The Saab 9-3 Carlsson was an Underrated Unicorn
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Today I discuss one of the rarest and arguably most collectible and sought after modern Saabs: the 9-3 Carlsson. It has many distinct and unique attributes to it, so find out what makes it so unique in the video! Thanks for watching :)
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Couple other things I'd like to add:
-the Carlsson was only available for the UK market
-came with certain Hirsch pieces, such as the spoiler, diffuser, leather dash, etc
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Saab 93 is a Underrated race car
I'm a proud owner of a 93 carlsson
The rear spoiler and diffuser on the Carlsson in this video is made by Hirsch performance and not by Saab. Hirsch was factory tuner for Saab, something like Alpina for Bmw. The interesting part is that they used the same front bumper from Turbox for Carlsson and the same titan grey grill trim, but they did not use the front lip.
Thanks for the info; I was unaware
There is a white Carlsson in a dealership in Northern Ireland near me with around 60,000 on the clock and going for just under £17,000, awesome car!
wow nice
I have a white one too; it's Hirsched to the teeth :-)
Amazing video. Erik carlsson said "Im really happy to have such a great car named after me" and also I would own a turbo x cause its manual. Its cool that you mentioned that the wheels are actually silver. I found that by searching for hours.
Yeah, it's different, but I think it still like the two tone TX wheels best
The 900 Carlsson is one of the best looking cars ever made. Its one of my dream saabs.
It's quite awesome!
Erik Carlsson was a really odd guy. Always very earthbound and a pleasant guy. Never really lost his connection to Trollhättan were he came from. He was one of the few contacted driver for the Saab competion section (probably the smallest car marker rally stable).
Some of his acheivements:
1955 1st in the Rikspokalen in a Saab 92
1957 1st in the 1000 Lakes Rally in a Saab 93
1959 1st in the Swedish Rally in a Saab 93
1959 1st in the Rallye Deutschland in a Saab 93
1960, 1961, 1962 1st in the RAC Rally in a Saab 96
1960 2nd in the Akropolis Rally in a Saab 96
1961 17th in Canadian Winter Rally in a Saab 96
1961 4th in the Monte Carlo Rally in a Saab 95
1961 1st in the Akropolis Rally in a Saab 96
1962, 1963, 1st in the Monte Carlo Rally in a Saab 96.
1962, 7th in East African Safari Rally in a Saab 96
1963 2nd in the Liège-Sofia-Liège Rally in a Saab 96
1964 1st in the San Remo Rally (Rally dei Fiori) in a Saab 96 Sport
1964 2nd in the Liège-Sofia-Liège Rally in a Saab 96
1964 2nd in the East African Safari Rally in a Saab 96
1965 2nd in the BP Australian Rally in a Saab 96 Sport
1965 2nd in the Akropolis Rally in a Saab 96 Sport
1967 1st in the Czech Rally in a Saab 96 V4
1969, 3rd in Baja 1000 in a Saab 96 V4
1970, 5th in Baja 1000 in a Saab 96 V4
Wish I could’ve seen him race! That would have been cool
...just bought the 2011 9.3 XWD Hirsch artic white 118,000km...picking it up this week end...totally bliss !
congrats.
Did you say that only the Carlsson and the Turbo X had eLSD in the 9-3? If so that's incorrect. All 2009 Aero XWD were eLSD cars as well, as well as 2010-2011 Aeros, and 2010-2011 9-3x.-- for US spec cars.
Saab Dr at least i Europe, as far as I know, the eLSD was an option on both the 9-3 and 9-3x. The Turbo X and the following 9-3 TX models (with XWD) was the only ones who had it as standard.
@@jeppem5008I have the chart for US spec cars in front of me and it specifies as I listed above. It's tough to do videos when you're talking about an EU spec only car as the Carlsson and you're a US based creator. He didn't specify so I should give the caveat that I listed the US specs on the cars -- so my apologies for not specifying.
I edited my response, thanks for the info -- I'm always learning new things about EU cars.
Saab Dr Intresting for me aswell, I wasn’t aware of that it was standard on the US cars. Thanks to you aswell.
I thought the eLSD was limited to the TX and a few other models; didn't know it was that widely used. Apologies!
Friend had a turbo x and also a v6 vert, I've been in both.
He sold the turbo x in favour of keeping the tuned v6, which was incredibly rapid.
Out of the two, I agree with him
V6 tuned over turbo x.
They’re the same motor in both cars lol
Prefer Carlsson. But I'm biased because I own a black one.
As stated in another comment Uk only car.
Interior also had Hirsch leather dash and door handles as standard
You're quite lucky!
I actually have a set of 19" Carlsson wheels in My Yellow Saab 9-3
No way!
I have a choice of turbo x or carlsson. Undecided which to buy. Any advice most welcome
I've seen a grey carlsson here in UK love the exhaust note also seen one turbo x in a dealership near me
Cool!
I'll stick with my manual Turbo X. Jet Black Metallic is breathtaking, the exhaust tips and rear spoiler look better, and it celebrates Saab innovation (the turbo and XWD) rather than just a Saab rally driver. I definitely wouldn't mind a Carlsson though lol. Turbo X will always be my love lol, along with the 9-7x, as strange as that sounds to some.
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I will choose the Carlson since it has better interior like
Different seat cover and seat control buttons, which they much better quality.
Bigger side mirrors.
Better seats leather.
Bigger wheels.
The rear diffuser is similar to Hirsch performance style.
It has has all the options except for the sun roof.
Fair point; the nicer interior gives it a step up on the TX
What’s the most common color for the 9-3 because I researched the common color for the NG 9-5 and it’s silver like mine
Idk. I think black white or the green
The problem with the Carlson is there is nothing unique. Isn't it just a white turbo x. ? How about the Giffen?
I agree. Silver for the 9-5. My 2008 9-5 is the Snow Silver Metallic and it still looks fresh. I never liked the 9-5 in black, but black on the 9-3 looks great. I also like the the Titan Gray Metallic. I wish that SAAB would have offered a pure, bright white. The Polar White always seemed a bit dingy. Worst color? Pepper Green Metallic.
My favorite color that was available for the 9-3 was black, silver and that orange on the Limited edition 9-3 Independence Edition
www.esaabparts.com/saab/production/data/ is an excellent resource. It looks like just plain black is the most common
I'm from the UK - I'd rather own a Carlsson. They're very rare and I've never seen one on the road, whereas I do see the TurboX from time to time.
Maybe one day I'll be lucky enough to have one.
nice
I don't give a shit, i just want a Saab 95 2010-11 model
then buy one!
@@AutoAutopsy
of course You know i am✌ I love your Saab channel bro
Ive actually seen one on the road, altough i didnt know what it was so I just thought that he had put the Carlsson logo on the back. Its a fairly common last name here in Sweden so..
Really! Quite cool
Have you seen one in Sweden?
A few fast facts on the 9-3 Carlsson:
>Only available on the Aero trim
>Sold only in the U.K.
>Priced at £26,495 ($33,812)
Yep! Apologies for not mentioning the UK only bit
Ur good :)
I own a carlsson and I absolutely love it! Mine is number 65 of 96
I'm jealous! Nice!!
@@AutoAutopsy I can forward you some pics at some point if I can :)
@@ryanbarratt837 please forward pics...and I'll do the same after picking it up this w-end
Nice video, i did not now about the model, but after doing some research and read a few articals writen in Swedish it seams that it was Only made for the UK market. I can not say for sure tho but sadly i guess that would make it only avalible with righthand steering. Lets hope not, my lastname is Carlsson, would be quiet nice to have one. I have to say i rather go with the turbo x tho. The color and the back off the turbo x is something else 😍
It was only made for the UK! Apologies for not mentioning that
9-3 Carlson is in the Saab museum and I remember that was the last Saab manufactured by anna, the site saabunited collect the money from all the Saab comunity...
Cool!
I had 19’’s on my Turbo X Wagon
nice, very rare
That Saab sounds great
Thanks!
@@AutoAutopsy I had a 1999 Saab 9.3 2L .when I was living in az actually I wanted to meet up to you to actually see your Saab. I have few videos when I did an acceleration test when I put an cold air intek. But never did anything else .I really enjoyed that saab.
great job
Thanks!
Ok ok ok ok ok. So at the end of my street in the UK is an 09 Turbo X. However we went to the local store the other night and there was a white 93 with those Turbo X wheels. I put it down to him just Liking the wheels, now I need to go back in daylight to see if this is a Carlson.
Sounds like there's a really good chance it is!
My grandad owns his car it’s 1 of 96
Talk about the limited parchment vert sometime plzzzzzzz. That car is just beautiful in the parchment
I'm not sure what you're referring to?
@@AutoAutopsy Saab 93 parchment convertible
There’s one for sale at the moment here in the U.K. 12,000 miles 2010 model £16,000
wow!
Interesting. It’s sorta like a counterpart to the Turbo X
most definitely!
What's rattling on your car
Sounds like mike/connection, sortta like the Go-Pro falling off.
Sounds like the heat shield for the exhaust
If its that intermittent "rattle," it's from the RODE mic. Not sure what's wrong with it :(
Just luv it when I'm right. Doesn't happen very often. @@AutoAutopsy
Looks like you forgot to add the poll? either way My choice would be the Carlsson... only because i don't know how to drive Manual 😅 if i knew how to drive Manual I'd probably pick the TurboX. So yeah it only coming in Automatic is the decisive point like you mentioned
Super easy to learn tho and you'll never forget it. It's like riding a bike. You won't regret it
My bad on the poll!
Jacob Nilsson I know, I've seen some videos of people teaching their girlfriend so i know the principals behind it "clutch in, go into gear, slowly let off clutch while slowly giving some gas until you feel it grab then let off clutch completely" I just need to get around to trying it or getting a manual car
Murmansk ,Saab 9,5 2001 2.0 5 st. super awto !
What a cool car!!
Right?
I have a 9-5 from 2004, wicked car as well!! Yep up the good work! ;-) @@AutoAutopsy
I want to visit. The Saab museum any address... salute from Rome Italy :-)
Hello!
On the /r/saab aswell? I just found out about it there.
I have not been on there!
hey auto autopsy i have changed my battery and spark plug and the still had a bad cold start its takes 2 tries or more for the car to start what do you recommend me to do or to chek at a mechanic
Could be the connectors to the battery, especially if they're corroded.
Auto Autopsy i dont think it is and also the car has 165k km
I'm looking at a 2010 Carlsson, 56k on the clock, guy wants £13,000 I'm thinking it's a good deal.
With that mileage, definitely sounds fair to me! Although I am no expert on prices for non-US Saabs haha
The poll did not pop up for me..... I would vote for neither, I like Mopar. But, if I had to choose, I suppose I could be forced to drive the turbo x as opposed to the obscure other choice
OOps, forgot to add it :/ sorry!
For me - Turbo X... 6 speed man. kind of suits better sportiness of the 9-3 2.8 engine...
agreed
Come and see a REAL 9000 or 900 Carlsson, not this run-out desperate-for-money effort from GM before SAAB plummeted from the cliff they built for themselves. The first one I saw was parked up at Abbott Racing, for its second replacement Haldex unit. This was a fairly low mileage car and second warranty replacement claim. I was told the last one was >6K GBP. That didn't endear the thought of owning one to me. As an owner of the 'original' Carlssons, I was less than impressed and still cuss SAAB to this day that they belittled the Carlsson badge for something so mundane and underwhelming. Now, had they made it a twin turbo over-bored 2.8 V6 pushing 350 BHP from the factory - as a Carlsson badge would have merited, then I might have had a different opinion...
This is a bad take.
@@AutoAutopsy Not certain what you mean. I would suggest your view (and others) that the Turbo X was a better car is valid. You can dress a pig up with a hat and lipstick, but it's still, sadly, a pig... ;)).
Nevertheless, respect for taking this subject on at arm's length and I'm glad you are pushing to support the brand and us 'oldies'...
an unmodified 6speed feels like shit ... id rather have the auto over the 5spdMt but i hear the mounts , short throw and improver mods help a lot
Lol, I would wholeheartedly disagree
carlsson is swedish :)
the car itself was sold in britian, that's what i'm saying
I so wish you would do a proper homework before making such videos, because then that's a shame for a community that even a sort of known saab youtuber does not make the facts clear and info is not straight. Moreover if you're member of dozens groups on Facebook to be able to ask and prepare, and also have a Carlsson owner as a fan of your channel.
Carlsson was only made for UK market (therefore all the cars are there and nowhere else), that's where Mr. Erik lived the rest of his life when moved out of Sweden. It was less a SAAB model than a importer made model / modification (fans will know from older days like Enduro, Red Arrow, Wimbledon, etc). It was a fully optioned Aero with added Hirsch stuff to it, inside and out.
So not including two minor facts about the car makes this video poor? Do something better, thanks.
I agree with @@AutoAutopsy I think he does a phenomenal job for most of us regular people, all while driving a car! So he stumbles a bit, big deal. The old axiom applies, don't believe everything you see & hear in the media. That is also why there are open "Comments", so we can all learn.
I'll also add, I'm in New Zealand, & I am willing to bet, that our market versions are very different from MOST of your market versions. So, for me, it's interesting to see & hear about alternatives.
@@AutoAutopsy sure we appreciate you being a saab youtuber, young man with a dead car brand and even making videos of it, perfect. But information provided should really be of some value. There are not enough good resources for general public maybe and then those who are mainstream resources for masses, like you become, having wrong info in is kinda sad. Moreover since we know you can Google well and ask community because you don't lack people that know stuff among your fans.
"minor" facts is not really what that was. You mentioning you wanted some to film in person, that probably all are in Europe... It is clear at the time you had no understanding of what that car is. Importer specific only for UK and with full Hirsch optical options, etc. Whole thing would make more sense if the preparation would be just better (or actually right, opposed to this). I am more than 100% sure that people would help you with the content and fact checking (maybe more like facts providing) if you wanted them to. We don't need another resource of misinformation about saabs. There's plenty of them.
I like some of the work you do, I don't like some as well. You obviously don't want people to say their opinion, unless it's positive :)
You sound mad about nothing....