2017 BMW R1200GS Rallye Review
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- 2017 BMW R1200GS Rallye Review : As a long time owner of a liquid cooled GS I was very keen to try the latest iteration of this brilliant bike, the off-road focused GS Rallye. Stay tuned to find out what I made of it!
Many thanks to Aldo and the team at Bahnstormer in Maidenhead for letting me borrow the bike for review.
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Bought a 2018 model of this bike (with TFT) 2 weeks ago. Completely besotted. Traded up from F750GS. I'm about 5/8 and 1/2 and can get most of my feet on the ground. I think people worry too much about height with the GS. Got seat set at the lowest height. It's a 'King of the Road bike! :) Got 2-year warranty and will upgrade for the white 1250 Rallye when that runs out, just in time for my 60th Birthday! Cheers for the reviews Andy.
I like how you manage to cram so much useful info into 20 mins.Keep up the great work :)
Cheers David - Appreciated!
Looks really good,best looking GS yet in my humble opinion !
Yes I agree on that...
Was at the dealer in Denton TX yesterday and have to say the color scheme and frame and graphics are awesome just love them. thanks for another great video and review
+Kevin Brown Thanks for watching Kevin - appreciated.
Nice review! Am glad I went for the GSA. Now soon 3 weeks owner of one and about 2,000 kilometers of riding. Took me a few days to get used to, and adjust myself to it. Came from an RT so the gap wasn't too big (did consider Ducati Multistrada Enduro) . Have to say, I absolutely love the GSA. Went out in the woods and hills on gravel and dirt roads, outpaced a guy on a 2016 Africa Twin with DSG. That was my first time on gravel/dirt with this bike.
The AT owner simply had to admit the GSA is better for almost everything. If anyone thinks the Rallye is a big extreme, go for a GSA. But make sure to check boxes on all the packages. I got the QuickShift and dynamic ESA (absolutely love that too) and all the the other stuff. Don't know how it behaves without them but they're all very very useful :)
+Knut Meyn Yes I love the GSA (and the Africa Twin!).....but the GSA is the one I would have if money were no object (and KTM didn't exist)...
thanks for the review i'm keenly anticipating an upgrade myself, i've been following all of your vids.
Good man!
Great review, sharp looking bike and beautiful scenery!
+PistolPete63 Thank you as ever Pete...
LOVELY REVIEW
Thank you...
Thanks for these videos (this one and the others regarding the GSA and the choice between the two). I added this model to my garage recently and love it. As you mentioned, it is very well balanced and, with the two piece seat, it is easy to get your feet on the ground. The engine, fueling, and transmission are all excellent, and the overall build quality is first rate. I did try the competition, and found that the 37 years of development and evolution of the GS series makes it a much more refined, sophisticated machine. I enjoy your travel videos as well, and hope to put a lot of miles on this beast in coming years.
Congratulations Ben, ride safe and enjoy!
TheMissendenFlyer Thank you!
Excellent video as usual good sir !!
+Wesley Harding Thank you Wes...
Deliberated long and hard over this but finally placed an order for my new GS Rallye this week at Bahnstormer Alton. Thanks goes to TMF for the brilliant reviews. What a bike, coming from a KTM 690 Supermoto, within 200 yards I felt completely at home on the GS, gobsmacked at how great it rides. If you haven't riden one, GO DO IT !!
Matt at Bahnstormers is a top bloke, had a fantastic sales experience better than any other manufacturer/dealer that I've used in the past. Can't wait for delivery.
Congratulations Steve - I've not dealt with the Alton Bahnstormer crew but I can vouch for their colleagues in Maidenhead...BMW service is legendary. Enjoy your new bike...lucky man!
Before I watched this I had a number of questions I wondered if your review would answer including comparing it with my 2016MY the last being was it worth changing. You managed to tick them all off mate so thanks very much. BTW I've just got a new smart TV after the other TV went phut and have paired it with my smartphone. The quality of your vids on the TV is truly amazing-takes your reviews to a whole new level. Cheers Ade
+adrianbarrie13 Brilliant, hope im not too scary....
I love this bike. Its higher suspension etc give it some of the best off-road features of the Adventure without all that extra touring size. Nice styling. $21,500 base price in the US. For knocking down dirt roads in the backcountry, this is it. I'd make the same choices for windscreen and seat, and I'd swap out to 50/50 tires.
+Andrew M Yeah I agree, those changes make sense to me....
Great review, I'm yet to ride one of these. I like the standard GS and I like off road too!
Thanks - glad you approve!
Many thanks for another excellent review.
My pleasure…
the colour combination is on point
+Tony Tng Agreed! Looks good doesn't it...
Such a great colour scheme
Agreed, fancy doing mine like that!
many thanks for your. review. on the gs rallye I have been trying to make a decision on whether to buy a brand new. rallye or a second hand gs adventure I have yet to ride either bike as I am still riding my old 1150gs which I. won't be. selling
...you're caught in the horns of a dilemma there Chris! Good luck!
Beautiful bike ... love it !!
+Glenn Fryer Agreed!
another great video telly enjoying your vlogs .you never mentioned the shaft drive what was it like as I have never ride a shaft drive bike . look forward to seeing your next flog many thanks tony
+Anthony Stanley Ti be honest I can't tell the difference between a shaft drive bike and a chain driven one...except for the fact of easy maintenance on the shaft drive of course....
Good Afternoon TMF Thank You for the video ,a good looking bike with the blue painted frame etc ,and of course another good review .Take Care.
Cheers Wayne....
Loving your videos. Inspired me to pass my full licence 👍
Brilliant!
I see this bike at the Birmingham show & was well impressed at the styling. Pity it doesn't come in an adventure model too but I really like the stand out styling of the bike & find the more I see it the more I like it. I have been waiting for your review of this bike since you mentioned it 2 weeks ago or thereabouts thanks for the gr8 review.
+Paul Hickey Cheers Paul, glad you approve!
First of all I love your reviews, and hope to see more. Being from Nova Scotia Canada it's great to see opinions from across the pond, and do hope you get the chance to review some of the more (affordable) adventure bikes like the new v-strom 650. Keep up the great channel!
Thank you Kevin - appreciate the very kind words...how's the temperature up there??
TheMissendenFlyer. The weather is great now...temps still cool in the morning, but mid teens to low 20's by midday. Nice riding weather after a long winter!
Sounds ideal - it's 2 degrees C here today!!
Another great review! Would love to see a review of the S1000rr
+Dylan O'Sullivan I'm working on it! New fireblade first :0)
many thanks for the review of this bike. I was wondering whether to purchase. one of. these but getting a decent amount for my trade in I finally took the plunge and. got one. and what. can I say it. has blown. me away. totally different from the. older 1150 gs. but then again. with 16 years difference. in technology. just to say thank you for the review. as you're not. influenced by the. manufacturers. and give. an honest. review. many thanks. and keep. them coming
Thank you Chris - will do!
Fantastic looking bike !
Nice video :)
+JOSE EDUARDO MACHADO Cheers!
So..Great review as always...Have you seen/read any intel on the 2018 1200GS screen? I saw a BMW with some newer display but didn't catch which model it was!
Yes I sure have and I can't wait to test one out for real! I've put a nod in to the local dealer that as soon as they have a demo in I'd like a go on it....will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the brilliant TFT on the KTM Super Adventure S which currently resides in my garage ;0)
Great video as usual! Waiting on delivery of my new Rallye! Brutal wait..
How long are they telling you??
Oh its at the dealer. When i say brutal i mean bought last saturday and have to wait till thursday for it to be delivered to my house.
...how frustrating!
That is NOT a brutal wait, I ordered my bike in October and am still waiting. Initial delivery was estimated as the end of Feb. I hope that makes your wait easier. ;)
Hi I have always loved the R1200GS bikes but have never had an opportunity to try one. What I have done is to watch all your GS videos and the ordered a new one from my BMW dealer. So yesterday I got a brand new blue R1200GS Rally and I must say its a fantastic motorcycle. Very comfortable, fast enough and really good looking. Actually the first bike I really have to read the manual to get the best of it. Thanks :)
Wow, congratulations and enjoy! All the best - TMF
Not far from my part of the world. Henley on a sunny day is hard to beat. Top vid as ever mate!
Thank you T Dubber...and yes, who doesn't like Henley what!
Just LOOOVE the colour scheme on the bike! Saw one in the metal today, and it looks stunning. Also think cylinder head protector bars should be standard equipment on this type of bike...
Agreed on both counts - thanks for watching - TMF
Great video. thanks! i've being following you and thanks to you I decided to buy my r1200gs. lovely bike. best regards.
+Jose Acosta you are a man of great taste! ;0)
Nice Review! Do you know if this bike had the Sports suspension option as well being you are 5'8"?
+moonw5 I reckon it probably did yes....
..."tarting her up" - I chuckled at that - really nice ride along and review - I appreciate your perspective on the various bikes you get to ride particularly this one... Curious; I think you may have the best balance of motor sound to voice clarity ratio of any vlogger I've yet watched... Nicely done!
+LookattheBiggerPic Thanks for that - entirely by chance I can assure you!!
...well, nicely done in any case! I am curious - how do you apply the sellotape, directly over mic head or...?
+LookattheBiggerPic well over the mic "body" if that makes sense...
...yes I think it does, inventive!
I've bought a lapel mic but all i get is unbearable wind noise. Just ordered a dead cat for it, hope that helps. I'm aiming to go on a bit of a bike tour and would like some decent audio to go with the vid. Your set up is clear as a bell. I can use the bluetooth mic to my phone but the quality is barely passable.
Great review as usual. Any chance of a R nine T urban G/S review?
+C You never know! Stay tuned - TMF
Thanks for the review again.
I'm very interested in this bike and have an old style GS plus new RS.
For info, you're reviewing a Rallye Sport. (That brings the higher screen, double seat).. plus the bike has the premium pack which takes it back to full road TE spec (Dynamic ESA, heared grips etc).
Yes thanks for that - one or two others have pointed that out too - cheers - TMF
I’ve recently bought one of these beauties and I’m loving every second of it. Only flaw I’d say is sometimes it is quite hard to find the neutral, but that lovely engine and the overall impeccable balance make up for everything. Can’t see myself selling this ever!
Thanks for your review MissendenFlyer (what’s a Missenden?), it is very informative and to the point as the rest of your production.
Cool - Missenden is a village in Buckinghamshire 🇬🇧
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks, it must have sounded like a pretty dumb question!
Anyway I mostly agree with what you say halfway through the review: this GS is cool but mostly because of graphics, the tiny windshield and the bench seat are definitely not mandatory even if one intends to take it on something more serious than gravel roads. That’s only my experience anyway, I love it nonetheless!
I think you are confusing the GS Rallye with the GS Rallye X. The Rallye X come standard with the small screen, knobbly tyres and one piece seat. You are riding the GS Rallye, which has the two seat option and standard screen and Anakee3 tyres, so the features you mentioned that the dealer has 'swapped over' are actually standard on that model (Rallye, not Rallye X). Both the Rallye models also come with the same suspension as the GSA, 20mm more travel and a bit stiffer. Love your videos, you do set the benchmark for quality reviews. Keep up the great work.
+OZ Rider I think the models may differ slightly in Europe - thanks for watching, all the best - TMF
They may not call it the "X" over here, but I think he is right, that it's a "choice of packages" that determines the screen/seat, so they may not have been swapped and were ordered with that config?
I think you can even get the Rallye look (blue frame and such) without the harder/longer suspension, i.e. a std. GS that looks like a Rallye if you don't add a particular package.
There has apparently been a lot of forum moaning about how difficult it is to know what you are getting with all the different Rallye packages.
....understood - thanks for the clarification (hard to keep up isn't it!!)
I blame the makers! ;) They could certainly make things more transparent.
KTM's configurator is pretty good mind you.
www.ktm.com/gb/configurator/?model=%24M-1290SUPERADVENTURES2017
I believe it's the same in the UK as it is in Canada, where you can order the bike with a passenger kit that swaps out the bench seat and the short windscreen with the regular screen and seat and adds a centre stand.
I've done over 1000 miles on mine already. Great review. I suspect it's a rally sport with the pillion pack which gives you the big screen, proper seats and centre stand
+tangojulietkilo I think you're right (I've ridden over a thousand miles on my GS this weekend!)...
TheMissendenFlyer did you make bonnie Scotland?
Awesome review, Thanks. I had to subscribe. Safe travels.
Welcome along Fredo - thanks for watching and for the Sub!
Good review, very thorough as we have come to expect. I've noticed that a lot of you bike reviews are on quite pricey and expensive bikes or really cheap 125s. The exception being the R3. Is there any plans to do some more middle price bikes? There are a plethora of 250-400 cc bikes such as Vstrom 250, 300 Versys, and the RE Himalayan. Will you be looking to these for future tests, and which are more affordable to us commoners? Cheers
+Peakrider Yes I love riding all bikes and will happily Review whatever dealers/manufacturers are willing to lend me! Stay tuned for more soon...TMF
TheMissendenFlyer absolutely. I've been a subscriber for a while and never miss one of your vlogs.
TheMissendenFlyer, does the addition of the new TFT connectivity display (recently announced) make this bike even more appealing to you?
Thanks for the great review!
+Renato Lopes It does indeed!
Man that's nice MissendenFlyer! How do you feel about reading the instruments? I've heard complaints in the past they're kind of hard to read? Before I spend the money for one of these.. Is performing maintenance a pain on these? Changing oil? then less periodic things Like changing the battery or air filter? Or lubing the shaft spline? Sorry for so many questions.. Thanks for you time!
+Rob C Instruments are rubbish, Satnav fixes that. Maintenance no harder than any other bike - infact easier given no chain to worry about. Go for it!
I am now fully sold .Thankyou.
Good day TMF any chance you can test the new 1200 tiger and compare to this BMW GS Rallye,id like another opinion before I buy in Jan 18. Keep up the good work
I'd love too - but not sure the Tiger 1200 will be available that soon......will ask the question though...
I have watched your videos for sometime now,you seem to be a far more confident rider than you used to be,just my opinion,the rally is the best looking GS so far.
Thank you Kevin, funnily enough I was thinking the same myself only this morning! .....I'll probably have a prang now....
great video , I want that bike. You ride with such confidence. I can ride and ATV or dirty bike, but I can't see me doing well in traffic.
It's only practice Andy - but thanks for the complement!
Is that tapping sound from the engine normal on the GS1200 LC?
I took that Rallye out, and thought it was quite different to the previous GS. I ended up purchasing an Exclusive and I'm very pleased i did. Key differences for me: the front end redesign has made the bike much quieter; as you mentioned, gearbox and GSAP are very much better; and I also think the bike looks much better. I got one with the 'comfort seat, low'. I'm a couple of inches taller than you, but still felt insecure occasionally, and indeed fell off once when fully loaded on a slippery slope.
+Alan Briggs Nice one Alan, congratulations on the new bike!
Bought the 2015 model when it came out and now just waiting for the delivery of my new replacement motorbike....the 2017 GS Rallye. Big fan of all your reviews, especially the BMW's. Would like to see you do a review of Simon Pavey's off-road course in Wales or even Hechlingen in Germany. Hechlingen is easier for me to get to as I now live in Holland. In 2018 I will be doing both places.
Nice one Leigh - enjoy!
Great review MS. That's the nicest GS so far to my eyes. I am a Tiger owner currently but will pop over the Maidenhead to look at that. Great review. I see lots of comments about the lack of offroad protection, but who would ride this offroad? Get yourself something light and circa 250cc for that. Like Taking a top end Range Rover off road where a Defender will do.
+Simon Pass 100% agree Simon, off roading an £18k GS isn't for me - I have my £4K CRF for that!
I think of my GS as a SUV Moto, which means that it is dandy on things as frisky as mountain logging roads. That opens up all kind of great camping opportunities whilst touring.
Hi TMF, urious about one thing. What is the lower body weather protection like on these GS's? Imagine upper body is draft free due to fair size screen, hands are fine with handguards but wonder what is the story with legs? Had RT before and leegs were draft free also. Would like to jump back on a touring bike and might consider something from adv-touring claas if protection is good
Legs are pretty well protected by those twin cylinders in the same way as the RT....
Thanks for the effort. Let's hope get get back to you. Meanwhile, keep these nice videos coming. Ride safe!
+Marcus Ong Thanks Marcus...
Great review Mr Flyer, when I up my parents last weekend, I cooled into Bowlers at Preston they also done the same mods, As you said BMW Motorrad dealers know how to look after customers unlike the both the Kawasaki dealers in my area when my daughter was looking at bikes.
+vince halls yeah, you do pay for it though of course!
Yes but if you ask a question BMW do come back to you, unlike Kawasaki, the Suzuki dealer didn't want to give a test ride, the local Honda dealer is not a fan on demo bikes either, Ongar Motorcycles will give 30 minutes demo trail (Triumph) were as Cannon BMW give a hour plus plus Jim Aim (KTM) are happy to loan a bike for the same time period, One of my mates (James) said the Yamaha dealer gave him 20 minutes on a MT09 Tracer which just about got him out of town & back, he said the screen on the MT was directing the wind up above the screen & tunneling under his crash helmet creating extra howling within his lid (to which the dealer other riders had reported this). end of the day when you are paying for something which is excess of £10,000 + or for a hobby bit of fun, dealers need us as much as we need them. I have called into BMW Motorrad in Alton, Braintree, Norwich, Peterborough. Preston & York all have given a cup of coffee/tea and made welcome
+vince halls They (BMW) are in another league when it comes to motorcycle service I find..(with a few exceptions)
hey , wanted to know one thing , ESA does it really work ? Because when i was riding GS for my height it felt right however when i was on XR 1000 it felt a bit higher and the dealer did some adjustments on ESA , but frankly i did not feel any difference in terms of height adjustment , So whats the case with GS ?
+SPORT TOURER Yes it works, when you change the loading (from say just a rider to rider with pillion and bags) you can physically feel the ride height jack up...on the road the suspension is lovely (and probably off road too!)....
Another great review, my local dealer has a few of these sitting about and they look great. Like you not sure about the bench seat and small screen.
+dave80h Thank you Dave...
Dave, just choose the package as reviewed with stock screen a 2 piece if you can't test it first. The ideal thing would be to try both seats ... and the KTM too of course .
Another great review of an amazing machine, I can only imagine what it's like to own, thanks MF, looking forward to the Street Scrambler review; more my budget and style 😉
+Mark Lincoln Me too!
I want to buy a GS 1200,coming from a 2016 Kawasaki Versys 1000 with hyperpro suspension.The thing that worries me is, that when riding fast and having big lean angles,the cylinders will scratch the ground.Does it happen much?I am doubting for this between a Multistrada and the GS1200
Nope - never happens - you can lean the GS a long way with nothing touching the deck....
Still waiting for your review of any Moto Guzzi )) Griso, Stelvio or V7 maybe? I am seriously considering getting a Guzzi would love to hear what you have to say about it.
May be a long wait I'm afraid, but as soon as I can, a review will be on it's way!
Question.Do you ever have a problem with either your own GS or this Rallye with accidentally moving the Wonder wheel and so altering the GPS or some other function ?. Thanks.
Nope, the wonder wheel works a treat!
Hey +TheMissendenFlyer I am currently in a big search for an ADV/Touring bike , I have narrowed my search to 3 bikes , but the most debate goes between the R1200GS Rallye configured just like the one you drive , and the 1290 Super Adventure S you reviewed a few weeks ago , which one would you choose of the 2 ?
Keep in mind that it will be my only bike and that I would be using it for everything... (everyday use , weekend rides and touring inside and outside the borders)
p.s. I love your videos and the points you make reviewing a bike , covers pretty much everything anyone would like to hear and your opinion is one of the most unbiased I've seen !!! Keep it up !!!!
+Giannhsss13 Thanks Giannhsss13 - That's an easy question, 1290 Super Adventure S....
Wow , wasn't expecting such an easy answer ! So it is that good ! Nice to know and thank for your time and answer !
Thanks for the great review TMF. What's your preference now on GSA, GS and KTM? Also what mileage range does the GS tank offer?
+Dougie KTM SAS, GSA, GS in that order - standard GS does around 210 miles per tank (at least mine does!)....thanks for watching - TMF
Do you feel a difference in feel between the shaft drive and a conventional chain? Thanks
+Phillip kirk Personally no I don't...
Nice bike I like the color scheme
Me too...
great looking bike that rallye edition. Here's a serious question for you haha. And it's going to choose my next bike on your answer lol. can't decide between Gs/multistrada/tiger/1290 adventure ktm.......am 6ft 2......17stone. bike won't go off road much just some touring Wales/Scotland etc......watched so many reviews can't decide. So with a budget of 15k (new bike or nearly new with low miles). what would you go for hahahahah cheers
2017 KTM SA-S.....enjoy :0) ...or if too expensive nearly new GS-A.....
great review
i love the GS. i like the blue colour. i just don t get the meaning of the GS Rallye... another windshield and another seat... this is it?
cheers Tom
....and longer travel suspension, and a groovy paint scheme....if I were being cynical I'd regard it as a "parts bin special" as BMW come to the end of the line with this series of GS (I'm anticipating an all new GS by the end of the year....just a feeling not based on any evidence)...
TheMissendenFlyer my GSA suspension is also 20 mm longer. i guess it is the same suspension.
lets wait and see what will be 2018...
cheers Tom
Yeah I reckon so...cheers
Great review. So..., out of the BMW and KTM Adventure bikes - which would you pick for you next bike?
Close one, balance tipped in favour of KTM currently...but it is tight...
TheMissendenFlyer I'm actually in the process of either getting an XR or GSA .. I currently have a GS .. any recommendations??
The Triple Black GSA is so boss... also, you can't beat the engineering. I have a Kawasaki Concours 1400 so, the XR would be close to what I have. As for KTM, love the engine but not the look. Plus regarding panniers, gps and etc. the KTM is a little yard sale where everything for the BMW is designed for the bike.
I just recieved my ktm 1290 s last month. And im hoping for a better ride and comfort and plushness of the suspension. But im hard on giving up35hp and 20nm of torque of my ktm to the bmw. I have just had 1000miles on my sa. And im torn between keeping my bike and trading it for the gs...:(
May I ask what camera did you use on your helmet? Sony x3000?
Deets in the Description (GoPro hd4)
Just excellent. I've not been a big fan of the look of the adventure bikes but the Rallye really is a killer good looking bike. On a 2016 T120 right now which I love short of the horrible seat. I could picture owning a GS without any problem. Enjoy the reviews TMF! Keep'em coming. Cheers!
Thank you Allan, is the T120 seat that bad?? I found it OK but then I probably haven'r sat on one as long as you.....no such problems with the GS :0)
I have an over sensitive bum. Probably gonna let the T120 go in 2018 and look at a GS or an RT. Kawasaki Versys 1000 is on my list. Gotta have something the wife will like to ride on the back of but I don't want too much weight in a bike. Again, enjoying your channel and keep up the good work.
Please do a review on the F800GSA?
As soon as someone lends me one, I will :0)
Nice appraisal, I am considering changing my Yamaha Super Tenere for one of these, we'll see what develops!
Go for it!
I'll probably be swapping from a R1200R to a lowered GS Rally, I don't need the 8 gallon tank that the Adventure has.
I loved the GS that I test rode, was just as flickable and it felt just as light but you sit more inside the GS vs ontop like the r1200r
Yes agreed, a great bike (but then I am biased of course!)....
Id say the one your riding is the Rallye sport with premium package as its got the std screen seat keyless, nav prep cruise etc, just ordered one for delivery Thursday thats how I spotted the difference LOL great video as usual
Rob
+Rob B Thanks Rob, I reckon you're right on that....
LOL didnt want to prompt you matey its just that Ive studied the sales list and the web site for the last 2 weeks contemplating trading my fully kitted XR Sport SE in got one so I had a good clue !! got the Rallye Sport with the Premium pack on it in the end so in essence its like a Rallye TE then had them fit panniers top box, engine guards, alarm, inner bags, feel very light in the pocket dept now, LOL
Rob
+Rob B Sounds lovely - congrats and enjoy!
i think your find the dash is what u choose u can have the standard screen or the TFT screen as an upgrade
You can now yes...
well considering it is a twenty eighteen model it comes with the old dials as standard and if u prefer there TFT screen u have to request it when u go into buy the bike as an upgrade and i think your find its the same with all the models but being a new bike u would think it would come as standard.
I believe the TFT "option" is now free?
TMF, does the Rallye have the same fuel capacity as the GS or the larger size of the GSA ?
Same.
+Sérgio André Yep!
The reason why the bike you tested had 2 step rather than a bench seat was probably because you were riding the Rallye sport, which for most part (other than the spooked wheels, pegs and one or two bits of plastic) is the same as the te exclusive. You can spec it up to get the 20mm suspension like the 'pure' Rallye. I've read that the sport version is for UK only, but don't know if that's correct.
Maybe, the dealer told me they had swapped it to the "standard" GS seat.....
That's the stealers for you - make it up as they go along :-). Another excellent review anyway. Agree with others, you would be a natural for doing this sort of thing for the telly!
Thank you very much :0)
Huge fan of the 1200 GS, however sometimes what the Germans do makes ZERO sense. They have a frame protector of a few inches of plastic while there is ZERO protection of the Cylinder Heads for this so called "off road" model bike. Yeah BMW, we get it! You want us to pay another $500 to get the Crash Bars on top of the $21K already spent. It is all about the Accessory sales, but who will guarantee that I will buy the BMW Crash Bars?
Becker Inal n
why is a motorbike made in the EU so much more expensive than a motorbike made in Japan?
Becker Inal I agree with you here, for an off road aimed bike, the lack of protection is poor, rather buy a GSA in my book, comes with most of what you would want.
... and people say the KTMs are expensive when the crash bars are half that price.
+EU Bike Dude Alternatively don't drop it!:0)
How is the road comfort compared to 1290 sa s thx
Better....
Nice one TMF. Like the colour, especially the blue frame. Can't deny that I like the GSA monster width though;-)
It's a shame they don't offer this colour scheme on the GSA/standard bike, that alone is worth a premium I reckon!
TheMissendenFlyer yes a GSA would look ace in this colour I think :-0
Is the tank the same size as standard gs?
+Rafa Souza Yes it is...
So... did you make your mind up XR or GSA?
XR? Not sure that was ever int he frame Scott!
Think you need to take the exclusive out for a little burn next...
+Shelley Raskin There's only so much stuff I can say about the GS! :0)
Nice video! Would love to see the Multistrada 1200 Enduro soon. 😄
+Marcus Ong Well I did write and ask the local Ducati dealer if I could review one....so far no response :0(
I tried the 2017 GS1200 with gear assist and TBH was unimpressed - unless it was operator error on my part! wouldn't be the first time ha! Much preferred the manual feather touch clutch to change. Don't understand this off road lark, would be the last bike id take off road unless I had Roman Abramovich wedge, besides this isn't Spain or France we don't have the right to roam or space. Good review BTW my GS comes this week ;-)
Congratulations- you're going to love the bike, brilliant bit of kit...all the best - TMF
Just got mine 2 weeks ago and it's a great bike. Lot off money for what is out there but great bike
+Jon Laye Agreed....you pays your money and all that....
Hi MF. Do you know what the minimalist rear mudguard is called as I've scoured the net looking for one for my MT125 with no success?
+Kevin Taylor You mean the hugger???
The thing below the numberplate with the single sided bracket. I've typed in mudguard, hugger, fender but can't find 'em anywhere.
I passed two beemer bikers yesterday... both ignored my wave...I was on an Africa Twin but c'mon we're all bikers aren't we. ;)
+David J Well I would have waved....
Personally, I find people don't always wave to you on a Beemer....
Phillip Mykytiuk maybe it's just how folks roll nowadays...I also drive a Land Rover Defender and used to wave to other Landy drivers...no response, bloody Facebook generation. Lol.
+Dave Henderson Personally I wave at anyone - even Harley's!! ;0)
you have to wave Harleys here, they account for 90% of bikers around these parts. Its a very cool hand out to the side just as youre about to cross. I miss a lot as i'm used to Harley riders in UK ignoring me
That's a really nice looking bike....great for serious mile-munching. Nice one!
+Steve Inskip Having just ridden a thousand miles or so on my GS over the weekend, I tend to agree!
Yes I saw you were in the wilds of Scotland on your twitter. Hope it went ok and the weather held.
+Steve Inskip It still is (on both counts - I'm in Edinburgh tonight)...
Thanks TMF, nice review, as always.
Me thinks these new GS versions are stop gap models as we wait for a new GS later in the year.
I would take a GSA over this all day.
+Marc Russell I agree.....on both counts ;0)
Thought it the gsa that's being updated, to bring it into line with the 2017 changes on the gs? New gs would be next year?
The "new" GS according to bmw watchers is scheduled for the 2018/2019 with a full TFT screen. Not all BMW riders are enthused about this but it's easier to read than the dials in my opinion, traditional riders still love the dials.
Frame guards and not for a spill, that part of the frame will not come into contact with the road. The guards are there to protect the paint on the frame from boot rub. Ask any Enduro rider. though those ones do not look like a lot of good as they do not cover the whole area.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
5:25 you can set the height on auto, min or max if you prefer so.
He actually says it after a couple seconds! I tried to delete my comment but I evidently failed, damn Safari! 😅
I like the GS. Not enough to buy one, but did do a half day test ride and thought it made an excellent (if slightly unwieldy) road bike. Although these bikes can go off road, most bikes 'can' go off road. I've even see someone cross the Himalayas on an Hayabusa. The problem I have with the GS and specifically this model, is that it isn't actually that good off-road. No matter what suspension travel or tyres you give it, its weight alone should be enough to put any serious off road thoughts out of your mind. Of course, BMW organise many off-road events and tours to get the message across; It's all just marketing and upselling. Get a standard GS and use the rest towards a proper lightweight (relatively) offroad/Dakar machine!
Yeah I tend to agree - hence why I tour on my GS and fiddle about off-road on my Honda CRF...thanks for watching - TMF
Or the 1290 SA R if you need the grunt off-road.
I ride 250cc xr MD 16 red engine, but am in love with BMW, challenge is her prices.
Tell me about it!
Jolly good show! Old Chap...
+Road Buster Pip pip
Think I'd go for the std GS. Nice enough but I'm not convinced a big bike like this makes sense off Road. Disappointed Fryer Park wasn't on the itinerary ☺️
+hudsonrilke Yeah I agree, a standard GS with this paint scheme ;0) ...not familiar with Fryer Park???
george harrisons mansion. well, Olivias.
+hudsonrilke I thought that was in Claygate?
TheMissendenFlyer google says Henley but i wouldn't know.
Hi, I own this bike and like it very much. The new 1250 has the nice TFT but upgrading would provide too costly. I also do not have cruise control nor keyless ignition on mine, but can easily live without those. I go light offroading every so often and it is a lot of fun. I put Metzeler Karoo Street tires as the better compromise for my style of riding.
Message to The Missendenflyer: if ever you want to come ride and explore Quebec, you are always welcome and can borrow my bike anytime! ;) I would love to meet you!
Thank you very much!
I'm 5 8" is this bike too tall for me?
+Cornelius Maximilianus Nope, we're the same height....