements at tournament, and noticable wins against other top players of different characters is really what determines who the better main is.
@@rafikirana2468 No no, I mean like who's the best peach mains, I dont mean like which character is the best!
@@MeatYourDEMYRO No if you read what I said you would realize I was saying a 1v1 between the two wouldn't tell us who the better peach/daisy main is. It would just tell us who's better at the ditto. To figure out whom the better peach/daisy we would need to look out tournament placings as well as any noticable win they have pickup along the way.
@@rafikirana2468 ohhhh, ok now I get what your saying, Apologies for the misunderstanding.
12:37 Men... getting back to the stage against a Daisy and still doing it incredible unpredictable
All these Japanese players are very technically sound. Saw shogun and then this.
これはイケた！って何度も思うけど最後はLeoが撃墜してる不思議
Though it was a sweep, all the matches were pretty intense
I can't get enough of Leo's Joker
ちゃんと拍手してるの素晴らしい
mkleoって2-2になっても3つ目を絶対に勝ち切る印象しかない
Samsora taking notes in the background
Um actually Samsora went up against Umeki and won as you can tell in this video th-cam.com/video/oLgvWo7z1Ns/w-d-xo.html the time stamp is 50:56, Samsora is better no offense.
@@Sealiezm1 umm you know mirror matches don't count for shit. And i wasn't implying Umeki is better than Samsora. I actually believe Samsora is more versatile and adaptable and that's why he does better in tourneys especially in the US. Umeki is pretty one dimensionally offensive but his technical skills and combos are second to none.
@@tanmin8268 Samsora practices his own combos, plus he does different types of combos from Umeki, dont get me wrong, Umeki is a god with the combos as Peach/Daisy and better at it, but all in saying is that Samsora is probably not trying to do the moves that Umeki does.
Umeki is a little obsessed with float canceling. It looks fancy and all, but there’s times he could be punishing out of shield because he’s too busy trying to float cancel and attack every single chance he gets..
Leo getting his revenge on umeki. Nice.
He has already got it at momocon
@@fatyoahi8612 literally said this in the set like wtf lol
I wanted umeki to win. Simply for no reason other than because i never see any daisy players, despite being damn near identical.
Umeki is anything but identical
Umeki is amazing! I was scared for Leo but geez, Leo is just insane.
MKleo強すぎて謎の力が働いてるように見える
最初の水飲んで待ってするうめきかわいい
These Japanese players are so humble in tournaments... I need to see a Japanese salt comp to prove that they're not androids
Dimadome12 Komorikiri vs Capt. Zack at Genesis 4
@@sotonamispams
Is that smash 4 or ultimate?
Dimadome12 Smash 4, Komo actually received backlash from the Japanese community because they felt he was not representing Japan adequately as a competitor.
@@sotonamispams captain zack is the epitome of a colossal jerk
People would think joker lost to bowser if leon beat him even once. Joker doesn't lose just cuz sora figured out what he needs to do
Umeki is looking great now! Winning against Shuton's Aegis after the reset is not easy.
How did Leo turn around so fast and grab at 6:31 ? Did u do a spot dodge cancel turnaround grab? Is that a thing
Freakin high level of play.....
Leo's Revenge for their previous set at Japan
No TL? :/
Umeki is so aggressive
やっぱleoかー
うめきさん上手くなった
11:00 I would of died 3 times as joker there lol
Hmm.. I wonder who's gonna win
Wow, how "unexpected". MkLeo won again
GGすぎるな
Umeki is so cute awwwww
I prefer umeki but for some razon the camper-agressive style of samsora is better and i dont know why :/
ren amamiya , this is a real name of JOKER.
Lol why is joker like one of the only characters with throw combos at every percent
Stop
@@yourstrulythebxy you got that ..still doesnt make sense that his throw combos work with arsene at every percent too
Unless your opponent doesn’t know how to di, then no you can’t get throw combos at every percent
The only thing that even combos is down throw into forward air, up air, or a rar back air. But it doesn’t combo at all percents. It combos to higher percent to do down throw and then double jump to hit an arial but even then you can DI and it isn’t a true combo at higher percents.
KTN you guys keep saying Di but I see pro players consistently get hit by arsene down throw into up air like ive never seen Leo down throw and not get a damn near Tru follow up with it
あんまり浮遊空N使わないんだね
デイジーは( ᐛ)浮遊空N 浮遊空Nたのちいまんかと思ってた
Redemption!
うめきさん座高高過ぎ笑う
This mu is so bad for paisy good on Umeki for making it close
Pretty sure MKleo has the mu in daisy's favor and if it is bad for daisy it not by that much. Another thing to consider is that MKleo in the past had have difficulties with mu. Not saying he is bad just saying MKleo was just the better player today and his victory against this masterfull daisy player shouldn't be dampen.
Koen Wane theres no way the mu is in paisys favor like at all lmfao
@@edilynew9892 Well have you ever looked at MKleo joker mu chart. I am willing to bet he probably knows more about his own character then you plus he is the number 1 player in the world. Your argueing against him. He has a youtube channel and you can search it up.
Koen Wane yes he’s the best player playing the best character and I respect that but just cause he’s the only one that has this opinion doesn’t mean it’s true 🙄
@@edilynew9892 well I mean your not wrong in that sense. He does have lucina as a plus 1 against greninja.
Exagerada la ventaja que tiene el joker en el super smash. Soy mexicano y la verdad espero que ya le den un balance a ese personaje... Pero con urgencia.
Sí, ¿Cómo puede conectar un combo con un ataque smash? Eso es injusto JAJAJAJ.
Uair cancel a Down Smash. :( Y nunca falla. :(
Lo único roto de Joker es Arsene y Leo baja stocks completas en segundos sin usarlo.
Al que ocupan nerfear es a Leo.
Yo no he visto a nadie que haga que Joker luzca tan roto como lo hace leo así que no creo que sea necesario
@Emanuel Sánchez C. Dancing blade de marth/Lucina incompleta + up smash y f smash si dodgea hacia el otro lado, Pikachu si no haces tech Al derribarte se conecta el tilt y luego el f smash varios tienen eso no sé porque te quejas del joker
This is bowser saying something to daisy, you can do it genger, hahaha I'm so stupid.
最後のぶっぱwwwwww
Lost becuz of daisy tbh
David c. Lost because Leo is an amazing player, not because of Daisy, she’s great.
Yea what was umeki thinking playing a low tier like daisy vs leo xD
Peach does much better against Joker, beginner mistake by Umeki
@@pizzashark7067 True. Daisy just has a overall worst moveset. Not to mention a bigger hit box. Overrated character tbh
what reference is this??
うめき猫被ってんなぁ笑
普段のウメキさんはどうなんですか？
Only the cowards wait in the recovery bar when die and umeki don't do that my respects
2 ez for mkleoooòooooooo
How exactly? The daisy player had three close games with MKleo. If you ask him he would never would of said this was an ez game.
@@rafikirana2468 I'm joking. Cant you see I put leoooooooooo.
@@alexyanez8033 So funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@@Senaru no u
@@Senaru ok😂