I would like to make a few corrections on topics discussed at 7:09 (both have 50 watt speaker systems), 7:16 (SK-EX Rendering on the Kawai), 8:16 (Bass/ Mid/Treble equalizer), and 8:30 (Yamaha's anechoic chamber). 1) 7:09 Actually, the CA59 has a stereo amplifier of 50 watts per channel. The Yamaha CLP-745 has two stereo amplifiers of 50 watts per channel. Kawai uses a single stereo amplifier and a passive crossover for their 4 speakers. Yamaha uses a stereo amplifier of 50 watts per channel for the 8 cm speaker (boxed speaker) inside the cabinet facing the player, and another stereo amplifier with 50 watts per channel for the 16 cm woofer facing down. So, Kawai has 100 watts total and Yamaha has 200 watts total. 2) 7:16 The CA59 doesn't have the SK-EX Rendering engine, but the Harmonic Imaging XL (HI-XL). It is a step below the SK-EX Rendering. 3) 8:16 The Yamaha CLP-745 does have a Bass/Mid/Treble equalizer. Just press Function/System/Sound/Brilliance/User. The "User" is a 3-band equalizer that allows to adjust the bass, mids, and treble. 4) 8:30 Yamaha does not record their CFX in an anechoic chamber. They record it in a recording studio at their Innovation Center. They adjust the speaker system initially in an anechoic chamber in their state-of-the-art 100-million dollar Innovation Center facility to make sure the speakers do not produce coloration to the sound, then place a 3D hemispherical grid of microphones around the digital piano to calibrate the sound until it provides a realistic immersive experience. If you look at a picture of it, you will see the Clavinovas surrounded by this grid to perform a tridimensional analysis of the sound pressure. Then they take their digital pianos and compare it to the CFX in the recording studio. Kawai places their grand piano in an anechoic chamber and record a dry sound, then add DSP effects to the sound via their Virtual Technician. Because of the way the speaker system is designed by Yamaha (3D hemi-anechoic chamber, etc), when people listen to the CLP-745 on their computers using home speakers or headphones, they cannot appreciate the sound experience as produced by the built-in speakers. You will not get the same type of immersive sound by listening to a recording of the CLP-745 using studio monitors. You have to go to a music store and play it.
You always prove that you often know more and have better attention to details than reviewers. It is sad though that they did not even bother to respond.
@@milinrupasinghe3442 Thanks! There is a new model replacing the CA59, which is the CA501. I think both digital pianos perform very well in person, and it is mainly a matter of personal preference.
@@MilinRupasinghe My pleasure :) I don't know which app is better, but they look pretty similar in videos I have watched before, at least the layout. Kawai typically has some extra features and looks somehow better in specs than Yamaha, but it is difficult to judge an instrument's performance from its specs. In the recent past, I have found Yamaha performs slightly more satisfying to my ears. But I don't have a solid opinion on this.
I currently own a Yamaha CLP 535 and I am upgrading to the Kawai CA59. The touch is just wonderful on the Kawai. I fell in love with it immediately. Both are excellent pianos. It just boils down to preference.
One interesting fact about Kawai: they trademark certain phrases for the purpose of marketing their pianos. For example, "The Premier Piano of Japan" (Filed: 12/01/1999), "Japan's Finest Piano" (Filed: 1/7/2000), and "The Future of the Piano" (Filed: 8/29/2022). This is similar to Budweiser "King of Beers" (Filed 3/20/1967). When Kawai says that the Shigeru Kawai is "widely regarded as The Premier Piano of Japan", they are actually referring to the trademark. Similarly, Budweiser can also say that their beer is "widely regarded as the King of Beers".
Kawai markets pretty hard. Yamaha does too but in a much different way. Yamaha is just so much bigger that they don't have to sell as aggressively. And they're much more vague about their technology, you really have to fish for it where Kawai gives a ton of details.
It felt like you guys were favouring the kawai slightly coz I heard some significant false information on both pianos but in the end it favors the kawai piano.
I'm looking to upgrade from my entry-level Arius to either one of these models, or maybe the higher up models from Yamaha or Kawai to get the best possible sound and action. But, the piano will be going into an apartment, and I'm concerned about a more powerful sound system annoying my neighbors. Any advice on what way to go for a neighbor-friendly piano?
Any digital piano can be played very quietly or loudly depending on the volume setting. Even your Arius can play loud enough to disturb your neighbors. The only way to play a digital piano very loud and not disturb your neighbors is soundproofing the room your digital piano will be located. But soundproofing is very expensive. Mid-bass frequencies will travel through walls, floors, and ceiling at very high volume. Piano frequencies are mostly in the range of 80 Hz - 5 kHz in practice (if you run a frequency spectrum analysis), which is not as bad as somebody playing music on a good stereo. By the way, on a more technical level: the true power used by the amplifiers in most digital pianos is about 2 watts total, even at full volume. Just because these models have "50 watts per channel" doesn't mean they are actually consuming that power. Those ratings are calculated not by playing piano, but by playing a pure sine wave signal and not using speakers, but purely resistive loads (speaker impedance change dramatically across different frequencies, which changes the actual power used by the amplifiers). So, in reality, when you buy one of these models, you are nowhere near those "50 watts of power per channel". I have many amplifiers and have done those tests, and yes, they can put out 50 or 100 watts, but again when playing, let's say, a 50 Hz pure sine wave signal and using a resistor. If you use speakers you can be still close to the maximum ratings at a fixed frequency, but if you play piano tones, then that "load" is too little a challenge for an amplifier. You will hear a very loud sound with very little power actually being drawn from the amplifiers. So, in summary, these upgraded models will not sound much louder than your Yamaha Arius, as measured by a decibel meter. What you will get is a lot more mid-bass/bass frequency content, which you could also achieve by means of adding a little subwoofer to your Arius. There is no neighbor-friendly digital piano in the sense that they can all play fairly loud, even if they are rated at "6 watts per channel". Once again, you will never see those wattage consumptions in real measurements. The speaker system design, speaker box, material of the speaker cone, and speaker sensitivity will have a much more dramatic influence in how loud a digital piano can be. For example, the Roland FP90X is rated at 60 watts total from the amplifiers, but in real life it doesn't play louder than a Yamaha P45. Just go to a store and turn them both at maximum volume and you will see. Most Casio digital pianos have very slim bodies so the speakers are restricted to play without having room to breathe, so they are relatively quiet compared to other digital pianos with similar wattage ratings.
Clp 745 not good 😠I feel like the Clavier is quick to the body، and there is no good gliding between the notes، I tried all those touches، but it doesn't look good for the performance of the premium parts.
Y'all need to fact check the 745 info. Yamaha 745 is literally the first model where you can control Bass Mid and Treble... Did you guys do any research at all on this model whatsoever??? Not to mention Kawai's build quality and life span is much shorter than Yamaha's. Thank you for confusing and mis-educating more naive consumers. Also, why did you compress both piano sounds so much? So far, ever person I've spoken to in person (non-sales people) have all told me Kawai's digitals are no where close the Yamaha product
No details whatsoever. Kawai’s GrandFeel Compact is very light (48g to move C4) and bouncy (keys oscillate when coming back to rest). Sounds are not everything. The “review” quality is very disappointing.
I would like to make a few corrections on topics discussed at 7:09 (both have 50 watt speaker systems), 7:16 (SK-EX Rendering on the Kawai), 8:16 (Bass/ Mid/Treble equalizer), and 8:30 (Yamaha's anechoic chamber).
1) 7:09 Actually, the CA59 has a stereo amplifier of 50 watts per channel. The Yamaha CLP-745 has two stereo amplifiers of 50 watts per channel. Kawai uses a single stereo amplifier and a passive crossover for their 4 speakers. Yamaha uses a stereo amplifier of 50 watts per channel for the 8 cm speaker (boxed speaker) inside the cabinet facing the player, and another stereo amplifier with 50 watts per channel for the 16 cm woofer facing down. So, Kawai has 100 watts total and Yamaha has 200 watts total.
2) 7:16 The CA59 doesn't have the SK-EX Rendering engine, but the Harmonic Imaging XL (HI-XL). It is a step below the SK-EX Rendering.
3) 8:16 The Yamaha CLP-745 does have a Bass/Mid/Treble equalizer. Just press Function/System/Sound/Brilliance/User. The "User" is a 3-band equalizer that allows to adjust the bass, mids, and treble.
4) 8:30 Yamaha does not record their CFX in an anechoic chamber. They record it in a recording studio at their Innovation Center. They adjust the speaker system initially in an anechoic chamber in their state-of-the-art 100-million dollar Innovation Center facility to make sure the speakers do not produce coloration to the sound, then place a 3D hemispherical grid of microphones around the digital piano to calibrate the sound until it provides a realistic immersive experience. If you look at a picture of it, you will see the Clavinovas surrounded by this grid to perform a tridimensional analysis of the sound pressure. Then they take their digital pianos and compare it to the CFX in the recording studio. Kawai places their grand piano in an anechoic chamber and record a dry sound, then add DSP effects to the sound via their Virtual Technician.
Because of the way the speaker system is designed by Yamaha (3D hemi-anechoic chamber, etc), when people listen to the CLP-745 on their computers using home speakers or headphones, they cannot appreciate the sound experience as produced by the built-in speakers. You will not get the same type of immersive sound by listening to a recording of the CLP-745 using studio monitors. You have to go to a music store and play it.
You always prove that you often know more and have better attention to details than reviewers. It is sad though that they did not even bother to respond.
@@mfurman Hi Michael, thanks a lot for the support.
thanks for this info! Which would you recommend of the two?
@@milinrupasinghe3442 Thanks! There is a new model replacing the CA59, which is the CA501. I think both digital pianos perform very well in person, and it is mainly a matter of personal preference.
@@MilinRupasinghe My pleasure :) I don't know which app is better, but they look pretty similar in videos I have watched before, at least the layout. Kawai typically has some extra features and looks somehow better in specs than Yamaha, but it is difficult to judge an instrument's performance from its specs. In the recent past, I have found Yamaha performs slightly more satisfying to my ears. But I don't have a solid opinion on this.
I currently own a Yamaha CLP 535 and I am upgrading to the Kawai CA59. The touch is just wonderful on the Kawai. I fell in love with it immediately. Both are excellent pianos. It just boils down to preference.
I own a kawai CA 99, I prefer it to the Yamaha’s that were available at the time,1st to comment 🎉
Omg I was just looking for a video between ca59 and clp 745...
One interesting fact about Kawai: they trademark certain phrases for the purpose of marketing their pianos. For example, "The Premier Piano of Japan" (Filed: 12/01/1999), "Japan's Finest Piano" (Filed: 1/7/2000), and "The Future of the Piano" (Filed: 8/29/2022). This is similar to Budweiser "King of Beers" (Filed 3/20/1967). When Kawai says that the Shigeru Kawai is "widely regarded as The Premier Piano of Japan", they are actually referring to the trademark. Similarly, Budweiser can also say that their beer is "widely regarded as the King of Beers".
Interesting fact, tysm for sharing!
Kawai markets pretty hard. Yamaha does too but in a much different way. Yamaha is just so much bigger that they don't have to sell as aggressively. And they're much more vague about their technology, you really have to fish for it where Kawai gives a ton of details.
It felt like you guys were favouring the kawai slightly coz I heard some significant false information on both pianos but in the end it favors the kawai piano.
11:42 - start playing the Yamaha - 20:37 the Kawai.
Yamaha is not Gucci, more like Toyota. Exceptional quality and reliability.
That's subjective. Agree with you on the quality though🎹🎶
If you include Lexus.
I'm looking to upgrade from my entry-level Arius to either one of these models, or maybe the higher up models from Yamaha or Kawai to get the best possible sound and action. But, the piano will be going into an apartment, and I'm concerned about a more powerful sound system annoying my neighbors. Any advice on what way to go for a neighbor-friendly piano?
Any digital piano can be played very quietly or loudly depending on the volume setting. Even your Arius can play loud enough to disturb your neighbors. The only way to play a digital piano very loud and not disturb your neighbors is soundproofing the room your digital piano will be located. But soundproofing is very expensive. Mid-bass frequencies will travel through walls, floors, and ceiling at very high volume. Piano frequencies are mostly in the range of 80 Hz - 5 kHz in practice (if you run a frequency spectrum analysis), which is not as bad as somebody playing music on a good stereo.
By the way, on a more technical level: the true power used by the amplifiers in most digital pianos is about 2 watts total, even at full volume. Just because these models have "50 watts per channel" doesn't mean they are actually consuming that power. Those ratings are calculated not by playing piano, but by playing a pure sine wave signal and not using speakers, but purely resistive loads (speaker impedance change dramatically across different frequencies, which changes the actual power used by the amplifiers). So, in reality, when you buy one of these models, you are nowhere near those "50 watts of power per channel". I have many amplifiers and have done those tests, and yes, they can put out 50 or 100 watts, but again when playing, let's say, a 50 Hz pure sine wave signal and using a resistor. If you use speakers you can be still close to the maximum ratings at a fixed frequency, but if you play piano tones, then that "load" is too little a challenge for an amplifier. You will hear a very loud sound with very little power actually being drawn from the amplifiers.
So, in summary, these upgraded models will not sound much louder than your Yamaha Arius, as measured by a decibel meter. What you will get is a lot more mid-bass/bass frequency content, which you could also achieve by means of adding a little subwoofer to your Arius.
There is no neighbor-friendly digital piano in the sense that they can all play fairly loud, even if they are rated at "6 watts per channel". Once again, you will never see those wattage consumptions in real measurements. The speaker system design, speaker box, material of the speaker cone, and speaker sensitivity will have a much more dramatic influence in how loud a digital piano can be. For example, the Roland FP90X is rated at 60 watts total from the amplifiers, but in real life it doesn't play louder than a Yamaha P45. Just go to a store and turn them both at maximum volume and you will see. Most Casio digital pianos have very slim bodies so the speakers are restricted to play without having room to breathe, so they are relatively quiet compared to other digital pianos with similar wattage ratings.
Hi. Is second hand Yamaha CLP 545 or new Kawai CA-49 better?
Ca 401 is too good
sorry, name of song at 13:00?
Clp 745 not good 😠I feel like the Clavier is quick to the body، and there is no good gliding between the notes، I tried all those touches، but it doesn't look good for the performance of the premium parts.
Y'all need to fact check the 745 info. Yamaha 745 is literally the first model where you can control Bass Mid and Treble... Did you guys do any research at all on this model whatsoever??? Not to mention Kawai's build quality and life span is much shorter than Yamaha's. Thank you for confusing and mis-educating more naive consumers. Also, why did you compress both piano sounds so much? So far, ever person I've spoken to in person (non-sales people) have all told me Kawai's digitals are no where close the Yamaha product
No details whatsoever. Kawai’s GrandFeel Compact is very light (48g to move C4) and bouncy (keys oscillate when coming back to rest). Sounds are not everything. The “review” quality is very disappointing.
All Yamaha had to is add an eq… they did in the 745 it’s right there on the panel.