Conpletely agree. My Ibanez AZ makes my others axes feel like crap. Lol. I sincerely think all of my future purchases will have roadted maple necks. The feeling while playing it alone id a sell and then you factor in the look!!!!
Can confirm, Roasted maple necks (especially without a finish) are extremely hard to go back from once you play them once. They truly feel amazing. I have a custom Warmoth roasted maple neck that I got recently and it is the best neck I have ever played. Additionally, these necks are so stable that Warmoth will still let you have the full warranty if you play one without a finish (on most other necks such as maple the warranty will be void if you use it without a finish).
I bought a baked maple neck a while ago as i was sold on how they looked and the belief that they are more stable to humidity changes. When i got it the first thing i noticed was how much lighter it was in comparison to a normal neck. I had to drill the tuner holes just a little larger for my choice of tuners......and thats when the problems started.....very easy to get tear-out because the wood is very brittle as it has no moisture in it. Later on it got a little knock on the edge corner of the headstock. Would normally mean a little dent on an unroasted neck.....but on a roasted neck....a chip of the wood broke off. I wanted to change tuners so that meant trying to knock the ferrules back out.....huge chunks of wood came away with the ferrules, and that would never happen with an unroasted neck......and god knows what would happen if you were trying to do a re-fret, My advice to anybody thinking about getting a roasted neck......DONT!
Excellent advise. The Roasted maple guitar neck is a silly gimmick. If you like that color, I can show you how to get there with alcohol based dyes, that do not ruin the wood.
Agreed. I have a Squier Classic Vibe '50's Telecaster and ironically it has a flame maple neck that I constantly have to adjust every season. I'm in NJ where we have really wet periods, and really dry periods of the year. So, I might switch to a baked maple neck one day.
To my knowledge, the neck on a Classic Vibe guitar is sealed with a heavy coat of gloss polyurethane lacquer. I'm wondering: how does the moisture still get in and out of the wood?
I have a roasted swamp ash tele with a roasted maple neck. 6lbs 4oz. Super light and resonate. I really dig it. I put one coat of satin on it. It's the most beautiful guitar I have seen. When you shoot clear over roasted ash it gets almost twice as dark.
Absolutely true! I have 2 strandbergs with roasted maple. Granted they have carbon fiber lamination as well but compared to my Jackson and tele that are standard maple necks, when the weather changes I have to adjust the 2 normal maple necks but not my strandbergs. I've only adjusted them once when I first set them up. Unless you change string gauge they are extremely stable necks. Plus he is right the look and feel amazing
I just got my first guitar with a baked neck. Dylan is quite right - strictly speaking, not necessary. But, if you can handle the additional cost, so worth it. Ultra-stable, baby’s-butt-smooth, and beautiful to look at
I have a baked maple neck w/rosewood fretboard on my St. Vincent HH guitar. I really love it. I would like to see them offered on more guitars in the future.
i just looked, and the guitars i have tuning issues with all have really figured necks, i had always tried to find guitars with as much exotic looking figuring as i could find, well,,,,,,,,,, now i know better, maybe that's where the graphite strips came into play, out of the need to counter instability, hmmmm?
Got a blank headstock Roasted Maple neck from Warmoth. It feels incredible, the problem is when you need to work on it. The first tuning peg I routed snapped a 1/4 inch off the headstock. Had to glue it back together & try again. Routing my headstock design was dicey too. Just be forewarned, they’re super brittle & not machine friendly. Otherwise, it’s amazing
I think it is a fun option, looks kind of cool, but having had many guitars I understand the ideas like necks being a lot more comfortable than regular maple. Mine is great with satin finish on the back, the roasted neck I tried wasn’t really better. I started in 1999, and don’t get the complaints about having to adjust a neck so often. My guitars have never needed more than an annual set up. Even with going from hot summers to bitter winters. The internet tells us this is something we should have, that we will have to constantly fix our new guitars, and other things we should believe like having a 7.25 radius board will keep you from bending strings etc. This is worth it if you like it, but you don’t need it.
I have a Fender Stat that I bought in 1988. The maple neck plays really well and I have not had to touch that neck at all except to clean it when I change the strings
I recently got a Chapman ML3 semi hollow and that comes with a roasted maple neck. I’d never played one before and was blown away at just how great it felt. Honestly the most comfortable neck I’ve ever played. Plus with a honey burst it looks amazing. I wouldn’t say it has much in the way of a tonal impact, but I do think it resonates better. Certainly in relation to my other guitars anyway. Regardless, I fell in love with it straight away.
I wouldn’t mind having a guitar with a roasted neck, purely because they look great. Great channel, I’ve watched a few vids now. Guess I should subscribe. Keep up the great level of quality.
i have a 120$ 2014 Jackson Dinky 22 with a normal maple neck and maybe i got lucky with it. It has a super stable neck, it doesn't change it's action or go out of tune once the strings set in. I have noticed that the grain on that thing runs just straight up and down and there are no knots or breaks in the grain.
Does the roasting make the grain harder, in a sense that the fret barbs can't penetrate the end grain as easily? Reason I ask is because when I do re-frets on richlite necks, the necks will go into a back bow, unless I shave the barbs down (using the StewMac fret barber). On richlite the barbs simply do not dig into the sides of the fret slots, because of the hardness of richlite. So, I am wondering if the extra hardness of the roasted maple might lead to the same issue.
I have a Tom Anderson Angel and it has THE BEST roasted maple neck I’ve ever plaid on. If you add to that perfectly polished and round-ended stainless steel frets, you’ll get the best guitar neck imaginable.
Is the Classic Vibe Tele pine lighter than say a basswood ? I'm assuming they are thicker than the bullets which are basswood, so it might be hard to compare.
@@johnhowe4079 I think they vary a lot. I bought mine as a loaded body on eBay. I have the Allparts Fat neck which probably also weighs more than usual but altogether it's nearly a 10lb Tele! I don't really mind though and the transparent blonde finish is stunning 😎
Agree 100% on the feel. I built a tele style with a fat, baked maple neck from Warmoth. I left it raw, and it's smooth and dry, without feeling sticky.
Having built a few necks using baked/roasted/torrefied maple, I agree with Dylan, the greatest advantage is the added stability when using figured woods - to the extent that if I'm building for myself, I won't even install a trussrod, I'll just use a couple of carbon fiber reinforcing rods. 5+ years after building my first BM/CF neck, it's as straight as the day it was first installed on the guitar, and has never noticeably moved. The only disadvantage to building like this, is that you need to build in any relief needed before fretting...
Comment off topic, but have you ever picked up the higher end Tagima guitars? Just bought a T-900 and my goodness it is high quality. Solid woodwork, excellent in-house made pickups, cloth wrapped vintage style wiring, hand built in Brazil with Brazilian quality woods. I can't say enough about it. Would love to see a review on these, they deserve the exposure. They have a low end line as well made in China similar to squires , but their core line is seriously amazing.
Thanks for your videos, Dylan. I’m thinking of knocking down the fingerboard edges on a fender player strat with a roasted maple neck (clear satin urethane finish). I’m hoping to get your input….Does the roasting and finish get messed up when sanding the edge down?
I tried this at home with a cheap tele kit I got from amazon. I roasted the neck in the oven for about 2 hours at 180 - 200 centigrade. Only problems I had was the fret ends sprouted but they didn't come loose or anything and I planned on leveling them anyway. Also the headstock turned a much darker brown than the rest of the neck, probably because of limited space in the oven, the headstock was getting the full blast of heat from the convection fan. I was able to sand it back to lighten the shade and make it more even. It still looks better than the raw white colour of maple and after applying boiled linseed oil it for a satin finish it doesn't look to bad. It's darkened the maple and given it an aged tobacco look.
I just put a roasted maple neck from Warmoth on my seafoam green Tele. It is absolutely gorgeous and it feels very smooth. It is light and responsive. Would I change out a perfectly good neck just to get roasted maple? Nope. I replaced my original Tele neck because it was less than great and I wanted to change to a rosewood fingerboard, so I made the neck wood roasted maple while I was at it. I totally think it's worth it. I have a unique perspective on this because I'm an acoustic player and just getting into electrics. My main acoustic is a Martin D28 1937 Authentic, and it has a "torrefied" (baked) Adirondack spruce top. The heating process TOTALLY makes a difference in terms of tone and stability on that guitar, so I was already convinced of the advantages of torrefaction, which is the technical term for baking wood. Thanks for the great video!
Hey Dylan thanks a lot, as you know I am one of your channel fans, thanks to you and to your lovely wife for all the hard work and hope you are both well and safe. May I know what is your input regarding screw inserts in the guitar neck is it worth it? And if it is why fender still over the last 70 years maybe still just using just screws only without inserts at the heel of the neck and what about stability, tone...etc much appreciated thanks in advance regards from ENGLAND UK 👍
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man, a house with two kitchens is just amazing, one for you and the other for your wife, right?
I recently bought a Music Man Cutlass, which has a roasted neck. I had never touched one before, and I made the decision to buy immediately. I’m thrilled with the roasted neck. However, when you pick up a regular maple strat or tele, it just may be a letdown.
Any experience with aftermarket fender necks? I’m looking for an ebony board like on the Jim root jazzy. GFS has some decent looking dark rosewood fun under a hondo but I’m a little gun-shy and haven’t used one of their kits yet.
I have a baked flame maple baritone strat neck with rosewood board on its way from Warmoth. Im pretty excited to see how it comes out. I found it interesting that at Warmoth baked maple with no finish was cheaper than plain maple with either a gloss or satin finish.
I have a Fender power caster with a roasted maple neck and it's my favorite neck of all 4 of my guitars. Just feels exactly like you described. I think it also "feels" good too because its kinda different from a "boring" non-roasted maple neck. A little darker color, maybe it just feels edgier.
Thumbs up from Geelong Australia I just got myself a roasted maple fender neck satin finish on the back and gloss on the front and headstock it will be going on my pink Paisley I hope it looks nice 😅🇭🇲👍
in terms of stability wouldn't quartersawn maple be just as solid? also could you potentially do a different fretboard wood on a baked maple neck or would that defeat the purpose?
i think quartersawn is much more expensive. another thing, you can have defected wood like birds eye thats not good for necks because of its instability, and have that roasted, and have a good looking stable birds eye neck
Hi Dylan - I'm thinking of purchasing a roasted maple neck with a rosewood board from Musikraft - will have to finish this neck at all or will it be fine raw? Thanks!
According to Schecter this is very relative and depends of the maple wood, some regular maple necks can be as strong and resistant to weather changes than some roasted maple necks and they say is mainly cosmetic by most part
It’s 100% cosmetic. They feel the same as any satin maple neck. I like laminated and painted necks. I like the feel of the lacquer in my hands and it also protects the wood from the environment so my guitars don’t have neck issues.
Good advice. From my experience, if you live in high (summer) to low (winter) humidity environment, get roasted maple neck (with or without other-wooded fretboard).
I make and play my own guitars and I have roasted maple necks on 3 of them. They feel great and look great. I do not have any finish on any of them. I have not adjusted any of them after the first setup. I check them every time I change strings. Very smooth. I have 3 more guitars I am making that have the roasted maple necks ready to go.
I've been thinking about getting one. my Les Paul has been flawless And I live in New England where we can have 100% humidity in the summer and below 0 temperatures in the Winter and everything in between, I've had to do nothing to the neck so far. But I would love a roasted Maple neck stainless steel frets on a tele
Same shit here in west central Wisconsin as weather extremes go.... My 1999 Standard Fender Telecaster has spent MANY hours in the sun and in several heavy smoke environments. It is without a doubt a form of a "baked" maple neck and holds tune REALLY well.....
Feels great, looks even better, but frankly if you want a stable neck, dual-graphite bars on either side of truss rod have worked for me for over 30 yrs.
I just put a replacement Fender MIM roasted maple on my Strat. I haven’t spent a ton of time on it, but I can already tell that Im going to want to spend a lot more.
Hi,Dylan..Some cheaper guitars (even new aria pro II and Schecter MII Nick J )also provide baked-maple neck nowadays...are they as good as the higher-end guitars? Thanks
I have 3 Suhrs - 2 with regular Maple and 1 with baked. The baked DOES feel different - smoother. I can't hear any tonal difference but it is more enjoyable, for me anyway, to play.
Been planning a personal version build of a George Lynch Sunburst Tiger (as I don't like how the original feels), finally pulled the trigger on a roasted flame reverse banana headstock neck from MK, will get it in 3 weeks, can't wait :). Have a collection of MIJ Charvel and Jackson from 86-96 that I love (fabulous necks), have 6 builds on the drawing board, a couple with MIJ classic Jackson necks, had to have at least one axe with a roasted neck out of the 22 guitars...
I had a guitar built a few months ago and opted for a roasted maple neck and it feels and looks soooo good. I'm definitely glad I put the extra cash towards it. The stability is the cake and the looks and feel are the icing. Love it!
I think now because of wood quality we need stuff like baked maple. Wood is almost always kilm dried( fast as it can be). But if you have a 4-5 year old guitar the neck has pretty much done all its gonna especially if its painted or has a finish on it and even more so if its plywood ( 4-5 pieces).
I haven't tried one yet, but regular Maple necks (as well as fretboards) are easily my favorite to play, so I guess I'm going to ask, how much of a difference is there in playability?
Fender tried to pass off two "half baked" maple American Standard Strat necks to me in 2013 during one of their '$100 Rebate w/flight case upgrade' promos. Sent two back before I got on that wasn't warped and buzzing.
I baked a neck in my wife's oven but it was to change the neck bow;) and Gibson started using baked maple instead of rosewood, I have it on my Flying V and it is fantastic, yes I would pay extra for it.
I am going to order a warmoth roasted flame maple neck and am considering putting either a Paul Ferro or Rosewood fretboard on it. My concern about going all roasted maple is that it might be too bright and ringing as well as being brittle. What are your recommendations?
I have a good collection of guitars and I'm always picking up and playing interesting looking guitars. I only have one with a baked or roasted maple neck, it's a Reverend and yes it happen to be one of my favourites but not really because of the neck. A Made in Japan Fender Strat Boxer guitar I have has a maple neck that I really love too. I had to really check it out to be sure it was wood as there virtually no grain showing and it has an ebony fret board, it's the best playing and feeling.
i love that roasted maple fretboard. i still can't decide if i should get a Sire bass V3 (with pre-amp, rosewood fret) or a V5 (without pre-amp, roasted maple fret) :(
Dylan - apples-to-apples, would a baked maple neck weigh less than a regular maple neck? Also, given how much the overall composite tone of a guitar is dependent on the neck, what are the tonal differences , again, apple-to-apples, of a baked maple vs a regular maple neck?
I would say negligible on both counts. Tonally, it makes no real difference. Tonewood guys will argue all day long, but it just doesn't matter. The weight is not really different either. the thing is, you would need to weigh the samr peice before and after to really know. Every neck weighs a bit different
I hear very little difference if any at all in BM compared to regular. However, I prefer a BM neck for the feel and of course the look. But the feel is way better for me. As a matter of fact, I am having one made at this time by a luthier here in Nashville, Rocco Guitars.
I have an Ebony over roasted maple Warmoth neck with stainless steel frets. I'll never go back to a finished necks or nickel frets.In addition you can hand sand the raw roasted maple with super fine grain paper and "burnish" the wood so it feels even more slick and fast .
I have 4 guitars with warmoth roasted maple necks. They're absolutely fantastic and they don't require a finish for warranty so they end up costing less.
Played my buddies jazz bass with a roasted maple, felt awesome. Ordered one for my p bass, but not purely because I wanted a roasted maple, but because I want a jazz bass neck on my p bass. So I would agree that it's not worth buying a direct replacement neck just to get it in roasted maple, but if you're looking for a new neck anyway, its definitely worth the consideration.
I really don't see the point of different woods in fretboards since the fingers don't really touch the wood much. Usually if the finger is touching the wood your note goes sharp. Now I guess there could be a minute tone difference from different woods and the way they transfer vibration, but I don't really think it is noticeable. I have both a maple (Strat), and a baked maple (SG), and have had rosewood on a Strat in the past, it just seems like the fret quality has more to do with the feel of the neck.
I bought a cheap Squier PJ bass a couple years ago that I fully intended to use as my "experimental" guitar. I'm new to bass anyways, so if I fuck it up. Ah, so be it. So far I've swapped the pickups, put a high mass bridge on it. I just ordered a roasted maple neck for it. And I'll be honest. I mainly did it for the looks. But I'm hearing a lot that they feel great. Good to know that they're stable. Yes, it was expensive... But... It doesn't really bother me, because the bass was cheap to begin with. I appreciate how transparent your videos are. Helps me make decisions about what to do, and what to avoid. Thanks man.
I have a roasted maple neck on my Charvel DK 24, and it’s the first electric that I’ve never been able to sell lol I can’t say enough good things about the guitar, but the roasted maple neck is genuinely amazing. Like literally, they feel amazing.
Awesome video! I just have a question, I have a maple neck guitar. It feels really nice and rigid. Totally worth it. My concern is, how can I clean roasted maple neck to get rid of some dirt due to sweat. Can I use lem oil? Thank you and keep making some nice videos.
Torrefied maple was standard on my Strandberg Boden 6, and I'm building a EVH Wolfgang with a Standard neck on a Special body with Special electroncis. They do feel very nice, and look pretty sharp. I may be having a roasted maple Peavey Wolfgang neck made (3rd party) for a vintage unfinished US made HP Special body I managed to come across. Roasted Maple and Stainless frets seems like a hard combo to beat.
The neck on my Squire strat got twisted so I went on the hunt for a neck, I was going to get a Mity Mite but was looking around and ended up on Solo guitars and found a Fender (Mexican) roasted maple that would have been $299. but they had a scratch and dent and I got it for 1/2 off. After getting it on it feels awesome but I still have to do a little work on it, the nut was a little high and I need to level the frets a smidge. I am going to wait for the strings to die before I work on it, I don't want to try the nut on fresh glue.
I don't think I'll be replacing any of my guitar necks with roasted maple, but if I buy ir build a custom guitar, that'll be the first thing on the list! I think they look awesome and are worth the extra money for that really special guitar!👍😎🎸🎶
A guitar with a caramelized neck will surely be good for some great licks
Don't get a splinter in your tongue.
Dat sweet sweet tone
@Ej Teacher Steve Cropper prefers green onions.
Nice!
i did lick it on my channel!
I’ve played my guitar while I was pretty baked. Does that count?
That totally counts. 👍
In the 70s playing "baked" was mandatory, the way I recall it ....
Eric Wilson All my early guitar heroes WERE players from the 70’s, so in the 80’s I paid plenty of homage to them. Playing wise AND otherwise. 😂👍🏻😎
did it "feel so good"?
It adds more reverb to the tone
Roasted necks tend to be a little more brittle so use extra caution when putting in screws/tuners. The wood cracks sooner than non roasted maple.
Having tasted Roasted Maple + Stainless Steel frets... It's hard to go back...
so freaking true.
That’s exactly why I gotta build one already or just buy that Harley Benton fusion T 😛
Kyle J. Rhines or the harley benton agufish sig, i ordered it yesterday :)
Just ordered a roasted maple neck with jumbo stainless frets. Can’t wait
Conpletely agree. My Ibanez AZ makes my others axes feel like crap. Lol. I sincerely think all of my future purchases will have roadted maple necks. The feeling while playing it alone id a sell and then you factor in the look!!!!
Can confirm, Roasted maple necks (especially without a finish) are extremely hard to go back from once you play them once. They truly feel amazing. I have a custom Warmoth roasted maple neck that I got recently and it is the best neck I have ever played. Additionally, these necks are so stable that Warmoth will still let you have the full warranty if you play one without a finish (on most other necks such as maple the warranty will be void if you use it without a finish).
Pre-ordered a new Squier Contemporary Telecaster RH a few days ago. They ship from the factory with roasted maple necks.
They are nice. Squier has come along way.
how do you like it?
I have a roasted neck and the resonance in these is way higher than a regular maple neck. I think they are great.
Well worth the money in my opinion. Plus when you put clear over it, the neck darkens and brings out the grain so nicely
I bought a baked maple neck a while ago as i was sold on how they looked and the belief that they are more stable to humidity changes. When i got it the first thing i noticed was how much lighter it was in comparison to a normal neck. I had to drill the tuner holes just a little larger for my choice of tuners......and thats when the problems started.....very easy to get tear-out because the wood is very brittle as it has no moisture in it. Later on it got a little knock on the edge corner of the headstock. Would normally mean a little dent on an unroasted neck.....but on a roasted neck....a chip of the wood broke off. I wanted to change tuners so that meant trying to knock the ferrules back out.....huge chunks of wood came away with the ferrules, and that would never happen with an unroasted neck......and god knows what would happen if you were trying to do a re-fret, My advice to anybody thinking about getting a roasted neck......DONT!
Excellent advise. The Roasted maple guitar neck is a silly gimmick. If you like that color, I can show you how to get there with alcohol based dyes, that do not ruin the wood.
Agreed. I have a Squier Classic Vibe '50's Telecaster and ironically it has a flame maple neck that I constantly have to adjust every season. I'm in NJ where we have really wet periods, and really dry periods of the year. So, I might switch to a baked maple neck one day.
To my knowledge, the neck on a Classic Vibe guitar is sealed with a heavy coat of gloss polyurethane lacquer. I'm wondering: how does the moisture still get in and out of the wood?
I have a roasted swamp ash tele with a roasted maple neck. 6lbs 4oz. Super light and resonate. I really dig it. I put one coat of satin on it. It's the most beautiful guitar I have seen. When you shoot clear over roasted ash it gets almost twice as dark.
Gregory Stone: that's quite light; what brand and model is your tele? Thanks.
Same question what guitar is it? I love light weight guitar.
The color gets twice as dark or the tone?
Adam Jarrett The color.
LOve to see a pic of that ash Tele front and back. it gives me some ideas for my next guitar.
Absolutely true! I have 2 strandbergs with roasted maple. Granted they have carbon fiber lamination as well but compared to my Jackson and tele that are standard maple necks, when the weather changes I have to adjust the 2 normal maple necks but not my strandbergs. I've only adjusted them once when I first set them up. Unless you change string gauge they are extremely stable necks. Plus he is right the look and feel amazing
I put a roasted Fender neck on my Fender Tele yesterday, and I regret having waited so long to do so. Love it.
I just got my first guitar with a baked neck. Dylan is quite right - strictly speaking, not necessary. But, if you can handle the additional cost, so worth it. Ultra-stable, baby’s-butt-smooth, and beautiful to look at
Another review for me. I love the roasted maple neck on my Revered. Feels great and looks good. 7 years later still like new.
Thanks Dylan.
Got my first roasted maple neck last year, it’s incredible, feels amazing...., never going back to regular maple.
I have a baked maple neck w/rosewood fretboard on my St. Vincent HH guitar. I really love it.
I would like to see them offered on more guitars in the future.
at last someone admits to the instability of figured grain necks! I love roasted maple for necks! yup the feel is superior!
i just looked, and the guitars i have tuning issues with all have really figured necks, i had always tried to find guitars with as much exotic looking figuring as i could find, well,,,,,,,,,, now i know better, maybe that's where the graphite strips came into play, out of the need to counter instability, hmmmm?
@ Guitar works. Roasted maple is figured grain haha. It feels no better than a satin rolled neck.
I enjoy mine. Less work involved, has that natural satin finish I love. Is a must have for me. Plus I don’t worry about it twisting when I travel.
I have a Suhr with Baked Maple neck and Baked Alder body. SO good. The guitar is super loud, super stable, and plays like a dream.
Got a blank headstock Roasted Maple neck from Warmoth. It feels incredible, the problem is when you need to work on it. The first tuning peg I routed snapped a 1/4 inch off the headstock. Had to glue it back together & try again. Routing my headstock design was dicey too. Just be forewarned, they’re super brittle & not machine friendly. Otherwise, it’s amazing
I think it is a fun option, looks kind of cool, but having had many guitars I understand the ideas like necks being a lot more comfortable than regular maple. Mine is great with satin finish on the back, the roasted neck I tried wasn’t really better. I started in 1999, and don’t get the complaints about having to adjust a neck so often. My guitars have never needed more than an annual set up. Even with going from hot summers to bitter winters. The internet tells us this is something we should have, that we will have to constantly fix our new guitars, and other things we should believe like having a 7.25 radius board will keep you from bending strings etc. This is worth it if you like it, but you don’t need it.
I have a Fender Stat that I bought in 1988. The maple neck plays really well and I have not had to touch that neck at all except to clean it when I change the strings
I've found when getting a custom neck made, it's usually cheaper to get it roasted than lacquered, and they feel great and are more stable.
I recently got a Chapman ML3 semi hollow and that comes with a roasted maple neck. I’d never played one before and was blown away at just how great it felt. Honestly the most comfortable neck I’ve ever played. Plus with a honey burst it looks amazing. I wouldn’t say it has much in the way of a tonal impact, but I do think it resonates better. Certainly in relation to my other guitars anyway. Regardless, I fell in love with it straight away.
Thanks brother, for doing these vids, great, straight-forward info we guitar geeks all appreciate
I wouldn’t mind having a guitar with a roasted neck, purely because they look great. Great channel, I’ve watched a few vids now. Guess I should subscribe. Keep up the great level of quality.
i have a 120$ 2014 Jackson Dinky 22 with a normal maple neck and maybe i got lucky with it. It has a super stable neck, it doesn't change it's action or go out of tune once the strings set in. I have noticed that the grain on that thing runs just straight up and down and there are no knots or breaks in the grain.
Does the roasting make the grain harder, in a sense that the fret barbs can't penetrate the end grain as easily? Reason I ask is because when I do re-frets on richlite necks, the necks will go into a back bow, unless I shave the barbs down (using the StewMac fret barber). On richlite the barbs simply do not dig into the sides of the fret slots, because of the hardness of richlite. So, I am wondering if the extra hardness of the roasted maple might lead to the same issue.
I have a Tom Anderson Angel and it has THE BEST roasted maple neck I’ve ever plaid on. If you add to that perfectly polished and round-ended stainless steel frets, you’ll get the best guitar neck imaginable.
Gimmick or no, it's freakin beautiful wood 😍
Right on
Club Soda Eh...I’m sure they would have had it been available. Why not use technology and advances in guitar building to your advantage?
I just tried a Sterling by Music Man Ray34 with roasted maple and I love it. It felt so good! I don't need a new bass but I want it
I put a partscaster Tele together with a Classic Vibe body and an Allparts Roasted Maple Fat neck. I burnished it instead of a finish. It's AMAZING!
Is the Classic Vibe Tele pine lighter than say a basswood ? I'm assuming they are thicker than the bullets which are basswood, so it might be hard to compare.
@@johnhowe4079
I think they vary a lot. I bought mine as a loaded body on eBay. I have the Allparts Fat neck which probably also weighs more than usual but altogether it's nearly a 10lb Tele! I don't really mind though and the transparent blonde finish is stunning 😎
Agree 100% on the feel. I built a tele style with a fat, baked maple neck from Warmoth. I left it raw, and it's smooth and dry, without feeling sticky.
Having built a few necks using baked/roasted/torrefied maple, I agree with Dylan, the greatest advantage is the added stability when using figured woods - to the extent that if I'm building for myself, I won't even install a trussrod, I'll just use a couple of carbon fiber reinforcing rods. 5+ years after building my first BM/CF neck, it's as straight as the day it was first installed on the guitar, and has never noticeably moved. The only disadvantage to building like this, is that you need to build in any relief needed before fretting...
Comment off topic, but have you ever picked up the higher end Tagima guitars? Just bought a T-900 and my goodness it is high quality. Solid woodwork, excellent in-house made pickups, cloth wrapped vintage style wiring, hand built in Brazil with Brazilian quality woods. I can't say enough about it. Would love to see a review on these, they deserve the exposure. They have a low end line as well made in China similar to squires , but their core line is seriously amazing.
I recently bought a headless guitar with a roasted maple neck. I love it its really stable and smooth, also its my most resonant guitar !
Thanks for your videos, Dylan. I’m thinking of knocking down the fingerboard edges on a fender player strat with a roasted maple neck (clear satin urethane finish). I’m hoping to get your input….Does the roasting and finish get messed up when sanding the edge down?
I tried this at home with a cheap tele kit I got from amazon. I roasted the neck in the oven for about 2 hours at 180 - 200 centigrade. Only problems I had was the fret ends sprouted but they didn't come loose or anything and I planned on leveling them anyway. Also the headstock turned a much darker brown than the rest of the neck, probably because of limited space in the oven, the headstock was getting the full blast of heat from the convection fan. I was able to sand it back to lighten the shade and make it more even. It still looks better than the raw white colour of maple and after applying boiled linseed oil it for a satin finish it doesn't look to bad. It's darkened the maple and given it an aged tobacco look.
I just put a roasted maple neck from Warmoth on my seafoam green Tele. It is absolutely gorgeous and it feels very smooth. It is light and responsive. Would I change out a perfectly good neck just to get roasted maple? Nope. I replaced my original Tele neck because it was less than great and I wanted to change to a rosewood fingerboard, so I made the neck wood roasted maple while I was at it. I totally think it's worth it. I have a unique perspective on this because I'm an acoustic player and just getting into electrics. My main acoustic is a Martin D28 1937 Authentic, and it has a "torrefied" (baked) Adirondack spruce top. The heating process TOTALLY makes a difference in terms of tone and stability on that guitar, so I was already convinced of the advantages of torrefaction, which is the technical term for baking wood. Thanks for the great video!
Hey Dylan thanks a lot, as you know I am one of your channel fans, thanks to you and to your lovely wife for all the hard work and hope you are both well and safe. May I know what is your input regarding screw inserts in the guitar neck is it worth it? And if it is why fender still over the last 70 years maybe still just using just screws only without inserts at the heel of the neck and what about stability, tone...etc much appreciated thanks in advance regards from ENGLAND UK 👍
man, a house with two kitchens is just amazing, one for you and the other for your wife, right?
Hahaha love this comment!
Yes, but his kitchen does not have an oven in it apparently... pretty sure it has the big ass fridge filled up with beers instead.
I recently bought a Music Man Cutlass, which has a roasted neck. I had never touched one before, and I made the decision to buy immediately. I’m thrilled with the roasted neck. However, when you pick up a regular maple strat or tele, it just may be a letdown.
Loved the one I put on my strat enough that I ordered another one for my Esquire.
Any experience with aftermarket fender necks? I’m looking for an ebony board like on the Jim root jazzy. GFS has some decent looking dark rosewood fun under a hondo but I’m a little gun-shy and haven’t used one of their kits yet.
I have a baked flame maple baritone strat neck with rosewood board on its way from Warmoth. Im pretty excited to see how it comes out.
I found it interesting that at Warmoth baked maple with no finish was cheaper than plain maple with either a gloss or satin finish.
You're talking about baked necks, but the caption says Roasted. What's the difference between the 2 outside of 50 degrees'?
I have a Fender power caster with a roasted maple neck and it's my favorite neck of all 4 of my guitars. Just feels exactly like you described. I think it also "feels" good too because its kinda different from a "boring" non-roasted maple neck. A little darker color, maybe it just feels edgier.
Thumbs up from Geelong Australia
I just got myself a roasted maple fender neck satin finish on the back and gloss on the front and headstock it will be going on my pink Paisley I hope it looks nice 😅🇭🇲👍
I have a maple baseball bat neck with polyurethain finish. It wont bend eaven with 11 to 52's.I love my Ibanez Cimar Strat.
in terms of stability wouldn't quartersawn maple be just as solid?
also could you potentially do a different fretboard wood on a baked maple neck or would that defeat the purpose?
i think quartersawn is much more expensive. another thing, you can have defected wood like birds eye thats not good for necks because of its instability, and have that roasted, and have a good looking stable birds eye neck
I have an Allparts vintage C roasted maple neck on my first build and it's by far my favorite neck I've ever touched, and for only $240.
I've just recently had one installed on a Fender body, LOVE IT!!
Hi Dylan - I'm thinking of purchasing a roasted maple neck with a rosewood board from Musikraft - will have to finish this neck at all or will it be fine raw? Thanks!
Hey Dylan, Can you send me that black Tele with the Bigsby? Thanks!
According to Schecter this is very relative and depends of the maple wood, some regular maple necks can be as strong and resistant to weather changes than some roasted maple necks and they say is mainly cosmetic by most part
It’s 100% cosmetic. They feel the same as any satin maple neck. I like laminated and painted necks. I like the feel of the lacquer in my hands and it also protects the wood from the environment so my guitars don’t have neck issues.
Good advice.
From my experience, if you live in high (summer) to low (winter) humidity environment, get roasted maple neck (with or without other-wooded fretboard).
I make and play my own guitars and I have roasted maple necks on 3 of them. They feel great and look great. I do not have any finish on any of them. I have not adjusted any of them after the first setup. I check them every time I change strings. Very smooth.
I have 3 more guitars I am making that have the roasted maple necks ready to go.
Really love that telecaster, looks amazing!!
I've been thinking about getting one. my Les Paul has been flawless And I live in New England where we can have 100% humidity in the summer and below 0 temperatures in the Winter and everything in between, I've had to do nothing to the neck so far. But I would love a roasted Maple neck stainless steel frets on a tele
Same shit here in west central Wisconsin as weather extremes go.... My 1999 Standard Fender Telecaster has spent MANY hours in the sun and in several heavy smoke environments. It is without a doubt a form of a "baked" maple neck and holds tune REALLY well.....
Feels great, looks even better, but frankly if you want a stable neck, dual-graphite bars on either side of truss rod have worked for me for over 30 yrs.
Dylan thanks for putting this one out again. Your content & presentation is always in point. You are easy to listen to, AND you make good sense.
I just put a replacement Fender MIM roasted maple on my Strat. I haven’t spent a ton of time on it, but I can already tell that Im going to want to spend a lot more.
Hi,Dylan..Some cheaper guitars (even new aria pro II and Schecter MII Nick J )also provide baked-maple neck nowadays...are they as good as the higher-end guitars? Thanks
Good show. Imma try one on my upcoming Tele build. Thanks
Just got a reverend buckshot with a roasted maple neck and it does feel awesome! Have you heard of these guitars? What’s your opinion of them?
I have 3 Suhrs - 2 with regular Maple and 1 with baked. The baked DOES feel different - smoother. I can't hear any tonal difference but it is more enjoyable, for me anyway, to play.
So there is no finish on your necks? Roasted or not - the neck wont feel different with a clear coat.
Been planning a personal version build of a George Lynch Sunburst Tiger (as I don't like how the original feels), finally pulled the trigger on a roasted flame reverse banana headstock neck from MK, will get it in 3 weeks, can't wait :). Have a collection of MIJ Charvel and Jackson from 86-96 that I love (fabulous necks), have 6 builds on the drawing board, a couple with MIJ classic Jackson necks, had to have at least one axe with a roasted neck out of the 22 guitars...
sounds awesome! let us know if we can help with parts or pickups
I had a guitar built a few months ago and opted for a roasted maple neck and it feels and looks soooo good. I'm definitely glad I put the extra cash towards it. The stability is the cake and the looks and feel are the icing. Love it!
I am thinking about getting a guitar neck for the Telecaster that I am working on. Thank you for this vedio.
I think now because of wood quality we need stuff like baked maple. Wood is almost always kilm dried( fast as it can be). But if you have a 4-5 year old guitar the neck has pretty much done all its gonna especially if its painted or has a finish on it and even more so if its plywood ( 4-5 pieces).
I haven't tried one yet, but regular Maple necks (as well as fretboards) are easily my favorite to play, so I guess I'm going to ask, how much of a difference is there in playability?
Fender tried to pass off two "half baked" maple American Standard Strat necks to me in 2013 during one of their '$100 Rebate w/flight case upgrade' promos. Sent two back before I got on that wasn't warped and buzzing.
yeah, I have been skeptical. Seemed like genius marketing of fast dried timber. but as you say, seems to be good stuff
I baked a neck in my wife's oven but it was to change the neck bow;) and Gibson started using baked maple instead of rosewood, I have it on my Flying V and it is fantastic, yes I would pay extra for it.
I’m planning on ordering a baked maple neck with a rosewood board from Warmoth. Should I get it finished?
I am going to order a warmoth roasted flame maple neck and am considering putting either a Paul Ferro or Rosewood fretboard on it. My concern about going all roasted maple is that it might be too bright and ringing as well as being brittle. What are your recommendations?
Won’t make any difference.
I compared a baked maple neck and was surprised how light it was. And when I tapped it, it sounded more resonant.
I have a good collection of guitars and I'm always picking up and playing interesting looking guitars. I only have one with a baked or roasted maple neck, it's a Reverend and yes it happen to be one of my favourites but not really because of the neck. A Made in Japan Fender Strat Boxer guitar I have has a maple neck that I really love too. I had to really check it out to be sure it was wood as there virtually no grain showing and it has an ebony fret board, it's the best playing and feeling.
i love that roasted maple fretboard. i still can't decide if i should get a Sire bass V3 (with pre-amp, rosewood fret) or a V5 (without pre-amp, roasted maple fret) :(
Roasted maple is the best thing ever for necks I have one on my Telecaster I built. The best looking and playing neck I have ever seen and played!
Dylan - apples-to-apples, would a baked maple neck weigh less than a regular maple neck? Also, given how much the overall composite tone of a guitar is dependent on the neck, what are the tonal differences , again, apple-to-apples, of a baked maple vs a regular maple neck?
I would say negligible on both counts. Tonally, it makes no real difference. Tonewood guys will argue all day long, but it just doesn't matter. The weight is not really different either. the thing is, you would need to weigh the samr peice before and after to really know. Every neck weighs a bit different
I hear very little difference if any at all in BM compared to regular. However, I prefer a BM neck for the feel and of course the look. But the feel is way better for me. As a matter of fact, I am having one made at this time by a luthier here in Nashville, Rocco Guitars.
I have a war moth roasted maple neck on my fender koa strat... they look incredible and the tone is very good
I have an Ebony over roasted maple Warmoth neck with stainless steel frets. I'll never go back to a finished necks or nickel frets.In addition you can hand sand the raw roasted maple with super fine grain paper and "burnish" the wood so it feels even more slick and fast .
I have two Warmoth necks that are roasted maple, and I absolutely love them.
I have 4 guitars with warmoth roasted maple necks. They're absolutely fantastic and they don't require a finish for warranty so they end up costing less.
I picked p an Ibanez Prestige AZ 2204 (HSS) about 6 months ago, love the neck.
Played my buddies jazz bass with a roasted maple, felt awesome. Ordered one for my p bass, but not purely because I wanted a roasted maple, but because I want a jazz bass neck on my p bass. So I would agree that it's not worth buying a direct replacement neck just to get it in roasted maple, but if you're looking for a new neck anyway, its definitely worth the consideration.
I really don't see the point of different woods in fretboards since the fingers don't really touch the wood much. Usually if the finger is touching the wood your note goes sharp. Now I guess there could be a minute tone difference from different woods and the way they transfer vibration, but I don't really think it is noticeable. I have both a maple (Strat), and a baked maple (SG), and have had rosewood on a Strat in the past, it just seems like the fret quality has more to do with the feel of the neck.
I bought a cheap Squier PJ bass a couple years ago that I fully intended to use as my "experimental" guitar. I'm new to bass anyways, so if I fuck it up. Ah, so be it. So far I've swapped the pickups, put a high mass bridge on it.
I just ordered a roasted maple neck for it. And I'll be honest. I mainly did it for the looks. But I'm hearing a lot that they feel great. Good to know that they're stable.
Yes, it was expensive... But... It doesn't really bother me, because the bass was cheap to begin with.
I appreciate how transparent your videos are. Helps me make decisions about what to do, and what to avoid. Thanks man.
I have a roasted maple neck on my Charvel DK 24, and it’s the first electric that I’ve never been able to sell lol I can’t say enough good things about the guitar, but the roasted maple neck is genuinely amazing.
Like literally, they feel amazing.
Awesome video! I just have a question, I have a maple neck guitar. It feels really nice and rigid. Totally worth it. My concern is, how can I clean roasted maple neck to get rid of some dirt due to sweat. Can I use lem oil? Thank you and keep making some nice videos.
As always, it’s better
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I’m looking at making my own guitar and I found a baked maple neck with abalone fret markers🤤
Torrefied maple was standard on my Strandberg Boden 6, and I'm building a EVH Wolfgang with a Standard neck on a Special body with Special electroncis. They do feel very nice, and look pretty sharp. I may be having a roasted maple Peavey Wolfgang neck made (3rd party) for a vintage unfinished US made HP Special body I managed to come across. Roasted Maple and Stainless frets seems like a hard combo to beat.
How does a baked maple fingerboard feel in comparison to non?
I put one my strat i built last winter, like you said they're super smooth and feel amazing, and mine hasn't need any adjustments so far
The neck on my Squire strat got twisted so I went on the hunt for a neck, I was going to get a Mity Mite but was looking around and ended up on Solo guitars and found a Fender (Mexican) roasted maple that would have been $299. but they had a scratch and dent and I got it for 1/2 off. After getting it on it feels awesome but I still have to do a little work on it, the nut was a little high and I need to level the frets a smidge. I am going to wait for the strings to die before I work on it, I don't want to try the nut on fresh glue.
I don't think I'll be replacing any of my guitar necks with roasted maple, but if I buy ir build a custom guitar, that'll be the first thing on the list! I think they look awesome and are worth the extra money for that really special guitar!👍😎🎸🎶