Original Kyokushin Karate was BRUTAL!
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- Kyokushin is known for it's hard knockdown style of fighting, but before being officially established in 1964, founder Mas Oyama taught a much more raw version of the art, that had full contact sparring with almost no rules. This earned Kyokushin Karate the reputation of being the strongest Karate.
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My Shihan was a direct student of Oyama Soke when he lived in Okinawa. Our style is mixed Karate but the kyukushin mentality is there. My sensei will go all morpheus and tell you to stop trying to hit and just hit. Beginner stuff is mostly Kihon and self defense but when you get to the intermediate ranks that's when the real stuff gets goin.
Sounds like movie BS to me 😂😂
Sir, what does this sentence mean 👇
""My sensei will go all morpheus and tell you to stop trying to hit and just hit""
I'm asking because, I don't understand.
Who is your Shihan 🤔
@@VinnyAlvarez-dx1nm once you take a kyokushun class you'll take back what you just said
My Sensei as well I went through the same thing where people saying its BS. Luckily, he has polaroid pictures when he spent his time in Japan in the 60's. I even have some of the pictures and it is in his DOJO to this day.
There is a great Korean movie called Fighter in the wind about Mas Oyama. I trained under one of his students in the 1970s, I was a skinny 13 yr old...absolutely no quarter was given, I crawled out of class, it was brutal. Nobody would train like that today.
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If u can give us a sample of what you guys did in the class
Cam agree as a 13yr old ping kyokushin in cape town I had to put ice on my hands after every class and having no skin on my knuckles in the cold of winter today I still do the stretches and I still warm up in the gym using the same as I was taught 30yrs ago I was taught don't hold back kick and punch to hurt don't hold back
Absolutely I took it in 80/81 tested under Shiguru Oyama in Manhattan black and blue was a standard after class but you felt like the weigh of the world was lifted off your shoulders 👊
I am a Kenpo practitioner. There are benefits to becoming desensitized to pain.
However, when recovery time from past practice hinders current/future practice there is a problem.
Train hard. If yon't maim your practice partners you'll be able to effectively learn and practice for many years.
Be well. Salute 🙏
Sensei Mas Oyama was one of the inspirations for Ryu from the Street Fighter games, doesn't get more badass than that.
Yes Ryu is based on him and what is not known to alot is he still practised actively a few hrs before he died
@@leandro-alexclarke362 Doppo Orochi too.
I can´t speak for Street Fighter, but Ryu Narushima, a student of Mas Oyama and one of the beste fighters of the late 80´s and 90´s, did motion capture for Jin Kazama in Tekken 3&4.
@@tylerdurden8049 yeah , Dppo is more acurate .
@@Asmodea01 also kazuya i heard .
I train in Kyokushin here in North Carolina. My Sensei trained under one of Mas Oyama's students for 49 years. Shihan Shigeru Oyama. Osu!
Shigeru was a real demon. crazy man
I currently train under one of Shoshu Oyama's uchi decries. Osu!
I trained with Soshu in New York! Legend!
@@scw1980I might have been one of his students!
I remember the first time I saw Kyokushin on a YT video and thought it looked cool but never thought I'd be able to do this. Plus I've never had the opportunity as my hometown didn't have that. So I studied Shotokan. But when we moved to Japan a few years ago the only Shotokan class was kids only. So my only option to continue Karate was Kyokushin. It's been almost 4 years, I'm still here, and I couldn't imagine how much I'd love it.
I was training karate for about 8 years beforee i went to Cardiff in Wales and start as a Uchi Decci under sensei Gary Bufton and i was practice karate an stamina training 7-8 our monday-friday and only 2 our in sunday but often we had competition´s and grading in the weekend so i did practice more than 40 our a week. I run 15-20 km/day, did 1 000 situps, several hundred pushups and some more when i was exercising myself. But hen i start practice this much i learn to understand what karate is all about and the dojo oath tell it all...?
Thanks Sensei Dan. As both an American Kenpo and Kyokushin practitioner I really enjoy your content and look forward to what you have coming up. OSU 👊😁
This is why I don't see Kyokushin or any other system as a style but rather as a method for training. People talk about styles but we all have arms & legs - a punch is a punch, a kick is a kick. Be water my friend 👊🥋
Kyokushin is definitely a systemen. Because of its reputation everybody likes to compare themselvrs to it but give it their own twist. Kyokushin has absolutely nothing to do with mixed martial arts either. It isn't mixed, it's karate.
You dude... kyokushin makes you hard
Thanks for the extra Kyokushin video, I been doing Kyokushin off and on for 8 years so far, and I get more hype every time I watch Kyokushin videos, it's unfortunate that Kyokushin training back then was way more intense than it is now, still I love doing the art, and it's no slouch!
Shotokan in the 60’s and 70’s were also equally as brutal and tough as Kyokushin. At the end of the day, GSP and Bas Rutten both said it best during Karate Combat:
‘A punch is a punch and a kick is a kick’
I agree with that statement completely.
I think in general the martial arts were a lot tougher back then, even in non-Karate disciplines. A combination of dojos losing students from permanent injuries and modern softer attitudes is probably what led to the mass watering down of the arts.
Shotokan never was tough as it lacked such dicipline, Gichin Funakoshi said that his style of karate is not for combat but to better yourself as he himself never went through hard training and he rarely even fought when he fought with an true Karate master he lost badly and grew bitter towards the master that beat him as he lacked a strong mind, Motobu Choki absolutely embarrased him and he never admitted to losing to Motobu
@@minecraftkingest4116 Look up "JKA", a branch of Shotokan with full contact sparring and the philosophy of ichigeki hissatsu. The son of Gichin Funakoshi was actually the master under which Mas Oyama trained Shotokan (which he eventually reached 4th dan). The point is, not all Shotokan schools are the McDojos you see today, sadly most of the hard philosophy just doesn't exist anymore, whereas Kyokushin kept that, while still watered down.
@@user-wq4nf4dk3s oh right i forgot, Mas Oyama even approved his style of Shotokan after Nei-Chu So kicked Gigo's ass after that Gigo changed his style of karate which even Mas Oyama approved of as he said that Gigo finally became a true man if i remember it correctly
@@minecraftkingest4116 Yep, Gigo was the one who brought the hard knocks into the art. Roundhouse kicks too, and head kicks. Gichin was the pacifist and cared more about the "art" than the "martial"
I'm glad to find your channel. Well done videos.
I was exposed to Ed Parker's Kenpo in 1976. My training began in 1979 with my Instructor who trained directly with EKP.
Learning and practicing lead me to advance to Head Instructor rank. It was through teaching that I realized being a practitioner was a lifelong learning experience. It's helped in more ways than I ever imagined.
Teaching and practicing is learning (meditation) in motion.
Incorporating Useful knowledge and techniques from other martial arts expands the applications; a big toolbox 😉.
Kenpo is a MA which promotes an effective merging of Mind and Body for self defense and beyond.
It works when you need it; whether fighting or not.
Thank you for the videos.
Be safe, practice diligently,
Blessed Be 🙏
Look up Valeri Dimitriv, he is shinkyokushin 5th dan, european champion 20+ times, 3 times world champion and runner up world tournament winner. He has his own kick, Valeri kick. Look it up, it’s wonderful
The secret if there is one is that the training is the hardest, In the 80’s and 90’s the dojo I was at we did hundreds of kicks and punches, If you were green belt and above then fighting was full contact, We were covered in bruises. The dojo after the 90’s went and joined Enshin.
A few techniques i think daniel should try from taekwondo:
Jump back kick - can be used at closer ranges(where kempo stylists tend to fight) or can be used aggresively to close the gap.
Fade away round kick - easy to do round kick to the body that lets you fade back from boxing range back into kicking range. Something that could compliment a hand heavy style like kenpo.
Ill keep it to those for the sake of brevity, but i have a few more ideas if daniel wants!
Check out the photo at 2:14 minutes. The chap in the middle looking at the camera is my old instructor the late Steve Arneil and the first man to complete the 100 man kumite.
You're very fortunate to have had the opportunity to train regularly with Hanshi! After the USA-IFK was created in 1996 I attended every seminar I could with Hanshi Arneil up until I closed my dojo after 9/11 and returned to active military service in 2001. Amazing teacher, martial artist, and human being! He is definitely missed😢 RIP Hanshi🙏 OSU!
Wow, never knew he was Korean. Much respect to him for putting national pride aside and dedicating himself to a Japanese style. One way to defeat a strong attack is not to be there. I'd love to see a hard style against a style known for it's evasive movements. I can't remember the name, but we had a Chinese stylist in class one day and when I tried to hit him he always moved out of the way but not in a way I could easily catch on to; that is to say, I couldn't catch what he did fast enough to know what he did.
Another great video! I love this channel!
There's an anime based on Mas Oyama called Karate Master. Pretty good show.
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Yep. A.k.a. "Karate Baka Ichidai."
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ye alot is overexaggerated but based on true stories. so Oyama fighting boxers and bulls all that is true just some are.. made to be bigger than it really was. but that doesn't mean Oyama is weaker it's just the writer loved to make it bigger is all
even the bear fight was real i think. Yasuhiko Oyama one of Oyama best students atleast. he didn't deny it so i take that Oyama really tried fighting bear
You should interview Hanshi Fred Cabano Buck. He is the son of Don Buck that opened the first American Kyokushin Karate Dojo (one year after Shihan Bobby Lowe on Hawaii that had not yet become a State)
I had train at his Dojo and its so much that the vast majority has no.idea about with the history of Kyokushin outside Japan
I grew up with American Kenpo from the age of 4 with my father who ran the school. This meant higher standards of excellence. There were other things than kenpo mixed in with the core curriculum whether students knew it or not. A little hopkido, judo and escrima fighting styles have served me very well combined with kenpo principles
The system I teach has its roots in Kyokushin, by way of Enshin Karate. 🥋👍
I had the Chance in the 90:S to do 3 years of Kyokushin Karate With Shihan Claude Bouchard from Karate Canada who had the chance to train a few times with Oyama in japan before he passed.
Awesome video
Love the Kyokushin content.
I trained several lineages of Kyokushin. First Kar-do-jitsu (Shotokan, Goju Ryu, Judo hybrid) at Amato's Goju Ryu in NJ we trained American Kickboxing and ISKA Kickboxing and Judo. Then the other was Tiger Schulmann Martial Arts (World Oyama Karate derivative) in NJ & Manhattan NY we trained K1 rules (Japanese Kickboxing, Low Kick) and MMA. The other was Shidokan at Trammell Martial Arts in Alpharetta GA. Thus, when people talk about karateka not knowing Kickboxing or striking in general that was not my experience growing up training or competing. Traditional early Kyokushin when it was still affliated with Goju Kai was full contact. That was the system that was exported to the USA, which was the lineage of "Goju Ryu" that I first trained Karate, so for me Karate has always been full contact whether Bareknuckle, wraps, or gloves. Much closer to Sanda or Lethwei than modern Kickboxing or Muay Thai.
i heard that mass oyama and funakoshi made a ageement that was about their students spreading the style across the world but shotoka would taught to usa and i thinks south america and kyokushin to the rest of the world , looks to me to be true cause usa adopted shotokan point style wich created american point style kikboxing and and europe got the kyo dutch kickboxing style.
Nice explaination..
I have a video called "Full Contact Karate in Early MMA" and that is probably what the original version of Kyokushin Karate would have looked like in old MMA bouts. In that video, you will see a lot of things which are not common in modern Kyokushin bouts such as: throws, open-hand strikes to the face, joint locks and clinch fighting with knees. They are like Bas Rutten during his career in Pancrase. However, those practitioners of Knockdown Karate don't seem to be from the main branches of Kyokushin. Their logos look different from Kyokushin's emblem.
If i remember correctly a video explained that Oyama style was so brutal that people died or got injured and left too , later on one of Oyama's student had a disagreement ( don't know if that's entirely true) over training methods and the rule set of the fighting tournaments and left to create his off branch of kyo without head punches and grappling witch we know today but the other students kept the face punches and grappling and changed the name to kudo I think or ashiraha enshin i think, anyway we can asume that oyama's students changed the logo to to fit their style .
I have a Baji cohort who practices Kyokushin and has applied the philosophy of Bajiquan in his karate to make it even stronger.
Very nice short summary video
I still suggest a video of Bajiquan for the next “History of…”
Ditto. 💯
My teacher's teacher had a BB under Mas Oyama. His name was Bob Babich. At that time, he met a Korean man that did Kang Duk Won karate. Because Babich was very fast and slight, not thick like Oyama. He changed to KDW as it suited him better. That is what I learned. Bob's school was known to have the best fighters in Northern California. That's where the Tracy's brothers found instructors for the kenpo they were spreading. Money was the driving force during those times as everyone was poor. No one did it better than the Tracy's brothers At one time there were more Tracy's schools than any other franchise. I want to say at least 150 in the US.
Sensei Dan, If you ever get around to making a video on Jailhouse Rock, I would love to see it.
Kudo are the strongest style of Karate, Someone who train Kudo can handle Muay Thai fighters and Kyokushin fighters even Boxers it's a Complete fight style.
Mr Oyama was very interesting Man He took his training to the extreme
Might I recommend Kobayashi Shorin-ryu. I trained in it for many years (2nd degree Black Belt) and for it great for close quarters combat. The head of the association (WOSKKA)is named Sid Rayford.
Sensei Daniel,
could you please make a video about Matsubayashi-Ryu?
Greetings from Germany,
Salvatore
Shorin-Ryu is something we're looking at and hoping to produce this year :)
I am definitely looking forward to your new project, of analysing new techniques that you can attain from other martial arts styles, then integrate them into your own personal style of American Kenpo Karate! I wonder what would have happened to American Kenpo Karate, Jeet Kune Do and Kyokushinkaikan Karate, had its genius creators, of Grandmaster Ed Parker, the legendary Bruce Lee and Sosai Oyama Masutatsu, would got together, to exchange combat ideas.
Many successful professional fighters be it in Kickboxing, Muay Thai, mixed martial arts, or even in the films industry, such as Michael Jai White and Georges St. Pierre, have Kyokushin Karate as part of their martial arts repertoire. Now as a bona-fide and Kyokushin Karate student and teacher myself I can say that our Kyokushinkaikan Karate needs itself to become more well rounded, by incorporating the grappling, throwing and ground fighting, plus submissions techniques of wrestling, Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Sambo and so forth, along with Okinawan Kobudo (weaponry) and Chinese martial arts weaponry in order to become more fully complete and vastly versatile. Unfortunately Sosai Oyama Masutatsu, passed way too soon, before he could implement such ideas and leave us with a more complete system of combat. Looking forward to your new projects throughout 2024 Sensei Dan, as such I wish you and everyone at the Art Of One Dojo team, as well as your respective families, the utmost best for this New Year of 2024, may God Almighty bless you all ✝️🕊📿🤲🙏🕯Osu 🥋 🇲🇽 🇦🇺 !
Thank you Sir! Always great to hear from you! Mr. Parker DID meet with many martial arts Masters, including Bruce Lee. There are trace elements of Wing Chun and in some of our fighting, and Bruce Lee worked with Mr. Parker for the Kenpo freestyle techniques. Mr. Parker assimilated a LOT of ideas from other arts, and I feel that in order for me to be an open minded martial artist, I should do the same :)
Hope you are well my friend!
Unarmed fighting methods of Chinese actual martial arts (also called actual gung-fu, actual kung-fu) contain kicks, buffets, throws, manipulations, sensitive points strikes, ground skills and jumping surprises. The kicks included kicks and knee-kicks. The buffets contain punches, smackes, finger-jabs, claws, hooked hand strikes, head-butts, shoulder-charges, back-charges, arm-strokes, elbow-strikes, hip-charges, buttocks-charges. GD CAMA /AGF/AKF💯❤️🔋🔔💥💣🥊🥋🌎
If people are getting into Kyokushin, they need to know the name Jon Bluming.
You should have mentioned that Oyama said that Kyokushin was the only style that kept the Kempo hand techniques of roundhouse block and roundhouse inverted thrust. Also worth noting that when Kyokushin first went up against Muay Thai his team were destroyed by the Muay boxers. Kenji Kurosaki was Oyama's best student and became disillusioned when he was soundly beaten by a Muay Thai boxer. Kyokushin added leg kicks Muay style to its system as a result of this.
I may integrate this into another upcoming episode where I am assimilating the Muay Thai leg kick into Kenpo, this is a very interesting tidbit, thank you.
@@ArtofOneDojo sounds good and for reference to Kempo (Japanese spelling) refer to his book "This is Karate"
Actually the Karateka won 2 out of 3 matches, so they weren't destroyed by Muay Thai. You can still watch the fights. They won by hip throws, which were then banned by Muay Thai.
@@VicNorth2023I watch the fight and everytime the Karate Guy Takedown a Muay Thai fighter the referer stop the fight, Muay Thai only won because silly rules save him.
Kyokushin beat Muay Thai 2-1 in 1964
I saw ONE guy complete a kumite. It was pretty fricken cool.
go look at Yasuhiko Oyama channel he explained in detail how brutal Oyama dojo really was. they would bite, throw into weights, eyepoking basically everything and i mean everything was allowed till yeah you surrendered or got knocked out. and black belts in that dojo did not hold back. they liked to kick the living shit out of brown and white belts
I study koryu uchinadi
We have joint locking breaking
Throwing techniques chokes and strangles all these techniques are in the katas they have always been in the katas they are not "hidden" as some suppose its just lost knowledge that is being rediscovered thanks to shihan Patrick McCarthy and others ian Abernethy also John burke to name a couple
Im wondering is kyokushin a complete system of combat ?
With the facets of combat i have listed
From what ive seen it seems to be more sports oriented
Mas Oyama also achieved 7tg degree Black Belt in Judo.
4th Dan actually
And are a Good Boxer too.
Kyokushin is a fantastically tough knockdown style but has lost a lot of its true self defence emphasis because of this… (Shodan, 13 years experience)
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Current Kyokushin is brutal.
it was but not anymore , now most school have turned into point fighting school , truly sad .
Here in Chicago training with leslaw 7th Dan president of us kyokoshin OOSS
What about Ashihara karate ? Make some content on that also !
I am a kyokushin practitioner, You talk about tequniques comparing kenpo it sounds to me with other styles. If you are talking about self defence tequniques in other styles i cant help you.
My focus has been in finding intended applications, this i have coined due to application forms. So for me its stand up wrestling. Which is very different from the kenpo systems that have less enfices on take downs.
I don't know how much help i can be, but you can look at what i am working on as some inspiration.
Even though he’s not a traditional Karateka. One old fighter to look into is Toshio Fujiwara. I believe his style is basically Kyokushin but fully realized.
Love Kyokushin and if it’s the hardest then ashihara karate (, a first gen student who trained under oyama ) is definitely the smartest .
The same vidéo for morio higaonna ?
Kyokushin and the various systems that evolved from is the closest to combat as compared to the more traditional systems of Okinawan Karate. It highly emphasize on combination attacks plus sparring is highly emphasized. The traditional systems do not even encourage sparring.
Each style of karate was brutal, not only kyokushin.
I used to do this form of karate when it was known as Kyokushinkai karate: 1986, rising to (only) blue belt. I switched to Shotokan which was more suitable for my build.
It is still called kyokushinkai karate but people call it kyokushin, same as mma it is called mixed martial arts but people call it mma.
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osu, politely, their are more Kyokushin people than judd reid. Plenty of footage of great fighters who won world tournaments, fought 100 man kumite, all japan winners. Osu.
Oh I absolutely agree, I used Mr. Reid as an example because I spoke to him when we produced our history of Kyokushin episode and he provided me with footage to use. There are many fantastic Kyokushin masters.
I do kyokushin karate
I've never done Kyokushin, but Dutch Kickboxing(KYOKUSHIN,Muay Thai,Boxing) is the closest thing I've done to it.
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Respect for the Kyokushin Founder and old kyokushin practioners
My Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu teacher says this is the effective karate.
Our school also has Muay Thai though.
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im a Shodan kyokushinkai karateka and ill admit a better and more improved version of Kyokushin is Ashihara and Enshin. Old style kyokushin were heavy on strength and conditioning but lack focus on Sabaki and techniques. I ended up learning footwork from Boxing after my karate days.
The only reason I don't do Kyokushin karate is because there is no dojo near by.
Osu!
Hey Art of One, can you do a TH-cam collab with Jesse Enkamp, Sensei Seth, Icy Mike (Hard2Hurt), Kevin Lee, Ramsey Dewey, or Rokas (Martial Arts Journey)?
I did have Jesse Enkamp on the channel a couple of years ago for a discussion. It would be fun to do a collaboration with some of the others, it would just depend on the topic and the ability to travel.
Well, this full contact Karate style incorporates protective sparring gear to minimize risk of injuries during matches.
No it doesn’t… just a gum-shield if you want, but no other gear… I’m a Shodan in Kyokushin before you ask
An old judo karate master said that he is not a fighter 😅
Impossible a Foreign Korean open a Dojo in Japan without fight and Oyama are a Veteran of World War too.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh i really don't know but that is what he said 😅
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@@hamadalrowaie6882 If you watch Oyama movie it is clear that he fought when he was in his prime. Obviously at 50 years old he stopped accepting challenges and fighting in Old Japan you have no right to open a Dojo if you don't fight against other masters.
@@hamadalrowaie6882 Oyama are not only a fighter but a soldier who fight in World War a true Warrior, He know a true Battlefield he's the real deal.
Do you want know what really bugs me about Oyama? There is an old footage of Oyama with his early students training with boxing gloves. That video is called "Rare Kyokushin Sparring 1964 Mas Oyama Dojo" and Oyama himself is in the video. Why couldn't he make and maintain a curriculum that equally includes kickboxing format and kumite format to balance things out?
Oyama trained Boxing and Judo before create Kyokushin but his record in boxing are mysterious.
Not mixed with China's player. It's separated with chanese.
There are fighting arts which does not look brutal but effective. I prefer martial arts not constrained by tradition. I like western boxing in their way of punching it is more realistic; and add to their classic close fist Karate technique, like extended knuckles and finger strikes. I prefer Shotokan or Okinawan style of kicking which is originally hip level to the bladder area; and not kicking high to the head level, which can be easily countered by a master of kicking defense. No high kicks therefore is preferable but fast and very strong. I like practicing with casual shoes(not barefooted) in kicking because when you are outside your home you are in shoes now a days. use the heel of the shoes or the side of it when kicking front kick and side kick respectively; and use the tip of the shoe to kick the round house kick to the floating ribs or kidney area or to the bladder area- no high kick like in tournament. The in-step is use in roundhouse when hitting the lower limbs. generally, no high kicks because of kicking defense.
Daido juko👍, Kyokushin 🏳️🌈👭
As much as I love kyokushin, all that stuff about Oyama is myth and marketing.
Kera-tee, TKD, silat and many other martial arts are merely cultural dances.
Is that so? Then what do you recommend?
1:38 The historical hoaky storey get more silly as time goes on...
Why teaching blocking when in sparring there is none? If punching to the face would be allowed, Kyokushin would be very different.
Look up Shinken Shobu, it's Kyokushin Karate with punches to the face.
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"Was BRUTAL"? I've seen kyokushin live and it's no cakewalk now!
Silly people will often say silly things like: "Kyokushin does not allow punches to the face so it trains you to not hit to the face which is bad for self-defence". Well, I knew a kyokushin fighter who also worked at a club as a bouncer and when brawls broke out he had no trouble finding the chin of someone attacking him.
What I do not understand is why kyokushin fighters stand toe to toe to exchange punches and kicks in kumite rather than attack and retreat. Why would you turn it into a battle of attrition? I'm more used to seeing martial arts as attacking and defending. Avoiding damage (or getting points scored on you), while inflicting damage (or scoring points). Could someone explain the objective of the kumite in kyokushin in five sentences or less and why they stand toe to toe exhanging blows?
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Because the winner of that war of attrition is the one who stands tallest. It’s a battle of wills, strength, stamina, and conditioning. It might look like going toe-to-toe but it’s actually like a game of chess to find the winning shot. (Shodan, 4 time British medalist)
In a real fight, which ring/cage is not, that's how it works
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@@TheRastacabbage Kyokushin is still the style of Karate more easy to adapt in a Ring/real fight, Back then we have soo many legends of Karate Kyokushin fighting in K1 like Feitosa, Satake, Andy Hug, Francisco Filho.
I don't understand what is the point of learning self-defence when the martial art you practice is going to cause you serious injuries. With that comes time off work and medical expenses. At least with boxing and MMA you are getting paid for it.
Training like that is typically gradual and increases as the student learns builds up conditioning. The point of learning like that is if the person gets into a real fight they're going to be able to take punishment, won't be afraid of getting hit, and will be solid and able to dish out serious punishment to their assailants.
Most boxers and MMA guys go through this, but only the top 1% get paid. The only real money are those who compete at the highest levels. All the mid and lower level fights don't pay much and I would say 95% of people who get into boxing and MMA don't compete or get paid at all.
It astounds me how misunderstood the term "Mixed Martial Arts" is, even amongst supposed martial arts enthusiasts. No holds bar fighting with out rules is a form of competition, NOT MMA. Mixed martial arts means learning from more than one discipline of martial arts, transcending nationality, culture and the globe and is a modern term because the world in the last 50 years has been more open than in has ever been compared to times of the past. Oyama is through and through mainly a karate practitioner and just because a style includes strikes and grapples does not make it "mixed martial arts".
Granted cross martial arts training and sharing has always been a part of martial art history (Karate came from Kung Fu originally, and became systematized and modernized with flashy kicks for show and sell later), but MMA is a relatively new term that Bruce Lee was the first to both propose and make main stream, a "global martial artist" concept if you will.
Additionally, Oyama was a good salesman for his art, creating propoganda and myths to help spread and sell his karate, including his bull wrestling/horn chopping edited and cut footage (where he tussled with an ill/starved/aged bull which local sources have confirmed).
Even the footage of 100man kumite seen in many Kyokushin propaganda videos of old, the students aren't even trying to fight back properly, throwing half committed shots at a gassed out, sloppy Sensei that a true fresh black belt would knock out if they really meant to do harm, and the students just fall to the ground by a simple shot, they are rather feeding into their master's ego and myth and afraid of reprimand from the club, not unlike the "no touch master clown shows" we see every here and there.
Modern martial arts originated from the Indo Europeans and not far east
Kyokushin was formed by combining Shotokan an Goju Ryu and assimilating a few ideas from other arts. Shotokan is based off Shorin Ryu which is Shuri Te which is Okinawan and Chinese in influence. Some arts were from Indo Europeans, but many older styles, such as Karate were definitely far east.
Kudo it's the Most Effetive and more realistic have elbows, Grappling, Punch in the face but doesn’t Have Marketing like Kyokushin, I respect Oyama but Kyokushin it's not the strongest.
Sosai Mas Oyama held a 4th degree black belt in Judo. Most kids in Japan are required to take Judo as part of middle and high school curriculums. At the time most of Oyama’s student knew how to grapple. I agree that Kudo is more well rounded in that it incorporates both arts but let’s not forget that the founder of Kudo Takeshi Azuma held 9th degree rank in Kyokushin.
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Kudo and Goju-Ryu are the best forms of Karate
Yes very brutal. However Kyokushin in the USA was always soft and awful compared to UK, Russia and Brazil.
You think so? You don't know the USA that well, do you?