Recent, I have a I7 870 and was getting decent FPS in games with med settings and 1080p with a old ass ati HD card. People just enjoy building things as something to do or want the latest and greatest. If the cpu is for cpu only things then I would agree somewhat based on job vs personal use. More convince vs money imo.
Bruh, I am in the process of selling my i7 6700k. I don't even give a fuck anymore, selling my GTX 1070 as well. Ryzen SR8 (8 cores and 16 Threads) and Vega will be my new rig by summer time. I know it sounds risky but I live in Canada so it's cool (cause we live in igloos and AMD couldn't possibly set my igloo on fire).
Intel isn't the one locking it, HDCP is. It's not Intel's fault that this is the first processor to support a brand new HDCP layer. They just happen to be the first HDCP 2.2 product out. AMD and NVidia will be coming through with HDCP 2.2 support in their next hardware revision too.
I think more of the blame falls on Microsoft and Netflix. The intel part of the whole mess has to do with a hardware-based codec requirement. MS and Netflix are the ones locking UHD streaming to the Edge browser. Then again they are both data mining tech corps, so I'm not all that surprised they are using the privacy-sucking Edge/Windows 10 combination.
Your more pissed off about that then the fact that UHD is only supported on 7th Gen of Intel Processors when even my fucking smart ass 4K TV can do it * Mind Blown *
You're going to have to wait until 2018 as when Cannonlake first launches, it's only going to be for mobile products for quite a while. In the meantime, Coffee Lake is meant to hold people over. It's an optimization of an optimization (Kaby Lake), but it's meant to bring 6 cores to the main desktop market, probably to compete with Ryzen.
What's the last AMD product that you bought? Did you check any RX400 series review? Believe me, I'm not playing the fanboy part. I'm just concerned about the stereotypes going on, because it's a bad way of seeing things.
Wait, I might just be a little stupid, but he said the Z270 Motherboard will allow you to overclock the unlocked Kabylake processors. If I get the 7700K will my ASUS Sabertooth Z170 S motherboard be able to overclock it, or should I then just get a 6700K and be able to overclock it?
You can still overclock Kaby Lake or Skylake processors on Z-series chipsets -- so Z170 or Z270 will work for overclocking for Skylake or Kaby Lake. Main benefit of Z270 is more HSIO PCI-E lanes (+4), Optane support (confirmed only for 200-series boards so far), new features like the USB 3.1 front panel connector and better M.2 SSD configurations.
Intrepid Nick What did Intel do? Like they did waited for AMD to catch up to their latest processors. Yes I do think Nvidia is horrible for copying AMD's technology and then making it 2x better.
Actually Intel wouldn't give them the licensing, which is why AMD took so long creating, and trade marking their own Simultaneous Multi Threading technology @ Fzmh. After it was all said and done, AMD still sold them certain licences from their Radeon graphics. AMD's mantle also led to Vulkan which ended up influencing Microsoft to release Direct X12 with multi core scaling in mind for triple A titles. AMD is a lot of things, slow, out dated, noncompetitive. One thing they are not though, is anti consumer.
This 4K locked to Kaby Lake is nonsense. Even a 5 year old laptop has more than enough processing power to stream 4k movies. This is the kind of shit that would get people to stop buying your products Intel/Netflix/M$...
***** No, Kaby Lake comes with hardware to run encrypted software. That way they will close the decoding hole. The video decoder is delivered to your computer encrypted, it's run encrypted, the video stream is encrypted and every copy of every frame will be encrypted at all times and will be output on an encrypted HDCP connection. There will be no way to rip movies by dumping memory or anything as it will all be encrypted.
Procrastinator7 yeah i know, but who actually rips movies from netflix? And now if you want to watch Netflix in 4k you need a 7th gen CPU, money for Intel, the Edge browser= money for Microsoft, not to mention the rest of the conpanies involved.
***** I'm wondering what Netflix has to gain from all this. Surely they are losing money on people not upgrading to the 4k subscriptions, and why should they care if people are ripping Hollywood studios off?
I mean don't get me wrong, I'm glad I don't have do buy a new cpu every year to keep up. I played pretty much everything on Ultra/Modded well above 60fps with this cpu and a 980 at 1080p.
Ivy Bridge to Kabylake, clock for clock, there's only a 0-10% difference in performance, which holds true for Sandy Bridge in most cases as well. The only gains you get each generation is pretty much in power efficiency, so no reason to upgrade at all.
I got a MainGear Vybe that is going to be my next upgrade project. So considering one of these new cpu processors and motherboard combo's would be fun. I love building anything for fun. Perhaps I'll do a video of the whole reproduction.
As long as 4K blu-rays will work without Intel chips then I don't really care. I won't bother with 4K streaming until internet bandwidth is more consistent. I don't think I've ever even reached the advertised speed, day or night. *I've probably hit 40Mbps of the advertised 60Mbps. If 4K blu-rays do not work without buying the new Intel chips then that'll basically cement my resolve to never buy Intel again. Exclusive deals don't help make things better. They screw over the customers.
Joe1up I'm really hoping for amd to challenge intels dominance over the cpu market, but everyone got on the hype train when people were saying the 400 series of amd gpus were going to be on par with nVidias 1000 series, so I'll pass on the hype train, but I am hoping amd can improve their ability to compete with ryzen.
Well, the RX 460 is better option than 1050/1050ti. For just $20 more, you can buy the RX 470 for 1.5x better perfomance. And the RX 480 as said by a lot of people, is better, and would be better, than a GTX 1060.
moparjr89 RX 460 is better than a 1050, since it's cheaper. Also since nVidia clearly doesn't know how to price things properly, it costs only 20$ less than a RX 470, which is a huge jump in perfomance.
Really really hope ASUS brings out an updated Sabertooth board, completely in love with the Sabertooth S. Got my fingers crossed for a Z270 Sabertooth :D
these appear to be deals made with specific content providers (Netflix in this case), TH-cam is not included so 4K vids will still work streaming from TH-cam
As far as the Netflix 4k thing, Edge is the only browser that supports 1080p viewing, so its no surprise that this is the case. As for the HEVC, my understanding is that Kabylake has 10 bit whereas anything prior to this only has 8 bit. I could be wrong about that last bit though
Sorry if this is a n00b question, but I can't find figure out the answer: Are the additional 4 pcie lanes on the 200 series chipset available when using a 6700K on the new motherboards? Or are the additional lanes also CPU-bound as well?
What differences are there between the "Engineering Samples" of Kaby Lake vs actual retail boxed product? Are the confidential chips the creme de la creme, or what?
Why does this Kaby Lake make it's way out now that I have finally build my dream Skylake -build in my head and I have the items in my cart ready for ordering? I remember since like early 2000's I have been a fool for waiting for new innovation and always kinda "coping on" with my previous older PC build because I've been waiting for the next new big thing, and then usually when it comes up I still end up waiting for the next one. This went so far that I was gaming on an HD3850 card from 2008 until 2012... and now I am updating from my i5-3450, GTX660 setup to i7-6700K and 1060 6GB system... or am I?
RE: optane ready There's new instruction sets that need to be on the CPU to allow proper use of Optane. Since it's higher-latency than DRAM, but still similar speed it needs special architecture support for its new place in the product stack. Though Optane technology could still end up in DIMM's and SSD applications, those applications rely on the existing DRAM/NVME/SATA architecture to communicate along, not just PCIe or memory bandwidth concerns.
ZX6R this entire premise ONLY APPLIES to Netflix. Skylake is capable of handling 4K but Netflix will not natively run on anything other than a Kabylake processor.
Hey, I've got an i5-4690K on Z97 with DDR3. I'm bottlenecking the hell out of my 1080 and was wondering if saving for an i7-7700K would be wise. Considering I do nearly 4k video editing, I believe the increased performance over the i5 variant would benefit me. Also being similarly priced to Skylake for slightly better performance. If price wasn't a problem for me, what would your suggestion be? Get Kaby Lake now or get Skylake knowing better performance is out there for the same money? Or perhaps I should wait for Cannonlake which is rumored to be revealed in Q2 2017; right around the time I'm getting money for an upgrade?
I'm building a rig for a mate and he was going with a i5-6600 & a H170 motherboard, but the Sky lakes are all out of stock here in preparation for Kaby Lake. Would he be fine using the same motherboard but opting for one of the new i5-7600/7500 etc?
Here I am stuck with this 6 year old AMD FX cpu wanting to build a new PC. Idk what to do at this point. Should I upgrade to the 7700k? Or wait to see how zen is? But who knows how long we'll be waiting for zen? :/
ejuice - if you're a AMD fan than wait a bit. If you're a Intel fan than go with a i-5 6600k (skylake) perfect for gaming or if you do streaming while gaming or make content as well as game then go i-7 6700k (skylake) either of those two in a Z170 board will last you for at least 2 years before thinking about upgrading again. You can also run both those skylake CPUs in the new Z270 boards. That being said .. the Z170 boards are still new enough and great for gaming and overclocking so no reason to buy a z270! I've always built my gaming machines with AMD processor. I've built 8 of them since 2005. This past month I decided to build my son a new gaming rig. He had a 990 board with a FX6300. The board wouldn't support a 8350 or any 8 series AMD processors. So after researching plenty into buying him a new board that would support the 8350 I realized it's either wait for ZEN or it's time to jump over to intel. I have no doubt the AMD Zen CPU will be a beast but at what cost and I had no time?!?! The current price for a i5 or i7 skylake is a bit high but paired with a Z170 board it's worth every penny! Plus they will both be future proof for sometime. For his build I went with the i5 6600k, ASUS aura Z170 gaming board, and a MSI 1060 GPU and his system it blowing away a FX8350 we have. This all coming from a AMD fan boy! Hope it helps! I will still be building a zen rig in the near future... I hope.
Hey Paul or anyone else,one out of topic question will Corsair vengence led fit with evo 212 in nzxt s340 case on MSI gaming Z170A-G45 gaming. Thanks in advance
You said something about this cpu coming out by this week. Is there any specific date told to you? If there is a date of when this cpu comes out, could you reply and tell me.
They will be 0.5% faster, 2% more power efficient and 12% more money! yay!
Long live monopoly
gamerx9191 0.5% faster but only if it is 5+% more clocked then 6700k
Recent, I have a I7 870 and was getting decent FPS in games with med settings and 1080p with a old ass ati HD card. People just enjoy building things as something to do or want the latest and greatest.
If the cpu is for cpu only things then I would agree somewhat based on job vs personal use.
More convince vs money imo.
You guys are dumb and have no clue what IPC is and think only core GHz means anything. Typical youtube comments.
gamerx9191 do the new chips work with 170 boards?
What I've learned today - 2017 is AMD's year
Frankie Dingleberry yup
Bruh, I am in the process of selling my i7 6700k. I don't even give a fuck anymore, selling my GTX 1070 as well. Ryzen SR8 (8 cores and 16 Threads) and Vega will be my new rig by summer time. I know it sounds risky but I live in Canada so it's cool (cause we live in igloos and AMD couldn't possibly set my igloo on fire).
hussein hussein how much are you selling the i7 for?
i7 6700k $200 and the gtx 1070 for $250.
$450 you could get a cpu and a gpu. You're pretty much getting the i7 for 70 bucks at this point.
Wow, Intel is actually trying to lock UHD? What the fuck?
Intel isn't the one locking it, HDCP is. It's not Intel's fault that this is the first processor to support a brand new HDCP layer. They just happen to be the first HDCP 2.2 product out. AMD and NVidia will be coming through with HDCP 2.2 support in their next hardware revision too.
I think more of the blame falls on Microsoft and Netflix. The intel part of the whole mess has to do with a hardware-based codec requirement. MS and Netflix are the ones locking UHD streaming to the Edge browser. Then again they are both data mining tech corps, so I'm not all that surprised they are using the privacy-sucking Edge/Windows 10 combination.
Your more pissed off about that then the fact that UHD is only supported on 7th Gen of Intel Processors when even my fucking smart ass 4K TV can do it
* Mind Blown *
my i7 940xm cpu laptop \can run 4k videos and my i7 5920k
4670k here. i think ill wait for cannonlake
nearly 4 years and only so damn little % of power gain....
the results of no competition in the market
You're going to have to wait until 2018 as when Cannonlake first launches, it's only going to be for mobile products for quite a while. In the meantime, Coffee Lake is meant to hold people over. It's an optimization of an optimization (Kaby Lake), but it's meant to bring 6 cores to the main desktop market, probably to compete with Ryzen.
4790k here, won't need an upgrade for a while! :D
lol 3770 and still not looking to upgrade, maybe cannonlake or a die shrink after that. Really want a m.2 ssd but it's still too early for me imo.
LOUD NOISES
I just watched your video! love your channel man XD
Bitwit lol
Looks like that Awesome Sauce Network guy. I wonder what happened to him.
I'M SO SCARED
WUT BREH?!
2500k for life I guess
But brah, you can get 5% better gaming perfomance, for just: new motherboard, new RAM and new CPU
Ow snap
Ryzen will be less costly on electric bill & also optimized for win 10 & other advance intelligent memory feature
Using a 2700k with no problems (x
No dont buy one of those i have a 3770k and i expierence bottlenecking on my gtx 1070.
I like how you did this video and the quick run down of what is different. I hope you do this type of format again for future products.
Excellent information Paul. Thank you.
So Kaby Lake is almost pointless. Performance is not that higher than the last gen. Only the price is higher.
Waiting for Zen I guess.
why wait for zen?.. its pretty obvious zen ISNT gonna match skylake let alone kaby
Pretty obvious? Could you please show some proof to what you say?
always happen with amd,most of their product end up dissapointing
What's the last AMD product that you bought?
Did you check any RX400 series review? Believe me, I'm not playing the fanboy part. I'm just concerned about the stereotypes going on, because it's a bad way of seeing things.
John Shay you were right haha
Wait, I might just be a little stupid, but he said the Z270 Motherboard will allow you to overclock the unlocked Kabylake processors. If I get the 7700K will my ASUS Sabertooth Z170 S motherboard be able to overclock it, or should I then just get a 6700K and be able to overclock it?
You can still overclock Kaby Lake or Skylake processors on Z-series chipsets -- so Z170 or Z270 will work for overclocking for Skylake or Kaby Lake. Main benefit of Z270 is more HSIO PCI-E lanes (+4), Optane support (confirmed only for 200-series boards so far), new features like the USB 3.1 front panel connector and better M.2 SSD configurations.
A question for dummies. I can put my last gen i7-6700k processeor into a new Z270 board and it will work??
Your Z170 will be able to overclock it, however you will likely require a BIOS upgrade for 7700K support.
Thanks for replies guys :)
You do need to update your motherboard bios before dropping in the new CPU.
Good God. The more I hear about Intel and Nvidia, the more I wish I went with AMD across the board. Fuck those companies.
Intrepid Nick What did Intel do? Like they did waited for AMD to catch up to their latest processors. Yes I do think Nvidia is horrible for copying AMD's technology and then making it 2x better.
King Midas Do you work for Intel or Nvidia? No? Well stop being a loyal bitch.
King Midas teenager pretty much sums it up
Actually Intel wouldn't give them the licensing, which is why AMD took so long creating, and trade marking their own Simultaneous Multi Threading technology @ Fzmh. After it was all said and done, AMD still sold them certain licences from their Radeon graphics. AMD's mantle also led to Vulkan which ended up influencing Microsoft to release Direct X12 with multi core scaling in mind for triple A titles.
AMD is a lot of things, slow, out dated, noncompetitive. One thing they are not though, is anti consumer.
What did Intel do?
Paul, I've been watching your vids since 2009. I've learned a lot from you guys
Thank you for the great and consolidated update on Kaby Lake! Much appreciated.
FREAKING LOVE YOUR EXPLANATIONS MAN!!!!!
This 4K locked to Kaby Lake is nonsense. Even a 5 year old laptop has more than enough processing power to stream 4k movies. This is the kind of shit that would get people to stop buying your products Intel/Netflix/M$...
It's not about performance, it's about hardware DRM.
Procrastinator7 It's not about that, it is about money
***** No, Kaby Lake comes with hardware to run encrypted software. That way they will close the decoding hole. The video decoder is delivered to your computer encrypted, it's run encrypted, the video stream is encrypted and every copy of every frame will be encrypted at all times and will be output on an encrypted HDCP connection. There will be no way to rip movies by dumping memory or anything as it will all be encrypted.
Procrastinator7 yeah i know, but who actually rips movies from netflix? And now if you want to watch Netflix in 4k you need a 7th gen CPU, money for Intel, the Edge browser= money for Microsoft, not to mention the rest of the conpanies involved.
***** I'm wondering what Netflix has to gain from all this. Surely they are losing money on people not upgrading to the 4k subscriptions, and why should they care if people are ripping Hollywood studios off?
Looking at your rig reminds me of Star Trek...
Nicely laid out video hitting the major points in an easy to digest format!
Sounds awesome! Thanks Paul, but it feels evertime I wanna get a new PC part there is a new CPU....FeelsIntelMan
Guess I'll keep my years old 4690k for a few more years lol.
Exactly. I'm not upgrading unless I go for the enthusiast level stuff
Chihuahua King just got a 4690k (cuz im on a budget) and there is like no differance kn proformance to my buddys 6600k
I mean don't get me wrong, I'm glad I don't have do buy a new cpu every year to keep up. I played pretty much everything on Ultra/Modded well above 60fps with this cpu and a 980 at 1080p.
Ivy Bridge to Kabylake, clock for clock, there's only a 0-10% difference in performance, which holds true for Sandy Bridge in most cases as well. The only gains you get each generation is pretty much in power efficiency, so no reason to upgrade at all.
Unless you were on an i7 920 like me :/
I got a MainGear Vybe that is going to be my next upgrade project. So considering one of these new cpu processors and motherboard combo's would be fun. I love building anything for fun. Perhaps I'll do a video of the whole reproduction.
Thanks Paul. This might be my only video for kaby Lake. I'll stick with my 4790k for now.
Great video, Thanks Paul!
great recap paul
I dont know why you need a 7700k, you can 4k edit video and film, 4k gaming, vr experience etc with a 6700k
Tomas Sviridovas you don't need one... Intel is weird now
what a retarded comment.
yeah but more "power" will come in handy, but yeah i agree
That's why you use an i7 6820k or 6900k.
As long as 4K blu-rays will work without Intel chips then I don't really care. I won't bother with 4K streaming until internet bandwidth is more consistent. I don't think I've ever even reached the advertised speed, day or night. *I've probably hit 40Mbps of the advertised 60Mbps.
If 4K blu-rays do not work without buying the new Intel chips then that'll basically cement my resolve to never buy Intel again. Exclusive deals don't help make things better. They screw over the customers.
one thing you need to know
wait for ryzen
Joe1up I'm really hoping for amd to challenge intels dominance over the cpu market, but everyone got on the hype train when people were saying the 400 series of amd gpus were going to be on par with nVidias 1000 series, so I'll pass on the hype train, but I am hoping amd can improve their ability to compete with ryzen.
Well, the RX 460 is better option than 1050/1050ti.
For just $20 more, you can buy the RX 470 for 1.5x better perfomance.
And the RX 480 as said by a lot of people, is better, and would be better, than a GTX 1060.
moparjr89 You're joking, right..?
gtx1050 is better then rx460
moparjr89 RX 460 is better than a 1050, since it's cheaper.
Also since nVidia clearly doesn't know how to price things properly, it costs only 20$ less than a RX 470, which is a huge jump in perfomance.
You're awesome Paul, thanks for the video man
man i was about sleep and then paul notify a new video about kaby lake. anyways good vid!
Can you tests the integrated graphics of the KabyLake chips?
Excellent info, I had forgotten what the magic intel memory tech was called. subbed
Hey paul, Thanks.
Really really hope ASUS brings out an updated Sabertooth board, completely in love with the Sabertooth S. Got my fingers crossed for a Z270 Sabertooth :D
I just finished a skylake build. And here comes Kaby Lake lol
lol me too i bought the i5 6500
Are there going to be changes that prevent users from watching TH-cam 4K content on Chrome without Kaby Lake?
these appear to be deals made with specific content providers (Netflix in this case), TH-cam is not included so 4K vids will still work streaming from TH-cam
these arseholes creating artificial restrictions need to be cock punched, repeatedly.
market forces people, work the system.
John Douglas Made me think of being punched by a chicken.
yah... this is like AMD SAVE US day!!
thanks Paul :)
Good job, thanks.
not release yet in my store here in phil. sort off, nice review then paul.
I have the i7 7700k since december 22th and is pretty Good, a store in my country already has it so i buoght it
As far as the Netflix 4k thing, Edge is the only browser that supports 1080p viewing, so its no surprise that this is the case. As for the HEVC, my understanding is that Kabylake has 10 bit whereas anything prior to this only has 8 bit. I could be wrong about that last bit though
Let's hope amd can compete this gen.
I love how each tech tuber iv'e watched so far all have different mobo's.
Cool video man.
i built a new pc yesterday and kaby lake comes today starting the new year off right
So many people bashing Intel. This isn't a new CPU it is an optimization of Skylake. Cannonlake, coming later this year, is an upgrade from Skylake.
Still loving my 3930K.
Thank God it uses the LGA 1151 socket. I don't want to pay for an expensive chipset (i.e. Z270).
Well, there is not much of a difference between skylake and kaby lake...
True
if you already have a 1151 cpu there is really no point upgrading to this
you should always upgrade ur motherboard when u replace cpu ....ALWAYS
Those Z270 boxes on the shelf in the background tho
already bought Avexir RAM might as well buy this LOL
Upgrading my build. My i7 970 was bottlenecking my GTX 1070 in VR, so going with the 7700k as my choice :-D
I think that Sata Express is considered a flop now, right?
I'm sticking with my 6700k !
I was just about to buy a 6700k, but is it worth waiting and getting the 7700k for a z170 motherboard?
What's the best sound card to go with those new motherboards
paul can you show how to update bios for z170 a for the kabylake prossers?
Amazing
Sorry if this is a n00b question, but I can't find figure out the answer: Are the additional 4 pcie lanes on the 200 series chipset available when using a 6700K on the new motherboards? Or are the additional lanes also CPU-bound as well?
What differences are there between the "Engineering Samples" of Kaby Lake vs actual retail boxed product? Are the confidential chips the creme de la creme, or what?
Current Z270 chipset or the X99? What would be better for photo/video productions?
I have one too! But its an Amd a10 7700k
To use the 3 M.2 slots for NVMe, will they require disabling 2 SATA ports for each of the 3 M.2 slots?
Fingers crossed after AMD's response prices get adjusted.
Le Sigh is right!
Man I just built my new stream and editing rig with the i7 6700k.
Sadness, its fine, WAIT TILL TIGERLAKE!
Will new kaby lake will work on GIGABYTE GA-Z170X-Ultra Gaming (rev. 1.0) ? Very curious to know thanks for all the helpful vid 👍🏼
I'm running on a core i5 6th gen.
I assume I don't need to upgrade?
Why does this Kaby Lake make it's way out now that I have finally build my dream Skylake -build in my head and I have the items in my cart ready for ordering?
I remember since like early 2000's I have been a fool for waiting for new innovation and always kinda "coping on" with my previous older PC build because I've been waiting for the next new big thing, and then usually when it comes up I still end up waiting for the next one. This went so far that I was gaming on an HD3850 card from 2008 until 2012... and now I am updating from my i5-3450, GTX660 setup to i7-6700K and 1060 6GB system...
or am I?
So if I'm not interested in optane, my current z170 board won't have any less performance with a 7700k than a z270 would?
so if z270 chipset have 8 pcie lanes, i can add 6700K and have 24 total ?
RE: optane ready
There's new instruction sets that need to be on the CPU to allow proper use of Optane. Since it's higher-latency than DRAM, but still similar speed it needs special architecture support for its new place in the product stack.
Though Optane technology could still end up in DIMM's and SSD applications, those applications rely on the existing DRAM/NVME/SATA architecture to communicate along, not just PCIe or memory bandwidth concerns.
The Netflix 4K thing is stupid.... Just grab a 4K TV with Netflix build in and you good.
I don't think the chrome cast has 4k functionality?
will the app do 4k on android?
Not currently optimized for anything post 1080p. Smart TVs are essentially the most affordable and arguably the more efficient way to go here.
so much for PCs being the more open, capable, and flexible platform.
ZX6R this entire premise ONLY APPLIES to Netflix. Skylake is capable of handling 4K but Netflix will not natively run on anything other than a Kabylake processor.
will the 7700k work in any 1151 socket motherboard or do you need a motherboard that specifically supports 7th generation processors
Paul, I agree that tick tock Intel line up was dead when Haswell came out but that's AMDs fault for little to no competition.
Hey Paul , should i replace the 4790k with this or nah ?
Here's your chance for a comeback, AMD. Don't blow it!!
Why a unlocked i3? Are they going to have a budget chipset for it?
Anatoli Ashgenazi no. so it is pointless
Still rocking a i7 2600 and don't feel the pressure yet. 4k stuff is neat I guess but besides that there is still no reason to upgrade
Cool !
I love how the next series is called 'Coffee Lake'... xD
What do I lose in performance when I use a Z170 Chip instead of a Z270?
Maybe we should wait for Tiger Lake?
so would it be possible to plug in 3 m.2 ssd's and still have chipset bandwith for some hdd's?
believe that wasn't possible on z170
Hey, I've got an i5-4690K on Z97 with DDR3. I'm bottlenecking the hell out of my 1080 and was wondering if saving for an i7-7700K would be wise. Considering I do nearly 4k video editing, I believe the increased performance over the i5 variant would benefit me. Also being similarly priced to Skylake for slightly better performance. If price wasn't a problem for me, what would your suggestion be? Get Kaby Lake now or get Skylake knowing better performance is out there for the same money? Or perhaps I should wait for Cannonlake which is rumored to be revealed in Q2 2017; right around the time I'm getting money for an upgrade?
if Kaby Lake is O.... what would the next one be if Ryan Shrout was right and they release an architecture next before coming out with 10nm?
I'm building a rig for a mate and he was going with a i5-6600 & a H170 motherboard, but the Sky lakes are all out of stock here in preparation for Kaby Lake. Would he be fine using the same motherboard but opting for one of the new i5-7600/7500 etc?
so if i wanted to, could i get a kaby lake for my z170 mobo without losing on any of the original skylake features?
What heatsink is that on the test bench?
But could I run on a Z170 board if the socket hasn't changed?
sry im kind of a noob at computers, but since kaby-lake also runs on the 1151 socket then will it still work with the z170 mobos?
I'm building my first pc. and I had my mind set on skylake 6700k but should I get the kabylake 7700k instead?
I searched on amazon but nothing. What is the release date?
I have a update from this exact date. My processor is a Kaby Lake thing core i5 vPro 7300u 2.60-2.71 ghz
Here I am stuck with this 6 year old AMD FX cpu wanting to build a new PC. Idk what to do at this point. Should I upgrade to the 7700k? Or wait to see how zen is? But who knows how long we'll be waiting for zen? :/
so if i want to build new pc, which one is better? or should i wait ryzen and cannonlake?
Wait for AMD, im Biased because i REALLY dislike intels and nvidias anti-consumer practices, whilst AMD being very pro-consumer.
ejuice - if you're a AMD fan than wait a bit. If you're a Intel fan than go with a i-5 6600k (skylake) perfect for gaming or if you do streaming while gaming or make content as well as game then go i-7 6700k (skylake) either of those two in a Z170 board will last you for at least 2 years before thinking about upgrading again. You can also run both those skylake CPUs in the new Z270 boards. That being said .. the Z170 boards are still new enough and great for gaming and overclocking so no reason to buy a z270!
I've always built my gaming machines with AMD processor. I've built 8 of them since 2005. This past month I decided to build my son a new gaming rig. He had a 990 board with a FX6300. The board wouldn't support a 8350 or any 8 series AMD processors. So after researching plenty into buying him a new board that would support the 8350 I realized it's either wait for ZEN or it's time to jump over to intel. I have no doubt the AMD Zen CPU will be a beast but at what cost and I had no time?!?! The current price for a i5 or i7 skylake is a bit high but paired with a Z170 board it's worth every penny! Plus they will both be future proof for sometime.
For his build I went with the i5 6600k, ASUS aura Z170 gaming board, and a MSI 1060 GPU and his system it blowing away a FX8350 we have.
This all coming from a AMD fan boy!
Hope it helps!
I will still be building a zen rig in the near future... I hope.
i got 8350 too. thanks for that man
Should I stick with getting the i5 6600k?
When will i3 7100 be released?
Should I buy 6100 or 7100 ?
So, if I pop in a kaby lake chip into my sky lake board will I be able to overclock it?
when will motherboards like h110 for skylake come for kaby lake like h210 supporting 2400 ram and updated bios
Hey Paul or anyone else,one out of topic question will Corsair vengence led fit with evo 212 in nzxt s340 case on MSI gaming Z170A-G45 gaming. Thanks in advance
Can't watch the video all the way through, but did Paul mention if I can I still use my i5 6600K on Z270 motherboards?
Can i use a z170 chipset with the new kaby lake processors?
You said something about this cpu coming out by this week. Is there any specific date told to you? If there is a date of when this cpu comes out, could you reply and tell me.