Chinese & Counterfeit eBay Necks - Roasted Maple for $60
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Love how this is exactly what we were talking about the other day 😀
The difference between a £200 and £2000 guitar these days is the fine details and finishes, and if you are willing to do those yourself... thanks for another interesting idea mate.
I'm old enough to remember when "Made in Japan" was the most cutting way to insult the quality of most products.
Adapt or be rendered obsolete.
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wow ! $60 !
You wouldn't even get a smile
from Fender for $60
This video was a crazy ASMR experience for me
I sure am glad that your channel got recommended to me when it did. I was already looking at these sorts of necks for my first parts build, and your video has convinced me to try it. I have a 60s Kawai body that I want to put a 24" scale neck on, and I think getting one of these types of necks would be good for learning purposes.
I recently bought a Chinese strat neck for the same price, it was matt black and the paint was really good just a little rough around the top edge along the fret board. Im sanding it back and repainting it now. Also needed leveling and crowning but the neck came dead straight out the box though. Very impressed!
i bought the roasted maple strat neck, it is excellent
well thats an eye opener - thanks for sharing Mark
I bought 4 Chinese necks and bodies this week after buying Allparts stuff for decades. Better than most Fender parts once finished out. It impressed me. 1/4th the price! I think they have discovered that even low prices have to come with quality for musical instruments to sell.
I live in the Philippines, there is a hard wood supply store not to far from me, they have the largest supply of hardwood i have ever seen, they buy trees from all over the world, saw them in to lumber kiln dry it, and supply furniture manufacturers
Great video, my man...thanks !
Really just a question of if the wood is cured properly.
Here's something random though. Any chance you'd be willing to sand down or otherwise murder one of those roasted necks? I'm curious if they're actually roasted or if they're stained lol.
The one neck looked stained. If you look in the tuner holes you can see the wood is lighter in the holes.
I sanded it down to the wood. It's 100 percent roasted. The wood color is caramel colored and the smell of the sanded wood is unmistakable.
Thanks Mark ! Awesome info !
I bought this telecaster neck off of eBay and it lowkey was better even then a fender made in Mexico neck in my opinion it was smoother along the tangs and it was so light and thin
Very good video man. Subscribed !
I have 2 of these necks on 2 x partcaster.......one of them has become my fav taking precedence over an actual 1980s strat, ultimately, guitars and especially strats are ingeniously simplistic, fender are a victim of Leo's brilliance as they are easy to copy well. Like you I spend a lot of time on set up regardless of brand so that aspect is academic really. If I really want to get picky I would like a one peice and not a glued on board but really..........!
I just bought one of these for $69.00 and it is beautifully done, the frets are rounded better than Fender custom shop and I had no problems showing off the guitar to friends who asked me if it was a real Fender Player Stratocaster CS in NEON YELLOW!??!?!
No, but I slept in a Holiday Inn last night.
You get extra points for using Brian Eno as your background music
A couple things that weren't mentioned; if you buy a rosewood fretboard on any of these necks, it's probably just stained to look like rosewood. And it's hit or miss as to wether the tuner holes are all the same distance from each other.
The best locking tuners that I've used so far is the 30ish dollar wcs or it might be wsc tuners that came on my Harley Benton Tele. So smooth with no play or backlash in either direction
Hi Mark, LOVE, your channel. Do you think these Chinese necks are real flamed maple or are they just wrapping wire around them and charring them with a blow torch to create a faux flame appearance?
Love your channel…your style is not overhyped, yet not lazy or unprofessional.
I ventured into Chinese necks last month. Got a Jazz roasted flamed maple neck stainless steel frets… $69 + $25 shipping + $6 sales tax. I offered 60, but they just knocked off 99 cents. Blurred pictures of the headstock, but you could tell from the stacks of necks in the background there were Fender labels and custom shop logos. Mine didn’t have the CS label.
2 weeks later the neck arrived in great packaging, completely wrapped in yellow plastic tape. Smelled of weird chemicals, like Harbor Freight on a shipping day. Visually gorgeous… satin finish, noice flame.Severe from some angles, disappears from other angles.
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Three flaws that I can see… 2 minor and one to be determined.. small tear out around the front one of the tuner holes. I think will be covered by the tuner grommet. Then there is the skunk stripe… the far end towards the headstock is slightly depressed. I’ll probably fill that with some CA glue or satin clear and sand it down. The more potentially serious is the bottom 2 inches of the neck toward the headstock dips down slightly as measured by my straight edge. We”ll see if that straightens out when mounted and strung. This could potentially produced buzzing when playing the first 2 frets.
The frets are pretty low, which means there isn’t a lot of room when sanding them down.
I haven’t built a body for this yet, so I may mount it on my Squier 54 Paranormal Jazz bass to test. Who knows, it might just live there! I’ll keep you posted, , because the more reports on this stuff , the better.
Not sure if I’ll sand down the logo yet. Not planning on selling it.
There's nothing quite like the sweet sound of a Strat!
yup....you're right ..as long as the wood is dry we're good. bass necks from china a little tougher but even if i pull the frets , level board they work fine . some USA are just as flawed if not more . My $1500 Carvin bass need complete fix because of the fret board was raised at the end .
Neck sounds great on your strat.
I would love to have some recommended sellers? Because some sellers have really good reputations, while the others do not at all
I'm always looking for necks which are wider at the nut than average. Are these available from China or do they stick to regular sizes?
my first build. like five years ago, the chinese neck was fine. it's still on there, and i need to do a proper fret job on it. it has two problems. the truss rod slot is sloppy making it harder to adjust. and the fret ends are pokey.
the latest chinese neck i bought. is way better. fret ends a butter smooth and it looks super professional. its weak point will again be the craftsman, (me) installing it.
Those necks, especially the roasted one looks really nice. IMO, that eliminates one of my concerns and recurring issues with inexpensive import guitars. They use maple that still has lots of drying to do and you end up with the inevitable fret sprout. So I'm definitely interested in the roasted necks.
You said that you do a fret level no matter what but sometimes an import or even one from the states will surprise you and have no high frets or just have one or two that need level. In the case of one or two frets I prefer to try tapping them in first and then if necessary go ahead and just file those frets that need it.
I'm curious Mark, what makes a good neck, the way It looks or the way It plays? Being an absolute guitar aficionado such as yourself I was very surprised you never checked the fretboard radius or even the scale length. All I heard you mention Is fret height and fret jobs. I guaranty all of these necks have problems, there's a ton of videos showing this. The sellers In china love buyers like you that buy these necks cause they look pretty. I do feel bad for the people that watched your video and ran out and bought these necks because you said they said they were so great. Keep up the good work
The premium Warmoth absolutely smokes the premium Fender for like 300 less and the decals are 15 bucks. It a no brainer.
I got an amazing strat neck for less than $50. Absolutely blew me away.
$50-60 chinese necks dominate the results every time I search for necks to use with my next partscaster build. I always wrote them off as either a scam or too good to be true, even if the product and the seller had great reviews. I usually pay twice as much for necks and I always considered that a fair price but I feel like I got gouged after seeing this. Good on ya for not reflexively parroting "China bad."
I built a replica of your pink Relic strat all out of Chinese parts bought on ebay. A few are higher end usa/Japan parts but the bones of it are 100 percent Chinese.
Great video. Both of those look really nice, 22 frets too. I'm wondering if UK-dwellers like me can order these from China too?
You sure can, I've ordered a few items from AliExpress in the last few months and it's been completely painless. Paid the VAT upfront automatically, paid with Paypal and items were here within a couple of weeks. Not guitar necks (or anything guitar related) but no more trouble than buying from amazon or anywhere else really.
Can't go wrong with the Chinese necks but fret levelling still needed...
I'll still give it to my Luthier to have a look at.
Bob Ross of Imported guitar necks
I got one that was tinted yellow and i hated that color so i sanded it down and behold the skunk stripe was painted on....
So how did they install the truss ? Skunk stripes are there because its one piece w a back truss route. Was it a separate fingerboard ? The level of stupidity in not replicating properly by counterfeiters is amazing.
Yep ...👍
The neck I bought last week has a slight depression on one end… an imperfection yes… but proof that it’s not just painted on.
I just built a telecaster and put a blonde hard rock maple neck on it... and I have a bunch of guitars and several Tele’s... but this guitar sounds so good and is the best playing next to my Joe Glaser...!
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The counterfeiting sucks, but I bought an unbranded "paddle" headstock roasted maple neck that allowed my to shape the headstock however I wanted. It was very nice after some fretwork, swapping to a Graptec nut, and adding staggered locking tuners.
However that was just for a beater. My own builds use woods (always laminated), profiles, radii, and frets I can't get off the shelf. And when it gets down to all those fine details, I doubt I'll ever get exactly what I want off Ebay. That's fine though, I enjoy the building process.
I just found a paddle headstock roasted neck for a great price from the stratosphere on eBay. what a time to be alive.
I posted this elsewhere within a thread, but thought I'd share it 'out' here. I know many of us have an issue with China, but it bears saying that we're not talking about the people of China, we (at least most people I talk to) just have a problem with their government. That's it. No racism, just a recognition of a potential enemy with whom we could be at war.
More cheerfully - Indonesia is making great guitars! I have two D'Angelicos, a Mini DC Premier (around $800) that competes directly with the Gibson or Epi es-339. I had an Epi 339. Neck was terrible. Very small vintage frets, and the neck was a big D with very wide shoulders. I'm short and do not have large hands and I like deep necks, even Gibson 50s necks, but that Epi 339 was a bad fit for me. OTOH, the $799 D'Angelico (an upgraded Sweetwater exclusive) has beautifully flamed top, neck, and sides, a SUPERB neck in all respects, Graphtech nut, locking tuners, and best of all, legitimate USA Seymour Duncans. They even use real mother-of-pearl inlays on the headstock. The exclusive comes with the ever-popular Jazz/JB set. That guitar is perfect and it rocks!
Don't even get me started on my Brighton Deluxe. Man, what a guitar! It's like an ornate SG. Upper fret access is perfection. Perfectly dressed Jescar frets, abalone & mother-of-pearl fret markers, flamed maple top on a belly carved swamp ash body that's got beautiful grain. Neck is sanded specifically from the first fret to the top of the neck where it has an amazing set-neck joint that flows into the body like a neck-through.
Okay, enough gushing (I love talking about gear!). Suffice to say, I have zero qualms about import guitars - especially the non-Chinese ones.
Such a great video and approach!
Love the tone and finish of the first one and the idea of using the stock neck as starting point. You have a new subscriber!
I'm building a natural roasted ash sss hardtail ST as my second project. Do you have or can recommend any videos on strat pickups? There are so many options available and the type of clean tone on this video sounds great to me. (Amazing playing btw)
Total noob here, hence the ask. Keep up the awesome videos coming!
I bought the cheapest alnico 5 pickups from guitar madness on eBay. I like alnico 5, low resistance pickups. can't go wrong with the guitar madness pickups. super cheap.
@@MarkGutierrez Thanks so much for guiding me, Mark! Have a great day!
thanks, I wasn't sure the roasted maple was real 👍
The amount of runout in that first neck is crazy, I would never use that in a million years on any guitar I built @3:43
Yeah. Unfortunately tho I've seen Fender USA guitars w equally crappy necks, 5 layers of grain. I bought a Jimmy Vaughn Strat neck off ebay w over 20. That took me all of 1 second to hit buy it now.
I prefer quarter sawn but I assume the torrefaction has to add some stability.
@@MarkGutierrez I've made necks w the grain plane perpendicular to the strings, best for not bending. And necks w the grain plane parallel to the strings, not as strong but better sounding. So quarter is half way in between ? Do you know why that is cut that way ? I've never seen it in the real world on necks , but it seems like that would be prone to twisting warps. BTW Indonesian necks seem fine, but like China the wood might be suspect. I don't know for sure , but my Firefly seems like it could have been made in Fenders Squier factory there. Its the same as a Squire model.
Would you be able to test the moisture content and verify it is actually low enough?
Nice idea. Definitely a future vid.
@@MarkGutierrez That's a rather critical question if you're advocating for these products.
Man the sound on the daphne blue guitar, where did you buy the body and electronics for that one? Great video!
I made the body out of ash. It's heavy. The pickups are alnico 5s from Guitar Madness. Probably made in china.
@@MarkGutierrez thank you!
This is true. The longer the Asian companies make guitars they better they are getting at it. With the aid of computer run CNC machines that cut and shape bodies and necks the more consistent the quality is going to get. Companies in the USA are doing the same thing.
I'm taking a shot at a 50USD roasted maple one!
Rolled the dice on a simple maple & dark wood fretboard. Was $ 40, no haggling down on listed price. The frets were even pretty good end to end of the fretboard, edge to edge. All I did was roll the fret ends & fretboard. Would I want to do a feet level & crown eventually ? Sure, but out of the box it was extremely playable. The fret sprout was ,more about a trimmed fret wire that needed the sharp clip spot from the fret nippers smoothed. Who knows how long the frets actually hold up, they aren't stainless steel and who knows what mixture of Cupronickel they are ?
Great and spot on video. I also love the price and quality on these China made necks. The frets are not an issue in my case, as I replace them with jumbo JD 6000's anyway. The thing to beware of is some "flame maple" necks. They obviously dyed strings are pulled across them, yuck.
Maple necks are alright. But cheap Chinese mahogany necks (e.g. for Gibson style guitars) are usually made from rather weak sap wood mahogany.
But in general: yes, there is absolutely some nice stuff being made in China
@@notexpatjoe the Chinese guitar kit that I built once, it had the light brown mahogany and the neck would bend quite a bit. But maple necks were good so far, wenge as well :)
@@notexpatjoe very likely, yes
A good video.
Wow! Your playing style is perfection. I’m jaded from thirty years of being around the instrument but this blew me away. Very very good my friend.
I wonder if what you get is conistently good? I mean, 80 or 90 percent of the time you get a good neck, as opposed to having a 50/50 shot. I'm also curious how well they stand up over time. Seems like a reasonable risk
It probably depends on who you're getting it from, but there are so many neck counterfeiters out there that you can't really be certain either way. This guy is talking about grabbing them off of eBay, but pretty much every account associated with fake necks have a decent amount of negative reviews because the necks are not good or aren't spec'd how they were in the listing. I'd rather just pay for a legit Fender neck or something from an established company than rolling the dice. There's no guarantee you're going to get the actual radius they state in the listing, or the neck shape, nor that your tuner holes are going to be correct, that it's the wood they claim, etc. He says "a lot of those myths are grounded in the past" about Chinese necks, but again, I've looked at plenty of neck counterfeiters and they've got plenty of negative, recent reviews. I'm probably going to trust the reviews buyers on eBay post more than some random guy making a video on TH-cam to make some easy money off of ad revenue.
@@ectoplasmI haven’t seen many reviews on the necks on eBay complaining. I do find it funny that they’re virtually all Jazz necks (for bass) … a few Tele style, but no precisions.
Elephant in the room: quarter sawn?
7:12 CAT! 😁😁
I've come across many of the budget Asian necks that are not stable for holding tune. I suspect the woods are not cured properly in some cases.
I won't buy these necks for commercial use because of the copy right infringement with the ender sticker on them - this is illegal. The other issue is " how will these necks age " if the wood is not quite Canadian Maple as advertised ?
People forget back in the day US made stuff was considered trash to the world. Japanese made was considered trash. Times change. I’d argue that with the decline in American work ethic, over regulation, and over taxation American made products aren’t nearly as good as they used to be, much of it being overpriced and inferior.
Gibson is American and can't seem to build anything correctly.
I used Chinese necks on my first dozen or so builds. If you want a 25.5" C (And now a 30" baritone) you can't really do better then what's on ebay.
Don't you mean assemblies, and not builds?
@@peachmelba1000 I don't.
@dixonj8006 If I buy a bunch of heat and eat food, heat it up and put it on a plate, did I cook it or just put it up?
I'm not trying to be a dick but "building a guitar" means crafting every piece from raw materials, sometimes including hardware (but rarely).
Say you built a body, sure, but a pre-made neck cuts out 60% of the work. It's not cheating, but it's not building.
I been wanting to get a rosewood replacement neck but Fender prices are ridiculous. I will try a Chinese made 👍🏾
i don’t know how many more strat or tele builds ive got left in me, im 69 and a hobbiest, but i wish i had these resources when i was heavy into it 30 years ago
And 40 yrs ago. Now my arthritis and other things are making it difficult.
I recently purchased a lovely looking roasted maple neck that ended up being garbage. The frets were crooked. Totally unusable.
Ya pays yer dime...ya takes yer chances with something like Chinese. This is why I'm reluctant.
How much is shipping typically to you?
It's either free shipping or around 19 bucks.
Neck radius matters to me. I dislike flat fingerboards. I've noticed that most Chinese eBay sellers do not list a radius for their necks, and when it is listed it is usually 14" or flatter. Anyone have any luck finding a seller with 10" or less radius necks?
Hey brotha. How do I go about contacting you to build a custom neck?
He'll just buy you one. They're only 60 bucks😅
@@peachmelba1000 haha, they don’t seek what I need anywhere other than Warmoth. And I’ve already tried them.
@dayshellofficial But in all seriousness, I could build you one. I'm in Canada. You in the US?
No mention of the nut…the spacing looked off to my eye… to be fair could just be camera angle though. Pretty soon you will be able to buy your soul in china it seems!
I understand what you're saying, but our dependance on China is out of control. I personally would spend more on an American product just to avoid feeding the Chinese machine.
It is worrying, UK manufacturing is pretty much dead and it's impossible to compete with China.... once upon a time 'counterfeit' products were highly illegal but it seems nobody cares these days... or if they do care they've realised there's nothing they can do. Trying to stop counterfeit items coming into the country when anyone can go on a website and order them and have them delivered straight to their house is virtually impossible. It's the world we live in and there's no going back.
I try to avoid feeding the Chinese War machine but I would look to Japan, Indonesia or Korea before the US.
I’ve had to send back 3 fender vintera strats all with badly backbowed necks ..no amount of working on them would get them to straighten out and play right ..so it ain’t just Chinese necks that are bad .I’ve had quite a few Chinese squiers and they’ve been a lot better Finish wise than those fenders and played better ..
If time and money is a concern with how you build guitars then just pick a complete guitar off the shelf, or assemble kits.... Im not too worried about a Chinese factory slapping out multi laminate all Australian hardwoods with top tier truss rods and quality frets any time soon. I get what youre trying to say, but for most builders, theyre going to stick with what they can hand on heart back as they made it start to finish...
Leveling and crowning require tools and skill. Not easy. If you pay a tech you may as well pay for a Fender MX neck.
I once got an AliExpress scalloped neck....it was firewood.
The Chinese and American governments have a deal where their people pay nothing or almost nothing to ship stuff to the US.
Do you think it works the same for products going the other direction?
No…likely not.
not to mention the tools it would cost contributing to the value
I remember seeing jokes on TV shows and generally in culture in the 90s or so about stuff being made in the US being crappy. I think if people have a problem with low quality stuff being produced for cheap, what they really have whether they realize it or not is a problem with crapitalism.
I bought a neck from the same vendor on ebay that you did and it was junk. It looked nice but had a severe back bow that couldn't be corrected. It was $40 shipped . I took a chance and lost. You get what you pay for.
i got a flame maple neck with rose wood felt board from taobao for hk$320 ,around $40 US dollars , not including shipping cost, i dont even have a body to bolt on or any parts to build a guitar, there basically all strat,tele neck around under $40 us dollars ,if not a very fancy one, just normal roasted maple around $30 us dollars , 70s big headstock maple neck with block inlay and binding tin finish $25 dollars.
and i want to buy a les paul body for that fender flame maple neck , im not a guitar builder, i dont know how to make it work , bolt on gibson les paul with fender headstock looks funny .
I just bought a roasted, flame maple Tele neck for $130 Australian dollars. That’s cheap!
The wood is always green I guess roasting would fix that.
As always, great content. Roasting is not exactly the same as torrefication. Any of us can roast our woods in a big oven, or fireplace. Torrefication involves a special vacuuming process. Oxygen is removed as well as moisture. This actually strengthens the wood. Ethics are a huge issue here. How can you trust a company willing to steal another company's logo and registered trademark? Stop support counterfeiters. That act, alone, means you are also breaking the law.
Its no surprise that quality control and lutherie culture has trickled down to even the cheapest necks from china. After all, all the major players have moved a large portion of their manufacturing overseas anyways in the last 3 decades or so, and with that: knowledge and skill.
Over the holidays I helped my dad purchase and eastman taylor style acoustic used for $800. That thing is pound for pound as good or better than a taylor at 4-5X the price.
Only reason to buy name brand is resale value. Either go cheap and pay or do the setup or go big and work with a local luthier whom you like their style of work.
very true, though name brands depreciate somewhat, resale value is a big factor to consider when buying.
@@MarkGutierrezNot at these prices. So you put $200 into your Chinese Partscaster. It’s probably never going to sell for less than $125 later. Depreciation? You’re not going to spend a grand building a Chinese Partscaster. Now if we’re talking Warmoth assembled parts… you’re talking depreciation.
Yep. Cnc is a great equaliser.
Is this guitar ASMR ?
not my experience... the chinese 22 fret neck i got for $60 had the heel cut so far forward that it wouldnt intonate at all
Your roasted neck is not seated correctly it’s treble side heavy look at your centre dots
I just assume the "roasting" process is just a brown stain.
Always a good idea to read the comments first before posting. Answer below is no. I'm surprised too
It's only counterfeit in the sense the decake has fender on it the actual neck is real made from maple so you pay your money and take your chance does a hand made replacement neck made by walmouth or a builder constitute counterfeit if the owner applies a decal ?
The problem with Chinese necks and guitars in general isn't the basic cuts or routes... a CNC does the majority of the work... the issue is the handwork involved in laying frets, buffing the finish. wiring shoddy electronics and their interpretation of wood species since there are no regulations over there. An experienced player can level frets, change electronics, do a setup, etc., but the average newbie won't even know how to run a fret rocker over the frets or deal with sharp ends, etc..
I've tried four necks in the past, all of which were duds. The maple I have tried was not Eastern Hard maple, but some kind of softer Maple that constantly flexes out of tune and of course shrinks and produces fret sprout. Aside from that, do we really want to undercut American companies to buy illegal Chinese goods? As an American guitar builder it cuts my own throat. I don't want to be part of the problem.
Not everyone can afford a custom made or American manufactured instrument. And I'm certainly not paying exorbitant prices for a name brand logo on a headstock either... all of these companies; Jackson, Gibson, Fender, etc have been corporate owned for years.
As an Australian, I couldn’t care less about serving over priced American companies! I’ll take a $60 neck over a $500 Fender neck any day!
It's not illegal unless you plan to sell it as an authentic brand. Counterfeits are legal to own for personal use.
Where was the phone made that you're using? Unfortunately we can't get away from Chinese goods at least not right now and it will take decades and a lot of the parts you buy for guitars that you think are domestic are actually imports. Take for instance cts pots they're in every American made fender and they're made overseas.
@@scottdunn2178ahh so
The quartersawn Canadien Maple neck with Jescar stainless frets on my 2021 Shijie is amazing.
I see no results for quartersawn necks on ebay. Where?
@@NytronX It's on my Shijie guitar. eBay?
My experience hasn’t been the same as yours. Over the past 2 years I bought 3... well technically 4 since one never arrived and took several months to resolve. Anyway the 1st one I received wasn’t bad except for the radius and tuner hole size was not as advertised. 2nd one was a joke. There was no truss rod! They just glued a nut in the heal slot!!! Not only that I was able to just pull the frets out with my fingers. Last one I received had nice wood but needed a lot of fret work and unfortunately I order SS frets. Word of advise... Don’t go with SS unless you plan on spending 2 maybe 3 times longer dressing them. Also be aware you will never know when your neck will arrive. It’s best to say anywhere between 2 weeks to 2 months. The tracking info is a joke. However the price might be worth it if you’re new to building and want a neck to practice fret work. Or you might get lucky and get something really great.
Some sellers are worse than others. I only had one mishap where my neck was delivered to the wrong state. eBay buyer protection refunded my money.
No doubt it’s a roll of the dice. The price is so cheap I’m not really discouraged to buy them again. It's an affordable way to feed my partscaster build addiction.
Cheers! @@MarkGutierrez
Chinese "roasted maple" might just be maple with some BROWN DYE rubbed in it.
"Maple syrup" lol
Well my jet guitar that i have recently scalloped is 100% roasted(so obviously no dye)...amazing feeling neck bolted to a nice sonic blue strat type body with a bone nut at 200 euro while the roasted maple player strat goes for 935 euro....that ridiculous...now add 350 more and that guitar currently has kinmans as its pickups and hipshot as its tuners....so it ended with way better parts than what the strat player is wearing or even the ultras and still costs a fraction of the price of the "real" thing...
I sanded the stain off the roasted maple. It's 100 percent roasted.
China can make some amazing stuff I have a GOC headless that is great . With that said China can be very shady about way they build stuff an what it’s actually made of
This GOC guitars are killer
Why are you whispering?
The two best guitars that I have ever played were both from China
IMO... buying/playing a Chibson/Chender anything is a musician I don't want to play music with...
Next time do research as how Chinese factories obtain the woods they use for the necks and what are their environmental and work safety standards.. but I doubt you care about that given your excitement
That's China's problem, not ours.
Calm down, Karen 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have four Warmoth necks. None of them needed fret jobs; the "worst" one had half of one fret which was just high enough to make the fret rocker rock, took about 5 minutes to fix. Warmoth does not round the ends, so if you want that you'll have to do it yourself, but they are totally playable right out of the box with nothing sharp to snag on. And bragging about getting a Fender branded fake so cheap is...well, pretty cheap itself.
Warmoth necks dam* well better be good. They're not inexpensive by any stretch. They, in and of themselves are considered to be a high-end USA custom shop - best in the business - and you pay for it.
Yeah it’s inevitable that as a guitar consumer, if I’m able to get a good quality neck for less, that’s a no brainer for me. I think a lot of these boutique builders got used to the guitar boom of 2021 but in reality paying $3000 for a guitar is just ludicrous to me. I got my American strat in the 00s for $550 on sale. If I could still get affordable prices on American stuff, I’d gladly pay that. But the fact that American stuff is no longer superior in quality and is WAY more expensive, for me the affordable import stuff is way better. Not even just Chinese. All of my recent favorite guitars are all Indonesian made including my favorite LTDs I own. Flawless guitars. I played a $5000 American ESP the other day and it made me cringe at how cheap and garbage it felt. It felt like a $200 guitar. Very sad. Until something changes, it’s value over local goods for me
I can agree. I have an LTD M-1000 made in Korea that I bought new at least 12 years ago and it’s an incredible guitar. Everyone that picks it up can’t believe how well it plays, feels and sounds. I did replace the FR 1000 series to a Gotoh GE1996T including the post and installed a set of Fishman Fluence.
Yeah, my Indonesian Ibanez AZ is flawless. It's the guitar that put me on this journey for finding overseas quality guitars.
@@danrao3707 yep. I also have a Korean TE1000 ET LTD and is also flawless too. Just so much value and quality out of Korea and Indonesia. I was also on the hunt to get a Gibson 335 and on a whim snagged a 90s Korean Epiphone dot. Needless to say I no longer need/want the Gibson.
@@MarkGutierrez yep. 100%. Such great value from Indonesia. My Sire S7 is my most played strat style guitar of this past year and also from Indonesia.
Indonesia is making great guitars! I have two D'Angelicos, a Mini DC Premier (around $800) that competes directly with the Gibson or Epi es-339. I had an Epi 339. Neck was terrible. Very small vintage frets, and the neck was a big D with very wide shoulders. I'm short and do not have large hands and I like deep necks, even Gibson 50s necks, but that Epi 339 was a bad fit for me. OTOH, the $799 D'Angelico (an upgraded Sweetwater exclusive) has beautifully flamed top, neck, and sides, a SUPERB neck in all respects, Graphtech nut, locking tuners, and best of all, legitimate USA Seymour Duncans. They even use real mother-of-pearl inlays on the headstock. The exclusive comes with the ever-popular Jazz/JB set. That guitar is perfect and it rocks!
Don't even get me started on my Brighton Deluxe. Man, what a guitar! It's like an ornate SG. Upper fret access is perfection. Perfectly dressed Jescar frets, abalone & mother-of-pearl fret markers, flamed maple top on a belly carved swamp ash body that's got beautiful grain. Neck is sanded specifically from the first fret to the top of the neck where it has an amazing set-neck joint that flows into the body like a neck-through.
Okay, enough gushing (I love talking about gear!). Suffice to say, I have zero qualms about import guitars - especially everyone who isn't China - though I know I'm getting China products no matter how hard I try to avoid it. We, the US, put ourselves into this position many years ago. All this being said, it has absolutely ZERO to do with the fine people of China, it's their government that we all need to be concerned about.