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damn Teccy's dad is based af
Bro got pinned immediately
all I got from this video is this point exactly lol
most based dad ever
Lets not forget how it started. Dad do you think women should be able to have an only fans?
we love him❤
Noone hated him, he just said stupid words. The reality is that he isnt always right
Fr he’s confidently wrong sometimes. When people get these echo chambers in their chats they just turn delusional and believe everything they say is the objective truth. I cringed so hard when Asmon was a try hard lawyer with this Atsu drama recently 💀
@@EyelessAugust That's different, he HAD to because if he didn't everyone would think he was siding with tectone because they're friends
so what did he say wrong thos?
The thing is, he was talking about the social battery in the video. Everyone only listened to this one clip to shit on him.
@@ursusgameing5433 he didn't actually talk about what was the troubling part of the clip. Anyone with a capacity to empathize with others can say "Sure yeah, streaming can be socially exhausting." The problem is Hasan made the dumbass take of comparing miseries. Saying things like "real job" and what not. And by doing so basically dismissed anyone else who has their soul sucking job as "you don't know how good you have it" when in reality, it's 100% the other way around, if we REALLY want to nitpick. I hate comparing miseries, but the difference between a top twitch streamer and a person in a regular job is that the person who goes to the regular job doesn't have a choice! Tectone, Asmon, Hasan, etc. can all decide how long they stream for, what days they want to stream, what time they want to stream, etc. Social battery can still be drained with all this in mind of course. But the biggest difference is they have a lot more control over it than the average person.
Man I work in Mental Health and having to deal with people going through psychotic episodes and delusions and having almost no tools to help deal with the scenarios that pop up is absolute hell. I would kill for a way to make money by just chilling with some people and shooting the shit. Yeah streamers and content creators deal with shit too but I just feel like its not the same. I work 16 hour shifts constantly and still barely make enough to live even with my fiance working as well. Its just disheartening to see this take from someone who seemingly has it so easy. I'm in a job where I have to be there all day and take verbal, emotional, and sometimes physical abuse and the most fucked part out of it all is the fact that I can't afford to take days off. Its a luxury that unfortunately nowadays only people who make absurd amounts of money are able to have. I appreciate you covering it Teccy, been a long time fan and hope your mental health has been staying strong. Keep it up egg man.
Tectone agreed with the take what u mean?
@@MavethTheReaper I didn't say he couldn't agree, I was just saying I appreciate him covering it
@@tylerwilliams4408 he covered it to agree and proved he's just as out of touch but ok
People who are out of touch need examples like these to better understand why they are out of touch. Communication is super important more now than ever.
Youre doing Gods work 👍
I see the point you made that 99% of streamers don't make money, even if you're not taking it too serious. Just because you're online, fired up a stream and have 1 viewer, doesn't mean that's now your job description. I don't think it becomes a person's "job" until they commit to it via having equipment and a schedule, are entertaining and can prove their concept works.
My cousin does it as a hobby and get 3 viewers at best. Tecton should shut his mouth about topics like this, makes him look bad.
How's it making your cousin look bad. Tectone is stating a well known fact that, and showed evidence of it like what? @@Danksforbreakfast
I'd go so far as to not consider streaming/content creation a "job" until you're making enough to cover bills and essentials. While still having something for leisure.
as far as that goes, you need to be pretty well established and a considerable following to get that to happen.
While, you can do that with a minwage job kinda off-rip (depending on where you live). You'll still struggle tho, so with that I can see where his point lies.
@@DanksforbreakfastYou're right, your cousin could easily make a million dollars if they decide to become a real streamer but it's such a low effort job that's why they only do it as a hobby. Truly one of the takes of all time.
@@Danksforbreakfast yea your cousin prevents viewers from joining to accidentally not make money.
I'll go by Asmon's own logic talking about Blizzard employees boo-hoo whinin' and cryin': "Nobody else cares. It doesn't matter." You can stream as little or as much as you want, you are in control. It is only as hard as you make it. Once you pass a million bucks, you can probably stop streaming for like... at LEAST ten years. Minimum. If you're addicted and need the attention, just say THAT. Way more honest than trying to tell a 9-5er or a fast food worker "Gosh guys, this is actually a lot harder than it looks." To become successful, yes, but once you're there, you make the rules, and the only way you fail is if you goof up. Like becoming someone the audience can no longer relate to. Or letting YT babysit your chat while you pee.
Game development is objectively harder than reacting to videos and turning off stream whenever tf u want. That's y bozo is getting criticized
You overestimate how much 1mil is nowadays
@angellopez5315 What do you mean? That's enough to buy a house that many people working these 9-5 jobs can't afford at the moment.
@jinkun02 +1
@@kenngo3690it’s not enough to maintain it however. It will quickly run out because everything has gotten more expensive these days, especially if you have a family to provide for
Bro, I worked at Restaurant once as a waiter. There's no way I'm going back, it motivated me to study and get an office job.
Still suck, but working at restaurant drained you like crazy. Can't imagine physical labor job
So saying streaming is harder, is out of touch takes.
Yep, it's the whole "harder" part. If he would have just said that people don't realize how socially draining or hard streaming is, it would have been one thing. How he said it though...
@@rickyd2004 Take into account these guys are making bank also and prob could retire anytime they want.
@@MavethTheReaperthat is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. That's not relevant to the original Hasan clip, or his added context.
@janitorizamped wtf are you talking about, it's relevant because Hassan said he found streaming more draining than a real job, my point was people working real jobs cannot quit or retire or call the shots like a streamer can
@@janitorizamped tired of people defending these garbage ass takes
@Tectone The point isn't even that streaming can't be a bit draining. The point is that every job, no matter how good/luxurious is going to have downfalls. So, complaining about how your social battery is drained after making $2k+ playing videogames/watching videos/talking in a day is the most fucking disconnected cringe thing someone can do. Which is also why people can't stand Hasan, every take he's ever had is disconnected asf.
Yes but these guys agree with him, what does that tell you?
@TheReaper Them agreeing with him isn't the problem because on it's face he's not wrong. Streaming to thousands of people most certainly is socially draining, the problem is more that WHO CARES that you're socially drained making millions doing what almost everyone wants to do every year and they don't see that because they're in the same boat lol
but it is kinda hard to stream? I mean, imagine sitting and talking for 8 hours straight? it is not like news host or radio podcaster with breaks it is 8 hours of social interaction. Seems hard to me
@@MavethTheReaper Also I watch a decent amount of Asmons stuff and he's def has some questionable/wrong takes but aside from those he's usually not too far off
@@olegtrushin6220 depends on your definition of hard. It is socially draining sure, but every job has a downfall. That has to be the easiest thing to deal with out of every other negative thing you could have to deal with.
Even if this is a full-time job, being a TH-camr or Streamer has one thing a "real" job doesn't: The ability to disengage from the audience. Someone in chat being a douche? Ban em. Comments full of hate? Block em.
As for the job aspect. Last I checked, YOU set your own hours. YOU decide what and when to stream. Sure, your audience will favor things, but no matter what, they are there for YOU, why do you think reaction content is so successful? Because they want to see THE STREAMER react and not the content itself. Asmon and whoever else can whine and moan about the cons of the job, but they can all be easily mitigated directly. Whereas a normal job, you can't just ban the customer and never have to hear from them again. You can't just end the work day when you get tired. You can't just change your schedule around something that comes out of the blue.
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I work in retail. Yes you can literally do all those things you mentioned that you can apparently not do. Hasan mentioned retail as comparison for a fricking reason.
If a customer is a loudmouth dickwad in the store you can ban them from entering and even call the police if they keep going outside.
If you are extremely exhausted and completely drained to the point of basically sitting down and almost sleeping in because your battery is drained you can talk to your manager about leaving early. Youll have to still do the hours later on but thats beside the point.
If something important comes up you can also talk to your manager about the issue and they !will! find a way to make it work unless it 100% does not work out in your favor. But usually it does cause usually it isnt that big of a deal.
But here is something a real job has a positive in over streaming: Paid vacation. If you stop streaming for even a day, income of that day is Gonezo. Sickleave? Yeaaaa about the money btw. PC in repair for 3 weeks? Damn that paycheck is gone. You dont have that issue with a "real" job. Only putting into qoutation marks cause you consider streaming not a real job. It is about as real as any other job. Its called being an entertainer. Something I am weirded out by you overlooking it cause you literally state how people are there for the streamer. Why? Why are they there for the streamer? Cause the streamer is entertaining.
@@GikamesShadowyou have to be delusional to think u can ban the customer or u can leave anytime u want it might be true for some places but 95% of the places u can’t. U are talking about paid vacation, u know average guy working makes around 50-60k while streamer like Hasan or asmon or teccy make that in 15 days. They can stop streaming whenever they want because they got the resources, average worker can’t quit, he has to work even if he is sick.
@@GikamesShadow One of the most delusional things i have heard in my entire life.
@@GikamesShadow I want to see you try banning a customer without getting fired (and potentially sued). Go ahead, I'm waiting.
ngl his dad yapping about politics was really funny, it came absolutely out of nowhere
most parents nowadays lmao
@@Waifuforlifuhahaha u get that right
Blud really made almost 1,5h reaction of 17 minutes video
Isn't this what you wanted
What is he even talking about? This response is soooo weird it's funny - protection of friend by frustration directed at some things out of ass... xD He should watch take of Kira on this.
Its better than just sticking his face on the video and saying nothing
Yes because he creates nothing
Thats why he is the yap king
A streamer gets harassed by a viewer, they can clap back and then ban them. Working customer service and a customer harasses you, not only do you have to sit there and take it, you have to apologize to them. Doing anything else will get you fired. Unless you make enough to be a full time cc, you cant consider it as a main job, at best its a second part time job, at worst its a hobby to make some extra scratch. Most people with a second part time job dgaf if they keep it and will walk away if it becomes even slightly stressful because its not their main source of income and easily replaceable.
this comment just reminded of my time working as a call center agent angry customers, and customers who talks smart but are actually dumbasses. the experience was full downs but there were some ups too.
And this is why Tectone, Asmon, Hasan etc. are so out of touch with reality. Because they don't understand simple things like this.
Customer isn't = viewer if anything the customer could be compared to twitch itself as the platform and/or your sponsorship deals
@@paladinplayer It works exactly the same as any other entertainment gig, like plays, concerts or stand up. Twitch is the venue, the streamer is the performer, and viewers are the patrons. Viewers pay subs (cover charge) to Twitch who takes their cut and then pays the streamer. Streamers are called partners/affiliates for a reason. In the case of sponsorships, the streamer is more like a temp employee. The sponsor pays the streamer to sell their product to the viewer for them.
Very great point on this whole streaming vs real job debacle
I like Asmon
He was dumb to agree with Hasan instead of shutting his mouth
And tectone now agrees with them both
Didn't asmon say sum about a job giving you a few weeks notice before firing you. As if they won't just get rid of you in the spot
@@MavethTheReaper streamer covering each other ass is nothing new
@bleachknight90 I think it's more like Asmon defended Hasan because they're friends but didn't see the full context of the clip at first, then doubled down because he hates being wrong. Tectone then went to defend Asmon because he respects him and saw the content opportunity. Asmon and Tectone aren't nearly as out of touch as Hasan the socialist.
social battery wise is the topic while you as an idiot only took the out of context video lol
How many 9-5 workers would trade their job for the same pay being a streamer?
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How many streamers would trade their job for the same pay being a 9-5 worker?
If the struggle was the same, or just as draining, or comparable in any way, then both demographics would see no reason to swap jobs if you control for pay and/or time worked.
But that is simply not the case.
There is no streamer that would swap streaming for a cubicle or assembler position. Whereas most people would absolutely trade the office or brick and mortar store position for streaming video games, imo.
When making silly comparisons like the ones these rich, out-of-touch assholes are making, you have to control for the variables that they are conveniently leaving out, especially if one of those assholes is Hassan, aka, Champagne Socialist.
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they are really out of touch. teccy saying people with a normal job earn more than streamers by comparing a normal job to people who stream as a hobby to 1 viewer or sharing a game with a friend is just bonkers. he thinks very single person on twitch does it as a job when in reality for the most people it's a hobby or a tool to share live gameplay with friends. it's like going to an amateur football match and telling people they are wasting their time because they get more money flipping burgers at a fast food chain. or even better, going to fast food chain workers and telling them how stupid the people outside are for playing football when they could earn money flipping burgers.
the only job asmon ever had was a gov job so that dude has no clue what real works means. but from teccy I expected a better take since he is bragging quite much how he went from a bum to a millionaire. he should have known better...
no one cuz growing as streamer isnt easy, why would they trade it? are you idiot?
This is a bad example. Most 9-5 workers only want to be streamers because they see it as an easier job they can slack off at. The problem is you need a good work ethic or you will fail.
@@cynthiahembree3957 control for pay and time worked...you still think most factory workers, or chain restaurant workers wont trade?
how many streamers would trade their streaming job for a 9-5 that paid the same?
lets keep it 100 now
The grass is always greener on the other side
this is the same take when most people's dream job is being a streamer and you are not allowed to say being a streamer is difficult. i think asmon covered the topic previously and the community's response to this just proves his previous point.
From 17 mins to an hour and a half vid, bro was yapping hard 🗣️🗣️
Fr fr 🗣️🗣️
That's why he makes 100k a month streaming and you making minimum wage.
If you don’t have to worry about starvation and being homeless, living paycheck to paycheck, I’d say you don’t experience “survival stress”
If you have a phone or computer then you don't experience survival stress either. Nobody having this conversation experiences that except people who engage in violence like actual soldiers.
@@janitorizampeduhmmm soldiers have millions of dollars of logistics behind them. Maybe if you said hamas
that's one of the dumbest takes now days plenty of jobs require you to have a phone so you can be on call and pay so shit to the point you live on paycheck to paycheck to survive what are you 5-16? cause you clearly don't know how the real world works for some people
@@specialedclass2982 your comment is so braindead, I don't even know where to start... You don't know what a soldier is, you don't know what violence is, you clearly either don't understand what survival stress is or you think that millions of dollars of logistics somehow stops bullets. What else do you not understand?
@@janitorizamped why are interest rates at 7 percent?
Asmon could never admit he was wrong, brother in christ taking a step back and admit that you had a bs take and move forward would earn you more respect. Like he said nobody cares how you feel just do your goddamn work, if your work was shit then fix it.
I mean all big streamers are narcissists you have to be. I agree with asmon more than hasan but the fact is neither they nore teccy will ever admit to being wrong
this dude is one of the most close minded people I've ever seen. he never admits to being wrong even when his own community is overwhelmingly shitting on him for being FACTUALLY wrong. I remember he had some wild take on league of legends being pay to win or something and would not budge on it despite never having played the fucking game. he eventually relented and moved on, but never admitted he was wrong even though his entire community shit on him.
That was a rare terrible L take from Asmon. It was very out of touch, imagine agreeing with someone who says it's normal to make 1k a day lol.
1k a day? Sign me tf up 😂😂😂
so you didnt listen to what he said, left out meaningful and very important context and nuance and now call it an L take. But now he is the one who is out of touch?
Not that rare. He has at least 12 dogshit takes a year.
@@nomadraiderasmongold dent
@@nomadraider lmao you're saying Hasans/Asmon defending him wasn't out of touch here? Defend you're point because I don't see it as even slightly redeemable.
I think it's not that people do not realize streaming is not draining, alot of things in life can be draining, it's how Hassan said streaming is more draining than a "reaL" job, Hassan is a rich man, has always been rich, legit lives in a privileged life and that's not a knock on him, I say that to say when you say streaming is more soul sucking than a normal 9 to 5, I think you are a tad out of touch, because streaming you sort of control your life in a sense, sure you can get push back, racism and the like, but in a job you cannot turn these things off, if someone is racist to me at work which this has happened, I grin and bear it, I cannot turn work off, I cannot go take a bathroom break every hour, eat anytime I want while gaming, I am not saying streaming is easy by any means but to say it's more draining than a normal job when people have to work, they cannot turn work on or off. People weren't pissed at Hassan saying it's draining it's him saying it's more draining than normal jobs lol, Srry Teccy this was an L, I thought even tho Asmon was your friend you would disagree, guess not.
Yeah, both Tec and Asmon ignored the more/way more. Dealing with the same Aholes at work, day in day out without being able to block them is extremely socially draining.
@@rickyd2004 Right, Tec just focused on his own biases at the jump, I knew he would agree with Asmon, it's sad we live in a day and age where we prop these streamers up when realistically they would not be where they are without us, yet have the nerve to say our jobs ae not as draining as theirs, tf?
yeah he literally can use his money to idk talk to someone about his "stress"
ya all just twisting words like go wash your ears I would hate to talk with ya all in person cause you would'nt understand shit and push false narative
@ursusgameing5433 imagine defending garbage takes
Oh a streamer out of touch with reality who would've guessed
gotta love it when streamers who sit in their bedroom for 98% of their life talk about the work force like they know literally anything about it
kind of like how people who have never done streaming/entertainment talk about it like they know anything about it?
Or how people defend people with trash takes@@Vauthe
@@Vauthe At the end of the day it's a privileged position built on the backs of others. While people in entertainment do provide some service back to society these top streamers, TH-camrs, celebs are GROSSLY overpaid for what they provide. It's not their fault. That's life and times we live. What is so off-putting is they fail to acknowledge how LUCKY they are in their role. It wouldn't hurt to practice some social humility.
Think of it this way. If you ever had a rich friend. You don't care that they are rich right until they hit you with the "My life is hard; I only had loving parents, a mansion and stability." moment. It's not super horrible but tone deaf.
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That’s a straw man, though.
You’re using the economic position of the guy to assume how his life is and to invalidate something that is true.
He may be rich, but if his parents are dicks then pointing that out isn’t saying “my entire life from top to bottom is trash”.
To say that streaming is socially draining is not saying that it’s the hardest thing in the cosmos. That’s something people made up into their heads out of jealousy.
asmon worked at the IRS for 7 days bro. check yourself before you insult my king. 7 days is a LONG TIME. he has loads of personal experience to speak from.
Tbh, it's the fact that these two people who make a lot of money and are WELL off from streaming are talking about it in such a way that rubs me the wrong way (choice of words and all that) Streaming, for the vast majority of people that are trying to make a comfortable and stable living from it, is very difficult in the sense that smaller streamers are putting in so much time and effort with such little reward in the beginning. Once you get to a place of comfortability, yes, you feel pressured to not take any days off to maintain consistency, relevancy as both a streamer and in the algorithm. But... it's a dream job. I feel like all jobs meet different social demands.. And when you sign up to be a streamer and end up having thousands of viewers... don't you expect that kind of social battery drain? Ultimately, you pick your poison. But they both worded it in a way that discredited/invalidated lots of people that feel drained after working regular jobs. Think about the people that work regular jobs AND get home to throw up a stream/edit in hopes of MAKING it as a streamer one day. People strive to stream because they would RATHER take a social battery drain after 9 hours of streaming, rather than the soul sucking drain of regular work.
100% and the point they made about smaller streamers barely making anything, well those streamers have to also have a job so it's even more work lol. Hasan is a multi millionare and has always been, with that level of money you can invest and live completely off of passive income. Therefor the only reason to still stream everyday is clout, more wealth, fomo, and personal choice. You are right, I am never mad at anyone for being rich, whether a streamer, ceo, drug dealer, OF model, do what you have to do! But just don't complain about it that's why people are upset. Because 99% of people will never reach that amount of money in their entire life
basically streaming is still easier than retail or customer service jobs by miles away,
Top 0.1% streamers whining about how hard they have it in life is just wild.
Spend the millions you make to take care of your physical and mental health, take breaks if you need them, pump out more content to make more money and keep living life
It's funny how you disregard any of the work the top 0.1% of streamers had to put in to be in the position they are now in
@@ArchDemonDI hope you dont talk about Asmon because that would be funny and stupid. Most lazy streamer that i have ever seen.
@@suomiapina89 you do know he had to stream for more than a 100 hours to get where he is at. Even if he is lazy he put in the work to get to the position he is in now
I never implied they got where they are without putting in any effort.
They deserve all the success they get.
Just stop complaining about how hard you have it to viewers.
Imagine Zuckerberg starts up a stream and says how he has to work 12 hours a day as a Ceo.
No one can relate to it, no one can sympathize.
They've made enough money to live a decent life 100 times over
@@kage6271 but they are still human. how can you truly say that since they have a lot of money, that they are living a decent life. humans are very complex and money is not gonna be the only thing that makes your life.
1:16:02 Actual guy who wrote that here in the "flesh", no idea if you'll even find me this time but I want to clarify my take since I think you have misinterpreted quite bit and unfortunately you didn't catch my response during the stream.
Me saying it's understendable for them to act this way doesn't imply at all it's a justificable behavior at all, it's definetely not.
What I was trying to do there was bringing some of my personal understanding regarding why people were taking that take so seriously, and my reasoning is that it's becouse job comparisons can easily be seen as personal attack by other people, especially those that are very unhappy with their job in the first place, those kind of people will latch on any chance of doing some dick measuring contest on who has it worse (though only when they think they can win) all just to feel better about themselves.
The reason why this is happening right now against Hasan, Asmon and streamers in general is simple, the golden rule of lashing out without any remorse baggage about your dubiously moral behavior is acting ONLY after someone else made some kind of "first move" against you.
The comparisons made by Hasan touched the subject of work "diffculty" in a manner far to wide that ended up touching the nerves of many many people that personally feel like they're living hell at their jobs, so they felt justified in doing a reverse move and shitting on the profession of streamers.
Now, we can't know who as truly the most taxing job, especially not if we're seeing everything from behind a screen, but I think in the first place there's no true objective way to say who has it worse at all, everyone lives things a tad bit different than anyone else, both social and physical work can feel the most exhausting kind to many different people, as such, both mind and body are vulnerable and require adequate care.
The only people we can say for sure have it good are those that enjoy their work, exept for them it's a very gray area to me.
Conclusion, these people are not right in their takes against streamers, not one bit (to me), but so are all the takes underplaying physical work completely in the wrong in my personal opinion.
Had Hasan examples only touched upon jobs he had personal experience with him saying "I find streaming more exhausting that this series of real jobs i've done myself" way way less people would have gone mad over it, and similarly so had Asmon adressed a similar point while still fully believing streaming to be a very hard job much much less people would have taken it out on him too.
I'm a remotely recent subscriber/follower so pretty sad that the first interaction between chatter and streamer of us wasn't very positive, but I'm really enjoying your content so far, even if you'll never see this comment I'll definetely keep watching your videos/streams while having a very positive opinion on you.
I don't believe for a single second that your twists to my message original intent, like saying I didn't have any problem about that 400 viewers streamer dumb tweet were volontary, though it's a bit reminesscent on how the twittersapiens operate by putting a whole full narrative in the mouth of someone that made a take not connected at all to said narrative, which is quite ironic.
I don't have it on you for that, let's be clear, the amount of negativity coming your way is a really overwhelming quantity to deal with, being dismissive of a message with some possibly very negative takes regarding your life job is a healthy way to deal with, certainly better than spenind 2 million neurons every time someone writes you a non 100% clear statement regarding a very serius matter concerning you.
Tldr over, my favorite parts of this video are definetely the call to your dad and the donation to that 100% rising streamer, especially the second, these kinds of charitable actions really warm my heart, I don't think you should define your personality as "one of the worst", rather than that you're one of the few streamers with the courage to EXPOSE his gray moral compass rather than PRETEND to be the saint almost no one in this whole world is.
Many of your actions I've seen in the last month are far from those of a person with a "worst personality ever", believing to be wholly good might be toxic but unless it's for irony stop being so sure of this "villany" in you that some people on this platform have lead you to believe to be.
(English isn't my main language btw, so in case sorry for any grammar horror you might find here)
He doesn't have to steam for 9 hours. He has the option to turn off the stream or stream less. He could quit now and live comfortably for the rest of his life. Someone working a normal job has to be there for a full shift. They can't just leave without repercussions.
It was a very bad take. Anyone defending Hasan will have a trash take
Its a pretty based take, the people who disagree are just jealous.
Honestly not that bad. He worded it a bit poorly (though in context he did explain what he meant).
Every job has struggles. People just get so butthurt for some reason when people who make a high amount of money vent that they too have frustrations and money does not in fact solve all their problems.
Personally i think because a lot of people spend their lives chasing being rich thinking its going to solve all their issues, and they dont like hearing that it wont.
Aba and Preach put it nicely: You're compensated more than enough(honestly too much) to not complain.
indeed, also nice to see a fellow creaky floor bro
Can't wait for asmon to react to this and put a 3hr video onto youtube
@@AnsonCarter-q1othis is the reason why Asmon is in this mess. Nowdays he lean heavily to react content and he thinks he is right about everything.
This channel is not anymore a video gaming channel it's more like a drama channel or who's blaming who review channel...just ruined
Don’t like it, don’t watch it.
@@AvgJoeSmoe357 yeah thats what im gonna do thanks for telling that tho
@@muntasirazad4438 of course
Why is it 90 minutes
Because you need that much time to say "It was a stupid take, even with context it doesn't make any sense or make what he said any less dumb".
Degrees are pretty useless right about now unless your going for a career
These streamers are so biased, it's actually insane. I like to see tecchy work a 9-5 for that .01%
Streamers, unlike most other jobs have the privllege to CHOOSE when and until when they are working while people who work in other jobs ("real jobs") don't, the amount of hours you're told to work is just that.
if someone annoys them (streamers) in chat they can either block or ban them while in other jobs you can't simply ignore a person/client/buyer etc... and would likely get fired if you do, you have to service these people no matter what.
Streamers don't have any boss to demand them to work + they get to choose what content they'll watch/play for the most part while in real jobs what you're given to do is what you'll have to do, even if you hate it
Both sides are draining socially but again streamers make their own time to work and so could choose to stream for 3 hours and call it a day.
The argument isn't really on the 99% of streamers who end up streaming to a few people because getting socially drained from that is very unlikely and most likely these streamers already have a 2nd job at the very least that earns them more money, and if so they don't HAVE to stream anyway.
Just my thoughts on this.
The point is that it’s draining, something some people don’t want to acknowledge, not that it’s the most draining or the hardest thing in existence.
@LuisBrito-ly1ko yeah very draining for mr asmongold and tectone. As if they both can't just take breaks whenever they want, or stop streaming. They literally already have millions. They're not like small streamers where they have to stream everyday to make enough money.
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They’re talking about the profession itself, not their specific cases.
And even then, you can stop streaming, but you can’t stop defamation, death threats, etc.
Also, “Millions”? Where?
Also they can play game, pre record stuff for 10 hrs. A days work. Then break it down to 10-30 min videos so they have weeks off
I legit think that if people just stopped watching these "content creators" for a month they'd change their tune real quick about what reality is like. These people, Tectone included, say some of the most disconnected, brain dead things sometimes.
Asmongold and Hasan has never even had a irl job
Asmongold worked for the IRS so that is untrue.
@@TengouXdidn't he work there so so little time it doesn't even qualify as work lmao
@@stefan1360 Two tax seasons, iirc. So what, though? An irl job is an irl job.
@user-tr3bb4zj5gIt's harder, didn't you hear.
@@TengouX15 years ago for sure😂😂😂 there out of touch and so you are 🤡🤡🤡
Meanwhile he says flippy should replace fast food workers because its such a miserable job that no human being should have or have available to work.
Also. To put streaming as more socially strenuous than both teaching and nursing when you can ban any ole person you disagree with at any time is insulting.
It's true tho, AI should optimise routine, not art
@@olegtrushin6220Then those people being without job, and being homeless is okay for you?
@@Arnveld no one working fast food has it as their sole source of income. They are typically working more than one job if they need to sustain themselves, or just college/high school kids who are doing it to make money on the side
@@sharkshimi5451more than one *fast food* job. You didn't think about your comment before you made it...
@@Arnvelddo you think you should still have to pay someone to pump your gas? Do you think we should still have people working in looms?
Obviously nobody wants people to be homeless. Obviously there are other jobs and other markets, and it will be a gradual transition away from burger flippers. Obviously you are intentionally acting like a moron to try to prove a really stupid point.
Looking at this video's like to dislike ratio I can't wait for Tectone to do a follow-up video called "why everyone hates me"
How bad is it in terms of % mate?
@@Danksforbreakfast 7:11 ratio
@@god8804 Mate could ya give me the ratio in percentage like its 40% dislike or something?
@@Danksforbreakfast Around 20-30% dislike (2.4k like, 555 dislikes atm.). Pretty common on some tec's vid. I believe he won't create a follow up just because of the like and dislike ratio. He deals with this kind of things on daily basis already.
@@HRavenfolks Asmongold may have more fans but it seems Tec's are more loyal.
I work fulltime as a teacher, been streaming and youtubing games for the past year, I have a small community but they're great, I've barely made $10 in the past year which is why I'm glad I work full time. Get a job first guys. Get into the routine of being tired but still pushing yourself. You'll develop good mental habits.
minimum wage still varies. Like I made 7.25/hr when i was in north carolina, and 10.50 when i worked at a store in delaware and that was AFTER a raise because the minimum wage went up. Neither wages can be survived on your own
Bro has never worked in a fast food restaurant or have been a blue collar worker and it shows
He literally said working at a fast food restaurant was harder than streaming in the first few minutes bro
@@seandylon talkin bout Hassan
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None of them have
Both mf would last in a warehouse job let alone a fast food place lol
Streamer man chooses this life... no one forces them into it.
THIS
are people forced to work at fast food restaurants?
@@ursusgameing5433 Did you go to the interview? Did you apply for the job? Those are choices whoever did so made. Stfu with your "are people forced". No one is forced to do anything. Even in an autocracy. You have a choice there, follow commands, don't and go to prison, or worse get executed. This comment is so smooth brained that the fact that I am even responding to this dumb shit is getting under my skin so I'll leave this with this statement... again... streamer chose this life... don't make excuses for him or her.
@@ursusgameing5433 okay yes and no if that makes sense ? for example i live in a rural area where there's only one local work place thats open all year round which is factory work i wouldnt say i was forced to work there but im very limited to where i can and cant work due to where i live. But i also agree streaming has its own baggage that comes with it and has its own stress and downfalls
@@Crustypantz alright sure that makes sense for rural areas, I hope everything goes well for you. Most people live in city's tho so I don't get what are they doing.
I work IT and god talking to 99% of the people I do to work out their issues is more draining than streaming.
Getting real sick of streamers that make millions of dollars complaining about how hard their lives are
From a 10 second clip out of a context of a 2 minutes clip to a 17 minutes asmon vid to a 1h+ teccy vid , tectone learned how to stall from asmon it seems
Teccy is so out of touch, if he didnt get lucky and blow up as a streamer I couldnt see him working a regular job. He, Asmon and Hasan have a privileged position of being able to sit at a desk and react to drama and other goings on in the world and only give their opinions on those matters, while their community funds their lifestyles while they yap.
They are part of the 0.1% for a reason. Same reason many don’t get more than 100 viewers in a stream. It still requires the skill to perform, knowledge of the industry and the ability to pull it off.
@@shaifs5072 I agree with you to some extent, cant watch Teccy stream anymore because it just depresses me that his main content now is centred around drama reactions and for me isnt entertaining, Asmon to me lives in a bubble, he does make solid arguments every now and then but refuses when he is wrong and called out for it.
@@shaifs5072 these streamers fall into a hole they dig where they genuinely believe they had complete control over their success, the skill. knowledge, and ability means nothing if they weren't given the chance to use any of the three in the first place.
@@jonnysilia5740 hit the nail on the head.
I quite like him , and can agree with enough of his takes . But his defenses of Hassan and a few others (like Pokimane) , aren't as based on pure fact and logics as he claim and thinks imho . I get it , he likes him , might even be enough of a friend ... but he gotta accept that Hassan is polarizing enough with his ludicrous takes to just inspire negativity . A lot of us got that one friend that "nobody" can stand , it is what it is .
Well hasan was just on asmon and teccy's podcast, so of course they can't call each other out. The upper level of streaming is a cult/clique just the same as hollywood. They all know each other and are all rich and out of touch, especially someone like hasan who has been a millionare since birth. At least asmon and teccy had to work for it
I feel like Asmon is being blinded by his own bias as a streamer, he has his moments of cringe but this looks like an obvious case of defensiveness. So he exaggerates his problems to make it seem like Hasan has a point when nobody wants to listen to millionaire streamers complain about how hard they got it. Small streamers, sure, but not these huge ones that don't even edit their own videos anymore because they're doing so good they have people to do that for them.
Another good point brought up by people that is going ignored for some reason is that these big streamers CHOOSE to stream 9 hours a day. They can set their own hours, a luxury most people don't have. They'd make less money, but people like Hasan or Asmon are making MILLIONS of dollars, they can stream less and take things a little easier but they wouldn't make as much money, which is where the boo hoo pity party that no one wants to hear is coming from.
There's this young fellow from Afghanistan who was the cook for a lebanese kebab vendor, great cook and fun to talk to and the amount abuse he got a lot of it racist driven or people being shitty was so much he quit, I was the last guy he served at the place before he quit, but that really shook me. It really put into perspective how hard it is in a job that requires dealing with everyday people.
I don't go to a 9 to 5 job and only do presentations.
Try to work in a Hotel esp. in Operation and let see if Asmon and Hasan can survived as a Laundry Attendant, having to work 10 hrs a day with a broken schedule that sometimes no dayoff in a month will drain you so hard you don't wanna work anymore.
Crazy how the Trial of Asmongold video got made before the Trail of Tectone lol
ngl teccy this one was rough…
I dont mind if people disagree with me, but I work two jobs and i used to enjoy the first one due to how fast paced and physical it was (stockroom for a retail store) and my second job is another retail store, only i set the salesfloor and sometimes ring up customers. I dont like my first job as much due to management changes, despite being really good at it. The other job is a little slower but i love organizing clothes and such and making shit look nice. Both jobs have exhausted me to the point that my off days are me just sleeping for 10 hours.
I dont bave a car, i take public transit and Lyft, i live alone and paycheck to paycheck and would love to have a streamers job in concept cuz who wouldnt want 33k a month? Or more?? But at the same time, i can agree with them on this. I think the fact that most of us do not have this lifestyle can see that its so much easier due to being in your home, being able to turn shit off whenever you want and being able to pay all your bills, and buy whatever you want .ofc it sounds kinda whiny to talk about how socially draining it is. But its an experience they have and i can understand that. I dont see how them venting or talkin about how true Hasan's statement is is a bad take. Yeah, people who dont do content creation have it hard in a lot of ways, and i think influencers do too TO AN EXTENT. I think Teccy says it rhe best though, saying its not a hard job but when youre real low man it could be a useless endeavor.
Could just be that im a sensitive bitch and i overthink things but you gotta deal with thousands upon thousands of people who take your words out of context, allegations that can rise up out of nowhere (like Kwite), your job can easily be taken from you if you mess up even for a mid mistake, every problem you have done or been apart of is forever held over your head, you are constantly scrutinized and berated so you need a thick skin to handle this, etc. this isnt to say they have it worse. Its not to say that we have it better. Its just to say, i get it. Thats just how i see it personally. Life is really hard imo and i sometimes wanna scream from the stress but idk man. I think this is a silly us vs them kinda shit.
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Why do people watch asmon btw? (A genuine question not hatred)
streamers like tectone, zyox, speed or kai are funny and entertaining but everytime iv seen asmon he's only yapping
Well the reason why people are mad about this take is because its who its coming from. As you see you actually put in effort to add things to others ' content by making this short vid into an hour an a half. However Hasan literally adds nothing, basically steals others content having it play while he's away. He lies and spreads misinformation which you can see a whole vid on him being exposed by Willy Mac. So yea he's gonna get a lot of hate which he mostly brought on himself, cus why would people working paycheck to paycheck care about someone with millions begging for money for 9 hours on stream, when they got work they break their backs for.
when will people realise that people on the internet are still people? they just assume that because the guy looks like he's having fun, he has the easiest job in the world, that's just not how that works.
What coffee is tectone drinking?
Proof that the Internet lacks more Auditory Comprehension than Reading Comprehension
26:45 that's one of the point you and your friend streamers can say whatever you want to your so called customers(viewers) without getting fired, unless its get way over the top, you'll just be fine. You can even blocked them and moved on, other jobs can't do that sht they need to still be polite when they handled crazy people all the time just to keep that job.
On the flip side, chances are that you’re not gonna see those same people anymore, and if they become particularly annoying they can be ousted.
Whereas the guy you just banned can make a second account or make stuff up about you on social media, which can unleash things like death threats.
personally I usually agree with Asmon but this take was wrong since you can always take a break from streaming, mind you its if you want to. That said with a real job which pays hourly you don't really have the luxury to take a break especially if you work a job where people call in sick, there a busy spell, or something else goes wrong. Sure with streaming it has its own issues too that why people take brand deals cause that's how people make their money cause streaming isn't viable on its own. The problem is if you're going to complaining about how hard streaming is and how tired you're maybe go talk to someone instead of spewing your complaints, Im tired of people who are financially stable complaining about how hard their life is online. I know people need to vent now and then but like idk find someone to vent to I guess??? I mean you have money use it LMAO.
In the end I still enjoy Asmon's content this one just a bad take.
Rant over?
idk what kind of job makes you not socially drained though. No one whos ever worked in a blue collar job ever goes "oh boy i finished work today, I want to go socialize". In asia we are even expected to work after hours for free so with the limited amount of free hours (like 2 hours) we have (if were not forced to go drink with our boss because of the drinking culture here) we dont go I sure wanna talk to my friends.
Teccy literally comparing a hobby to an actual job 😂
Streaming starts as a hobby until you get big, burger flipping at a McDonald's on the other hand is not
Although I agree that streaming is easier than working as a waiter if no money is involved but I would never pick streaming over working as a waiter I'm not willing to leave my livelihood up to chance.
I play games to destress and have fun but streaming just sucks the fun out of it.
I can understand asmon’s point. I can understand tectone’s point. I can even understand Hamas piker’s point.
The problem is that any “stress” socially or mentally incurred on the streamer is immediately handled by pressing the ‘go offline’ button. Normal people with equally socially or mentally draining jobs do not have this privilege.
With content creation there's this thing like it right that you can go offline at any time you want but if you do that you mait foul off and you become Irrelevant and no one wants to watch you or at least you feel this way become nothing is stable in internet
@@mohamedsoumri146 that’s not an excuse. “falling off” means your content is not enjoyable in the first place. but this is about the socially draining aspect. even if you’re streaming to 5 viewers only, it can be socially draining
Facts
Ya maybe i didn't say it right but I hope you get the point if you didn't make a lot of videos as a TH-camr or you didn't stream a lot as streamer your not gonna make enough money to make it as a job
@@mohamedsoumri146 yeah ur right but that’s still an argument about the success of a streamer, not the “work” of a streamer.
as someone who started working the 9-5 about 2 years ago i can say hassan is dumb for saying this. rich ppl really need to get back in the dirt and stay there when this happens. im constantly hating my life and cant stand the thought that this will be my life for the next 50 years or so. yes is streaming hard like any job? yes if you are going ham and making harder content and editing and tons of other stuff. also all jobs will leave you drained. ppl forget you have to talk in most jobs and it is draining. my team oriented office job is so tired some doing meetings, showcases or just talking and helping teammates or me getting help.
the ppl that we see and discuss this topic on stream are the ones making tons of money so i cant take them seriously anymore. its like saying only some of the ppl in owning and creating companies is in that 0.001% so most are just surviving and most are failing. times are hard and until we can spread the wealth this topic will never change. cant have unlimited growth for everyone in a finite planet.
in this video: john robertson defending his boss and grifter friend
I don't think the take is "streaming is easy and streamers are dumb" the take is "streamers are overestimating how bad their job is and underestimating how bad other jobs are."
So much of the "fast food makes more money than 99.9%" is assuming none of those people are working other jobs. They may very well be working an actual job that makes more or less than fast food, many of them may only be streaming just for fun
Its like athletes and actors. Yes you can have a hard time with the job.. but no one wants to hear someone with a high paying dream job complain about it. The comparison to average jobs was L take for asmon. Should have just kept it straight to everyone can get drained no matter the job.
i prefer moist critical archive 13 mins video about this rather than one and a half hour video. thanks.
tf you yapping about.
I used to work customer support for AT&T residential internet. That was a real job that 1 MILLION PERCENT drained the soul out of me...
Asmongold is defending Hasan who said that streaming is more draining than other jobs. If you know anything about who Hasan is it doesn't help his case. It's just a bad take that most people disagree with and if you're going to try to push that same argument I'll probably disagree with you too.
It's a bald-ception. The power of baldness has multiplied and blinded my screen with baldness
Streaming is a job just like me collecting unemployment is a job.
Hai Teccy. I would implore you to watch Aba and Preach's take on the situation. I think they best covered the misunderstanding of the situation.
Seeing half of the comment section here is reinforcing my understanding that most people will not watch videos but only comment because they have a narrative built up in their head that they wont let go even if their deliberate misunderstandings/questions/grand speeches about how hard their life is are answered and addressed in this video.
Holy shit.
I feel like I'm losing my mind just looking at these comments.
im an extrovert and i used to work in gastronomy my shifts were usually 11-12h long, i enjoy working with people and communicating but after i was done everything i wanted to do was to go to sleep and never talk to anybody elseXD
19:00 as someone who works in retail this is 100% fact. My husband also worked in the military and he loved his job as well, and that job is very hard.
Let's see what baldy said this time LOL
Love you tectone but this is a very bad take. Streamers in the top 1% dont gotta worry about if they cant pay their bills or provide for a family and heck even themselves. Top streamers could retire and chill, while most people if they loose their job they are screwed. When people are talking about streamers they are referring to the top streamers. The whole getting criticism argument is terrible. You guys can for the most part can ignore criticism and even jab back at them but most people have to sit there and take it so they can keep their job.
Ofc you will take their side.
The pot calling the cattle black :D
How did I watch this for over an hour without realizing it?
I share the same feeling 😅
I'm happy you're dad seems to be doing better. Unless he is still in the hospital, if so I hope he gets better. He seems like a fun guy.
So many big streamers wouldnt be able to even keep a normal 9-5 job for 1 month. Most of them would start complaining how hard and time consuming these jobs are without getting big money. The problem with big streamer is that they make to much money. Its the same with other categorys like sport for example. How can a soccer player get tens of millions for just kicking a ball, meanwhile the dude who cleans the sewer gets a pathetic pay in comparison. Despite the second one providing a very important part in this society.
My back up plan was I was gonna be a full time homeless person xD
always fun coming home from the gym feeling fine, and then a few hours later realising a part of you that you didn't know could hurt, hurts
Personally, I pivoted my penniless years of content creation into a applying and getting a very fulfilling job that is much better for an introvert like me than just streaming or making videos with minimal audience.
I like you tectone but I aint watching all dat I think many people in top comments made good points and even with context you, hasan and asmon took a massive L, customer service, retail whatever that means sorry man you can say whatever you want on stream, do whatever you want and interact with whoever you want and block haters, dont have to wake up in the morning, dont have to get to workplace, amazing pay, its undefendable incredible huge L take
Btw the point of this whole outburst isnt if it is or isnt soul draining, its about comparision, and no offence I am kinda getting tired of milionares who are getting carried by poor be either hypocritical or out of touch like in this situation
Sales and customer service are extremely socially draining. Streamers get to choose every single aspect of their content and schedule. If they didn’t want to talk about something, guess what? They don’t have to. I don’t get to choose what I do for work. I either do what’s asked and deal with it or get fired.
Tbh sometimes you DO need to become a full time homeless person, it helps
OMG I completely understand that impulsiveness. 1:02:40 Like, as soon as I have an idea in my head, I have to do it right then.
People who have seen the explanation that Hasan gave right after (as well as linking it on twitter) and are still on every reaction disliking and arguing against points that were never made are simply there to dogpile and try to make big streamers feel miserable. You all know damn well he didn't try to put anyone down and implying that he did from the full context is coming from a place of pure malice and jealousy, and I'm saying that as someone who'd usually prefer for him to shut the f up.
dunno i agree with most but not all people who stream are streamers, some do it in their freetime when they play games anyway just for fun. Also when you start streaming you start with a low viewercount hoping that it grows with time, i dont know if tectone would say that his streaming carrer was wasted with this in perspective. though i agree almost every job is shit, you most likely do work that is draining mentally or physically. sorry if i misspelled something im not a native speaker
That was an expertly timed belch.
Streamers have it too easy. The biggest ones can all quit tomorrow and will still have enough money for the rest of their lives (same for you Tectone).
I feel that the job comparison point being dismissed like that was missing the point. I do agree to a large extent that it's hard to compare jobs you don't have experience into because each job has a lot of downsides that one doesn't know when going into them, I feel everyone who did work somewhere had some unpleasant surprise, the point was exactly that, you can't make a rational judgement on something you're missing information about. Obviously for some jobs one can make a *guess* that is more accurate than for other jobs, but it's nothing more than an educated guess for a lot of them.
I'll bring an example, my brother works for McDonald's, and from working in the kitchen one can make career to become a manager, and my guess was that it would be just an "upgrade" from cooking, while he said that the reality is that he's seen managers work and they have a lot of work to do and a lot of responsibilities, so much so that the small raise you get isn't really worth the added workload and stress. Either if me or my brother are wrong about it, it proves the point that one can have a guess that is right or wrong, maybe he is right because he has in fact experience on the job, which I would assume it's the case.
Making analogies that don't work at all, like job experience and eating poop as a way to dismiss the argument instead of actually engaging with it isn't a productive way to have a discussion.
The correct analogy, if one wanted to make one, would be eating something that one doesn't have experience on, as in one has never tested before, and in that case, no you can't have a judgement on the food one hasn't tried, nor you can compare it to something else.
Teccy sometimes even i am amazed how do you turn a 17 min video into a 1 hr 15 min video
I feel like the streamers used to prove your point are not streaming 24/7. They are the streamers who just want to do it for fun and after their normal work. That said, the numbers are everywhere. On the whole, most streamers fail or are not able to make it a fulltime job.
glad to see dadtone in high spirits