HP Spectre x360 15" AMD Vega vs. Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 vs. Surface Book 2 Smackdown
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- Lisa Gade compares the Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 with AMD Vega graphics, the HP Spectre x360 15” also with AMD Vega graphics and the 15” Surface Book 2 with NVIDIA GTX 1060 graphics. All 3 are high end 15” thin and light Windows 10 convertible laptops with premium build, high resolution IPS displays, quad core CPUs, dedicated graphics and pen support.
HP Spectre x360 15” with AMD Vega review: • HP Spectre x360 15" wi...
Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 review: • Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 (95...
Microsoft Surface Book 2 15” review: • Microsoft Surface Book...
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Im not sure why im watching these videos, its not like i can afford any one of them. lol
Thanks Lisa, great vid!
András Egyed ikr me too
Same XD
Same here... but it’s free and ok to dream....
let's look at it as an exercise, for when we have one :P
She does great reviews.
That's rare. 15 minutes review video that doesn't have 10 minutes of fluff I have to skip past.
Three arm Lisa for president 2020!
THANK YOU! You truly care about your subscribers.
OMG LISA YOU DID IT
I've literally been googling and youtubing and researching this smackdown for weeks with no luck.
THANK YOU
What did you decide ?
Thanks for this hard work!
I was wanting to see this smackdown so so badly. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much, Lisa! Perfect video.
I actually bought the x360 with Vega M and have been kind of annoyed by the fan noise. It's a great laptop, but the fan is ALWAYS on. It drives me nuts in a quiet environment, even when it's just idling. Would have much preferred rear vents, the constant fan sound from the left vent really gets on my nerves. I'm sure I'll get used to it in time but it was a lot louder than I was expecting. EDIT: I ended up returning it. Between the crappy battery life, awful speakers, and non-stop fan noise, I didn't feel like it was worth the $1800 price tag. Everything else about the laptop was fantastic, but for that price, I have high expectations and HP didn't deliver on that.
N.ESS i also just got the Spectre and don't have any issues with the fan/noise. it's quite low when doing simple desktop stuff ( you don't really notice it) and only turns up when playing games. Try looking at your power/performance settings and/or do a default settings reset, like suggested on the spectre review video.
It's set to have the fans always running in the BIOS. You might hear the fan less if you turn that setting off though do anything slightly demanding they're going to turn on anyways.
I also have a Spectre x360 with the Vega graphiocs I just got and I initially would have agreed with thermal issues and BSOD crashes (mentioned elsewhere) but I did a factory reset and I couldn't be happier now. Great performance - about 50-70 FPS in Doom on ultra @1080 along with about 7 hours of productivity work with mid brightness. I don't think any other computer touches this for flexibility, but I think the initial image from HP has some issues that the factory reset took care of some how. Hope this helps.
roadrat11s I'd be wary a BIOS update fixed most issues for me but I was testing GTA V to see if it would give me a bsod and it still does it just takes a lot longer for it to happen. So if you're playing say the old doom something less graphically demanding it may be fixed... To a certain extent but if you ever try anything more demanding it could possibly still occur. I'm not guaranteeing it will but everyone claims it fixes their problems but for me it made a huge improvement but the bsod still lingered.
Hi, I too have a Vega Spectre 15 - Just wondering, did you do a factory reset via HP's recovery partition, or simply a clean reinstall from Microsoft? Thanks
I’m happy with my surface pro book 2. But yet I’m still watching this video 🙄😂
Noah Pearson hey can you give me your old laptop that you don't use anymore?
I'm happy with my Dell XPS 9570 and still watching this for no reason :)
Same here sb2 I still believe is the best out there...
I gonna do the same and smiling hehe
Most people will let the surface book's price keep them from even trying it out but once you pick up a surface book it's hard to put down. I have to admit I can almost agree with the price range after playing around with one my friend's surfacebook.
I went from a 2017 MBP to the SB2 and it's by far the best device I've owned. I'm not a huge fan of windows but damn... the build quality is good on this thing.
I bought Surface book 1 for my big brother after 1 year his laptop's screen died and microsoft said we can replace it for 600 pounds...
Found this channel while laptop shopping and needed someone knowledgeable, impartial, and able to speak without too much jargon. Finally decided which one to go for (Dell XPS) but I still come back here because it's a joy watching. Thank you!
Kristina Shands so.... how’s the dell xps? I’m thinking on buying it but I heard complains about the fan noise and thermal problems. I mean every computer gets hot when doing hard work but does it get really hot? To the point of being uncomfortable? As the hp?
If I had the money, surface book 2.
Still faster than you
You like your men slow don't you Vincent?
Seriously.
slow ?
Hi Lisa, love your reviews keep coming back to them. I am a Sound Designer and fan noise is a bit of an issue to me for recording and so forth. You mentioned fan noise from the x360 and xps but I was wondering what the noise is like on the Surface Book 2 15inch? Also have you ever thought of reviewing the HP Zbook x2? It is pretty much designed for creatives/artists with a Wacom style screen with pen and assignable buttons on the bezels. Thanks for your time if you read this and keep up the good work!
If you like the dell but don’t like the price point, Dell will price match the HP with their own XPS 15 and you can have it for $500-$800 cheaper than they’re asking.
Great job Lisa and thanks for the smackdown.
I will take a risk on the HP. By far the best value option in the UK and if the thermals seem to high I will try a factory reset and hope that helps.
I truly adore the SB2 but the complete lack of repair-ability and poor warranty means it is a no go for me, I need the machine to perform for a few years for it to be a good purchase. The lack of Thunderbolt 3 on the SB3 also hurts its longevity, once the 1060 is old and slow there is no way to boost the performance via an egpu. With the Dell/HP you can connect an egpu and get a full fat 65w cpu with the latest gpu power.
Lee Greenway I'm returning my HP Spectre x360 ch004. The screen wobbles a stupid amount in laptop mode. The fans are always on and audible. Add to that the camera and fingerprint sensor don't teliably detect properly. I'm gutted as I waited ages to get one. I'm now waiting for the 9570 and giving up on convertible devices.
Could you upgrade the HP Spectra x360 to the NVIDIA GTX 1060 graphics card?... and how do any of these computers compare to the HP Omen??
Thanks for the comparison! I bought the surface book 2 hoping to utilize the 1060 for VR also but... those silly engineers designed the usb-c port to utilize the integrated gpu first, even if you change all settings to dedicated. It's a hardware bus issue. Therefore, you get unavoidable latency with high frame rates while using that one and only video port... buzz kill...
I really like your videos, mainly I love the way you talk about technology, you make it sound "easy", even if... man you talk fast ! English is not my first lenguage and it's such a struggle to follow you, but totally worth the effort ;)
Anyway thanks for your videos and here is the reason of my post:
I'm a graphic designer and I'm facing a dilemma so I could use some help.
After almost 30 years of using Apple only, and when I say only, I mean ONLY, I come to the decision that is time for the big jump... I'm ready to transition from mac to PC, something that up to a few weeks ago I would have never imagined to say.
Why ?
Because I lost enthusiasm and trust in Apple and in its "philosophy' years ago, it used to be about innovation and now it's clearly only about profit.
In other words, for my needs ( basically I work only within Adobe CC, plus Powerpoint ) I can find way better hardware at a lower cost in the PC World and now Windows 10 is stable and not that ugly anymore.
Now I have a macbook pro ( often plugged into a big external monitor) plus an iPad pro with apple pencil and they are OK, but I realized that with this configuration I do not use the pencil as much as I would like to.
For example if I'm working in Illustrator or photoshop and at a certain point I would like add a "pencil touch" to my work I would need to export the file to the iPad, open it in another app and than re-export it on the mac again, and at the end I never do that because it would break the workflow, so I never use my "pencil touch".
Last week I realized that in the "PC world" they "invented" the convertible laptops or 2-in-1 ( and this tells you how much I was living only in the Apple Ecosystem ) and that would be the perfect hardware for me... and this brings me to my dilemma: which convertible laptop should I buy ? This market is all new for me, there are so many possible choices and I'm totally overwhelmed and confused.
As a mac user only, it was easy, I used to buy the best macbook pro within my budget, period.
So after a lot of research I come to the conclusion that for me the best solution would be a 13 inches convertible laptop, but which one ? Microsoft Surface Book 2 seems the right choice, but It really feels like with Microsoft you overpay for the brand and this really bothers me ( especially coming from years of overpaying Apple :) ).
I really like the Asus ZenBook or the HP Spectre but again... I'm confused with these many choices.
Did anyone out there go through my same transition and has some good advice ? or more simply someone with similar needs to mine that has experience with convertible laptop.
Thanks
Very cool. I'm going take the surface book and English is not my first language but I really like watching her. Improving our English and she is amazing tho
Can you please review Hauwei MateBook X pro
Nobody else goes in depth like you, I always wait for your laptop reviews.
How do you think the Surface Book 2 13” GTX1050 model would compare graphics-wise against the 15” Dell and HP here?
Rambler358 probably not as well
1050 mobile is substantially worse than the Vega M GL.
Tanks for the vid Lisa!
I'm coming from a surface pro 4 and considering the HP. I draw and note take a lot and am concerned about the pen accuracy and palm rejection being worse than my current laptop? (Watched your 2017 vid of the HP and it looked fairly bad)
Whats your experience with the 2018 model been like?
But if you calibrate the xps isnt it then a better display than the sb2? You were saying about calibration being better on sb2 but the gamut is lower? So if i understand right calibration you can fix....gamut is not fixable
great video, would like to add suggestions.
when you're talking about the dell xps, please only show video of the dell xps. it's kind of confusing when you're talking about the surfacebook 2 screen specs, and us viewers are seeing the hp screen.
also when talking about ports, don't show the right side of the ports on the pc while showing the keyboard or the left side of the port. show what you're talking about, at all times. :)
EDIT: I'd prefer if you only mentioned the laptops full name at the start of the video and not throughout the video, it's annoying to hear the full names for all these pc at all times, if you only mention "HP" we know you're talking about the HP spectre x360 with AMD graphics with 16gb of ram with 4k screen, because you said that at the start of the video.
PS: if I had the money, i'd pick Surfacebook at any day, seems like the better choice overall
thx for the smackdown,, but i still not sure what to get,, the battery life and the 1060 in surface is really tempting,, but im afraid if the cpu would last me for a longggg time with that price tag,, im also look forward to the traditional xps 15 later this month with an i9 or the aero 15x,, but then these two would be so much heavier to carry around as i do need a wacom intuos when i travel to work,, what would you guys get if you guys in my position. btw im a fashion photographer and often do video editing for vloggers. so primarily i will use capture one, photoshop and premiere pro. plus some gaming :)
Can you do a comparison of dell XPS 15 2 in 1 vs MacBook Pro 15 inch?
Years ago I did all Dell products but they weren't that great, their service at the time was pretty bad, and I found out they would do stupid proprietary things to make self service and upgrades difficult to impossible, things like change the universal standard connection of power supplies so you'd have to get those kinds of things from them. I remember it being a big to do because people wouldn't necessarily be aware of this and pcs would fry and smoke. So since then I've pretty much written Dell off, except I have purchased gaming consoles if the sale was good.
My question is, has Dell changed their ways in general, and is everything on this particular Dell model pretty standard so if someone gets it they aren't beholden to Dell for upgrades/replacement parts? Otherwise I'm leaning heavily to the HP, which I think looks rather stunning. How is parts replacement/upgrades on the surface book, better than Dell? Worse? Great job btw!
The surface book is notorious for not being able to be serviced. It's a no go for me because of that
Tm m not the case with the surface book. It's top notch engineering by microsoft. I have the first sb in 2015 version and is still runing flawlessly
Cate4life untill it's not and then what do you do? Everything fails at some point, I've been buying laptops for decades now and this has been true for any brand
Cenot4ph Lol you use a laptop for a decade ? Even if it still runs after 10 years, no one is gonna keep holding on to that obsoleted piece of tech. It's been with me for 3 damn good years to make it worth the price and i will probably have it replaced by the end of this year or the next.
Cenot4ph Well my father's old laptop, a Sony Vaio, is still running decently after 8 years. It depends how you use it.
I'm still using my late 2008 macbook pro. I would expect something similar from the next laptop I buy. I've been through 3 batteries, 3 chargers and 1 hard drive.
wow what detail! In depth reviews, very good work indeed!
You are the best!
Another mystery of mine solved!
I was hoping you did a benchmark stress test on the Dell & Hp
Even though they are using the same setup, difference is reviews are comparing of throttling issues for the Hp
I just started watching this and I'm already thrilled!!!! 😀😀😀😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
thanks for the review!!! got one question though, can you charge these laptops with a power bank?
Based solely on this smackdown, (and if money isn't an issue), I'd get the Surface Book 2.
The Surface Book 2's versatility, performance, and battery life is unbeatable.
I would take the xps, with the future proofed ports, and even though the battery life is less, it still gets a respectable 7 hours of routine use, and it also has fast charging via those Thunderbolt ports
Only one of them ;)
Thank you for the very professional way of explaining. You helped me choose the right laptop, I think.
Anyone notice her earrings?
Triangle inside a triangle. Her shirt? Kids cookie... Why?
#pizzagate this lady is suspect.
Look into the symbolism.
Its their downfall.
Hi I like ur video’s because you make it understandable I brought the Spectre 360 eb0065nr 15” I don’t know anything about it I was rushed into it by the sales Rep.
Thanks. You offer the best reviews and comparisons on TH-cam. I’m so sick of these wannabe reviewers. I can always count on you for an honest opinion.
Agreed
Can you test battery life of the Spectre when you turn the resolution down to 1080p? And also, how's the fan noise on that thing? I heard that just using the internet makes the fans rev up.
Will Xu I’ve had the hp spectre for a couple months now and I’ve only heard the fan kick on Once.
Please do a review of envy 13 (mx150, 2017/2018) and other counterparts at the same price point
Is the Dell XPS 15 2 in 1 as good as the Surface Pro as far as drawing experience NOW and are there any other laptops with good drawing experiences? I have a wacom 24 pro at home in LA but am on the road and want something good for drawing that is a bit larger than my surface pro but still able to run Photoshop etc.
Would you please do a review on hp Spectre 15’360 eb0065nr and tell if a pen can work with it
i'm an architecture design.. which one is better then? xps 15 or SB 2 ? give me ur choices in a real life 😭
Dian Febrina What a beauty!
Since you are an architecture. The surface book would be perfect for you.
I like the HP Spectre! It looks beautiful, powerful and for me the most important is that the RAM and SSD are upgradeable and the 4K monitor. I wonder if I could install 32GB of RAM?
Yup
I really appreciate your neat work Lisa!!! hope you get more subscribers!
So in terms of screen, dells 4k display would be best because of the available color gamut?
Thanks for this great review ma'am!!
Just the fact that I can upgrade ram on the spectre makes it my choice
Can the life of a MS Book 2 battery be extended by always having it plugged when used at home and only using the battery when it needs to be taken elsewhere? I would then use the tablet part on battery some of the time, but not all of the time. I have been put off that the watches can die with respect to the battery in one year so I sure don't like the idea of having to buy a new tablet every 1-2 years just because the battery dies. My desktops do last much longer, so I am asking if the plugging in for any home use would help preserve the battery by in effect not needing to use it to power the computer except for when it needs to be used away from home. I will mostly use my desktops for internet browsing for that reason and use the tablet for the pen input and the voice recognition that I am getting it to use it for.
You are a life saver, thank you. Subscribed
This is what I've been looking for. Thank you!
I was going to save up for the Spectre x360 15" (which I really like), but found a nearly brand-new ThinkPad L470 (8 GB DDR4, SSD, 1080p IPS) for $290 US (CAD$375). I couldn't turn it down!
Be careful with the PWM.
I don't think the IPS panel uses PWM. I run it at or near 100% brightness anyhow as it's only around 250 nits.
I love your reviews, they are really great!
What about using an external GPU with the HP? For example a GTX 1070? Would the CPU hold you back?
It's simply a joy to watch ur videos! Thank u and keep up the good work Lisa.
I love the channel. Laptops keep getting more powerful as time goes by.
Ray Shaw sadly true
No one gonna talk about how she looks and sounds like Leslie winkle from bbt
I just love this lady!
Great comparison. I too made an "Oh, snap!" joke recently.
Excellent! Thanks for this comparison. And the winner is: HP ZBook X360. Just kidding, but hopefully you will get to review the ZBook X360. With Xeon processors, 600 nits display, and NVidia graphics, the ZBook will be certainly hard to beat (if not the top product in the market for performance users, period!). Will wait until May (when the ZBook is out) before any decision. Thanks for commenting about the noise also. It's a very important aspect for some of us...
omg,, i didn't know about this laptop,, but how good would the p1000 gpu compete with the 1060 in terms of video render and (a bit of gaming lol)
I really hope she reviews it!! I wanted to get a zbook instead of the Spectre but I couldn't wait for even the Vega version of the Spectre. So I got the MX-150 with an RX 580 egpu.
Dori S
Well, if you are going to compare, then compare things that are more appropriate. ZBook vs Precision sounds right. ZBook vs XPS 15 or Spectre, or even Surface doesn't make sense.
not much of a difference, unless you are working with CAD programs.
Great stuff, do keep up the good work Lisa
Thermals on the newest Spectre 15t are TERRIBLE. I don't know what it is, but HP has a propensity for producing laptops with ridiculously terrible cooling systems. The fan is persistent and loud regardless of the task. Now, for mid range specs (I got mine for about 1650 w/ 12 gb ram 512 ssd with Vega) the price isn't too bad; however, poor thermals can damage inner components over the long run. I don't think saving 200 is worth the potential risk you run for using a sub par designed 2-1. Purchase the XPS if you want great performance and don't mind the nose cam.
Lisa actually mentioned that updating some things after receiving the HP fixed some of the issues, and it appeared that the cooling was as good if not better on the HP than the Dell if you watch both her videos. That is interesting. I'm curious as I'll be receiving the HP in a few days.
Michael Kawamura Yea the xps has bad thermals too the only one that doesn't is the SB2
Well it's cold where they develop the new HP devices. lol HP spectre doubles as a leg warmer.
Unfortunately for most ultrabooks in general, a re-paste is quite necessary if you are going for longevity. Undervolting with programs like ThrottleStop and MSI Burner for the CPU and GPU are also an optional yet efficient way of lowering temps but for the prices they charge, you'd think the devices would be properly optimized to their best potential.
I wouldn't take the thermals as the biggest issue. I've got Asus G73 running 7 years (5+ years uptime) at ~90 degrees (Celsius).
With ultrabooks I'm mostly worried about overall internal component quality.
My ThinkPad Yoga 12 - ssd gone in 6 months, motherboard after 13 months, cooling system after 15 months. Only luck was 3 year warranty...
In my work - 8 burnt motherboards (completely new EliteBooks) in 3 months...
14:37 Lisa: "Oh snap, I´m still holding them..."
SNAP: "You got the POOOOOWER!
also SNAP: "It's gettin' kinda heavy!"
Is Surface Book 2 good for note taking?
I have it is good for everything... is a desk top laptop tablet and a note taking device ...
Always enjoy all your videos. Thanks for the comparison. Just ordered a Surface Book 2. For me it seems like the best choice. Keep those videos coming!!!!!!
You helped me make the final decision to get the x360. It's much cheaper in price, and has the best port selection. Not to mention that if gaming is a concern of mine, I can easily hook up an eGPU, which I wouldn't be able to do with the Surface Book 2. My other concern is the moving parts in the Surface Book, which I know are probably fine, I just don't want to take that risk. Thanks!
Can someone tell me which one is the best one out of the three of them? I'm thinking of the XPS 2-in-1, but they don't have a 16gb option that justifies the price. Any thoughts?
Were'd you get shirt??? My homeboy ALWAYS saying that 😅
Not buying a Dell. Michael Dell bought back the company when the stock price was down rather than working to increase the stock price like he was paid to do.No Dells under any circumstances
Is there a noticable difference in photoshop and Lightroom between these? I understand that the CPU is quite different between them, but I wanted to know if there is significant difference in real world usage? Very good comparison. Keep up the good work.
How long do you think the spectre would last running Autocad? And how loud do you think the fans would get? I'm getting the spectre for school and have to use CAD a lot
I really like the Spectre x360, but my past experience with HP laptops has been power supplies die among other issues. I'm torn. Really good job with the build and design of that laptop. Back to Dell, maybe a surface 2 or waiting on the ASUS Zephyrus S or Zenbook.
They all look great, but the 3:2 aspect ratio may sell me on the Surface Book 2 despite it's cost. I do demonstrations in the class room, and so the closer to the 4:3 aspect ratio of the projectors we have, the better.
Very nice video! You should use an ESD strap when touching the internals.
Hi I am an architectural student and which one of them do you prefer for me between Dell and HP ? Thank you
I have a question do you need a powerful gpu for drawing graphic art? And is the surface book 2 model WITHOUT the discrete Nvidia gpu good enough for video editing?
i love your smile and your personality!
I love Lisa and happy she's producing content but I need these to be closer to 6-8min, can someone give me the TLDR summary?
QUESTION! Can anyone tell me if the mouspad on this laptop feels loose? I've had older Samsung pads where they were very fixed and didn't move much.
Lisa great vid but my brain is a bit slow to take all that info in at the speed you talk lol....what would be good is if you could use some sort of visual illustration or a table/chart with the winner of each round ticked
Best one for video editing, picture editing, and music producing? Leaning towards the Dell..
Please review the gigabyte Aero 15X v8 or 15W v8 and XPS 15 9570 , thanks...
i want this laptop so hard is what i always wanted usb c, acurate display, 2 in 1 the only thing i want to know if i can charge it with a powerbank :'( just for keep it charge not for full charge and maybe see if i can buy an anker cable and a 60 watt wall charger in case of emergency thanks
I was going to buy one but I'll wait till they go to 8nm CPU and work on the heating issue. For the money it's not worth it to me
I heard with "routine" use Dell says with the 4K display they can get 10 hours of battery life? Also I think overall durability and future proofing the best laptop is the Dell
This HP spectre has problem in hinge design (don't be fooled by design) After some time, its hinges are start to making noise which like old rust bolts.
At around the 8 minute mark I’m not sure if it was mentioned but how is the sound of the fans for the surface book 2 compared to the others
Can you review the new 2018 Dell G7 15? I'm thinking about getting one. Specifically an i7, 1060 maxq, 16GB, 1080p
Great Video. Can the HP Spectre with I8705g hold a second SSD Drive like 1 TB?
This is so helpful, thank you!
Please review the Samsung Notebook 7 spin 13.3 2018...
How does the performance for gaming compare for the Spectre and the XPS 15 non convertible?
Don't ever buy Dell. Support is horrendously bad.
Great comparison, I'm liking the HP, price and ports/SD card support.
Dear tell me who it is better oled laptop ..hp spectre.or.aero oled.or Dell exp from display video?
Dus hpx360 is best for animation...or video editing
Microsoft throttles to keep the CPU temp under 100 degrees C.
Please question to you MobileTechReview: How easy or confortable is to use XPS15 as a tablet or portrait screen to read and content?
Please question to you MobileTechReview: How easy or confortable is to use XPS15 as a tablet or portrait screen to read and content?