While I haven't bought an adapter like this and don't have a reason to, it's great to know. You may be saving some lives other than your own. Well done.
Thank you for this LIFE SAVING information. I recently made a set up like this for the same reason but have only briefly tested it. I really appreciate the video.
Thanks. I was thinking of doing the same thing 😅 I now realized the larger stoves in other vids i’m trying to learn from have a pipe attachment AWAY from the heat. Glad you’re safe!
Probably safer to buy one of the refill adapters and fill the 1 lb tanks off a 20 lb. Crimp connections in hoses don't react well to heat. Learned my lesson, was replacing air brake hoses on a truck. The truck was from a hatchery and they used a disinfectant that corroded everything. I cut the hose off and had the fitting in a vice and was heating it with a torch to try and extract the hose fitting from another fitting and the bit of hose blew out of the crimp like a speeding bullet. Was lucky I was not standing over it
Are you not suppose to turn off the gas at source when not in use? Kind of makes sense that there will be a heat transfer when the connection is directly below a flame
Your warning has been much appreciated. The General rule of thumb is to do not have anything less than 12 inches from a double wall, fuel burning appliance that is not flame resistant. With a single wall, that extends to 24 inches. In my opinion, a 24 inch copper line would've served you fine for the feed line.
Be careful with the camper stove as well. People salvage them from campers but never install them the way they were in the camper with appropriate venting. There is usually a metal vent that is installed through the roof of the camper or out through the wall. The assess panel works as an vent also. Don’t cover it. Install camper units, stove, fridges and furnaces exactly as they were in the camper. Some setups have both the small chimney stack pipe with roof cap and the louvered vent at the back. Diy’ers often don’t salvage or use these vents when reinstalling stoves and fridges in cabins or workshops. This makes the new installation extremely dangerous. Open flame combustion can be very safe if installed properly. Additionally a (blow back prevention valve) is available at most hardware stores for gas lines. A propane line can suck flame back through the line to the tank in the event of a damaged line. This blow back valve prevents any pressure or flame from going in the opposite direction to the tank. Mandatory in many states and an inexpensive safety measure everywhere. Hope this helps. Retired inspector including propane installations. Be safe not sorry.
i prefer not to use direct bottle mount or rubber lines. I like the small square base ones, with hard line and regulator. You may have to prop the bottle at a 45 angle with a rock or digging out dirt, but this makes it very stable and you can feel if the hardline gets warm or not. rubber lines need a LOT of air clearance near the heat source
That's funny. I got the same idea as you. Made my stove stand out of a few soup cans. Except mine failed while cooking. Cost me a fire extinguisher and lots of cleaning.
I had the same failure using a buddy heater in a tent trailer... but the stove was on when the line let go. I woke up to a ball of fire, bailed out through the velcro panel in the tent side, reached in and shut off the heater and propane.
@@pattiannepascual the buddy heater has a built-in regulator so you need an adapter hose to run the larger tanks since they use different threading. Same is true on my Camp Chef stove/oven combo and anything else that has a regulator/attachment meant for the 1lb tanks
Damn my man. I'm in home Depot right now looking to do the igzact same thing you did. Buy one of these hoses to use for that igzact burner cause im sick of spending money on the little tanks. In my situation and what I WAS going to use it for.....I'm glad I so happen to come across this video, watching, standing in the isle with the hose in hand ready to buy. Fuuuu@# that. Good lookin out!
I've also read that (I think dickinson marine but not 100% sure..If you want me to find it, just ask and I'll hunt it down) it's better that no type of tape be used near their burner. I think this was for the joint near the burner of their cosy cabin heater. Yes, I found that odd too, unless the heat at that point exceeds 268 degrees C, Teflon's limits.
that Is what I discovered a few years ago, Nothing happened but I noticed how It was heating up the tank and decided that just Not right this also goes for them Butane heaters too so I bought a Stansport propane burnner that has the metal tube that extends away from the burnner, oh I use It Indoors so I must be carbon monoxide resistant.
Thanks for the video. I was just looking into getting one of these. Maybe better to just get an adapter to refill to small bottles off the big tank. My setup is more for grid down situations, not regular use.
@@curteouslycook Yup. Found this: th-cam.com/video/g2_GhyAw3vM/w-d-xo.html Their example case study isn't a good one. Sounds like the leak was not caused by a 1lb tank refill failing, but rather unattended an hardware union.
@@Keifsanderson right, they gave no real information why it was actually dangerous. Who would fill bottles around an open flame? I would love to know why this is actually dangerous because I have a bunch of these I want to fill?
Hard to say. The main problem seems to have been that the hose just got too damn hot, which probably would have happened with a regulator. OTOH, at a lower pressure, the hose might not have blown out.
Some propane regulators are designed to significantly reduce the flow of gas if it senses an excess flow of propane. It may not have stopped the hose from blowing off but it could have prevented a catastrophic release of propane. The keyword here is "reduce" as it doesn't completely stop the flow of propane, it only reduces the flow to a trickle.
This is scary, my ex girlfriend's ex boyfriend lit their hot water heater outside where the water heater is and the burner malfunctioned and he basically lit a blow torch and wasn't familiar with propane water heaters and didn't know, I guess he went back into the house and it was super loud, they run next door and got her dad and he immediately went out to the little room outside and he said the water heater was glowing and said it was like a freaking flame thrower. He replaced the burner and there's never been a problem since.
Same with refilling those tanks, you physically can try, especially with the variety of fittings you can find on eBay they will sell anything; however, that doesn’t mean you should do that. There is a reason there is another valve on these tanks because that is how they are filled. When you try to push gas past the inlet it freezes open I hope you’re not holding a cigarette because once your hand freezes to one of the tanks you aren’t going very far at all and it is spewing at a rate fast enough to cause anything to stick to it. The flatulence of this guess absolutely can be Ignited by the smallest spark including but not limited to lighters refrigerator compressors, automotive air-conditioning compressors especially can’t create sparks. I’m surprised they do not say to turn your air conditioning or heat off but instead they say teacher in the entire vehicle off this is the best idea but who wants to learn firsthand why they say not to do things? Someone has already won that Darwin award if you want to go on ahead for the sake of humanity prior to spreading your seed
it happened to me, right as i was about to light the burner... i was enclosed in a van, and it was so close, because i never flicked the lighter, i literally has my hand and lighter ready to hit the strike wheel....00003 away from total bomb, inside my van, and i was about to light it, that scared me to death, so much propane came out, it broke and it sprayed me in my neck area, as i rushed for the Chevrolet van side door, god almighty i was shaking, as i gasped for air, as i opened the side doors and shut the valve, as fast as i could... 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 God saved me by some chance, i totally understand it
Look into the MSR pocket rocket deluxe. Why would you go to sleep with a stove like that (or any) lit?? Glad you survived. Now you need a T-Shirt saying "I survived by dumb luck'".
it happened to me, right as i was about to light the burner... i was enclosed in a van, and it was so close, because i never flicked the lighter, i literally has my hand and lighter ready to hit the strike wheel....00003 away from total bomb, inside my van, and i was about to light it, that scared me to death, so much propane came out, it broke and it sprayed me in my neck area, as i rushed for the Chevrolet van side door, god almighty i was shaking, as i gasped for air, as i opened the side doors and shut the valve, as fast as i could... 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 God saved me by some chance, i totally understand it
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Not "dumb luck" but a Higher Power watching over you.
While I haven't bought an adapter like this and don't have a reason to, it's great to know. You may be saving some lives other than your own. Well done.
I was going to do this. Thank you!!!! Glad you're fine.
Thank you for this LIFE SAVING information. I recently made a set up like this for the same reason but have only briefly tested it. I really appreciate the video.
You saved my family's life we were going to do this today but something told me to look it up first
Thanks. I was thinking of doing the same thing 😅 I now realized the larger stoves in other vids i’m trying to learn from have a pipe attachment AWAY from the heat.
Glad you’re safe!
I just bought one of those hoses and was going to do exactly what you did. THANK YOU!
I was thinking of constructing something similar. Great advice, I won’t try it then. :) those little coleman stoves are awesome.
Wow thank you glad your still here
Probably safer to buy one of the refill adapters and fill the 1 lb tanks off a 20 lb. Crimp connections in hoses don't react well to heat. Learned my lesson, was replacing air brake hoses on a truck. The truck was from a hatchery and they used a disinfectant that corroded everything. I cut the hose off and had the fitting in a vice and was heating it with a torch to try and extract the hose fitting from another fitting and the bit of hose blew out of the crimp like a speeding bullet. Was lucky I was not standing over it
Are you not suppose to turn off the gas at source when not in use? Kind of makes sense that there will be a heat transfer when the connection is directly below a flame
Thanks for the heads up man! Glad your totally fine after that!
Glad you were safe out of this experience!
That’s good to know and yet another reason I love wood stoves for heating/cooking vs pressurized propane.
Great video.
Your warning has been much appreciated. The General rule of thumb is to do not have anything less than 12 inches from a double wall, fuel burning appliance that is not flame resistant. With a single wall, that extends to 24 inches. In my opinion, a 24 inch copper line would've served you fine for the feed line.
Hey man thanks so much for posting this! You might have saved my life! Thanks again
Thanks for the tip buddy I'm looking for a burner myself. I will be making sure it has a heavy duty pressure line on it thanks again.
Thank you so much for sharing this tip! You could save a life!
I'm saying he just might have mine. I'm kinda buggin out how close this just came.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge my friend
in other countries the burner plate connects directly to bigger size gas cylinder like 5lb, but they dont do that here in usa, i wonder why.
I was about to do this !! Thank you so much !!
Be careful with the camper stove as well. People salvage them from campers but never install them the way they were in the camper with appropriate venting. There is usually a metal vent that is installed through the roof of the camper or out through the wall. The assess panel works as an vent also. Don’t cover it. Install camper units, stove, fridges and furnaces exactly as they were in the camper. Some setups have both the small chimney stack pipe with roof cap and the louvered vent at the back. Diy’ers often don’t salvage or use these vents when reinstalling stoves and fridges in cabins or workshops. This makes the new installation extremely dangerous. Open flame combustion can be very safe if installed properly. Additionally a (blow back prevention valve) is available at most hardware stores for gas lines. A propane line can suck flame back through the line to the tank in the event of a damaged line. This blow back valve prevents any pressure or flame from going in the opposite direction to the tank. Mandatory in many states and an inexpensive safety measure everywhere. Hope this helps. Retired inspector including propane installations. Be safe not sorry.
plus You needed a filter too to stop Oil from getting Into the burner but the best heaters stoves are them where the pressure regulator Is at the tank
i prefer not to use direct bottle mount or rubber lines. I like the small square base ones, with hard line and regulator. You may have to prop the bottle at a 45 angle with a rock or digging out dirt, but this makes it very stable and you can feel if the hardline gets warm or not. rubber lines need a LOT of air clearance near the heat source
That's funny. I got the same idea as you. Made my stove stand out of a few soup cans. Except mine failed while cooking. Cost me a fire extinguisher and lots of cleaning.
I wonder if it is intentional in the design to transfer heat to the 1lb cylinder to keep pressure up?
Damn! I was gonna do just that. I will not now. Thanks! Subbed.
I had the same failure using a buddy heater in a tent trailer... but the stove was on when the line let go. I woke up to a ball of fire, bailed out through the velcro panel in the tent side, reached in and shut off the heater and propane.
Holy shit!
LMFAO!!!!!
MAYBE CAMPING ISN'T YOUR THING!
aren't you allowed to hook Buddy heaters to the big tank? I know a lot of people who do. Do you think you need a special hose?
@@pattiannepascual the buddy heater has a built-in regulator so you need an adapter hose to run the larger tanks since they use different threading. Same is true on my Camp Chef stove/oven combo and anything else that has a regulator/attachment meant for the 1lb tanks
Eeeek thanks I was wondering about doing that incase old man winter came with anger glad you said something 🥴🥴🥴🥴
"PROBLY" is not a word.
It's dialect.
Thank you
Damn my man. I'm in home Depot right now looking to do the igzact same thing you did. Buy one of these hoses to use for that igzact burner cause im sick of spending money on the little tanks. In my situation and what I WAS going to use it for.....I'm glad I so happen to come across this video, watching, standing in the isle with the hose in hand ready to buy. Fuuuu@# that. Good lookin out!
Thank you.
Look into refillable 1 pound tanks.
I have one on them burners, I cook off of it, great information, that it gets hot all the way dowm
Thanks
Thanks man. 👍🏻
Always use Teflon tape on the threads, and make sure you spray either soapy water or windex to check for leaks ALWAYS!!
I've also read that (I think dickinson marine but not 100% sure..If you want me to find it, just ask and I'll hunt it down) it's better that no type of tape be used near their burner. I think this was for the joint near the burner of their cosy cabin heater. Yes, I found that odd too, unless the heat at that point exceeds 268 degrees C, Teflon's limits.
NEVER teflon tape.
Use yellow tape for petroleum products.
@@patrickhenigin4805 you do realize Teflon tape comes in three colors? Blue, red, yellow. Cold, hot, and gas/propane.
Good for you to share.
that Is what I discovered a few years ago, Nothing happened but I noticed how It was heating up the tank and decided that just Not right this also goes for them Butane heaters too so I bought a Stansport propane burnner that has the metal tube that extends away from the burnner, oh I use It Indoors so I must be carbon monoxide resistant.
Is the stansport safe with propane??
This is some seriously scarry info.
Thanks for the video. I was just looking into getting one of these. Maybe better to just get an adapter to refill to small bottles off the big tank. My setup is more for grid down situations, not regular use.
That's doable but as a trained propane dispenser (who tries lots of things) told me, quite dangerous.
@@curteouslycook Yup. Found this: th-cam.com/video/g2_GhyAw3vM/w-d-xo.html
Their example case study isn't a good one. Sounds like the leak was not caused by a 1lb tank refill failing, but rather unattended an hardware union.
@@Keifsanderson right, they gave no real information why it was actually dangerous. Who would fill bottles around an open flame?
I would love to know why this is actually dangerous because I have a bunch of these I want to fill?
Thank u Jesus...
Would a regulator have prevented the issue ?
Hard to say. The main problem seems to have been that the hose just got too damn hot, which probably would have happened with a regulator. OTOH, at a lower pressure, the hose might not have blown out.
@@russlehman2070 I have a smoke the same way. Thanks to this video, I will connect a hard line to connect it away from the smoker about 6 to 12 in.
Some propane regulators are designed to significantly reduce the flow of gas if it senses an excess flow of propane. It may not have stopped the hose from blowing off but it could have prevented a catastrophic release of propane. The keyword here is "reduce" as it doesn't completely stop the flow of propane, it only reduces the flow to a trickle.
It was foolish to leave that stove unattended much less go to sleep with it on.
This is scary, my ex girlfriend's ex boyfriend lit their hot water heater outside where the water heater is and the burner malfunctioned and he basically lit a blow torch and wasn't familiar with propane water heaters and didn't know, I guess he went back into the house and it was super loud, they run next door and got her dad and he immediately went out to the little room outside and he said the water heater was glowing and said it was like a freaking flame thrower. He replaced the burner and there's never been a problem since.
Same with refilling those tanks, you physically can try, especially with the variety of fittings you can find on eBay they will sell anything; however, that doesn’t mean you should do that. There is a reason there is another valve on these tanks because that is how they are filled. When you try to push gas past the inlet it freezes open I hope you’re not holding a cigarette because once your hand freezes to one of the tanks you aren’t going very far at all and it is spewing at a rate fast enough to cause anything to stick to it. The flatulence of this guess absolutely can be Ignited by the smallest spark including but not limited to lighters refrigerator compressors, automotive air-conditioning compressors especially can’t create sparks. I’m surprised they do not say to turn your air conditioning or heat off but instead they say teacher in the entire vehicle off this is the best idea but who wants to learn firsthand why they say not to do things? Someone has already won that Darwin award if you want to go on ahead for the sake of humanity prior to spreading your seed
it happened to me, right as i was about to light the burner...
i was enclosed in a van, and it was so close, because i never flicked the lighter, i literally has my hand and lighter ready to hit the strike wheel....00003 away from total bomb, inside my van, and i was about to light it, that scared me to death, so much propane came out, it broke and it sprayed me in my neck area, as i rushed for the Chevrolet van side door, god almighty i was shaking, as i gasped for air, as i opened the side doors and shut the valve, as fast as i could...
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
God saved me by some chance, i totally understand it
I can only imagine.
Look into the MSR pocket rocket deluxe.
Why would you go to sleep with a stove like that (or any) lit??
Glad you survived.
Now you need a T-Shirt saying "I survived by dumb luck'".
Does ANYONE read instructions? It tells you not to do this very thing! DAAAAAAH!
Not everyone bought brand new burner or keep the instructions forever.
Scary
Believe they are designed for hard piping🤷♂️
That's not made for running long periods of time
and as I always say, If you can't build It right dont put It on the market
He needs a gas gauge / auto shut off valve
My thoughts exactly..
Better stick with cans of STernO ;-)
All in God's time, son. He's got something left for you to do.
Glag you made the video
THANKS
it happened to me, right as i was about to light the burner...
i was enclosed in a van, and it was so close, because i never flicked the lighter, i literally has my hand and lighter ready to hit the strike wheel....00003 away from total bomb, inside my van, and i was about to light it, that scared me to death, so much propane came out, it broke and it sprayed me in my neck area, as i rushed for the Chevrolet van side door, god almighty i was shaking, as i gasped for air, as i opened the side doors and shut the valve, as fast as i could...
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
God saved me by some chance, i totally understand it
How was propane coming out?