00:00 Announcements 00:48 The Zodiac Anagram 04:01 Theories We Don't Want 07:33 The John Parr Cox Book 08:34 The Edwards Dahlia Zodiac Certificate 11:19 We Found the Zodiac Killer 22:24 Suspect Lance Voss 29:48 Supporter ShoutOuts 32:44 How to Solve Cold Cases? 43:50 The Graphic Presidio Heights 46:07 Mark and Kevin Chat about the Zodiac 50:37 Zodiac Killer Truth .com
Hi, most of these books with titles stating that such and such murder is hereby solved, state ideas as facts. Very common and it’s unfortunately up to the discerning reader to edit those sentences. All of JTR is conjecture. Most of Zodiac is conjecture.
You mentioned Voss. Strangely, for a non arrested supposedly innocent person, he’s mentioned all over podcastworld. I’m going to listen now. Never heard of him!
Thanks for the shout out Ned. Appreciate the mention. With respect to the Black Dahlia Murder, the basic research that I've done (I'm not a facts and figures guy, I leave that to the rest of you researchers, my focus is word puzzles and ciphers, hence why the name is not EdEdwardsFacts) Cameron notes on his website, that Ed would have been born in 1928 and not 1933 as one of his birth certificates would say. One of the ways I remember this is, he was given his murderous name at that time, at his 'rebirth' in 1933 -- Edward Wayne Edwards. His mother was Cecelia Meyers. Ed would have been born with her name, as Charles Meyers (His middle name escapes me, like I said about facts, it may have been Edwards -- making his 1928 birth name Charles Edward Meyers). Ed would have suffered from the same affliction that Ted Bundy did as a very young person. Confusion about one's identity as it pertains to their birth mother. Ted had some confusion around being told his sister was his mother, or some such story. Ed would have been told that his Aunt was his mother or that would have become a part of his growing up due to his mother dying suspiciously from a gunshot wound. A self inflicted shotgun wound to the stomach, which would be extremely difficult to do, unless one is very flexible. After her mysterious death, Ed was moved from her care, and adopted into his Aunt's family -- the Edwards'. He would have a fresh start with them, he would assume their name, and he would be able to start anew, ostensibly without the shame at that time of being both a child born out of wedlock, and of his mother dying in a suspicious and possibly ignominious way. When I think of this part of his story, I think of the late episodes of the show Mad Men. We come to find out that the protagonist of that show -- the highly polished ad impresario Don Draper. An almost D.B. Cooper-esque, suave and uber-charismatic type. We come to find out, that his origin story is beneath quotidian . His origins are shabby and of ill repute. Consisting of growing up in essentially a brothel around all manner of loose women. He would flee his home and adopt a completely new identity . He would self actualize as the person he always wanted to be, instead of the station he was born into. He was a con man.
As far as being the Black Dahlia Avenger. The self-proclaimed and confessed murderer of Liz Short. I have no such proof that Ed is connected to that murder. What I do have though, are directions on how to solve a basic type of cipher -- one that has been around for centuries, and has been described on a website. That website centers around the murder of the Black Dahlia. It is obsessed with that murder, and goes on to describe, in detail all manner of things, both about her murder, and how to create a new type of cipher. It talks about how to decode a kind of cipher within communications that center around the Black dahlia murder. Peripatetic would be a word I would use to describe it. I've always been very good at reading comprehension, or what one might call 'deciphering meaning'. Ever since I was a young'un. And it took me a while to understand what I was reading at that website. They were instructions. But they were written in an esoteric way. Meaning, one had to understand what they were reading, and to read between the lines. Literally. I've taken two things away from that website. One is "Here's a cipher to look for, that is very simple, now just look for it, but you will have to figure out where". And two is, "Can you see what is invisible? Can you see, what isn't there, if I put everything else around it, but something is missing, can your brain see what's missing, if the same thing is missing every time?" I believe I can, and have. And I believe no one else has. What do I mean? Well I've gone on long enough, and this forum, of typing it out, is hard to break through to most, because most don't have the tenacity to do what I did, which was to read instructions possibly left by a killer, on how to find him. On his side is the seductive comfort that his story is untrue, because on it's face, it seems so ridiculous. So I'm working on explainer videos, because I've come to realize, I can visualize and think like the killer, and many people cannot. I'll hope to have some videos ready in the next coming months to demonstrate what I'm talking about. We'll be seeing you.
Hi. Thanks for the comment. Kathleen Johns was the woman with the baby. She estimated that the Zodiac was 5'9 and 160 lbs. The height is on point , but her alleged attacker sounds considerably smaller than the other witness estimates of someone at 200+lbs.
@@BlackBoxOnlineRadio Her story has been questioned lately. The part that has always seemed unbelievable to me is that she claimed to have launched herself and her baby from a moving car. Very unlikely. Then she claimed to have hidden in brush beyond the edge of the road with the baby. Really? After all this the baby wasn’t crying? Very unlikely.
Always amused that people think Voigt, Ned, Beeson etc are experts on this. All they do is support and interview each other to promote their sites. A small pathetic community that can't accept criticism and rebuke anyone that dares to suggest that these crimes were not committed by the same individual. ....but they love their coffee 😂😂
00:00 Announcements
00:48 The Zodiac Anagram
04:01 Theories We Don't Want
07:33 The John Parr Cox Book
08:34 The Edwards Dahlia Zodiac Certificate
11:19 We Found the Zodiac Killer
22:24 Suspect Lance Voss
29:48 Supporter ShoutOuts
32:44 How to Solve Cold Cases?
43:50 The Graphic Presidio Heights
46:07 Mark and Kevin Chat about the Zodiac
50:37 Zodiac Killer Truth .com
Always good to listen to another Zodiac Monday. I appreciate how you cover the Zodiac case Ned, keep up the great work and please take care!
I really enjoyed your recent show where you interviewed Michael Butterfield. Michael is excellent
Thanks!
Great as always Ned!
Thank you so much.
They think everyone is the Zodiac killer. The cops will never figure that one out.
Hi, most of these books with titles stating that such and such murder is hereby solved, state ideas as facts. Very common and it’s unfortunately up to the discerning reader to edit those sentences. All of JTR is conjecture. Most of Zodiac is conjecture.
You mentioned Voss. Strangely, for a non arrested supposedly innocent person, he’s mentioned all over podcastworld. I’m going to listen now. Never heard of him!
Hell yeah lets go monday morning
Thanks for the shout out Ned. Appreciate the mention. With respect to the Black Dahlia Murder, the basic research that I've done (I'm not a facts and figures guy, I leave that to the rest of you researchers, my focus is word puzzles and ciphers, hence why the name is not EdEdwardsFacts) Cameron notes on his website, that Ed would have been born in 1928 and not 1933 as one of his birth certificates would say. One of the ways I remember this is, he was given his murderous name at that time, at his 'rebirth' in 1933 -- Edward Wayne Edwards. His mother was Cecelia Meyers. Ed would have been born with her name, as Charles Meyers (His middle name escapes me, like I said about facts, it may have been Edwards -- making his 1928 birth name Charles Edward Meyers).
Ed would have suffered from the same affliction that Ted Bundy did as a very young person. Confusion about one's identity as it pertains to their birth mother. Ted had some confusion around being told his sister was his mother, or some such story. Ed would have been told that his Aunt was his mother or that would have become a part of his growing up due to his mother dying suspiciously from a gunshot wound. A self inflicted shotgun wound to the stomach, which would be extremely difficult to do, unless one is very flexible.
After her mysterious death, Ed was moved from her care, and adopted into his Aunt's family -- the Edwards'. He would have a fresh start with them, he would assume their name, and he would be able to start anew, ostensibly without the shame at that time of being both a child born out of wedlock, and of his mother dying in a suspicious and possibly ignominious way. When I think of this part of his story, I think of the late episodes of the show Mad Men. We come to find out that the protagonist of that show -- the highly polished ad impresario Don Draper. An almost D.B. Cooper-esque, suave and uber-charismatic type. We come to find out, that his origin story is beneath quotidian . His origins are shabby and of ill repute. Consisting of growing up in essentially a brothel around all manner of loose women. He would flee his home and adopt a completely new identity . He would self actualize as the person he always wanted to be, instead of the station he was born into. He was a con man.
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@@desolation2row Something I said???
Drew Beeson has me sold on Don Cheney Ned. I know you are friends with him. But, a lot of the pieces fit in my opinion
Ah yes, the old "whoever rhymed it, crimed it" or "whoever smelt it, delt it" theory...
As far as being the Black Dahlia Avenger. The self-proclaimed and confessed murderer of Liz Short. I have no such proof that Ed is connected to that murder. What I do have though, are directions on how to solve a basic type of cipher -- one that has been around for centuries, and has been described on a website. That website centers around the murder of the Black Dahlia. It is obsessed with that murder, and goes on to describe, in detail all manner of things, both about her murder, and how to create a new type of cipher. It talks about how to decode a kind of cipher within communications that center around the Black dahlia murder. Peripatetic would be a word I would use to describe it.
I've always been very good at reading comprehension, or what one might call 'deciphering meaning'. Ever since I was a young'un. And it took me a while to understand what I was reading at that website. They were instructions. But they were written in an esoteric way. Meaning, one had to understand what they were reading, and to read between the lines. Literally.
I've taken two things away from that website. One is "Here's a cipher to look for, that is very simple, now just look for it, but you will have to figure out where". And two is, "Can you see what is invisible? Can you see, what isn't there, if I put everything else around it, but something is missing, can your brain see what's missing, if the same thing is missing every time?" I believe I can, and have. And I believe no one else has.
What do I mean? Well I've gone on long enough, and this forum, of typing it out, is hard to break through to most, because most don't have the tenacity to do what I did, which was to read instructions possibly left by a killer, on how to find him. On his side is the seductive comfort that his story is untrue, because on it's face, it seems so ridiculous. So I'm working on explainer videos, because I've come to realize, I can visualize and think like the killer, and many people cannot. I'll hope to have some videos ready in the next coming months to demonstrate what I'm talking about. We'll be seeing you.
Calculations. Glad you mentioned that. All that radians stuff, do this, do that, you’ll find the bomb etc. That’s showing an interest in calculation.
Ned did you watch Nancy Dew channel about the Football player that could have been a suspect to Bates
Hi. Not yet, but I will today.
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Was he 5’8” or 6ft 2” ? …. And how did the lady with the baby in the car describe him ? She was with him a long time and very close …
Hi. Thanks for the comment. Kathleen Johns was the woman with the baby. She estimated that the Zodiac was 5'9 and 160 lbs. The height is on point , but her alleged attacker sounds considerably smaller than the other witness estimates of someone at 200+lbs.
@@BlackBoxOnlineRadio Her story has been questioned lately. The part that has always seemed unbelievable to me is that she claimed to have launched herself and her baby from a moving car. Very unlikely.
Then she claimed to have hidden in brush beyond the edge of the road with the baby. Really? After all this the baby wasn’t crying? Very unlikely.
Always amused that people think Voigt, Ned, Beeson etc are experts on this.
All they do is support and interview each other to promote their sites.
A small pathetic community that can't accept criticism and rebuke anyone that dares to suggest that these crimes were not committed by the same individual. ....but they love their coffee 😂😂
Thanks!
@@czguy3045 thank you so much.