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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2024
- Decided it was time to buy a new rc plane, and chose the Atomrc Swordfish. I'm instantly very impressed, so far its been nothing but awesome!!
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I prefer the Swordfish over the Dolphin even though a twin has an additional point of failure. I think the important thing is that the Dolphin is made for pilots who want their heart rate raised, whereas the Swordfish is made for those of us who want it lowered.
Haha that's a really good metaphor for describing the 2 aircraft!
I guess a twin could be seen as an additional point of failure, but its also an additional redundancy if you know how to set it up properly in something like arduplane, and using a seperate channel per motor. Lose a motor and it can still fly on the other, assuming youve got enough authority from the rear stab/rudder ?
Good stuff!
Excellent video, informative and most enjoyable.
I ordered my Killer Whale Digital FPV long range setup from American Drones in Moore Oklahoma
One of the odd things about this product is the specs.
Atom rc Recommended prop - 7045
Atom rc provided prop - 7042
I plan using both to see how they do. I suspect the 7042 are more efficient.
Great video- super helpful
Great flight and what an awesome location to fly! Unbelievable amount of flight time, your amp draw at cruse seems to be super efficient!
I personally have never had an issue understanding you , ever. Always enjoy your narrations.
I also use the same 3000 mAh GNB batteries in my T-1 and usually get up to 40-45 minutes at absolute best. The Swordfish seems to have a more aerodynamic shape, maybe that's why it's so efficient.
I agree, better aerodynamic shape will certainly be part of why this thing is so efficient. Doesn't just look cool for the fun of it lol
Love it Giz.
I came in to write a positive comment to a hobby colleague. Well, what can I say. great flight and picture, I envy that you can launch a plane, we still have a ban on launching drones)
I bought the T1 Ranger as my 1st plane. I managed to tear it up some trying to fly it without FPV and without a flight controller. So I bought the VTOL flight controller and hooked up a Caddx Vista to it, but then got really busy at work and it's been sitting on the shelf for a few weeks now. I can't wait to get it back out. I was trying to decide between the T1 Ranger and this Swordfish plane as my first. I think the Swordfish will be my second after I make sure I can fly the plane alright.
Oooh you were brave flying without FPV or a FC! Lol. I hope you have more luck with the VTOL FC and Vista onboard for the 2nd attempt lol
You need a panning servo, watch the Pirates video mate.....lol..
You should be able to stay up with no motor if the wind is coming off the sea...Smooth moving carpet of lift, best there is because the sea is flat...🤔😏😏😳🇬🇧
I am considering a panning servo. Only problem for me is my radio (Tango 2) doesn't have sliders, so would need to engineer a creative solution for controlling the servo
@@gizfpv Oh, you bought a Tango?...see me after School ....Well, you could use the Rudder stick on a switch, so flip the switch for camera Panning, back again for Rudder control maybe ..🤔😳😏😏🇬🇧
Great video, thanks. Sound is not that bad. Putting some sponge foam over your phone microphone/s as a pop filter would help a lot.
My phone case actually has a wind filter for the mic built in, but annoyingly I find it makes the audio worse. Typically have to take the case off to record audio segments for my videos 🤦
Хороший самолет, отличное видео. Однозначно лайк.
greta video , whats your current meter scale and offset steps ?
i was literally about to buy this and then i seen this old warbird a t28 trojan 1.2 pnp for 25% off, so in aud it was 560 and went down to 420, i was looking at buying the swordfish in rth version for 390, so i ended up buying the trojan because with a fc and everything i needed it was about 550 but still saved $140, and i can always get the swordfish for 390 so i pulled the trigger on the warbird lol i already have fpv gear for it so yeah its going to be dual camera one in the cockpit one under the plane both on servos so i can pan around. i havent had a plane with landing gear before so im excited and also really afraid LOL!
Awesome video! Thank you, it's always a pleasure watching your builds and flights. What do you think of a similar build with an Eclipson model X?
Just looked it up. That's a very cool looking plane. Bit big for my liking though
Great video! What receiver are you using and does it have gyro? 🙏
Great video, What battery would you recommend?
Yeh AtomRC planes are really fab!
Had Dolphin, but unfortunatly it didn't survive :( Great plane but requires much higher starting speed what makes it a bit harder to launch and landing speed is over 50km/h so it is a bit harder to smoothl land.
Swordfish because of twin-tractor the launch is so smooth, you just release it and it goes... landing (especially if you set up flaperons) also super smooth!
At the moment it is my favorite plane! and defiantly recommended as starting plane for newbies, I'm not even talking about efficiency and flight time and how big battery its capable of caring
Man she’s an absolute beaut ✊🤝😍
Try putting a sock over your phone. It'll act as a pop filter to stop the rushes of air from plosives. Other than that the quality is fine.
Awesome flying, dude! 😃
Really nice airplane indeed!
What is it running? iNav? I don't remember from the reviews how was its internal space for FCs and so on...
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Yeah it's running Inav, although Atomrc will let you download a pre-configured Ardupilot file from their website if you prefer. I might try it at some point just to get a bit more Ardu experience :)
Great video, i'm in a similar boat as you were. What might sway my decision is availability. Everything seems to be sold out :'(
Cool stuff! I want to give fixed wing another try one of these days. My first go at it was a complete failure.
You absolutely should give it another go. Fixed wings are awesome fun :)
@@gizfpv I definitely will at some point this year. Thanks for the encouragement!
@@gizfpvalmost a year later and I bought a sailplane, started looking for an FPV plane and found my old comment. Looking at this, the Dolphin and the new Zohd Altus but I can’t decide what to get.
I want to buy a model for long pleasant flights. I wanted a hee wing t1, but I watched a video about swordfish and now I don't know what to buy. which aircraft do you prefer? reliability, maintainability, the impression of long flights.
the audio is fine mate, don't get too stressed about that
Wish the Swordfish had a different mounting setup for digital fpv system. Not a fan of the nose and props always in view.
Audio is fine, footage is better than nat geo
on my list is a XBIRD-XB800. that would be cool watching your "making of" since you do the best and your test flights.
Nice plane but only after you extend wings.
I'd not heard of that before so just looked it up. Very......interesting looking aircraft. Massive tail, but very small wings? Lol. I'll make a point to watch some videos on it later
@@gizfpv I got some clips from flying it.. Baseline it is pretty wobbly with these small wings. Andrew Newton made a mod for it, extended the wings by 125mm each, I did the 3d printed wingtips extension based on his idea and now the plane makes sense.
Pretty efficient too.
@@gizfpv do that. I like the simplicity of that plane. will watch your vid if you make one :)
I flew my HEEWING T-1 again and I dropped to 30% throttle (on 3s) and it dropped into a nose dive lmfao. I throttled up to 70% and was able to regain control but yeah I think this plane has a huge advantage over the T-1 minus portability
the poor glide performance is down to the props windmilling in the wind, Connect the FC to BLHeli and you can change the ESC's to have a brake function. this then in turn makes it glide much much better. I speak from experience in doing this :)
Great stuff! Now let’s see you VTOL’ing this baby 😊. Which FC is fitted as stock? I wonder if it’s Ardu-compatible.
Sorry for late reply. The stock FC is a Atomrc branded one (that's basically a clone of the Matek F405 wing). By default the FC comes with INAV preinstalled, but you can download a pre-configured ardupilot file from the atomrc website if you prefer :)
Great videos.
Hey did you mention if you are using INAV or Arduplane?
I'm using INAV on mine
The poor gliding with the power off is due to propellor drag. If the propellors could fold back out of the airstream it should improve greatly. Beautiful countryside you have to fly over.
Thanks for the great video.
I am planning to purchase the Atomrc Swordfish RTH+FPV model as my first plane, what else is needed? Googles, What else?
Thanks in advance.
Goggles (with receiver and antennas), a transmitter, a receiver, and a battery. That should be everything :)
@@gizfpv Many thanks
@@gizfpv many thanks, now I just need to figure out which ones and how to make it all work together ;)
Audio is fine by the way
Battery.. did you use a 3s or 4s 5000mha.
Great video. Cheers
4s 3000mah Lion.
Hey Giz, nice flight!
Is there enough space for a second 4s3000?
Wonder if it’ll take a 6S?
Great and informative flight. My preferred position for camera location would be on the canopy with a pan servo so can look around a bit. Would mostly minimize nose in view, but allow for great motor and wing views. The canopy position might raise some concerns for how secure the camera/canopy attaches, but a 3d-printed latch could solve. (check out Eclipson Airplane canopy latch designs for some creative inspiration .. in assembly videos)
Regarding your glide test (8:51), wondering if you had the ESC brake set, as windmilling props can be very draggy. ESC brakes also have soft and hard braking, so likely want hard braking. Ideally combined with folding propeller, for glider style setup.
Noticing props appear to be turning different RPM (4:50), so wondering if have differenctial throttle (yaw mix), or it might be related to lighting angle?
Having flown the Volantex Ranger a bunch last year (pre-T1 Ranger), it would be interesting to hear your thoughts between the two in future, after have the Swordfish tuned in.
Yeah I'm gonna do some experimentation with camera positions. Certainly keen to see how things look with the camera positioned on the canopy. The latching mechanism on the Swordfish actually seems fairly robust so I don't think the canopy would be likely to fall off, but yeah I'll look into ways to reinforce it if needs be. As for the gliding and ESC brake, I absolutely agree, and this is the number 1 reason why I mentioned wanting to fix the brake. I need to go back and look at the settings. Hopefully it's just something I've missed. That's a interesting point about the motor RPM's. I'd also noticed the 2 motors sometimes seemed to spin at different rates, but hadn't thought much of it. I'll have a look at the Inav settings shortly, maybe you're right, maybe Atomrc have done some fancy yaw mixing. Very cool if they have. As for the Volantrex Ranger, it's a great aircraft.....when it's flying. Problem for me is the damm wing retention clips keep breaking and it's a major hassle to repair them. As a result my Ranger has been in storage 8 months now and in all honesty I don't know what my future plans are for it
@@gizfpv Sorry to hear you're having ongoing issue with the V-Rangers wing retention clips. :( That would be frustrating. Otherwise, it seems like a good model.
Thank you, what a nice plane. I fly drones but think of trying out a plane in the near future. It might be a silly queation, but will the plane be able to fly on one motor?
Regards, Gert from The Netherlands.
You should try out a plane. I used to fly drones, but once I tried a plane I was hooked lol. Yes the plane would be able to fly with 1 motor, although it would constantly want to yaw to one side which would require rudder action to compensate
What type battery are you using for ?
Are you using Inav or betaflight or? I love the plane! I want one!
Inav. Planes can't run betaflight lol
I have the dolphin as my first plane and it's really awesome. It's good at everything. It's efficient, good for LR, but also great for high speed and freestyle and crazy manouvers. It's stable even in slight wind. It's not too big or heavy. Every other plane I've considered does at least some of these worse. The only, huge, disadvantage is that I just can't figure out how to launch it consistently. It's good that I can easily glue it back together (unlike the ranger), but it's already in a pretty bad shape.
When you test the max flight time on the ranger, do you fly faster than the swordfish? Because I'm not really trying for max range or time and I still got over 41km in 41mins on a 3s4200 (4s3000 would be like 3s4000). I cruised for half that flight and flew light freestyle for the rest. I'm pretty sure I could push it to 50min if I cruised for the entire flight or more if I also slowed down. I have the old version of escs/motors/props so that might also play a role.
I'm not sure if esc break will work. They have a 2004 (edit: never mind, it's bigger, but still) motor with 7" props. Ranger also can't always stop the props. Why do you want this feature? I turned it on, because I have a pan servo and it's cool to look at it, but the prop would have less resistence if you allow it to spin.
It will have more resistance if you let it spin. It works that way in full size airplanes and small ones.
Whereabouts is this place Giz? It’s gorgeous
Wow I never had a problem with your audio. My suggestion would be a Rode smartLav if you’re already using your phone.
Annoyingly my phone doesn't have a headphone jack, otherwise that would have been a ideal solution!
Glad you managed to comment on the right video in the end btw :p
@@gizfpv bummer about there headphone jack. I would say wireless go 2, but they are expensive
I might have missed it but was thus with a Li-ion running that low?
Not really sure what you mean? Yeah I was using a li-ion battery. I did slightly over discharge it at the end of the flight (min voltage is 10v but I took it down to 9) but thankfully it bounced back up after the aircraft was disarmed
Where are the links? Thanks
1 hour flight = GREAT
What is the long range distance and speed?
And battery capacity?
The 'trip distance' for this flight was 43km, so you could probably do a 20km flight and back quite comfortably. The battery used was a 3000mah 4s Li-ion battery. Average speed at cruise is around 35-50kmh. Top speed that I've managed to achieve with this aircraft so far is 130kmh
@@gizfpv thanks for your reply
If you change the battery for a 6S 25000 mAh, would you 250 km, autonomous flight???
👏👍👍
How close was your GPS to your VTX??
About 6cm separation between them
Check out the twin timber
This plane is designed to cut the air to be efficient, timber is a great plane but not for efficiency.
Ooh I just looked it up and it looks cool. Freaking big!! But the unbreakable landing gear is awesome lol
I ordered one but atomrc lost mine and I got refunded so sadly I don’t have this plane. Maybe I’ll buy it this summer haha
Did you try others vendors,?.
That sucks, least you managed to get a refund. You should defo try order one again though :)
They seem to be in stock now so I’m in luck :-) Right now I’m flying the Dart 250g converted to 6s ❤
I fly RC aircraft at a club field. I slso fly drone. However, I have not flown FPV with goggles.
Is there a way to fly this without goggles? How can one keep track of the aircraft? Is there a way to see it on map?
You can fly without goggles yes. You could fly it line of sight (LOS) like traditional RC aircraft, or if you wanted to fly FPV but didn't want to use goggles for some reason, you could fly using a screen instead. As for your second question, yes there are ways to see the aircrafts real time position on a map. That's no so easy to do however, and depends on what control link you're using
If you have the first generation Walksnail VTX there is a high likelihood that is having severe negative affects on your GPS.
Yeah the V1 VTX is well known for producing a lot of noise on the GPS frequency. The V2 however is apparently much better
does it come with the transmitter if not which ones can it go with
No it doesn't, you'll need to buy a transmitter and also a receiver separately. There's loads of options available, but the most popular choice is Radiomaster
@@gizfpv thank you 😊
What would the esc brake accomplish?
Having the ESC brake enabled would forcibly stop the propellers from spinning when the motors are at 0% throttle. This is very useful when trying to glide (stationary props produce less drag) and when landing, as props are less likely to get broken
@@gizfpv thank you for the explanation! That makes sens. Can the props be forced in a horizontal position for landing?
@@PeterMMMMM Unfortunately not. The props will just lock in a random position. However that's still better for landing than having them spin
Just got the t1 lol
Great plane you will love it too.
T1 is awesome, you won't regret getting it :)
How far can the plane go sir?
The 'trip distance' for this flight was 43.33km, so in theory you could fly 20km and back
@@gizfpv Thanks sir
What font is it?
SneakyFPV's font
Is that Avatar or DJI?
Avataaaarrrr 🏴☠️
Honestly can't see any issue with the audio quality. Video quality is far too good though haha
Hi Giv do u mind share your cli for swordsfish please tq
400 feet…😉
you kill all people in landing