The Seed Action System originated on the newer HG Destiny Gundam. The Infinite Justice Gundam also uses the same inner frame system making these four kits compatible with all their limbs. Haven't seen this mentioned in any other videos besides the few I've made on TikTok.
I had build hgce destiny 2019 and yes and not but yeah for the neck articulation it is the same way for imj and rf but for the torso it is more à combination of hgce destiny and dagger l torso articulation design.
No you're quite wrong they share the same parts but not the same level the Seed Action System was something Bandai started developing during 2020 up to 2022 and then they made the kits during 2023 and the HG Destiny Revive can't do what these kits can this is what the old Seed kits lacked the most
HGCE Force Impulse have a Core fighter piece in the back, where the Force Silhouette attaches to. That thing has the standard two pegs thus allowing you to use the Silhouette packs with the Immortal Justice. Also anyone who bought the HG Build Divers Injustice Weapon set has an adapter to connect the Infinite Justice's Fatum-01 to most any standard Gunpla
@14:40 With those beam saber/boomerang designs on the HGCE Immortal Justice- it would be safe for me to assume that: We might be getting HGCEs GAT-X303 Aegis, and ZGMF-X24S Chaos Gundams before the year ends or at least first quarter of 2025… Same applies with the future HGCEs Chaos and ZGMF-X666S Legend Gundams, since the shared beam rifles of the Rising Freedom & Immortal Justice, were all loosely based on the beam rifles of Chaos & Legend Gundams, respectively.
Hate to break it to you, but HGCE Destiny Gundam has been out since 2019 and Destiny use the same backhands as Legend Gundam but we never heard about its remolding. And I don't want to say that HGCE Aile Strike Gundam is out in 2014, but we didn't get any GAT-X series after that while they use almost the same inner frame, not even another striker pack of Strike And Core Gundam's flat beam doesn't mean we get a remold exia too
ngl, at first I was weirded out by the head proportion of Immortal Justice (thought it was a little too big for its body) but I've gotten used to its design and I really love its beam swords. Reminds me of Zero's Z-Saber from Megaman ZERO
21:30 with the shield, the fold out wings dont require you to poke a toothpick in there to get it out. you can simply get them out by pressing down on the piece where it attaches to the gundam, make your you have the connecting notch pointing towards the tip of the shield. simply press down on this piece and twist it 90 degrees left and 90 degrees right
Despite the higher sticker counts for the Rising Freedom and Immortal Justice compared to the average WfM HG, they also boast a greater degree of plastic color separation. Some mainline TV series designs (Age and WfM) have relatively simple color layouts, making it easier/cheaper for Bandai to replicate accurately in plastic. You sort of touched upon this when you talked about the RF's beam rifle and how it's molded in 2 colors vs the standard mono-colored HG beam rifle. They could've just omitted those extra trim details from the designs and they would've looked fine, but I guess they didn't want to compromise Okawara's vision lol As a side note, my HGCE Infinite Justice is still rock solid (besides the backpack connector joints, those did loosen up a little) and I built it on release in... 2020? Hardly that old and still one of the best HGs. It also lacks polycaps, so I imagine the Rising Freedom and Immortal Justice should fare the same over time.
Yeah idk what he was on about with infinite justice, it's one of the best hg's I've built with that beautiful metallic frame plastic and the layered chest piece
Can't wait for this MG. Edit: just seen the fashion show, yeah the Pharact backpack is nice, New Freedom one looks good too. This opens up cool can of worms.
They definitely would since both incorporate the twin peg backpack connector. You'll have to sacrifice Impulse's Core Splendor on it's back, though....
To get the wings out of the shield, there is actually a gimmick for you to rotate the part stuck on the inside of the shield. This will swing out the wings a bit so that you can then flip them out.
I found something about the sheild... If you push the arm attachment in and twist it 180°, the small wings comes out a bit... I don't know if you guys noticed that..
I am saving money to buy this particular model kit, I'd say is worth it (specially since its the only Gundam model kit I can find in my country area) Little update, I just put it together by the time I'm typing, I'm personally satisfied
I never thought we'd actually see the backpack fashion show make a return and I'm impressed at the immortal Justice can actually pull off most of the recent backpacks we've had. This opens the gate for so many cool custom builds though I do agree that they could have easily given you like another hand in the runner though I'm guessing they probably wouldn't want to have people complaining about more spare parts. Still another impressive mobile suit in this line even if I'm not a big fan of all of this seed milking.
I'm glad that they made a modern justice kit that has more adaptable parts. Its been frustrating that I haven't been able to customize my other justice kits.
according to the info on the ImmJ, the backpack has more thrust than the InfJ Fatum... but when you compare them at @12:05, Fatum engines are far more huge than the ImmJ... like 3x bigger...
@@razrafz i was just about to say the same thing, the og hg seed & seed destiny capture the lineart proportion pretty close. the most balance between proportion and likeness i think the hgce revive line up, they look like their mg counterpart but scale down to 1/144
Shame that the shoulder joints aren't standard but i looked at the manual online I still want this for those beautiful arms. I have a kitbash in mind for this.
They should have changed the shape of the nose hood and had the rifle connect to it with a 180 rotation of the waist to more Wing Gundam the flight mode.
I don't know if kira and Athrun are going to pilot their respective Gundam. Kira most likely is going to pile up the freedom but, Shin Asuka could be piloting either one of those I think. I believe I saw him in the trailer so he might be in a different mobile suit.
Did a bit of thinking and a bit of research. I can now say with some degree of confidence that they missed an opportunity to make the Immortal Justice a forward-swept wing jet in MA form to differentiate it from the Rising Freedom. I guess I have a reason to buy it now.
Aegis white claws everywhere, from head, shoulders and its * bleep * 🤣 Their mobile armor mode is based on Murasame, a transformable mobile suits that change into flight modes.
I didn't know they really liked the Saviour Gundam's gimmick, but kind of happy they decided too since it was one my Fav's from Destiny that really got unceremoniously but badass in a way death by Freedom.
I really hope bandai finally comes to their senses at the seed hype and make some nice retail hg zaft grunts Im literally scrambling to find any junk parts in my collection to make a supercharged cgue hg idea just because no guaiz to match hg gunbarrel dagger cystom and m1 astray custom If they make the destroy gundam then surely we can get a hg guaiz or ginn revive Heck retail seed would he awesome (still salty about strike dagger revive and its possible implications)
They are making Destroy Gundam which is sort of a grunt MA at this point of CE. The rest of the grunts they should be doing if they're willing to make a destroy gundam after all this time.
To me this is more of a successor to the Savior which really got shafted. Love Athrun suits and really trying to hold out for a 1/100 version, but I might cave and get this.
If the Infinite Justice and the Strike Freedom are basically the same except backpacks can we expect a MGEX Strike Freedom expansion pack for the Type 2 and a Type 2 Justice MGEX/MG
The Mighty Strike Freedom doesn't really need much in the way of color-correcting stickers given its color scheme and similarity to the Strike Freedom, which they managed to color separate properly with the HGCE. The main difference with the Mighty SF is the wings, and while those also have stickers they're meant to be glow effects shining from inside the wings, rather than color-correcting stickers permanently visible outside.
Gonna wait for Master Grades and the inevitable Perfect Grade Mighty Strike Freedom that comes with parts for the Strike Freedom Type 2. Give it a year, maybe two. But it's coming.
I find it hard to like the Immortal Justice, considering the backpack isn't the same as the previous Justice(s). Basically they killed every aspect of the detachable, independent backpack to a generic wing that doesn't even swivel or have its own beam guns
Eh, I don't really mind it honestly and they did it on purpose because the Immortal is a purposely downgraded MS especially that it uses battery rather than nuclear
Hot take, but I would say the Immortal Justice looks way better than the Rising Freedom
because it is better. i like immortal justice more than rising freedom
as a Freedomboi myself I agree with you, they perfected the Anti-Hero vibe of the Justice
I agree i like the justice than freedom
That's because Athrun is the main character lol
@@itzjustmerichb Except that the Immortal Justice isn't Athrun's.
The Seed Action System originated on the newer HG Destiny Gundam. The Infinite Justice Gundam also uses the same inner frame system making these four kits compatible with all their limbs. Haven't seen this mentioned in any other videos besides the few I've made on TikTok.
I had build hgce destiny 2019 and yes and not but yeah for the neck articulation it is the same way for imj and rf but for the torso it is more à combination of hgce destiny and dagger l torso articulation design.
No you're quite wrong they share the same parts but not the same level the Seed Action System was something Bandai started developing during 2020 up to 2022 and then they made the kits during 2023 and the HG Destiny Revive can't do what these kits can this is what the old Seed kits lacked the most
Savior + justice = immortal justice
Destiny + freedom = rising freedom
nani the fck 🫤
-korone
Shinn kick…I see what you did there 🙂
HGCE Force Impulse have a Core fighter piece in the back, where the Force Silhouette attaches to. That thing has the standard two pegs thus allowing you to use the Silhouette packs with the Immortal Justice.
Also anyone who bought the HG Build Divers Injustice Weapon set has an adapter to connect the Infinite Justice's Fatum-01 to most any standard Gunpla
Man, the upcoming TYPE IIs will be insane
Omg if they make more "spec II" for other universe's ❤
Destiny & SF eating better because of the Proud Defender & Zeus Silhouette.
@@RockOrso2Zeus Silhouette is only Metal Robot Damashii exclusive though.
@@zeroxexe111F90 has a variant called F90II Jupiter Battle Spec.
Don't forget the Formula Record Breaker.
@14:40
With those beam saber/boomerang designs on the HGCE Immortal Justice- it would be safe for me to assume that:
We might be getting HGCEs GAT-X303 Aegis, and ZGMF-X24S Chaos Gundams before the year ends or at least first quarter of 2025…
Same applies with the future HGCEs Chaos and ZGMF-X666S Legend Gundams, since the shared beam rifles of the Rising Freedom & Immortal Justice, were all loosely based on the beam rifles of Chaos & Legend Gundams, respectively.
Hate to break it to you, but HGCE Destiny Gundam has been out since 2019 and Destiny use the same backhands as Legend Gundam but we never heard about its remolding.
And I don't want to say that HGCE Aile Strike Gundam is out in 2014, but we didn't get any GAT-X series after that while they use almost the same inner frame, not even another striker pack of Strike
And Core Gundam's flat beam doesn't mean we get a remold exia too
_„...Shinn-kicking beam effects...“_ I see what you did there! x'D
FREEDOM and JUSTICE are always Connected
Kira and Shinn Pilot Only
Actually the name comes from the first few operation names for Afghanistan back in the early 2000s
ngl, at first I was weirded out by the head proportion of Immortal Justice (thought it was a little too big for its body) but I've gotten used to its design and I really love its beam swords. Reminds me of Zero's Z-Saber from Megaman ZERO
I'm still kinda weirded out by the gun-dong they decided to give it
Because the kit design is more based on the lineart rather than the anime itself much like the old Seed and Seed Destiny HGs
This immortal justice gundam sad to say was not piloted by Athrun Zala, but Shinn Asuka is the one who is piloting this fantastic mobile suit.
The color scheme does reflect Shinn ZAFT red uniform (dark red, black, white and yellow)
there is actually a side note on thw lower left 😂😂
It wasmade for athrun but he was busy
Kira asked shin to take it instead
Just makes it better baby
Should be called saviour
this is the first gunpla hg im getting this year. great.
21:30 with the shield, the fold out wings dont require you to poke a toothpick in there to get it out. you can simply get them out by pressing down on the piece where it attaches to the gundam, make your you have the connecting notch pointing towards the tip of the shield. simply press down on this piece and twist it 90 degrees left and 90 degrees right
ok the kit looks so good with the destinys wings
Despite the higher sticker counts for the Rising Freedom and Immortal Justice compared to the average WfM HG, they also boast a greater degree of plastic color separation. Some mainline TV series designs (Age and WfM) have relatively simple color layouts, making it easier/cheaper for Bandai to replicate accurately in plastic. You sort of touched upon this when you talked about the RF's beam rifle and how it's molded in 2 colors vs the standard mono-colored HG beam rifle. They could've just omitted those extra trim details from the designs and they would've looked fine, but I guess they didn't want to compromise Okawara's vision lol
As a side note, my HGCE Infinite Justice is still rock solid (besides the backpack connector joints, those did loosen up a little) and I built it on release in... 2020? Hardly that old and still one of the best HGs. It also lacks polycaps, so I imagine the Rising Freedom and Immortal Justice should fare the same over time.
Okawara has made them ton of money with the Gundam seed series MS. I likely think the extra effort was cause it's their cash cow.
Yeah idk what he was on about with infinite justice, it's one of the best hg's I've built with that beautiful metallic frame plastic and the layered chest piece
@@mr.b89 He considered it as one of the best HGs in his review of it at the time.
mine will be delivered in a few hours today together with Rising Freedom..so excited!!!
Where’d you order them from?
@@starlord157 from my local store
@@starlord157 from my local store
Next is Mighty Strike Freedom (with electric nuke or something) and Infinite Justice Spec-ii (with X-Wing as a backpack).
When u twist the holding pick of attachment point on the back of the shield, the tip of the wings will come out automatically . Try it
I'm getting the Vibe of the Saviour with this Backpack.
0:43 "yes i know" 😂 lmao
The ball joint for the shield has a peg to push out the flaps when you rotate it
Not actually piloted by Athrun this time though :p
Can't wait for this MG.
Edit: just seen the fashion show, yeah the Pharact backpack is nice, New Freedom one looks good too. This opens up cool can of worms.
Impressive Gundam, the Immortal Justice reigns indeed! 🤩🚀
17:41 Can the Force Impulse revive able to fit with Immortal Justice backpack n hood?
They definitely would since both incorporate the twin peg backpack connector. You'll have to sacrifice Impulse's Core Splendor on it's back, though....
@@rafaerudono That fine since the back of the impulse revive look's ugly if you turn the thing into chest flyer.
To get the wings out of the shield, there is actually a gimmick for you to rotate the part stuck on the inside of the shield. This will swing out the wings a bit so that you can then flip them out.
The shield having dual boomerangs is honestly absolutely awesome, I am tempted to buy both kits just to put the justices shield on the freedom.
This is one of the most beautiful seed kit
silhouette packs may be compatible on it. you just need to take the back end of the core splendor and attach it to the pac kso your get the twin pegs
Just need a HGCE Aegis bandai.
Shinn Asuka: No no, that is MY Gundam!!
It is a spoiler that he is trying to avoid for people that still don't watch the movie yet
@@therest9281 Not much of a spoiler if many people already knew about it many months before it was released
Also Shinn: I don't really want it though
Shin kick
Shin also:
I lost to those black knight is, because I was piloting Justice! If it was Destiny I won't lose to them.
-Shin Asuka 2024
If you rotate the grey joint on the back of the shield the wings on the side pops out a little. Nice little gimmick for the shield.
This was my first ever build! Fun kit. Thanks for the video!
Backpack fashion show always been my favorite section ❤❤
I found something about the sheild... If you push the arm attachment in and twist it 180°, the small wings comes out a bit... I don't know if you guys noticed that..
I am saving money to buy this particular model kit, I'd say is worth it (specially since its the only Gundam model kit I can find in my country area)
Little update, I just put it together by the time I'm typing, I'm personally satisfied
23:14 DUDE! When did you have Hajiroboshi the 2nd?
Honestly, i always thought the colors were a reference to his older mobile suits like the red gives me savior vibes
I never thought we'd actually see the backpack fashion show make a return and I'm impressed at the immortal Justice can actually pull off most of the recent backpacks we've had. This opens the gate for so many cool custom builds though I do agree that they could have easily given you like another hand in the runner though I'm guessing they probably wouldn't want to have people complaining about more spare parts. Still another impressive mobile suit in this line even if I'm not a big fan of all of this seed milking.
Justice Gundam + Saviour Gundam = Immortal Justice Gundam, lol.
I'm glad that they made a modern justice kit that has more adaptable parts. Its been frustrating that I haven't been able to customize my other justice kits.
Always happy to have a new justice.
according to the info on the ImmJ, the backpack has more thrust than the InfJ Fatum... but when you compare them at @12:05, Fatum engines are far more huge than the ImmJ... like 3x bigger...
What sets it apart is the backpack. Unlike the other Justice gundams, this one can’t send its backpack flying separately… or am i wrong?
Yeah, this is the only Justice Gundam variant that can't deploy it's backpack and don't have visible, long barrel cannons sticking out from it's back.
Immortal Savior Gundam
Its design looks slick and organic indeed. Also correction, this is Shinn Asuka's suit.
He knows. If ever you didn't notice the text pop ups.
"yup, I know" when he said Athrun
this newer seed freedom hg kits looks like very jacked af dude in a gundam costume it doesnt feel like giant robot piloted by human
They are more based on the lineart rather than the animation itself hence their "jacked bodies"
lmao if theyre more based on the lineart they'd turn out like the original seed HGs
@@razrafz i was just about to say the same thing, the og hg seed & seed destiny capture the lineart proportion pretty close. the most balance between proportion and likeness i think the hgce revive line up, they look like their mg counterpart but scale down to 1/144
The colors on this look so much better than the infinite justice.
Shame that the shoulder joints aren't standard but i looked at the manual online I still want this for those beautiful arms. I have a kitbash in mind for this.
Just finished the HG Infinite Justice kit and have to say I prefer its look over the newer model.
This will be my first Seed Freedom Kit. I didn't get the Infinite Justice bc of the pink. So happy this one is red!!!
They should have changed the shape of the nose hood and had the rifle connect to it with a 180 rotation of the waist to more Wing Gundam the flight mode.
The color and design reminds me a bit of the savior gundam, I wonder if bandai would make a new revive hg kit of the savior gundam i love that design
I don't know if kira and Athrun are going to pilot their respective Gundam. Kira most likely is going to pile up the freedom but, Shin Asuka could be piloting either one of those I think. I believe I saw him in the trailer so he might be in a different mobile suit.
Greatest off all time, u r saying it in almost every video nail polished man
That hajiroboshi 2nd form makes a cameo seems to be the next review
Did a bit of thinking and a bit of research. I can now say with some degree of confidence that they missed an opportunity to make the Immortal Justice a forward-swept wing jet in MA form to differentiate it from the Rising Freedom.
I guess I have a reason to buy it now.
Aegis white claws everywhere, from head, shoulders and its * bleep * 🤣
Their mobile armor mode is based on Murasame, a transformable mobile suits that change into flight modes.
Hey mecha gaikotsu,im just wandering if u could do a video about build a gunpla but using glue
Do you have a review on that Hajiroboshi?
I like how Mecha just casually have MHA season 2 anime in the background-
the grey vulcans look nice but they should be darker. Try painting them with a gundam marker, it will look even better.
Doesn't the Rising Freedom have the exact same base adapter that connects the shield...?
I glued the Falling parts From Arms And Waist and also the Backpack
The savior we never got…pretty cool…but can we get an hgce original justice though?
He keeps saying Rising Gundam, and dammit, I've got my fingers crossed that we get one some day.
Man this makes me wish for a REVIVE of the hg 00 kits
Hope they make athruns z'gok with a justice underneath
I didn't know they really liked the Saviour Gundam's gimmick, but kind of happy they decided too since it was one my Fav's from Destiny that really got unceremoniously but badass in a way death by Freedom.
shocked that the shoulders are on ball joints, takes me back to the late 90s/early 2000s gunpla. theyll probably get floppy over time.
nah they will not
I really hope bandai finally comes to their senses at the seed hype and make some nice retail hg zaft grunts
Im literally scrambling to find any junk parts in my collection to make a supercharged cgue hg idea just because no guaiz to match hg gunbarrel dagger cystom and m1 astray custom
If they make the destroy gundam then surely we can get a hg guaiz or ginn revive
Heck retail seed would he awesome (still salty about strike dagger revive and its possible implications)
They are making Destroy Gundam which is sort of a grunt MA at this point of CE. The rest of the grunts they should be doing if they're willing to make a destroy gundam after all this time.
They actually just reissued some kits from SEED recently including the Lagowe
Question can i switch Justice's head cone with Freedom's?
Reminds me of the Saviour Gundam
Doesn't the infinite Justice have an adapter that allows its backpack put on other units?
Immortal not getting an optional hands just convinced me that shinn was never the bandai's fav child
Rising Freedom with Immortal Justice's backpack looks like the Destiny 🤣
Can I ask why the Destiny in the refrigerator?
To me this is more of a successor to the Savior which really got shafted. Love Athrun suits and really trying to hold out for a 1/100 version, but I might cave and get this.
I'm just starting out trying to record myself building gunpla. Do you have any tips besides lighting?
It’s only the “wings” of Freedoms that makes me satisfied. But this Immortal Justice is versatile!
I pre-ordered ❤️ ❤️ ❤️! Thanks for the review!
ANNNNND the backpack has the 2 port-peg connector too! Yoshi!
You should reviewstrike freedom and immortal justice 2.0 together when they come out since Kira and athrun always fight together
This is actually the first time that I prefer than Justice over the Freedom. in anime form and in gunpla.
Infinite Justice still the best for me, the design, the articulation, the cape silhouette of the back pack 👌👌👌
If the Infinite Justice and the Strike Freedom are basically the same except backpacks can we expect a MGEX Strike Freedom expansion pack for the Type 2 and a Type 2 Justice MGEX/MG
Will Mighty strike freedom become sticker hell like Rising?
The Mighty Strike Freedom doesn't really need much in the way of color-correcting stickers given its color scheme and similarity to the Strike Freedom, which they managed to color separate properly with the HGCE.
The main difference with the Mighty SF is the wings, and while those also have stickers they're meant to be glow effects shining from inside the wings, rather than color-correcting stickers permanently visible outside.
Athrun didn't pilot this one. Shinn did Mecha
You shouldn't comment a spoiler here dude
Really? That has me curious. Can't wait to watch the film
He wrote "Yes, i know" in bottom left of the video when he said it (0:41)
To be fair the movie is still not out outside japan
@@kentdmayorit’s not a spoiler it’s been confirmed for awhile and even shown in the newer trailers
i think you should check out the thunder incise grace,its quality are phenomenal for a non bandai mecha kit
Did you watch the music video of Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Freedom? It’s really great and awesome together!
Gonna wait for Master Grades and the inevitable Perfect Grade Mighty Strike Freedom that comes with parts for the Strike Freedom Type 2. Give it a year, maybe two. But it's coming.
What is the name of the base you use on both freedom and justice?
Funny how much he calls this an "Athrun Zala" suit
You can see a note in the video that says that he knows
I find it hard to like the Immortal Justice, considering the backpack isn't the same as the previous Justice(s). Basically they killed every aspect of the detachable, independent backpack to a generic wing that doesn't even swivel or have its own beam guns
Eh, I don't really mind it honestly and they did it on purpose because the Immortal is a purposely downgraded MS especially that it uses battery rather than nuclear
That Z'gok looks amazing!
I felt that "Yes, I know."
If the Beams on the feet/legs didn't exist this gives me Savior Gundam vibes than Justice
so if his gundam is well endowed, does that mean athrun is compensating in this movie?
My infinite is getting a bit floppy as well. It was supper tight, almost too tight, when I first built it.
The blade on shoulder no function?
Got mine a few weeks after this review was posted but I ended up super-gluing the crotch spike in place to keep it from falling off.