Shadows of Drakkenheim Episode 48 : No Easy Choice

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  • @dakotakelty-floughton3997
    @dakotakelty-floughton3997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Caspian naming scheme: [Planet] [Musician]. BRB making a caspian bard named Mars Hendrix lol

    • @chellyakabubblesdadragon1232
      @chellyakabubblesdadragon1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How does this comment not have more love, been kind of thinking that was the name play for caspians from season one

    • @TommyTheCat83
      @TommyTheCat83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This comment needs more love. I'm gonna make a flamboyant druid named Mercury Mercury.

    • @cdwarrior6582
      @cdwarrior6582 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But then there’s George and Saul… idk what to make of this. Also, Uranus Osbourne.

    • @sparki420
      @sparki420 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'll join you with my Bardbarian named Saturn Black!

    • @jessegitchell8114
      @jessegitchell8114 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Technically a moon, not a planet, but. . .
      Titan Wham the Noble Barbarian

  • @devin5201
    @devin5201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I just remembered that delirium is addictive to magicians and that probably plays a big role in why the academy is so reluctant to destroy even the tiniest bit of it, the higher ups are most likely snorting that stuff like there's no tomorrow.

    • @cdwarrior6582
      @cdwarrior6582 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We need delirium addicts anonymous

  • @nightmajic
    @nightmajic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    the look on Kelly's face when he realizes he's not talking to who he thinks he's talking to... priceless.

    • @DungeonDudes
      @DungeonDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I honestly did not see it coming at all.

    • @nightmajic
      @nightmajic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@DungeonDudes It was so genuine, I could tell. Masterfully executed by Monty. And that maniacal laugh that followed....

    • @MegaNoob112
      @MegaNoob112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DungeonDudes did Monty tell Jill to get Sabastion to explain his vision to her or was that just a coincidence?

    • @DungeonDudes
      @DungeonDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      From my understanding (which was explained to me after filming) Joe and Jill didn’t know what was happening or it’s context to the full extent, they were briefed before the episode to act “weird” and get me to explain the events of the last couple episodes if they could.
      But the twist was a surprise even to them.

    • @MegaNoob112
      @MegaNoob112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DungeonDudes cool, thanks!

  • @Sirfinchyyy
    @Sirfinchyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Monty playing the Queen of Thieves is gold. He always manages to back the players into a corner or dance circles around them verbally.

  • @sulthanfatah7802
    @sulthanfatah7802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Monty that was slick. That was dirty. That was vile. Oh my goodness I think "that" reveal is the sleaziest move I will ever see a DM make to date. Absurdly fantastic, you had my jaw on the floor at all times

    • @krogaen741
      @krogaen741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just finished the episode, but what move are you talking about? I feel like it's going right over my head

    • @krogaen741
      @krogaen741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was it the Queen reveal for this episode?

    • @jakeholmes9296
      @jakeholmes9296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@krogaen741 i think they are talking about the fact that Monty got Jill and Joe to play along and play Veo and Pluto as being mean to Sebastian and acting like they should give up. Only to reveal to Kelly that the players were in on it and actually it wasn’t them.

  • @LastRider2006
    @LastRider2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Listening to Eldric talk about designs for remote containment and detection posts, flashing back to the elven ruins, and now wondering if we're not stuck in some giant time loop.

  • @MrBigBentz
    @MrBigBentz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love how the falling fire is crazy but the academy that wants to tinker with the magical death rocks are completely "sane" 🤣

    • @johanwittens7712
      @johanwittens7712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair, the academy has proven to be able to harness and use delirium, and they have small scale prototypes ready and working for what they're planning to do.
      All Lucretia Mathias has is her vision, her interpretation of that vision, and her totally unfounded assumption that self sacrificing an entire world will stop the spread of delirium. And it's not even sure that, unless she gets hundreds of millions of people to jam delirium into their chests and then willingly sacrifice themselves, her plan will work. And even then there's no guarantee it will work except her word.
      The academy is the better option here in my opinion. Especially if their plan fails, at least there's still the option of trying to destroy the delirium. In Lucretia's world no effort at all is made to stop the spread of delirium, only an uncertain effort to make it "golden".
      Lucretia is a religious zealot not open to anything but her way and her way alone. She blindly believes her way is the only way, and it's basically the cult trope of drinking the coolaid and in doing so becoming something else... She's literally talking about sacrificing the entire world, and does not tolerate any other view. At least the academy is open to negotiation and adjusting their plans if need be.
      In Lucretia's plan the world ends no matter what, wether her plan succeeds or not. At least with the academy's plan or the sacred flame's plan there's a chance for the world to survive.
      So yeah. The academy or even the silver order are a lot saner than Lucretia by a long shot.

  • @pw3829
    @pw3829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Ah Pluto is so noble! “You can’t negotiate with me. You gotta negotiate with US”

  • @anonymouszebra1239
    @anonymouszebra1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is just so good in every way. Godlike RP, cool and funny characters, and realistically-sticky politics. I also like how
    Monty is so charismatic in the NPCs he plays (especially the Queen of thieves) that he seems almost able to convince the characters (and players?) into things simply by talking to them. It’s truly awesome. Can’t wait to see what happens next.

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If Monty was an actual bad person he could be a scary super villain

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The title, "No Easy Choice" can apply to pretty much every episode of both seasons of Drakkenheim. Monty is so good at allowing the players to stumble in to unexpected dilemmas.
    2:18 "Apparently we have a big problem with apostrophes..." That's better than having a big problem with colons.
    35:16 "You only wrote down, like, five names; and then you gave up..." The banter between the players is top-notch.
    2:08:00 The Sphere of Elemental Mayonnaise? That's part of the Condiment Continuum, isn't it?

    • @TheCBC1984
      @TheCBC1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eggsactly. oil see myself out.

  • @thewarpandrealms9889
    @thewarpandrealms9889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Oh wow, Sebastien saying "what's the worst that could happen? That's the worst that could happen." Right before the conversation twist is a great moment.

  • @brittanyanderson97
    @brittanyanderson97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Never going to get over the fact that Sebastian basically opened a gate to the lower planes to try to get laid. That’s just peak teenage mage right there.

    • @thatindiandude4602
      @thatindiandude4602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The ultimate representation of men thinking with below their pants

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kills me 🤣

    • @AjenjoAnejo
      @AjenjoAnejo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And he didn't get it, lets not forget that.

    • @brittanyanderson97
      @brittanyanderson97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@AjenjoAnejo To be fair having your sibling dragged through a portal is a huge turn off

    • @AjenjoAnejo
      @AjenjoAnejo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@brittanyanderson97 Nah, he wasn't gonna get it anyway.

  • @davidinserra1965
    @davidinserra1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I remember when I was catching up on the first campaign last year and I found Drakkenforce’s “betrayal” of the Silver Order after the battle for Temple Gate to be really difficult to stomach. That is, I get why Sebastian then, as now, drove complete trust in the Academy but I didn’t like how the Silver Order was so quickly cast aside (and felt like maybe Veo or Pluto would have had more reason to stand with the Order). I really liked this return to Drakkenforce as Veo and especially Pluto are now openly skeptical of granting the Academy carte blanche. It felt right to see Pluto openly suggesting that destroying delirium with the Silver Order was a viable or even preferred path. It felt like the decision made in Cathedral many moons ago was made even harder here, even if it seems unlikely that they can depart from the Academy at this point.
    I’ve also just gotta say that I have loved reading the alpha pdf and am pumped for my table to play next year. Already have players asking for background from the book to think through their characters. Ran my first campaign as a DM this summer and am now running Dragon Heist as a way to practice running factions. I think it might be time to join the Patreon and get in on the discord conversations around running Drakkenheim.

  • @alexanderfeoktistov6826
    @alexanderfeoktistov6826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    If Monty and Kelly don’t write a sequel to the Dungeons of Drakkenheim campaign which involves a mission to a Delirium meteor than what are they even doing?

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Full blown 90s movie action sequel Armageddon style. Pluto is bad ass enough to be Bruce Willis. Well they all are, really 😎

    • @alexanderfeoktistov6826
      @alexanderfeoktistov6826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alexinfinite7142 I was more partial to Deep Impact myself, but yea you're picking up what I'm putting down.

    • @AC-eb7kt
      @AC-eb7kt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im liking everything about this lol

  • @thisisarobberyb4398
    @thisisarobberyb4398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh shit! Ooooh Shit! The moment the queen of thieves appeared revealing she’d played Sebastian like a goddamn fiddle was such an amazing twist! Masterfully orchestrated. Had me pogging all over the place

  • @bluebird3281
    @bluebird3281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    One of your best job's yet Monty!
    You're all fantastic but this episode Monty was extra fantastic.

  • @jimw7723
    @jimw7723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    We have to bring in everyone. Well, except those that don't want the academy to be the all-powerful overlords of the planet.

  • @chbailey081
    @chbailey081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how Eldrich here is basically is the plot of Don't Look Up, just a few days before the movie came out. Monty is amazing.

  • @darrenromanko2414
    @darrenromanko2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One of the best parts of the week is when we get more Drakkenheim. Great as always.

  • @Axiom_Link
    @Axiom_Link 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omg y’all are killing me. @26:00 “we can’t get eaten from behind and the front! It’s like a hot dog, you only eat one end!” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheBigSh0w
    @TheBigSh0w ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This episode was fantastic for DMs running DoD because it gives a glimpse of most of the factions and how they would approach the endgame, and what they were working towards the whole time. Granted it's even a little bit past the endgame but this is very very helpful

  • @briancox3526
    @briancox3526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A good point was made about there lacking leadership in the group. Sometimes it feels like they are 3 dogs connected by leashes taking a walk. They think they are being guided by their owner but the owner ain't there. The only one giving them any guidance is the tension they put on the leashes between them. Veo stops at every snack, Sebastian is headed to where he thinks he buried his toy, and Pluto wants to chase skunks. I'm glad Pluto was more assertive this week in voicing his displeasure about how the others talk about treating those they made alliances with. Gotta ease Sebastian from going into a dangerous yard looking for his toy.

  • @dizzykincade7831
    @dizzykincade7831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Somehow, I forget how stoked I get for a new Shadows episode...right until I settle in on Friday afternoon!

  • @TerraDoctor
    @TerraDoctor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Letting the players roleplay that conversation (at ~40min) then hitting them with that twist was hilarious and so satisfying for the DM, hahaha!

  • @CrownlessStudios
    @CrownlessStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Spoilers:
    "I lost my appetite thinking about it" was such a good attempt by Jill to get Kelly to say the thing!

  • @spencerbrown6238
    @spencerbrown6238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    And she's back, this episode goes from strength to strength.

  • @PointofPerspective
    @PointofPerspective 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The thing that's going through my mind during all these deliberations is buried in the name of the stuff itself: Delerium. The respective factions (including the Silvers) are delirious about Delerium, which is the most suspect situation of all!

  • @gregoryrussellakainfinitet6682
    @gregoryrussellakainfinitet6682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, huge props to Monty(and Kelly), not only for writing such a great story and setting, but specifically for acting from each concerned party in such a way that makes each choice both viable and convincing. All their choices are great and terrible. Hubris, blind faith, greed are still all flaws in these decisions. Doesn't matter how high a level players get, no one is a god in the world of Drakkenheim with right answer. Feels like you could play it out a bunch of times and end up with a different ending like so many great games out there. Brilliant, sir.

  • @crabel99
    @crabel99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    They need a new Edicts of Lumen. But this time there are 4 factions involved.
    Each of the involved factions needs to gain something form the relationship that can only be gained by through the relationship. This also has to work under the existing Edicts. This idea is predicated on the truths of delerium:
    1. left unchecked it will destroy the world/universe.
    2. represents a powerful source of energy for magic
    3. can be miraculously transformed into a force for the light and is as such sacred
    Basic Structure:
    Drakkenheim Nobility (Wolfgang and Veo): Granted/maintain ownership of the city of Drakkenheim and the throne. Responsible for guaranteeing access of all other parties into the city.
    Amethyst Academy: Granted ability to mine delerium from inside the city in return they will 1. Implement the prismatic shield and 2. pay a royalty to the Drakkenheim for the extraction of the delerium and a tax to the Sacred Flame. Will provide support to the Sacred Flame through the Elven ruins to search out and eradicate delerium concentrations outside of Drakkenheim.
    Falling Fire: Granted unrestricted access to the city protected by Drakkenheim Nobility and funded through the AA royalties. Making a martyr of Lucricia is a very bad idea, plus the purification of the deleriumm is truly a miracle with the ability to save the universe. Lend relics in their possession to the Sacred Flame to resurrect the dragon. The censure of St. Vitruvio is critical to their act of purifying the delerium so they must be given it back. Their duty through faith is to purify delerium to spread the light into the universe.
    Sacred Flame: Search for rouge delerium in the world to eradicate it funded by the taxes paid by the Amethyst Academy. Recognize Falling Fire as an authorized (non-heretical) sect of the Sacred Flame. Recognize that Drakkenheim Nobility is in rightful possession of the city and withdraw their army. Drakken Force will provide them with the diamond needed to resurrect the dragon, which they will control. Lucricia will assist in the resurrection.
    Wolfgang is key to this. He will name Pluto's Nephew as his successor to the throne. This is the concession to house Jackson, which will be given the eventual royalties for their immediate protection and securing of Drakkenheim's boarders.
    The Queen of Thieves isn't playing by a structure other than what gives her power, so it's hard to work her in, so I won't, but she will profit out of this arrangement through blackmarket trade in delerium so it isn't bad for her.

    • @anonymouszebra1239
      @anonymouszebra1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This looks pretty much as good as I can think up, but many factions will typically object to not getting *everything* that faction wants.
      Every faction has an individual incentive to be selfish at the expense of the other factions and the world.
      E.g. I can imagine Eldrick (idk how to spell it) not letting ANY part of the falling fire stay in the deal because they view them as a threat to the academy’s goal of total domination.
      Maybe the only way to get a true compromise is for the party to become so powerful that they can basically threaten everyone into accepting a compromise. 😂. This campaign is so real but also so hard!!! So well done with politics but also idk what I’d do as a player. It’s torturously awesome

    • @theomegapotato370
      @theomegapotato370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      One thing for certain is that the Queen of Thieves needs to be eliminated for she presents a threat to the world due to her selfish desires and her potentially ruling the continent as some kind of a Lich Queen (she did mention that she wants to live for more than a 100 years)

  • @chimchim1372
    @chimchim1372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Super enjoyable. Old dude here just reliving the game play experience
    Cheers Dungeon Dudes

  • @pyrhaa
    @pyrhaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "You didn't even touch your towel !" lmao

  • @nothing4mepls973
    @nothing4mepls973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eternally blown away at how effectively Monty can just keep building stakes and role-playing so many characters so effectively. I am humbled as a new DM, I wish the Dudes would put out a few videos on how to act and run so many deep characters

  • @Southpaw_Blue
    @Southpaw_Blue ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “If we can’t work this out together, we’re all going to die alone.”
    I see your brilliance Kelly.

  • @spencerbrown6238
    @spencerbrown6238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    24 minutes in and my mind is already blown; I just know this is going to be a classic episode. Keep up the great work team.

  • @JimboTauJones
    @JimboTauJones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the factions.
    Amethyst academy is:
    “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”

  • @VuvuzelaTM
    @VuvuzelaTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gratz again monty, your queen of thieves give me nostalgia, remembering of Carmen Sandiego! Just amazing!

  • @euchiron
    @euchiron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    58:12 "I mean, going by your judgement, I would consider that a compliment."
    The Queen of Thieves is the Queen of Shade 🤣
    Edit: 1:40:20 "Well that needs to stop yesterday."
    Though Sebastian is no slouch 😜

  • @collinkelch7764
    @collinkelch7764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really want to see Pluto go through the sacrament to buy the will of the falling fire. Also need to know more about the elves and what mum’sie knew…

    • @brunofranchini
      @brunofranchini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes I'm really into this. It kinda annoys me how Sebastian always sway them in favor of the Academy who is clearly playing an angle for power... F#$@ the academy, let's go Pluto with falling fire and the dragon.

    • @maxomus2460
      @maxomus2460 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okj king i

    • @petrus9067
      @petrus9067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brunofranchini the fallen fire is a cult and they litterally want to convince everyone to let themselves die for "the age of heroes", not to mention lucretia wants just as many control as the academy

  • @SchplatJR
    @SchplatJR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been behind by about 4-5 months worth of episodes. I mainly consumed it via Apple Podcast so I could catch up the 20+ hours I was behind at all times. But this one, I watched the video.
    This episode reminded me why video is SOOO important. Monty did a nose touch (as in "You're on the nose Pluto") at 48:55 that nobody acknowledged but is SOO important for the viewers. That is totally something a listener-only would miss. It makes me wonder how many other things I've missed!

  • @joshuagiddy9769
    @joshuagiddy9769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love the Queen of Thieves coming back :D That was such an expert reveal from Monty! Still really liking the let Elyrians destroy the whole damn place plan but that's mostly because I don't trust a profit driven organizations like the Academy. I do think Veo was getting a bit hung up on protecting from future strikes...like yes it's a danger but if you hesitate on immediate action because of some unknown future threat then nothing gets accomplished.

    • @callumc3006
      @callumc3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      SPOILERS 😭

    • @darev2335
      @darev2335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@callumc3006 bro! Never read the comments before you watch the show!!

    • @callumc3006
      @callumc3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@darev2335 Ahh I know, was poor timing on my part - it was right there at the top! Ahh well, still such an epic episode/reveal!

    • @neillindgren8992
      @neillindgren8992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I’m kinda hoping Wilhelm shows up soon to straighten things out before Sebastian convinces the rest of the party to make a bad decision (I guess it shows what a good role-player Kelly is to play such different characters where I’m hoping one will stop the other from doing something foolish). I’m also thinking the Elyrians destroying the place is the best choice, but it’s not the Academy’s profit motive that’s scaring me, but rather their arrogance and hubris. Honestly, the more Sebastian talks about the force field plan, the more even the Queen of Thieves sounds like even she might be a better option than the Academy.

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish I could write villains as good as Kat the queen of thieves. My god. The fact that she can basically be anywhere at any time is scary enough but the way she talks is the absolute best: she never speaks above a whisper and it's so damn menacing

  • @hamishcurrie220
    @hamishcurrie220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahh, that was just sublime. That reveal was masterful. Their faces were absolutely brilliant.

  • @williamthomason9643
    @williamthomason9643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sebastion Crowe: "We are a team, and we have to do everything together...as long as we agree with the Academy regardless of the dangers they are tampering with in secret." lol

  • @carragorby3004
    @carragorby3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That queen move was everything. I'm going to have to try a similar move with my players in the future.

  • @NicolasChapadosGirard
    @NicolasChapadosGirard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tricking Sébastien/the player was awesome.

    • @ericbishop8046
      @ericbishop8046 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His name is kelly

  • @wreckemdaileas8647
    @wreckemdaileas8647 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Queen of Thieves is a DM’s dream for a complex and pliable npc. So much fun. I love reading the Queen’s Men’s section in the Dungeons of Drakenheim book.

  • @spydrmn89
    @spydrmn89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well played montey! I have listened to this campaign for over a year and my family never asked questions. My reaction to that reveal had everyone in my family asking questions about WTF was going on! Lol wow! What the fact that you them role play that part out. Wow.

  • @imabossDJ
    @imabossDJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    28:57 in my head i always hear "SHIELD!!!"

  • @couryrussell7653
    @couryrussell7653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    43:15 masterfully played Monty!! Masterfully played my man lmao that was such brilliance hahaha

  • @JUST_GAUNT_GET_ENOUGH
    @JUST_GAUNT_GET_ENOUGH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ended up watching the shadows first then went back and watched dungeons once veyo and pussycats showed up. I just now got caught up and it all tied together so perfectly. Well done Monty. Well done.... I can't wait to get a drakenhiem game going at the table I run.

  • @igayparisjr
    @igayparisjr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m so glad we got to revisit the old crew! Amazing job you all!! ❤❤❤ bravo!! ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @bautistapappolla2726
    @bautistapappolla2726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i wonder what would happen if voltaire banemoon touches the heart of delirium
    also the real answer for the meteor is in the elemental plane of mayonaise

  • @dillonbodnar2393
    @dillonbodnar2393 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lucritia Matthias is such an excellently crafted character. Most fantasy stories featuring a powerful religious figure with extreme beliefs automatically paint them as evil or untrustworthy, but Lucritia manages to walk a fine line between madness and goodness in a way I've never seen before, giving her a dynamic position in the story despite being a relatively 2-dimensional character herself. Truly inspiring character design

  • @BlackShadow1991
    @BlackShadow1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The hard choices, especially when the stakes are high, are the best ones, because they are memorable :> Good stuff, Dudes!

  • @KaineVillante
    @KaineVillante 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A dragon makes the best sense as it can fight both the ratings and the outer armies.

  • @a-aron391
    @a-aron391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I say again, one day I hope to have a laugh as evil as Monty’s

  • @nightflame69
    @nightflame69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way Monty was just sitting calmly while veo, Sebastian and Pluto were having the really big argument was just a little bit disturbing

  • @seymourfields3613
    @seymourfields3613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just now coming back. I had finally caught up with you guys a few weeks ago and while waiting for new releases, I binged all your Untold Tales! Now I've got them all watched so I can catch back up on the Shadows.

  • @Gwalothel
    @Gwalothel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way Monty was laughing when he pulled off the thing with the queen totally freaked me out (0.0;;;)

  • @walth5409
    @walth5409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @43:43 thats the laugh of a madman

  • @donalddouds6033
    @donalddouds6033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So basically the gist is as follows
    1) The Academy basically wants to reinstate the sorcerer kings of old
    2) the academy wants to create a martyr by betraying and sacrificing Lucretia
    3) the prismatic shield is a giant target of the full night of the Elyrian forces
    4) the hubris of the mages and the academy in dismissing the night of divine magic and paladins is laughable given that historically they defeated both the sorcerer kings of old and proceeded to mount an inquisition until the edicts were reached as a compromise.
    That about sum it up?

  • @PartialDemon
    @PartialDemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best possible outcome, Amethyst Academy initiate operation super shield. The Silver Order and Falling Fire rejoin forces to hunt down delirium that has gotten outside of Drakkenheim and convert it to yellow delirium. The Amethyst Academy open gates to infected worlds and allow the Falling Fire to make pilgrimages to 'seed' the infected worlds with the converted delirium. The spread of delirium is halted, the academy gets to study delirium, the Silver Order gets rid of 'all' the 'unregulated' delirium on the planet, and the Falling Fire gets to spread their brand of salvation. Everybody gets what they want, if not HOW they want it.

  • @z3r0koo17
    @z3r0koo17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saul Jackson turned into Steelfang for a minute there...

  • @Iveno-Von-Aethervein
    @Iveno-Von-Aethervein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sooo... how does Delirium or the Delirium Heart react when in contact with the Golden Delirium?

  • @the_trooper584
    @the_trooper584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it.......I'm a Hooded Lantern...(Simon here!!!) As ever, great folks, cheers 👍👍

    • @mis3161
      @mis3161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yasssss welcome to the lanterns, we have cookies 🍪

  • @rorybeckstrom9602
    @rorybeckstrom9602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best solution sounds like, put queen of thieves on the throne to run the politics, ryan greymere as the archmage, put up the prismatic barrier, have the illerians help clean up and destroy and the delerium that escapes, and have lucretia and her followers act as the oh shit it got away button if the barrier fails.
    Could fail horribly though if the academy doesnt play nice, if lacretias followers sabatage the barrier, or if the sacred flame does, Queen of thieves may take too much, and ryan seemed like she wanted to upend the edicts of lumen and who knows where that would lead

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like there is a way to get everyone on board to fix the problem. I mostly agree

    • @YMasterS
      @YMasterS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The corruption of people would see that fail. Some would get smuggled out, it would take root and grow and eventually become a threat.
      Over time, organisations and nations would forget or question how serious the threat is, or believe they'd grown mighty enough to contest and contain it.
      Even if people can be selfless enough to come together for a cause, they can't be selfless enough to maitain that cause over many generations.

  • @LlorDrei
    @LlorDrei 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It might have been easier for Sebastian to get the point of his vision across if he had shown it to everyone using Minor Illusion.

  • @pw3829
    @pw3829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you guys put out a poll for which deal the PCs should go for? I’d love to know what other viewers would do.

  • @phmic5
    @phmic5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eldrick, Saul, River and the 3 pcs sit at a table...and I turned to my wife and said "We're gonna need a montage! Montage!" Yes I sang the whole song. Eye rolls everywhere.

  • @thomasharvey2980
    @thomasharvey2980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Runeweaver's description of the future sounds like the perfect setup for a future campaign! Fantasy bordering on sci fi with delirium tech fueling space expeditions, it's just too perfect.
    I can't be the only one that wants a delirium lightsaber and an airship style space craft

    • @drawberry_jam
      @drawberry_jam ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drakkenheim spelljammer 👀

    • @thomasharvey2980
      @thomasharvey2980 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drawberry_jam Yes on every level!

  • @odinulveson9101
    @odinulveson9101 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well acted and played! Totally got me. I bit off and believed Veo and Pluto doubted Seb. And... oh my.. Lady snek hello!. Also Shield... Dragon? Ehemm well Dragon Shield DOES make excellent GM, Player companions, dice trays and spell/ ability card books👌😁 The leather exterior is really though, durable, live up to its name and worth the money you spend!

  • @j.f.5162
    @j.f.5162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy to think the rat's nest was over 3 years ago.

  • @LlorDrei
    @LlorDrei 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A question they should all be asking themselves... If Lucretia knew the ritual to bring back the dragon, doesn't it follow she knew about the diamond, making the delirium superfluous?

  • @DarkMagican80
    @DarkMagican80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wenn das mit der Geode schief geht, haben wir ein neues Minental, wie in Gothic :)

  • @NegatveSpace
    @NegatveSpace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pluto's dad: Boy, any idea you have will be as great as that beard! :)

  • @1hirek
    @1hirek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do you think it would be much work to put Drakkenheim into the world with Forgotten Realms pantheon?

    • @DungeonDudes
      @DungeonDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A really important factor in the Drakkenheim campaign is that the gods are silent and distant, and don't operate in the world or speak directly with mortals. You can easily use the FR pantheon, but having the gods actively involved in the world could create some plot holes.

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DungeonDudes it would be a extra unnerving if the gods were very active up to the point when the meteor fell. Then, after delirium arrived, the gods go radio silent. THAT would be really spooky

  • @esgeir9499
    @esgeir9499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm in for Lucretia! Go Pluto!

  • @jeffreybomba
    @jeffreybomba ปีที่แล้ว

    The whole reason delirium grows in thin places is because it draw energy from other planes. Creating a delirium/haze energy loop would probably rip open these tares and collapse everything.

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sebastian Academy CAN'T contain the delirium, the proof is DRAKKENHEIM

  • @Pixaley
    @Pixaley ปีที่แล้ว

    Pix of Plutonia bites into their BARRBURRITO burrito as PLUTO Jackson says the word burrito.
    How are you doing this?!? This episode was filmed a year ago!! I haven’t had a burrito since JUNE!!
    I blame the disembodied hands. I frikken KNEW IT!!

  • @JimboTauJones
    @JimboTauJones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do we get an Absolute power corrupts absolutely version of the Academy?

  • @FedericoVetencourt
    @FedericoVetencourt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The issue with this kind of political faction intrigue is that there's only so long you can go without choosing ONE faction above the others before they WILL put you to the corner of having to decide. In this case almost NO faction is willing to be second place and they all consider the other factions too dangerous, problem is? THEY ALL ARE! Great game Dungeon Dudes!

  • @hathus5536
    @hathus5536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally caught up :D just got done watching through the other 47 episodes lol

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sebastian, the amethyst academy is GUILTY i repeat GUILTY for what happened to drakkenheim

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sebastian the "reshaping world" the academy did, is by spreading the delirium among through not Westemar but caspia and other kingdoms

  • @justensharpe9523
    @justensharpe9523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one that wants Pluto Jackson to take the sacrament and side with the fallen fire. Imagine him getting to take some levels as a fighter/paladin.

  • @TeslaandDragons
    @TeslaandDragons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With Starwars wrapping up and the Alpha available, I might be starting my own Drakkenheim game soon.
    Is there a spot on the discord to share how horribly my players get mutated?

    • @DungeonDudes
      @DungeonDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We have the Drakkenheim GM chat, which for the time being is for questions on running the game, or stories about events that happen in your games.

  • @jensstaal
    @jensstaal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow what a roller coaster.
    Spoilers below:
    My take from this is that it highlights the importance of nobility/king to balance the powers of the church and academy. Giving the perfect geode to either the academy or the falling fire leads to a dystopic future, and doing nothing leads to certain doom.
    Ophelia just offered an interesting balance: the golden dragon using a perfect diamond instead of the geode. If she can make peace with the falling fire to awaken the dragon while the academy builds the containment field, the two powers will be balanced within the city.
    To pull it off and to force a truce between academy and church, someone probably needs the power of the throne (the Willhelm wild card?)
    I am surprised that the academy shows so little interest in researching golden delirium and the process of jamming delirium into the heart to get haze resistance. A divine soul sorcerer doing such research would be a very cool ambassador between those two factions.

    • @aaronapley258
      @aaronapley258 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Literally using this in my Drakkenhein campaign

  • @primordial-chaos00
    @primordial-chaos00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how is Veo staying in shape with snacking habits eating all the time? a person could use snacks aginst Veo as her weakness like for example cake that could be poisoned.

    • @dakotakelty-floughton3997
      @dakotakelty-floughton3997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cats have extremely high metabolisms in reality, and in most D&D art are portrayed as excessively thin/lanky. Though I think a self-indulgent sassy fat cat would be a fun tabaxi to RP.

    • @mis3161
      @mis3161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      after becoming lord commander…she went from ally cat to house cat though lol 😅

  • @mountelbert4214
    @mountelbert4214 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a little late, but I did think of a bit of a plan that they could do (they might've come up with this, but I haven't finished the video):
    They put up the force field, and let the silver order go inside to try to purge it, but without the threat of it spreading. The SO gets slaughtered, losing men, money, morale, and materiel. The AA then goes and offers them a deal of helping them do the thing, but with some rights given to themselves for the use of delerium. They kill two birds with one stone, draining an opponent of resources while still being able to study and improve upon the use of delerium.

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play a Drakkenheim campaign as a Paladin his deity is Kelemvor (Judger of the Damned) oath of Conquest

  • @zoejones6001
    @zoejones6001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the academy in this episode really gives me BASH in Don't Look Up vibes right here,,,,,

  • @NegatveSpace
    @NegatveSpace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somehow Sebastian eats exactly half of each towel lol

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sebastian Ashshaffen was corrupted, in WHOSE Fault? Academy

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 ปีที่แล้ว

    Queen of Thieves you will not YOU WILL NOT sit on the throne

  • @shawnodea5129
    @shawnodea5129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you guys gonna take drakkenheim into space?

  • @jamesgarish9833
    @jamesgarish9833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dungeon Dudes I've been looking for lore on Coronus for a Greek themed campaign but have been struggling to find anything. Any insight or help would be welcomed. Thanks guys

  • @alexwhitney6372
    @alexwhitney6372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like they're really glossing over the fact that lenneth said she had her own plan for fixing the delirium issue

  • @HiopX
    @HiopX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:07:47 Veo learns of Alchemy Jugs and is sold

  • @CrazyKungfuGirl
    @CrazyKungfuGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "the sphere of elemental mayonnaise"

  • @KaineVillante
    @KaineVillante 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not gonna lie super shield gives me big Jurassic park vibes. And we all know how that story goes. Lol