Looks like the little bag hanging above the outlet got singed at some time ago. Fabric lights more easily if it has been pre-singed. The heavier outlet might help but it may not solve the problem. Make sure her room has a better-then-average smoke detector.
Backstabbing is not recommended, some electricians use the quickwire or backstabbing method with 14awg wire because it's faster to install. Always use backwiring or sidewiring when installing receptacles and switches. Also don't use cheap 18awg extension cords with space heaters.
@Lisa Smith thanks for the question. My breaker is 20amp on this circuit, but even if it wasn't I would still put the 20amp outlet on it. The outlet doesn't change how much power is pulled through, just how well it handles it. Anyways, this was just what Lowe's had in stock. So, the brand that they have now is Eaton. It is a good outlet, but I do like the Leviton better that Home Depot and a lot of Ace Hardware stores have. I just have a Lowe's down the street from me, so that's where I get most of my stuff.
@@AroundTheHome1If this was a 15 amp circuit, it would be a code violation to use a 20 amp receptacle because it implies that the circuit is 20 amp and 12 gauge wire. You are correct that in reality it's not really unsafe unless you plugged in an appliance with a 20 amp power cord (5-20P). Highly unlikely, they are very rare. However, the 15 amp commercial grade receptacle is what you should use. Btw, a 15 amp duplex receptacle is code compliant on a 20 amp circuit, but I would still use a commercial grade version as it is virtually identical internally. In this case, if only 20 amp receptacles were available at the store, I get that and would likely do the same thing. You know what you're doing. A 1500 watt heater will draw potentially 12.5 amps. You can check the actual amount with a clamp meter.
Still not safe. You need to know how many amps the Breaker in the sub panel is pulling without the space heater. Then decide whether or not it's safe to add a spaceader to that circuit. It's always a good idea to run A dedicated circuit for a space heater using 20 amp breaker and oulet, 10 gage wire. Now that's safe.
Doug, let me try and help here. Because it looks like you have like 25% of the info. I'm not sure what you have read, but let's try and break this down the best I can. 1st, the outlet doesn't pull power. It's just rated at 20 amps. And that means that is can handle a higher amp pull. Meaning that it has a heavier gauge contacts inside that will not fail or get heat fatigue so easily. So, that's the first thing to know why I did this because these heaters can pull a bit of power that will heat up the outlet. And they run for very extended amounts of time. So that's why the heat is important and the main reason for the heavier duty rated outlet. 2nd, you assumed that my circuit was 15 amps. This one actually isn't. It is a 20 amp circuit, but let me tell you why that doesn't matter at all. It doesn't matter at all, because the heater isn't pulling 20 amps. It's not pulling 15 amps. But if you flip bother power switches, turning it to high, I think it will pull like 10 or 11 amps. Which is a lot for a single plug on a 110 outlet. You might say hey, I have a skill saw with a 15 amp motor. Ok, sure you do, but it doesn't always pull 15 amps. When you are running it just holding it in the air it is not pulling 15 amps. When you are cutting a thin piece of plywood you are not pulling 15 amps. But when you are ripping the length of a 2x4 / 2x6 and you can really hear the motor working. Ok, then maybe you are pulling all those 15 amps. But how long are you doing that? 1 - 2 minutes? If you have one of these heaters trying to heat a large room so you have it set on high, then they are consistently pulling those higher amps. I know they cycle off for a few, but when it is cold out I bet they run for 30-45 minutes straight before cycling off for a few before they cycle back on. Ok, but let's circle back around the your point about the 15 amp circuit. Let's say my circuit was 15 amps, because it very possibly could have been. And let's say that you are plugging two heaters into the same outlet and turning them on high. First, let me say, do not plug 2 heaters into the same outlet. They draw too much power for too long. Even if you have them on low. Ok, but back to the hypothetical scenario. If you put two heaters into the same outlet and turn them on high they will pull more then the 15 amps for that circuit and immediately pop the breaker. Changing the outlet does not change the amount that the circuit will run. Now, that being said, what could cause problems is going to your breaker box and finding a 15 amp breaker that pops a lot because you are overloading the circuit and just swapping it out for a 20 amp breaker. Now, that is a time that you can really cause some problems. I really hope this makes sense. Thank you for watching. Check out hundreds more of our videos at www.aroundthehome.org
@@AroundTheHome1 Apparently it's against NEC to put a 20 amp receptacle on a 15 amp circuit, so I would recommend instead getting a commercial grade receptacle, which will still be a major upgrade over those 99 cent receptacles.
@soundspark first I don't know why the 15 amp keeps coming up. I went back and re-watched the video from start to finish to see if I say anything about that. I don't mention 15 amps anywhere in the video. I mention in my response to the first comment here and I said that this circuit is 20 amps so I am not putting a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit. I went to my breaker box to check just now and I don't even have a single 15 amp circuit in my box. Also in my area, at least right now with shortages on a lot of building materials, there were no heavy duty 15 amp outlets available. There were only the standard cheap ones then the commercial 20 amp. Nothing in-between on standard non CGFI outlets.
20 amp outlet is okay. It might be the circuit breaker you're thinking of. A 20 amp breaker on a 15 amp circuit would allow an overload without stopping.
That was very informative. Your a good instructor. Thx.
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Looks like the little bag hanging above the outlet got singed at some time ago. Fabric lights more easily if it has been pre-singed.
The heavier outlet might help but it may not solve the problem. Make sure her room has a better-then-average smoke detector.
You're right the bag does look like that, but the heater does not sit there. So it is not damaged from the heater.
I have a lasko low profile heater that keeps burning through plugs the hot wire terminal in the plug gets hot and melts the plastic around
A heavy duty switch should help, you might also consider running that heater on a lower power setting. Space heater fires are no good.
Backstabbing is not recommended, some electricians use the quickwire or backstabbing method with 14awg wire because it's faster to install. Always use backwiring or sidewiring when installing receptacles and switches. Also don't use cheap 18awg extension cords with space heaters.
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You're welcome 😊
What brand is that outlet? I hear you on the 15amp. I don't think any of my breakers are 15amp. In fact a few of mine are 30 and 40 amp.
@Lisa Smith thanks for the question. My breaker is 20amp on this circuit, but even if it wasn't I would still put the 20amp outlet on it. The outlet doesn't change how much power is pulled through, just how well it handles it. Anyways, this was just what Lowe's had in stock. So, the brand that they have now is Eaton. It is a good outlet, but I do like the Leviton better that Home Depot and a lot of Ace Hardware stores have. I just have a Lowe's down the street from me, so that's where I get most of my stuff.
@@AroundTheHome1If this was a 15 amp circuit, it would be a code violation to use a 20 amp receptacle because it implies that the circuit is 20 amp and 12 gauge wire. You are correct that in reality it's not really unsafe unless you plugged in an appliance with a 20 amp power cord (5-20P). Highly unlikely, they are very rare. However, the 15 amp commercial grade receptacle is what you should use. Btw, a 15 amp duplex receptacle is code compliant on a 20 amp circuit, but I would still use a commercial grade version as it is virtually identical internally. In this case, if only 20 amp receptacles were available at the store, I get that and would likely do the same thing. You know what you're doing.
A 1500 watt heater will draw potentially 12.5 amps. You can check the actual amount with a clamp meter.
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If I get a chance, I will.
Still not safe. You need to know how many amps the Breaker in the sub panel is pulling without the space heater. Then decide whether or not it's safe to add a spaceader to that circuit. It's always a good idea to run A dedicated circuit for a space heater using 20 amp breaker and oulet, 10 gage wire. Now that's safe.
You're putting a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit.. everything I have read said that is a terrible idea
Doug, let me try and help here. Because it looks like you have like 25% of the info. I'm not sure what you have read, but let's try and break this down the best I can. 1st, the outlet doesn't pull power. It's just rated at 20 amps. And that means that is can handle a higher amp pull. Meaning that it has a heavier gauge contacts inside that will not fail or get heat fatigue so easily. So, that's the first thing to know why I did this because these heaters can pull a bit of power that will heat up the outlet. And they run for very extended amounts of time. So that's why the heat is important and the main reason for the heavier duty rated outlet. 2nd, you assumed that my circuit was 15 amps. This one actually isn't. It is a 20 amp circuit, but let me tell you why that doesn't matter at all. It doesn't matter at all, because the heater isn't pulling 20 amps. It's not pulling 15 amps. But if you flip bother power switches, turning it to high, I think it will pull like 10 or 11 amps. Which is a lot for a single plug on a 110 outlet. You might say hey, I have a skill saw with a 15 amp motor. Ok, sure you do, but it doesn't always pull 15 amps. When you are running it just holding it in the air it is not pulling 15 amps. When you are cutting a thin piece of plywood you are not pulling 15 amps. But when you are ripping the length of a 2x4 / 2x6 and you can really hear the motor working. Ok, then maybe you are pulling all those 15 amps. But how long are you doing that? 1 - 2 minutes? If you have one of these heaters trying to heat a large room so you have it set on high, then they are consistently pulling those higher amps. I know they cycle off for a few, but when it is cold out I bet they run for 30-45 minutes straight before cycling off for a few before they cycle back on.
Ok, but let's circle back around the your point about the 15 amp circuit. Let's say my circuit was 15 amps, because it very possibly could have been. And let's say that you are plugging two heaters into the same outlet and turning them on high. First, let me say, do not plug 2 heaters into the same outlet. They draw too much power for too long. Even if you have them on low. Ok, but back to the hypothetical scenario. If you put two heaters into the same outlet and turn them on high they will pull more then the 15 amps for that circuit and immediately pop the breaker. Changing the outlet does not change the amount that the circuit will run. Now, that being said, what could cause problems is going to your breaker box and finding a 15 amp breaker that pops a lot because you are overloading the circuit and just swapping it out for a 20 amp breaker. Now, that is a time that you can really cause some problems. I really hope this makes sense. Thank you for watching. Check out hundreds more of our videos at www.aroundthehome.org
@@AroundTheHome1 Apparently it's against NEC to put a 20 amp receptacle on a 15 amp circuit, so I would recommend instead getting a commercial grade receptacle, which will still be a major upgrade over those 99 cent receptacles.
@soundspark first I don't know why the 15 amp keeps coming up. I went back and re-watched the video from start to finish to see if I say anything about that. I don't mention 15 amps anywhere in the video. I mention in my response to the first comment here and I said that this circuit is 20 amps so I am not putting a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit. I went to my breaker box to check just now and I don't even have a single 15 amp circuit in my box. Also in my area, at least right now with shortages on a lot of building materials, there were no heavy duty 15 amp outlets available. There were only the standard cheap ones then the commercial 20 amp. Nothing in-between on standard non CGFI outlets.
20 amp outlet is okay.
It might be the circuit breaker you're thinking of. A 20 amp breaker on a 15 amp circuit would allow an overload without stopping.
why are you out of breath ?
Just a heavy breather
@@AroundTheHome1 exercising would probably help with that. That’s my guess