Thanksgiving 2019 Review - Sid Meier's Civilization III (+ both expansions)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- In this review for Thanksgiving 2019, I take a look at the third main entry in the Civilization series and the last of the "old-school" Civ games before they over-complicated things with Civ4 and radically overhauled the gameplay with Civ5.
ESRB Rating: Everyone (6+) - Animated Blood, Violence
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This is partly nostalgia, but for some reason I love this one in the series more than the others-Civ 4 might be close. The way the game plays, and the sound design and music just gives me the fuzzies. There are so many satisfying moments, and sounds, and animations...it feels very tangible to me. It feels hard to explain. I gravitate towards the earthy, primitive sounds and aesthetic more than most so I think this is a game for me. The aesthetic and design feels like paper and clay, very primal.
The random number generator is not biased towards the AI. The AI cheats in pretty much every regard past the regent difficulty, but the RNG is not one of them. One of the problems is that most people don't understand the defensive bonus of the units, on top of the results being randomly calculated. A spearman has a base defense of 2, fortification adds a 25%, base terrain varies but the least is a 10% and going as high as 50% for hills and 100% for mountains. Fortifications can be built on top of those for even greater bonuses.
A spearman on a town build on a hill with walls has 100% (hills + walls) + 25% from fortification, and if that town happens to be across a river, a 25% buff is applied. Suddenly the 2 defense spearman has a minimum of 4 defense and could potentially have 5, which could be enough to give cavalry a run for their money at 6 attack, and to possibly stop an early era swordmen offensive flat on its face
A town that has reached 7 population will also get the innate bonus of 50%, at the tradeoff that walls no longer apply .
The easiest ways to deal with those bonuses is to use overwhelming force. The AI will rarely have more than 3 or 4 defenders even up to emperor difficulty. After artillery had been discovered that is also a great way to pretty much guarantee sucess. By artillery I mean the actual artillery piece, earlier form such as catapults miss too often and cannot cross certain terrain.
I got mixed feelings about civ 4. I have come to accept it and like it a bit, but I was royally pissed at a variety of things. Such as the replacement of advisors with clearly displayed info to stale screens that also failed to display the info they were meant to give, the removal of the right click quick reference to the civilipedia, the removal of the siege pieces to actually act as siege pieces and making them work as kamikazes instead, I generally like the civ 3 aesthetic more as opposed to 4, I find the leaderheads a lot easier to take seriously (Although not all are perfect) than say, pacal in civ 4, or others, the merging of the culture mechanic with city defense, culture implementation over terrain as a whole, making military affairs pretty much an all or nothing endeavor, etc.
The new strength point mechanic meant that suiciding anything against stronger foes will still kill them regardless if it's the counter unit or not. The new kamikaze catapults are exceptional as they are both cheap to produce and can damage multiple foes (at the cost of losing the unit because artillery is literally meant to be used as kamikazes)
I never understood the complaints about doomstacks and never will. Haven't played civ 5 or 6 just get but im sure that one is going to be a major annoyance. You build units, you put them on a stack. What a terrible concept. How im supposed to mobilize 30+ units for war if I can only place 1 for each square? What a bullshit solution for a problem that wasn't really a problem. If you misplayed and let the AI build huge forced, you could 1) march their forces 2) bribe others into war 3) use artillery to weaken the stack. All these are viable solutions and mind you, I prefer civ 3 take on artillery (that is, units that can bombard but have no defensive capacity and can be captured) to the absolute bullshit that is kamikazing artillery support into the enemy.
Civ 4 did some things right, IMO, like the civic system or the unit promotion, but it does have some things that bring the overall experience down for me
1) match* their forces.
Civ 3 is my favorite to this day.
civ 3 was my favourite. I only won 3 or 4 times, but I had a lot of fun going into civ edit and creating an island full of resources for myself to spawn on, then bullying the others haha
multiplayer works completely fine nowadays. you might dc every couple hundred turns? but you literally can get back into the game super easily. another thing is the game is in no way rigged towards the AI in RNG. the ai gets the exact same RNG as human player.
I never really got to play Civ2, although I had some minor experience with it. Civ3 was my first introduction to the series and it’s still my favorite. When Civ4 came out, I honestly hated it and just kept playing Civ3. It wasn’t until Civ5 that I was able to get back into the newer games because I felt like they had ironed out a lot of the most annoying aspects of Civ4.
The explanation that I love for spearmen defeating tanks is like mujahedin/Taliban fighting advanced armies in Afghanistan. Yeah they occasionally get their hands on WW1 rifles or on RPG's, AK-47 and even western gear but they want to live and their training sucks. So they can get a chance occasionally of defeating even Marines and Rangers and whatnot.
Or, even when barbarians shoot down a nuke - let's just say the fuse/explosive substance was of poor quality, the people that made or launched the nuke were not trained to deploy it properly.
Yeah I always thought the leader portraits in Civ 3 were strange and kinda creepy. On the other hand, the portraits did change and update to correspond with each new era... Civ 2 (animated advisors) did that too, and it's something I definiitely miss with the newer Civ games..!
Picked up civ 3 back in 01. Didn't know what the hell it was about. Got hooked on it ever since all the way till now to civ 6. I loved rise of nations also.
Wow! Coincidentally, I bought this on Steam just a few weeks ago and will start playing this week. I’ve never seriously played a Civ game before, and I wanted to start with an older title but couldn’t find legal copies of Civs 1 and 2 for decent prices (plus Civ 2 supposedly has compatibility problems on Windows 7 64-bit).
I’m wondering if FreeCiv may be a good substitute for Civs 1 and 2? Or is Civ 3 a good starting point?
FreeCiv is more or less a modified remake of Civ2. It's not really a substitute for Civ2 though. Civ3's a good starting point if you're interested in going into the older games.
@@DWTerminator FreeCiv has no Civilization music.
Happy Thanksgiving DW. I was just a kid when this released but i would like to go back and play it just to get an idea of what the civ series is about.
Much of the core Civilization absolutely *hate* Civ V and VI (as they're arcade/console BS), Civ IV was both the greatest and last good game in the series.
And those haters would simply be wrong. Civ5 and 6 are both good. They're just not the wildly overcomplicated mess Civ4 was.
@@DWTerminator If such players don't want an 'overcomplicated mess' they should just play an RTS imo, depth is the whole point of TPS really.
Actually if they want such an overcomplicated mess, they should just stick with the likes of Paradox's grand strategy titles. Civ was always aimed at a more general audience and Civ4 crosses the line into niche territory.
@@DWTerminator Indeed, Civ 2 and 3 are the best ones!
Nowadays the only good thing about Civ 4 is Baba Yetu. If I want a classic retro Civ experience, I'll play 2. If I want a modern, streamlined one, I'll play 5. But 4 just falls in the weird uncomfortable limbo inbetween, just like 3.
some good infos, but
the video does not show much, just one late game
and you are reading a long text in a bit boring way
It's Civ3. You're not going to notice all that many differences between early and late game like you do with 4, 5, and 6.
Also I'm not reading any text at all. I don't script my videos.
Happy Thanksgiving
What difficulty do you play on?
Underrail review 😁
Patience.
@@DWTerminator 🙂👌
For some reason I never was able to get into civilization series.
It's not a particularly easy series to get into.
How to play on Windows 10? I have monitor with 2560x1440 resolution.
Should just be able to boot it up and play the game. I certainly never had problems getting it running.
To get the game to display at your monitor's resolution, however, you need set the parameter "KeepRes=0" in the game's INI file to "KeepRes=1"
@@DWTerminator Thanks very much!
@@DWTerminator how do you access this file? I bought it on steam
The INI file is in the game's directory. Where that is depends on where your Steam games save to so you'll have to find that yourself.
@@DWTerminator thank you so much. Great video!
Waw this games graphics are amazingly dated
Nope i am such huge baby that my age is negative at this point