SNA 2023: Raytheon Tomahawk Block V, Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile, BAE Systems C-UAS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ม.ค. 2023
- Day 2 at the Surface Navy Association (SNA) 2023 National Symposium. In this video we cover the following topics:
00:38 - Tomahawk Block V land attack cruise missile with Raytheon
02:30 - Naval Strike Missile with Raytheon
05:08 - Naval Strike Missile with Kongsberg
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The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
It's been a mega year for Kongsberg!
It sure has!
I like how they are doubling production capacity. They maybe needed in the near future.
Next video about the Seaspider please!😉👍
So much demand for a system like NSM, Kongsberg is going to have to build a new production facility to satisfy that appetite! I'm curious how many they can pump out every year, I'm guessing no more than a thousand? Higher production numbers are in everyone's interest. It will lower cost per unit, increase availability and strategic deterrence (if you're able to make lots of missiles quickly, adversaries might think twice), and greater system maturity as it acquires new features based on an ever widening range of customer requirements.
They were contracted to build a new facility in Kentucky, I think, almost 3 years ago if I'm not mistaken, but i don't think they are anywhere close to producing anything. I was kind of surprised to hear that it doesn't seem they have yet been awarded a contract for either production or integration into the FFG-62 class, a ship which after being showcased for several years as the centerpiece for SNA is notably absent, as are recent congressional update reports ( which were a monthly thing until this year) on the program. I wonder if there are problems with the program beyond Fincantierrui basically having to force the navy to go with CAPTAS 4 after the US VDS program tanked.
Kongsberg Defence is actually building a new 25 000 square meter factory in Arsenalet, Kongsberg for added missile production. For completion in 2024.
@@espenha I wasn't aware of the planned Kentucky production line, interesting info, thank you. As for the new frigates, I know there have been a string of labor disputes at the Fincantieri Marinette yard over the past two years, mostly having to do with an undersized workforce and wage stagnation. I imagine that is playing a role.
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8:19 really nice to showcase the rws cannons since a lot of people ignore them. Other designs exclude them in brochures, scale models... When will they get not everything is about missiles. Asymmetric threats are growing, needing more autocannons, say at least 3 rws guns + 1 ciws gun, all distributed along the centerline. Not to mention the guns can be developed to include vshorad missiles at their sides
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So I guess the guidance package in Tomahawk is less sophisticated than in an ASM like NSM or LRASM?
Yes. Tomahawk can only hit fixed targets on land.
@@GowthamNatarajanAI Weren't they saying that Tomahawk 5A had seeker capabilities against 'targets at sea'?
@@PrimarchX It does. They added that capability in order to make it so that the navy would have a way to hit enemy ships at a long distance without having to make a whole new kind of missile.
@@GowthamNatarajanAI No, it can already hit moving targets at sea since it has Harpoon's active-radar seeker. They tested this with Block IV. Tomahawk Block Va just adds passive radar homing similar to LRASM.
No
The Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST) or TLAM Block Va, seeker is just as advanced as the NSM and LRASM
The critical difference is that the TLAM is nearly 4 times the weight of the NSM
The NSM lighter weight is why is its appealing
It easier to move around
Raytheon and Kongsberg should consider jointly develop a submarine launch variant of Naval Strike Missile (NSM).
There is a submarine launched NSM project already underway.
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As I understood it certain older versions of the Tomahawk use to have maritime attack capability but after the 4 Iowa class battleships, which were equipped with them, went into mothball that ability was discontinued and retired due to budgetary reasons. Block Va is going to be great because it will give the Burke flight II and III their anti-ship ability back and it will be Mark 41 VLS loaded which is currently not possible for LRASM and NSM. In fact I still don't understand why LRASM and NSM can't be loaded into the Mark 41?
Yeah I don't understand why these missiles never had it from the get go. Feel like I was giving the Tomahawk more capabilities then what it did have.
I do know we are doubling down on many new missiles.
By the way the Raytheon guy is horrible at marketing. He seems incredibly nervous and isn't really saying much about the capabilities.
LRASM technically can be VLS launched with a booster although it’s not being pursued by the USN.
Guys help me understand ..there is a costal anti'ship defence batery whit tomahawk missile that they want ro export?
The Tomahawks are for naval vessels, surface & submarine. The Kongsberg NSM is capable of being fired from a shore battery.
@Ian McSherry thank you clarifying this for me ..I thought this is only destined for naval use only , never saw it as a coastal defence sistem/operational battery sistem ..what range does this have ? I am romanian so it is a curiosity for me as the city that I live in is much closer to Crimea than my capital so just a curiosity nothing more to it!
@@roko9419 nsm has 100 nautical miles range, The block V has a 1800km range.
I wonder how these coastal batteries are getting their targeting?
日本もトマホーク導入の話がありますから､注目ですね。This is worth noting. Japan will also introduce the Tomahawk.
Indeed. We will try to cover this in March, at DSEI Japan
@@NavalNews Thank you very much.
#3.5M per unit in the contract of 1800.. the cost needs to be reduced by a factor of 20-50X if large scale use is anticipated
Could the NSM/JSM be launched via a VLS?
JSM yes I think
The Naval Strike Missile is considerably lighter than the TLAM
Ironically 2 TLAM are nearly the same weight as NSM coastal missile defense system truck fully loaded with 4 missiles
Hence why it more appeal to most than the TLAM
The Block 5 Tomahawk is not really a competitor with the NSM. Both have very different roles and capabilities.
TLAM has ten times the range of NSM. Four NSMs don't go four times as far.
Not only do the TLAMS have a huge range advantage over the NSM they have a huge advantage in terms of warhead. Its warhead is nearly 4 times larger.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 Alright someone who seems to know what they are talking about.
So the older tomahawk missiles didn't have the capability of anti ship actions? I guess it was only used for ground static targets or when hitting a moving target it was guided in by (forward observers, drones, other assests?)
@@dianapennepacker6854 There was an anti ship variant of the Tomahawk in the late 80's. I believe it was withdrawn from service in the early 1990's. Its sensors were not sophisticated enough to discriminate civilian and military targets at such long ranges. Also once fired they were not able to be retargeted so the Navy decided to withdraw them from service and convert them to the land attack standard. Jump ahead to more recent times and the new block 4 Tomahawk, advanced sensors allow for the missile to discriminate between a merchant ship and a war ship. It will have the ability to be retargeted in mid flight. It can accept data links from aircraft like the F-35 which will provide course correction and target data. The new ASM variant of the Tomahawk will be deadly to just about any surface ship it strikes. Only the largest of surface combatants will be able to survive more than one or two hits. Even those will still more than likely be mission killed.
I guess the chances for Seabreaker is if its price is cheaper than NSM; if both US & Norway reject export to certain countries; if US & Norway permits exports but restrict NSM's use & end up being unacceptable to the potential customer; if the customer needs range at least 300 km or at least longer than NSM's
Norway holds the IP for the NSM, so it is entirely up to them who buys it. Raytheon partnered with the Norwegian company, because Raytheon did not have a anti-ship missile to compete with the Boeing made Harpoon-ER in the US Navy's competition.
As far as the land based launcher system (not the missile): I think that is a US IP, because the USMC paid whomever for the R&D for that part of the project.
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Tomahawk must be over 50 years on the market?
no SM-6?
SM6 has been out for many years. The countries that wanted (all in the Pacific) already buy it.
Europeans don't want it and are developing their own long range ship based missiles.
@@willw8011 Im asking why they didn't ask for updates on SM-6? SM-6 should be undergoing ap production increase as well as there being a new variant under development
@@sevrent2811 He is just covering the things on display at the trade show. Raytheon's salesman is not going to know anything about what R&D is doing for SM6.
Raytheon is trying to make the SM6 an interceptor for ballistic missiles to cover a range gap between SM2 and SM3. It probably is not going well, because Lockheed is trying to take that business with putting PAC3 in VLS.
Come on Greek Government !! Wake up and buy Kongsberg NSM !!!!!
Not unless the Greek Gov can get attractive loans to finance it.
The French Gov insisted that Greece buy Exocete, as a package deal included in the new Frigates, to keep export revenue within French Companies.
Norway's Govt rarely promotes Defense exports deals.
@@agactual7901 Exactly... but also.. all weapon manufacturers want to sell and make money... And Greece always finds money for weapons! The problem is that our politicians take a big cut in there pocket.. Corruption is the national sport! We are following our forefathers footsteps ..The Byzantines !
It's sad but true..
Greece is getting Execet on its new ships.
@@leftycosta1899 Yes I know.... Still I like to dream... I would like if we buy NSM on trucks and in fright containers...
@@leftycosta1899 Greece was the first client of the Exocet MM38 in 1970. One day later the French Navy order also the new missile...
Since then Greece bought all new models. After the Hellenic Navy our Air-force got the Air to ship version...
When speaking of being ready for China, everyone needs atomomas missiles. We also need hypersonic missiles.
No one needs hypersonic missiles. We need missiles with huge range that can hit moving and static targets.
I'll take 100 super long range missiles over 1 hypersonic missile too.
@dianapennepacker6854 The why is the U.S. building them. Only a hypersonic middle can kill a reentry warhead. We need the same. Mass numbers of missiles that exit then reenter. Chine will destroy our ship and aircraft in a in theater engagement.
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After 3 days of SNA, i see nothing new, and overall seems like a sad scaled down version of earlier SNA events. By and large the product reps seem either drunk , uninformed or unengaged, not impressed with what these US companies have sent to SNA, seems like a dying trade show with little to get excited about. Makes US Naval weapon and system development seem stagnant.
Tomahawk was already amazing in the Iraq gulf war (1991), imagine how much it's improved now 32 years later
Those Tomahawks used in Desert Storm were primitive compared to what is used today. They only had INS and ground mapping for guidance. They could not fly over flat, trackless land because there was no features to locate by. So they had to route them over hilly terrain with objects like buildings and towers so it could reference itself. The route became so predictable that the Iraqis set up AAA sites along the way to shoot them down. Now we have GPS and other tech to allow it to make it to any target via any terrain.
Bring back nuclear capable tomahawks. You can bet that our adversaries do.
Yes I agree
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Best physical trial of this weapon would be for it to be used to take out the Russian Black Sea fleet
Are much better Russian model KALIBR
NSM is too short ranged, and too slow. If you're going to be high subsonic you should have longer standoff range. To be slow and short ranged is kinda pointless. And for coastal defense, if I had a 500-1500nm cruise missile, why would I pull up within NSM range?
To land and support troops, maybe? Or maybe to pass through straights? Or to resupply? Polands NSM batteries can strike the Russian baltic fleet in port in Kaliningrad.
Ask the Moskova's captain.
On islands in Pacific, nsm could be easier to drop off with marines to hunt Chinese ships that are 100 nautical miles away.
@@Wick9876 That was stupid to be that close when you have a long range cruise missile. And the Black Sea is nothing in expanse like the south china sea. 110nm is not that far at sea.
Whoa thats the range? Figured newer missiles would have more.
It is all about stand off range I thought. I do know the Navy and AF are both investing in standoff weapons.
Why risk getting in so close... Then again maybe it's just for the smaller litoral type ships who operate near coastal waters.
Well, I guess this means kaput for Putins 'maskirovka...
The music is terrible.