BMW R1200GS vs. Honda Africa Twin Long Ride Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2017
- We put the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin against the BMW R1200GS to find out which one is the best. A conventional review was out of the discussion, so we went on a trip. A trip to Montenegro on these two big ADV bikes, the R1200GS and the CRF1000L Africa Twin.
Highways, narrow mountain roads, b-roads, off-road, we've experienced them all in our search for a winner. We've enjoyed some breathtaking views on these two beautiful bikes, but in the end, we had to pick a winner.
So, which one is your favourite? The BMW R1200GS or the HONDA CRF 1000L?
Cristian Predoi - Editor
Bogdan Buleandra - Editor
Ion Ivana - Videographer
Adi Popescu - Video editor
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For sure the best (and funny) review that I ever saw!
Good job guys!
I had GS lc 2014. Fantastic bike.
From last year I have new Africa (manual mode).
If I can choose now between Africa twin and Bmw gs lc, for sure I will choose Africa!
Why?
1. I'm not enough rich for BMW. (Honda is much cheaper on beginning, as well spare parts and maintenance).
2. Africa has amazing balance
3. Reliability of Honda.
4. Lovely sound and smooth clutch of Africa.
5. I don't need much electronics like Bmw offering. Just abs is more than enough.
I had on BMW 5,200km and now on Africa 11k - definitely I will choose Africa!
(anyhow, still think that gs is amazing bike and always feel excited when see it on the road. Just: Africa is my choice)
Cheers to all ❤️🏁
Your dealer will probably pass out if you try to order one, but you can get a GS minus most of the electronic goodies and fancy things they order most with, including the Dynamic Suspension and for a lot less money. However, you quickly find there are things like Cruise Control you might want and then you start adding the packages to get them and the price shoots back up again - but if you have the self control, a much more basic bike is available. Apparently most want the "bells and whistles" because bikes without the details are hard to sell used, whereas out of warranty I might like the more basic model with much less to go wrong.
Marko Ristic as
Hi, how do you feel about the comfort of seating for long distance between these two bike?
bmw is not for everyone keep that in mind 😉
This channel produces great videos!!! Keep them coming!! Thank you.
As well as being entertaining and informative, this is really well shot and paced. You guys are stars.
I've the VFR 1200 X, which is more like the GS than the Africa Twin. The Africa Twin is more comparable to the F850 and is very easy to handle in the dirt, if you get the DCT version.
So far I owned 3 BMW's incl. the boxer. Every one of them had some technical quality issues, before reaching 40'000 km. I didn't keep anyone of them for more than 2 years. They required to many costly repairs on the gear boxes and electronics. BMW's are great fun to drive and have excellent engines, however they do not last. Stay away from all the latest models which have not been for at least 2 years on the market or you will be participating in an involuntary BMW beta testing program.
On my VFR, I just clocked 40'000 km. It still runs like new. It has same cylinder head OHC (no VTEC) design as Africa Twin (just 4 cylinders instead of 2). Honda has perfected it over decades in cars (Civic) and several bike engines. It is so reliable, that the first valves check is not required before 80'000 km. Engine and the drive train is designed to lasts 300'000 km. There is a guy in Austria, who has made 600'000 km on his Honda Varadero and so far another 200'000 on an Africa Twin. None of the bike engines required any repairs or had to be rebuild. Even the DCT on the Twin runs after the 200 k like new.
Thank you so much, I got a 2007 fireblade instead of an R1200GS twice its price and Blade rode like a dream for 3 years now getting older and need more of a touring stance, have the Yamaha XT600 after crashing my 2010 S1000RR and Sold my Blade and 2009 R1 along side the remaining bits of the S1000RR (which crashed because of electrical sensor failure) Now almost got caught in buying another R1200GS but your comment is a good slap back to life....Oh did I mention that the GS I let go and got my blase had the classic front fork failure and almost killed the owner.....so I shop for a Honda thank you
Isn't the VFR 1200 a street bike ?
@@richardshort4587 theres adv version also
@@technitroengineering1768 buy the oil/air cooled one, it lasts forever.
Another ENVY of GS. In italy the honda crosstourer 1200 is a bike of 5000 euro of value. From always. A Ct 1200 (280kg of bike 🤣🤣🤣) of 3 years with 10000km has less value of A GS OF 2004 WITH 150000KM. In sintesy, A GS you will sell ALWAYS. A CT NO. NOBODY WANTS IT. Is a boat bike, too heavy, too consume of Gas. Africa twin is a bike for child
I love my AT & I would say your review and comparison was accurate and honest. Thank u guys great vid!
The two of you are polite and charming. Great video project! It was worth the effort. Please do more long ride reviews like this. It's the purest way to review and compare bikes.
Love the videos and the presentation style. Very 'man in the street' style without trying to be too 'correct'. It's refreshing to have honest views vs overly hyped 'sold out' presenters. Keep up this style lads !!! It's a breath of fresh air for all of us motorcycle fans out here !! :-D
Great vid guys!!! Glad it's in English, too. You just earned yourself a subscriber!
You guys are great! Finally picking up a new crf1000l2 tommorow. Your videos helped a lot!
Great video, guys. Well edited. Was a pleasure to watch. A great advert for road trips and adventure riding. Like your analysis. The aerial views and impressive landscapes made it almost like being along for the ride. Also, good choices of music that fitted in well. Good job!
I had the same problem in deciding which bike. Ultimately went with the BMW F800GS. Africa Twin vs. F800GS would make a great video too.
Great production quality, well done guys! Keep up the good work :)
Thank you!
I alwasy love your reviews! Great filming, and fun reviews! I hope to travel to Europe to ride like this one day! Keep it up, your'e quickly becoming one of my favorite channels! I just bought a new FJ 09, but am pretty sure my next bike will be a GS in a couple of years!
Guys, your reviews are perfect and are the best on TH-cam. They are very accurate and honest! Cheers from Brazil!!!
Excellent video - great sound and editing, good balance between the ride and the space you ride in. great job.
The Eastern Europe version of Ari Henning and Zack Courts! Wonderful video. Beautiful cinematography. Interesting technical discussions.
Great review, thanks! Loved the drone work and your in-depth impressions of both.
Thanks.
I will take the honda. No doubt.
Same here experience of Honda in bikes is insane.
Me too
Me too I like the f…ing monster 😁 BUT NOT DCT
Greetings from Portugal!
Loved the review, very honest, nice humor and very well edited!
As for the bikes, both are amazing on their own way as you said. Personally, I'd go for the Africa Twin! (Waiting for a black one actually).
Great video, among the best on the subject. Thanks.
Most beautiful and comprehensive review about these bikes.. love you guys😘
Great video guys! I love the DCT - I tried it once at a cross tourer. Just perfect!
Keep up the good work!
Great video gentlemen! Your comparisons of both bikes are very real-world! I think your summary is very good, as each bike offers different appeal. I'm personally a GS guy, but the Honda is a wonderful bike that impresses with it's feeling of lightness and handling off-road. Thank you for your professional overview!
Excellent film/ test of bikes. Love the passion put in to your tests. Stunning scenery.
Great review and excellent camera work !!
Very good reviews...great photography. Thanks for sharing that. I've really got to get back over to Europe...miss it so much!
Thank you for a great review!
Great job, guys. A very inspiring video shot in great locations! Thanks...
Super professional review! Congratulations from Brazil!
Excellent video fellas. Amazing scenery!
You were in my country-Montenegro. Too bad I saw this video late.
Thank you for this lovely video captions!!
Guys you are great!
The star of this video was farmer sitting like a boss at home.
Badass guy. Drinking a turkish coffee and enjoying the sunset.
@@DriveMagRiders Keeping low key cause he has a chopped Hog in the shed.
Great production, nice presentation! Keep up the good work. Greedings from Greece.
Fantastic video !!! Keep going guys !
You guys do great reviews!
wow! makes me wanna ride around Montenegro soon. nice review also!
Great video. Great analysis, no bias or BS. Thank you.
Thank you for a very well done video. I just love the concept of a motorcycle video that shows actual motorcycles. So many just show a talking head with a wall in the background. This video is a true work of art. Stunning, beautiful and informative. I hope other TH-cam videographers watch and learn from this one!
Thank you so much for the feedback.
Great camera work and editing!
Hi from Montenegro! Awesome job guys! Great video.
Very good video. Good job by the camera crew and the hosts!
Guys...great work....top vid.... lovely scenery and good analysis!
Great review, another destination on my bucket list....
Some excellent photography and editing.
Excellent vid guys, well done!
Awesome video guys, really detailed, loved it.
Great show good info without been boring thanks guys 🤘🏽😎
African Twin for the win .
Hello From FRANCE with ADV 990S. Great video because finally a real true comparative test done! MERCI
Great review. Helped me plenty!
Excellent review. Thanks Guys.
So you guys come of out of nowhere and make the best bike comparison and touring video I have ever seen. Amazing. And I sure hope that the Montenegro tourist board is paying you a decent fee.
Good work and very nice video, guys, thank you a lot! I like this bikes both, but i was driving only GS1200. Amazing motorbike! Now i want to try the Africa Twin! :) Hi from Belarus! ;)
Excellent review -- very informative and well balanced, with lots of good tech details but also nice subjective discussions too! Beautiful scenery too. Thanks!
Well done. Good video and thorough review.
great job, love your videos
I just bought an Africa twin
Great info and video guys
Thanks from Toronto Canada
Cheers
Thank you, Richard. Have fun with your new bike!
Great review guys.
Top Review Guys, Like your style!
Thanks, Richard. Don't forget to subscribe.
Bravo for the video and for the honest test. Greetings from Serbia.
great job! It was nice to come back to these places virtually. see you on the road. Greetings from Poland !
Thanks for this excellent review.
Great video guys!
Great video... I really like the personal takes on the bikes and the production style. You guys are so lucky to be able to ride on such beautiful places. I hope someday I'll be able to ride in a similar adventure. These kinds of videos inspire me more. Keep it up!!!
Thank you for the feedback, Carlo. As for the inspiration, well, that's exactly what we're trying to do here, so start planning your trip! ;)
Great job! Cool review
Gorgeous video and places. Thanks!
great review guys. what a wonderful and beautiful place. keep up the good work. best of luck from scotland.
Thank you! Hope to visit your country soon. We heard that you have some fabulous scenery over there.
great video..i was surprised on the pick between them at the end..
Seriously a very good test, nice production and very well comment from both of you. Keep up doing this great Video. And what wonderful countries. Greetings from Germany.
Beautiful work mates!
Great video review 👍👍
Outstanding video!! You guys did a great job with the bike comparison and the road trip was through some awesome country!!
Good job guys, nice video!
Very nice review! Thanks
Thanks for the very good review and the fantastic scenery,
Great for you guys, did you have a great ride so plesent. Happy, thanks.
Nice and honest review well done.
Nice review and I am happy that it is in Europe with Europeans. Nice storyline, edit and shots. I recognise a lot from during my motorbike VLOG. Keep up the good work!
Va salut din Belgia (da un Belgian care a invatat limba Romana) :)
great video! excellent comparison
Brilliant... thanks so much guys, respect from Italy.😎👍🏻
Nice video, nice bikes, nice quality footage overall, and the landscape...amazing. Greetings from Galicia, Spain.
One important difference for me as I was learning to ride a large ADV bike, is that the GS boxer engine leaves you a space behind the engine cylinders for your legs, so if you drop it on its side, you won't break you leg or get trapped under 600 lbs of vehicle. You can slide out from under in uninjured, pick it up and keep going. That's one of the untold advantages of a boxer engine.
DARIVS ARCHITECTVS and if u drop and crack your cycling head u won't be happy
They do sell engine bars, without which the AT's get damaged very easily also.
The bike also doesn't go right on it's side in a low speed crash due to the cylinders so is much easier to pick up.
You guys, the videos are awesome! Getting better and better! I actually testdrove the GS and AT (dct) last week and bought the gs rallye because of the electronic fidgets and performance in the twisties, waiting for delivery now:) so really cool to see this video ,keep up the good work
We're really glad you liked it. And wow, you must be so excited for your new ride! Have fun with that GS!
Bro how was your experience on gs. Pls explain
M from india..
Have a plan to buy a bike.
Gs/ twin/ tiger 1200
Great well done video inspired me to ride the region Thanks!!
Hey guys, I really like your comparison, and the unexpected but fair conclusion. Beautiful bikes, beautiful scenery. Thanks.
Good review. As you say, if it's a highly-featured asphalt performer you are looking for and you have the money, you're a GS man but if you want something simpler, lighter and more affordable with superior offroad capabilities, the Africa Twin is it. The manual version is lighter and even more affordable btw.
You guys are very good, funny and your English is great considering its probably your second language. An excellent assessment again!
Zeer mooie vergelijking van deze 2 motoren, fantastic review, en mij lijkt het een eerlijk antwoord betreffende de 2 verschillende motoren, Top!!
Thank you guys! It help me so much...
Great job it will help me make my decision.
Awesome work!
Thank you guys for your honest opinion. I my self currently have a Kawasaki KLR 650 but I need more power so I am looking to purchase an Africa Twin. This review solidifies my decision. Thank you.
Really like your videos
Very good review!
Amazing review ❤️
*Love that Honda!*
shit? that's why they sell the same amount of GS then the other producers together? :)
Buy Africa and you will be amazed by amount of problems you get with it.
Like what ?
Calm down everyone, they are both great. There is no loser here. Where I live, the BMW is $10,000 dollars more than the Honda. It is not $10,000 better, but if you can afford it go for it!
szeriman13 Depends where you live. They sell more Africa Twins in Australia than BMW's. 2018 now and it's shifting. GS850 is hugely overpriced. The Charlie and Ewen influence is wearing off...
Well done: tremendous video, great bikes, wonderful landscape, fine explanations!
Thank you so much!
Very good video, the visuals were awesome. I did think the sound quality and mix didn't keep up with the visual quality though, distortion on one of the voices and mix levels that required me to stand guard on the volume control often. Fix those sound things and it really will be top-notch!
Oh and I'm with the other guys who were a bit alarmed at your helmet straps not being done up!!
Aye aye, Captain, we'll work on those sound issues, thanks for the feedback. As for the helmet straps, we had some problems with a mic at a certain point, had to arrange it several times and just left the helmet unlocked for a minute. Didn't imagine so many people will react to that.
Cool :) Ah, I see, yeah I guess it just happened to be in the looking back at the riders shot so it was easy for everyone to spot - and, well it is the internet ;-)
Beautiful countries, amazing for a tour
Awesome video!