Line Breeding Dogs - a recipe for mutants? - Dog Health Vet Advice
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- What is line breeding in dogs and why should you care if the puppy you are thinking of adding to your family has been line bred? Line breeding is a form of inbreeding, mating dogs that are related.
This might sound like a terrible idea, and while it can cause real health problems in the puppies, sometimes they can actually end up being healthier than pedigree dogs that are not bred in this way.
The closer the relationship of the parents in line breeding dogs determines the chance of health problems being present - known as the coefficient of inbreeding. Sometimes it can get very complicated!
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In working dogs we breed auntie to nephew or uncle to niece and it works really well without health issues. We also do “double crosses” which means they have the same grandparent on both sides, works really well.
@@Iraqi_Assyrian313 you're magnifying traights. If the father has health issues they'll come to light. If it's a line of top bred dogs you'll magnify good traights and get a desirable dog. One of the best kelpies I have is by a dog named Gogetta Brue on both sides. Not a single health issue either.
Is that mean Ipmy dog can breed hid grandmother? Is it ok?
@@aurriellekhristelhermoso8862 hey, would you be able to reward that for me and I'll see if I can help you out
Can you breed a first litter male with a second generation female ? Chihuahuas?
@Jordan Bowey that’s right, Sir!!! WORKING… is the key word😎👍👌
We had a shetland sheepdog from a famous 'carefully' line bred pedigree of North American show dogs. He was gorgeous, very typey of his breed and excelled at agility. Though we didn't show him, he was of show caliber. Unfortunately, he had the most health issues of any dog we've had. A tendency to huge lipomas at a young age (started at 2 years old). Gallbladder disease by age 8 (common to this breed) and cancer at 10, at which point we tragically lost him. We are still heartbroken, and would not look at line bred pedigrees again. Even though there are no guarantees with health and longevity, I still feel it's taking an extra gamble.
The great great grandfather of my 7 month old female German Shepherd is the father of my 4 year old male.
Can any say I have an rott female she has 4 litter done but no puppy survive . I think so it is due to brother sister cross is it or any another problem plz suggest me
You can't breed brother and sister. It doesn't work out well
I know this is an old video, but that mic looks like a side-address mic. If you're talking into the top, it's supposed to be the side (if it's side-address).
Thanks but it is a unidirectional mic and this is right, although I know what you mean about how it looks. The model is a heil pr40 if you’re interested!
Mate if you have dogs with a cor with less 5 percent is a scatterbred dog and is unlikely to reproduce his self how many lines of dogs 🐕 have you yourself bred, ?
Linebreeding is not breeding dogs from the same family. That is inbreeding.
Linebreeding can be good or bad depending on the health of the dogs used.
No. It's bad. Just don't do it.
My dad really wantes to do this to our dogs but doesn’t understand the consequences
Question can i breed my dogs that have different moms and same dad?
That’s not something I’d recommend
Carlos cervantes yes you can and is alowd by the kennel club the best way is granddaughter to grandsire, but NOT grandson to grandmother it will not give you anything, a half brother sister matings will work same stud top and bottom put over two different females will give you good percentages of puppies carrying traits you want then select from there your foundation stock for breeding to cary on your program providing your dogs are not tight inbred dogs to begin with, if they are tight breed dogs then you go for a loos line breeding or a total out cross then breed back in agian!! this guy has more than likely never raised his own line of dogs 🐕 or he wouldn't be talking complete rubbish!! If you want the same traits and look you go back to a true proven producing male, with the out cross being the two unrelated females wich will give plenty of genetic diversity in your puppies provided all your dogs 🐕 are health tested and clear of hereditary problems you are best breeding this way,
If your dogs are healthy without genetic disorders yes you can, I’ve seen mother with son and then with that puppy again so mother was a grandmother and a grand,grandmother also, and I have been breeding siblings together.. but remember that bad genes also duplicate as the desired traits ! In your case that would be the genes of the grandfather so look that dog carefully, but it’s not hard inbreeding so even if some puppy might get bad genes, all of them will not I guarantee you that (I know that no one can’t know that for sure but I’ve had seen it too many times, trust me no problem)
Can I breed my female dog to my male dog when the male dogs grandma is my females mom?
No too close
This guy is not a breeder? Surely not!
You said 25% coefficient of relation, COR, for siblings but I’m pretty sure it’s 50%. You have to take in consideration both parents so it would be 25% from father and 25% from mother so actually siblings would have 50% COR.
Father daughter breedings will have 75% COR and that is pretty high. You don’t really wanna go over 62.5% COR although it is done sometimes. Above 62.5% can quickly lead to health problems.
It is 25% for a sibling mating:
www.thekennelclub.org.uk/health/for-breeders/inbreeding/
www.dogbreedhealth.com/a-beginners-guide-to-coi/
Jakob you ain’t wright cause father have his father and mother also.. grandparents are not one exactly the same dog, so dog can’t get 50% same genes he must get something from grandma also not just grandpa... i hope u see where I am going with this, i don’t know how to explain better..
@@ludikonj8927 I understand what you are saying but if that’s the case then it would be more like 8% since they both also have the same grandparents, great grandparents, great great grandparents and so on.. so generally when calculating genetics you stop at the place they overlap which would be father and mother, so 50% is used for litter mates. Otherwise you would never have a stopping point.
Someone says that having sex is good for their health.. They get open up and grows faster.. Is this true?
Look at his british accent 👁️👄👁️
That’s why it’s so important to get a puppy from a responsible breeder in these cases! Although, responsible breeders don’t usually breed dogs that are THAT closely related (ie parent/offspring or sibling/sibling, etc). GOOD responsible breeders will very carefully breed dogs to avoid undesirable traits or health problems.
The breed I own (Miniature American Shepherd) still has an open gene pool all over the world. In the US, it’s a bit more closed up, as the breed is now recognized in the AKC, but in certain, very specific situations, they will allow a dog in from outside the registry. Outside of the US, it is not yet a recognized breed, so they are importing dogs from the US and also allowed to add certain other dogs (Australian Shepherds, ideally smaller ones) as they develop it outside the US.
In my opinion,linebreeding is not good .In working dogs for much better and tougher dogs it's far better to breed from unrelated dogs .Now by seeing both parents working and doing their job properly,would tell me that both dogs including their confirmation are suitable to breed to each other .The chances of the pups having a high amount of inherited working instinct in them is increased .I cannot see how depriving the gene pool by inbreeding will work long term .Those that advocate it the strongest might be of the opinion that what they have is too good to outcross.Well isn't that what explains in human terms the hatsbergs jaw in European royal families and many more .I once had by accident a dog that mated with his daughter ,Four died at two days old and I said I'd give the surviving pup a chance .It was an utter and total fool and at two yrs of age I had it euthanaised .You could teach it nothing because it hadent the capacity to learn ,and when you offered it a tit bit it snapped so hard it bled your hand .Isn't all the problems inherent in certain breeds attributed to line breeding ,So where do these breeders draw the line .Unless you read both dogs pedigrees very carefully ,some may not see that the pup there about to buy is line bred .Like I said and not for changing . Outcrossing to unrelated is a far better idea .It adds far more vigour to the pups born . PROVIDING,and only both dog and bitch are good at doing their jobs,AS TO the scattering of Outcrossing .Surely two of say a litter of 8will be good ,Euthenaise those that don't fit the the bill .This then ensures the undesired traits don't multiply and taint the breed yet again .If this breeding was ruthlessly applied all breeds would be far better for it ..But unscrupulous money pedigree obsessed X show ring winners who own these interbred dogs wouldent be even remotely tempted .We know to create a pure breed interbreeding was necessary to stabilise the appearance and traits of any dog breed ,The thing is that to them make it strong it was mated to another breeders dog who did exactly the same thing .In affect it was outcrossed to totally unrelated dogs to strengthen up the inbreeding weakness ,Intelligent People wouldent interbreed to their own cousins .Why do they advocate doing it to dogs ,There a showered gundogs now that have virtually lost all their working abilities and aren't worthy of the name on their breed ,