1983: Could THE DOCTOR be a WOMAN? | South East at 6 | Science Fiction | BBC Archive
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- Peter Davison, the Fifth Doctor, has announced that he is to hand up his Panama hat at the end of the current series of Doctor Who. Who will he regenerate into? A crotchety old man, or perhaps even a woman?
Fran Morrison chats to Davison about his stint as the Doctor, and whether he feels he may have been too youthful for the role. Doctor Who producer John Nathan-Turner is on hand to discuss Davidson's successor. Is there any truth to the rumours circling in the press that he is planning to cast a woman as the Doctor?
Clip taken from South East at 6, originally broadcast on BBC One, 29 July 1983.
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Peter Davison is the most underrated Doctor
That's like saying beige is the most underrated colour.....It really isn't.
@@lewis7515 I’m not saying he’s ‘the best’ doctor, as if you can truly compare the better doctors. I’m just saying he was really good and you don’t hear people talking about the 5th doctor. You hear ‘9 is the best,’ or ‘3 is the best.’ I even hear a lot of people saying 8 is their favourite. Peter Davison should get a little more love. 10 as an archetyp is based on 5 and Tennant is most people’s favourite
@@brobs0463 He’s my co-favorite, with Jon Pertwee.
@@brobs0463I didn't suggest that you said he's the best. You said he's, "the most underrated"....
If most people don't talk about him as much as they do the other Doctors, there may actually be a reason that's to do with his impact, among most people.
You, can characterise that in several ways - and, you, choose to call it being, "most underrated". I, simply say that to do so is exactly like saying, "This plain cheese sandwich is the most underrated meal" - when it really isn't: it's rated just as highly as it deserves.
@@lewis7515 Whatever mate, it’s just opinions
3:00 Did she just call us "Doctor Who freaks"? Omg 😂
I had to rewind that bit! 🤣🤣
1983: Could THE DOCTOR be a WOMAN? | South East at 6 | Science Fiction | BBC Archive 24.7.24 1248pm i like peter davison in dr who and sink or swim and all those othe rmnic emiddle class sit coms he stars in wherein he's married to some scatty lady and all manner of idiocies ensue... he's cotrrect re: the dr having to be irritable.... we wouldn't have him any otgher way. as for the dr being a lady... i think that'd be akin to the wonder woman being played by benny hill.....they like to ruin things, don't they? i am sure there is more scope for a sci fi lead role being played by a lady somewhere....... good luck!!!
The Fourth Doctor stated his age at 750, and the Seventh, 953, so the Fifth was somewhere between.
Peter later said that he regretted not staying for a fourth year. Patrick Troughton had advised him to not exceed three years in order to avoid stereotyping. Troughton had also advised the producers to reduce the number of episodes per season from circa 42 to circa 24 to improve quality and performance.
Romana II was a test run for a female Doctor in the 1970s.
I didn’t know Troughton suggested that they cut the episode count, it was a very good idea
@@doctorwhoproductions834 Yes, he said that it was too exhausting for the cast and crew.
If they had copied Romana's characterization, Jodie would've been received far better
@@mevolander8478 100% An aside: Romana's ability to fully shapeshift was never further explored.
I still love the old fashion about British, the way they talked, the classic accent, the way they move so relaxing and elegant at the the same time.
As a Asian people, I cannot find these sights in UK nowadays but only in old videos. I felt sad.
It was standard practice to train people in the performing arts to speak and act like that, no matter where you were from.
In modern England/UK you'd find people who come across like that in the upper middle class and in the South East of England.
I live in Surrey, which is in the South East of England, and most people either have that middle class sound, or sound like they are from South London. There was also a local country accent, but I believe that has died out now. The last people I know of who had the local accent were in my grandfather's generation.
The Queen's English as I like to call it is disappearing at an alarming rate, I sometimes struggle to understand what is being said on TV these days😢
@@rogerbeattie2263 Don't you mean The King's English Roger?
@@hopebgood It will always be Queens English to me
@@rogerbeattie2263 🙄 You make Jacob Rees-Mogg seem modern.
Ncuti Gatwa was the same age Peter Davison was when he started to play the Doctor (29 years).
Nice to know, I'll remember that
Nobody cares .
Didn't realise this (not sarcasm like other comments)
Matt Smith was 26 when he was cast, is and still is to this day the youngest actor to star as The Doctor
Anything after Peter Capaldi isn't canon to me.
It's interesting to see J N-T in this interview. Apparently, during his tenure, the production was often beset by rows amongst staff, over the show's direction and choices; one reason for Davison moving on. Only two further Doctors, before the hiatus.
Stories eventually emerged about predatory behaviour, behind the scenes...
Ah, but he went on to play an equally as courageous and inspiring doctor in A Very Peculiar Practice two years later.
He recently turned up in Beyond Paradise as the love interest of a character played by Barbara Flynn. It made me smile seeing them together again.
Swapping the Tardis for the Surgery!
The very cut glass RP accent of Fran Morrison!
That was standard BBC back In the day . Much clearer diction and internationally understandable .
Tom Baker and Peter Davison were my Doctors as a kid.
Christopher Ecclestone as an adult.
The top three.
This is quite an interesting look back I met Peter back in 2019 and he was so nice I've gotten an autograph from him although I've since lost it but what a nice travel back in time
The majority of Doctors have been older. The youngest are Ncuti Gatwa, Matt Smith and Peter Davison. Davison is now David Tennant's father in law. 😁❤️
Nice to see the archive loading SDTV into 50fps. Now we just need to apply the BBC WHP 283 LUT and show it in HDR.
I have no idea what you said, but I concur.
I respect this level of geekery
Apply the what?
I think Sheila Hancock would have made a wonderful lady Doctor. A great character actress and she would have been the right age.
Yes
Definitely! Here is my alternative universe female Doctors 1-5: Margaret Rutherford, Hattie Jacques, Sheila Hancock, Miriam Margoyles, Polly James.
@@dogbreaththe3rd851 You may not like her but she is eccentric and formidable, qualities which all these women share.
@@robalexander8065 No consideration for Beryl Reid or Maggie Smith?
She's great actress, but not doctor Who material.
Ironically he returned to All Creatures Great and Small
There can be only one Doctor, the genuinely eccentric and intelligent "Tom Baker" (he famously said in an interview he didnt have to act, he just played himself whilst reciting his lines ❤).
When he took over, I really did not like him, as I was a mega fan of Pertwee, but Baker is very, very good. And the Tom Baker years are probably some of the best of Who.
I hate to say it, but I think I may have finally grown up, as I just cannot get into Doctor Who anymore :(
I am going to have to run a test - get some beers and watch all the Doctor Whos from the start.
Although, I should probably start from Pertwee, which is where I actually started watching the show.
That's an insult to the three previous Doctors who without them there wouldn't even be a 4th Doctor.
A lot of older people that tuned in back then actually hated Baker’s Doctor portrayal after Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee. But he is definitely the most iconic and popular I think years later. He had such a long run and most of his stories were huge integral plot lines in the history and story
I thought there was something on in my room, but there's a very faint high-pitched buzzing in this video haha
Know as the Doctor ?
I knew him more as Tristan Farnan in All Creatures Great and Small
1:09 and they ended up with Colin.Baker 🤣🤣
Sue Cook's pulled out
Michael, change that to an afternoon with just alan partridge
Joanna Lumley should be next doctor
She’s probably too old for the part now, but a few years ago she would have been great.
@@DiRtYLaWs2007 she was great in Steven Moffat's _The Curse of Fatal Death._ Sadly a very short comedy role.
I think Niamh Cusack would've been fantastic as the Doctor when she was in her 40s or 50s - especially with those enigmatic eyebrows!
34 years later, Jodie Whittaker became the first actress to play The Doctor, who she ad that role until 2022.
I was actually looking forward to see how she played the role, but then they let her use her own voice! I really don't like her natural voice.
The voice she put on for her role in that police series (with David Tennant) set in the West Country, I wish she used that for Doctor Who.
I think I might have actually grown out of Doctor Who now, which is a shame, as I have not been able to get back into it since Tennant left.
And the writing was awful, and the ratings went into the crapper. Should 007 be a woman? No. Should Mary Poppins be a man? No.
@@miller-joelneither 007 nor mary poppins are shapeshifting, fundamentally genderless aliens in lore now are they?
@ifly-fsx are James Bond and Mary Poppins Time Lords? No? Then shush!
That woman had great foresight, she envisioned a female Doctor and that Dr Who fans would become freaks at any sign of people criticising the show as to why the viewing figures are declining.
I love Kevin Bloody Wilson's impersonation of JNT! 🥳
What? When did he do that??
Peter Davison never really had another big role after leaving Dr Who. Not in the sense of Dr Who or All Creatures….. these were probably the most well known roles he ever did and he was never as big a star after leaving the show
And yet he had one of the most successful careers after Doctor Who. Even David Tennant and Matt Smith only had one or two other visible roles, but so did Peter.
@@whophd yes but you ask anyone to name them and they probably couldn’t that’s the issue
@@CricketEngland The Last Detective was really geat
He had his own detective series Campion, on the BBC.
I thought Dave Lee Travis was a radio presenter?
LOL
Doctor Who ended when Capaldi left and since then I have been touching grass everyday! ❤
Ngl, i liked jodie as the doctor. She had in my opinion a lot of potential. Chibnal simply screwed it up. You can’t make a good character with bad writing no matter who the actors are
She just tried to be a female Tennant, she was like a wet mop.
Totally agree with, luckily Doctor Who wasn't put into hibernation after Jodie Whittaker like when the series was let down by the writers during the Sylvester McCoy years. My Doctor Who era was Jon Pertwee/Tom Baker and you would get the odd story that was a bit stupid but it always bounced back.
Nahh she was just bad too. Even a good doctor can carry a bad script.
She was awful. The character suits a woman about as much as wonder woman suits a man
Jodie grew on me, and Jo Martin won me over within her first minute. Chibnall's era wasn't always great, but there's still a lot that was.
Like 80s Who that had to grow post Tom Baker, modern Who had to grow beyond Tennant's as well. Tough acts to follow.
Female Doctor for that era, someone like Maggie Smith, but the Doctor would be below her pay grade.
Maggie Smith would have been great - back then.
Now though, you would run the risk of ending up with terrible writers (far too many about), and no matter how good the actor, you'll suffer.
@@ChuckstaGaming You could have the best writers in the world and the best actress, but it will always be an enormous challenge. David Tennant in a great actor, but I'm not sure he could replace Uma Thurman in Kill Bill. Certain roles have a strong presence and personality imprint, which is unique to that role and is difficult to fulfil by an actor/actress. Ratings are always a good indicator.
I always liked the old Dr's before Eccelstone/Mcann. They had this charm. Sorta like the charm you get with Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
It's surprising that the BBC didn't consider Jimmy Saville as a potential Doctor Who. With that trademark cigar, shell suit, peroxide pageboy hairdo, wild goggly eyes and "now then now then" catchphrase he'd be a perfect foil for The Master. Played by lovable old Cyril Smith. A BBC scheduling triumph as Jim'll fix it morph's seamlessly into a who's who of dodgy characters. Rolf Harris, Jonathan King, Stuart Hall and even a young Hew Edwards playing various nerfarious roles. Good ol' family entertainment as doctor Jimmy travels with his young assistants. The Police Box TARDIS obviously a beeb in-joke.
Those accents from 40ish years ago! How language evolves is comical...
Peter is my childhood Doctor, so it is impossible to be objective. He was right to leave, of course. But what is interesting about this clip is how our perceptions have changed. There was no expectation that the future of the show (or of anything at that time) should necessarily resemble the past. And, regardless of nostalgia now, I think that's actually been enormously damaging in British culture this century.
Finally giving a female Doctors for me is the greatest thing the show has ever done & i've been a lifelong fan for decades. I long for the day we have another one.
Interesting how, back then, a female doctor would have meant a more glamorous role (certainly to JNT's mind). Who knew many years on we'd finally see Jodie in the role! Also, didn't Davison leave essentially on the advice he was given by Troughton, to do 3 years then get out?
I loved Doctor Who pre-Eccleston. But i could never get into it
Niamh Cusack in her 40s or 50s would've been fantastic as the Doctor.
Back in 1983, the Doctor being a woman was an interesting what-if and now we know how great that turned out. Such a shame a great actress and a great female doctor wasn't supported by the best stories, but some of the stories (such as the historically political ones with social commentary) were great.
I’m not alone in thinking Whittaker was let down by some really poor writing, and you could say the same for some of Smith’s and Capaldi’s stories which were where cracks started appearing. Also, the ceiling has been broken as far as female doctors go, it won’t be seen as a one-off experiment and there will CERTAINLY be female doctors again in the future.
@@DiRtYLaWs2007 I think Whittaker was awful as well as the writing of her stories. I didn't see a single highlight moment from her and to be honest, some of her later episodes had decent material. Everytime she'd get outshone by her companions and supporting cast. She had the acting range of a loaf of bread.
It could and thats a big could of actually worked if wokeness didn’t ruin this day and age and was so heavily stuffed in Doctor who’s agenda now. Like if they were actually serious about a black Doctor. The actor Lennie James or Lenny Henry would of been a phenomenal choice and I actually would of been so behind something like that. Ncuti Gatwa and Whittaker just aren’t The Doctor. Whittaker did have it bad with some truly dire writing I must say tho
Nu-hu's stories have always been garbage.
Whittaker had potential but wasn't given much of a chance to shine (although yeah, I agree, there were good episodes), and I'd hate for the takeaway to be "Doctor Who can only work when it's a man in the role". It's worth another shot at some point. Not saying let's kick Gatwa out, because I wanna see him get as much of a chance as anyone else (and I think he's off to a solid start), but once he's done with it, I hope the search for the next Doctor isn't limited to men just because that's what's been known to work.
If they had gotten the whole first woman doctor thing over with back then people wouldn’t have been so whiny about it today. Anything that happens in the social media age just ends up with complaining.
_the very idea_
I think they'll get Colin Baker next.
Prophetically by JNT, the first female Doctor did have two male companions. Chibnall must have been watching this.
That's entirely possible - he was a massive Whovian around this time.
They were always on a hiding to nothing after Tom Baker went. He was so iconic (and my doctor!). And the Five Doctors that they so presciently did thankfully. Poor Colin Baker.. he really wasn't bad just a victim of Michael Grade and his ego.
All this awful boomer-type nonsense in the comments about the new Doctor being crap /pc/blah blah. It's not for you. That's it. Just like people complaining about eg Taylor Swift. Get over it, the Beatles were for you. As if that wasn't enough.... 🙄
(upvote for the second para BTW - Tom Baker was great but he's not my Doctor and the show has had great periods since IMO)
@@anonymes2884 you're right 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
They never guessed it would sloop so low as now . Met them both back in the day . Charming folks especially JNT .
What does that exactly mean?
@@El--Grimaldi I mean "sloop so low as now"
@@friendlyotaku9525 horrendous poor writing , terrible acting , contrived politically driven messaging. Under the guise of diversity but actually all driven and controlled by old white men and the Crown establishment . Back in the day it was written by truly creative free spirits who weren’t under direction .It was actually way more subversive then against the status quo . When supposed ‘progressiveness’ echoes the talking points of Royalty, multinational corporations and bankers , that’s the opposite of freedom and choice . It’s why they put a 61 year old white man back In charge . Horrendous
To answer your question,No !
Miriam Margolyes for Sixteenth Doctor!
For a long time I'd hoped that Tilda Swinton would play the First Doctor in a reboot or prequel, as she resembled Bill Hartnell. Either as a male or female character. Now, I have less confidence in the BBC, though.
I think they botched the Jodie Doctor badly. It's really difficult to watch ever since Moffat took over -- he was a great writer but a bad co-ordinator; his successors have taken cues from him, unfortunately.
@@dogbreaththe3rd851 Disney have led the charge for decades undermining creativity with their heavy lobbying of indefinite corporate copyright with intl compliance. They are the very definition of corpirate totalitarians, and should literally be tried at New Nuremberg along with Bibi et al.
Sheer nonsense. Moffat was great.
Peri
Flash forward 35 years and Whottaker made history ....iconic 🌈💙💙✨ 🚀
Haha, it would have been cool if they gave Thirteen "a glamorous young man" instead of the "fam"
Peter Davidson, the last doctor I regularly watched. Was I getting to old (23) or was it going down hill seriously as did the Modern series. Now it's gone to Disney here in Australia and I'll have to rely on the DVD players.
Thus confirming that 'Doctor Who' has been going downhill (in some fans' estimations) since at least 1984 :).
@anonymes2884 Since 1989 actually, Colin Baker's era was superb thankyou.
I could see Bette Davis as a great doctress who.
Er, "doctor" is a gender-neutral term, Dear.
@@primalconvoy yes, I know that, just wanted to be different.
@@primalconvoy"Doctor" is indeed gender-neutral, but "doctress" is not. There are other fine feminitives like "actress", "waitress", "princess" or "aviatrix". Don't be prescriptive, dear.
@@TinLeadHammer excuse me!!!!!
The year is 2024 an the answer is still NO!
Could the Doctor be a super gay woke black man who tells fans to go outside and touch grass then complain that nobody is watching?
Boy did they say some cringe things back in the day 😂
He should of stayed longer. What else has he done since of any worth? Not much right. He's not mr Hollywood is he. And he's not mr bbc either. Should of stayed
That is HAVE, not OF.
Should have!
Maybe get away from the TV for an hour, read a book. Join the library.
Jodie ended up killing it, even if the scripts let her down.
That's the real issue - the writing quality. It's dire these days, it seems.
@@ChuckstaGaming Sew true.
@@lewis7515 lol, oops - I corrected it :)
That's not the first time I confused seams with seems 🤦♂
Don’t be ridiculous. They can’t both be women
And we found out it was a stupid idea to have a female dr who
Gone from a kids show to militant identitatarian agitprop not suitable for families 😢
Many people here is complaining about how bad for the show was giving the role to a woman and that Jodie killed the series. Calm down, the true responsible person was also a man and his name is Chris Chibnall. Jodie simply worked with the garbage scripts made by HIM, and she was brilliant despite everything. It's a shame that your sexism prevents you from acknowledging that.
I tire of this strawman argument. There are many perfectly reasonable and legitimate arguments why the Doctor should be played by a male actor that have *nothing* to do with sexism, misogyny or chauvinism. For example, an argument Davison himself put forward was that the Doctor is one of the few positive male role models in film and TV today; he's compassionate, open-minded and uses his intelligence to solve problems instead of reaching for a gun. Davison's concern was that gender-swapping the character would take this uniqueness away and, potentially, prevent younger male viewers from identifying with the character. No sexism there, I think you'll agree.
Another argument that's equally as valid is that while it's just about possible to accept Colin Baker regenerating into Sylvester McCoy, or Christopher Eccleston regenerating into David Tennant, changing the character's sex might just be pushing the believability of the concept to absolute breaking point. After all, you need to accept on some level that all these different iterations of the character are still essentially William Hartnell's Doctor, albeit with another face and focusing on different character traits. With the casting of Jodie, there was also the argument that this was stunt-casting, or a shallow - perhaps even cynical - attempt to make a show that has otherwise always been forward-looking and genuinely progressive superficially more 'PC'. Again, these are all perfectly reasonable: I honestly don't know why people like you insist on smearing the opinions of others purely because you disagree with them.
On the subject of Jodie herself, I've always liked her as an actress, but - in my view - she was miscast as the Doctor and brought nothing of value to the role. (And yes, I will concede the scripts didn't help.) Anticipating your follow-up response to this comment, no - I would prefer it if the Doctor had remained male, but if I was asked to choose a suitable female candidate for the role, I would've approached either Olivia Coleman (obvious choice) or the wonderful character actress Lucy Montgomery. They would've been far more in-tune with the role, and perhaps even made Chibnall and co.'s abominable scripts more bearable to sit through.
@@richardenglish2195 Although there are not many male characters with the same values as the doctor in pop culture, those values are perfectly valid if they come from a woman and there are no reason for a young male to not assimilate them (or maybe there are, but we already discarded those reasons, right?).
The premise of the doctor is that no matter how they look, the motivation for every incarnation is the same and that's discovering life, defending that life, helping as many as possible whenever possible. It's the method that changes every time and that changes are the soul of the show itself.
Decidedly that changes in the series are not always for good but as for the gender of the doctor, that's not a barrier that shouldn't be surpassed because it's not an issue for themselves (as a character, because in the context of the show the time lords don't attach their identity on gender but on the ideas, the motivations, etc.) so we should be way ahead of that conversation at this point.
Now, I also have preferences for other female actors over Jodie Whittaker TBH, but that doesn't demerit her work on screen. The best next example is Jo Martin who in a couple of scenes nailed the role of the doctor, but then again, the script's were the spine of 13th, all the flaws and lacks and also the good traits came from Chibnall, not from Jodie.
I myself don't like completely the 11th doctor, for an example and that's not because I don't like Matt Smith, but it's a well known fact that not all the fandom enjoyed all of the scripts of Steven Moffat as a show runner and some people think that he writes the best under RTD wings and I somehow agree with that. Without all the drama, the idealisation of the doctor and the "connecting the dots" thing for every season finale (not to mention how he writes female characters), I do enjoy Matt Smith's doctor and Moffat's stories over all, 12th included and more recently, 15th received some of the good writing from Moffat. My point is that the performances for "new who" have been excellent over all, so the actors are not to blame if something doesn't work and Jodie's performance was fun and light hearted, bringing new light over the doctor's character and personally, I loved her in the role, but she could have done so much more with better writing guiding her performance.
@@DoctorMysterio15 I'm not saying compassion, open-mindedness, etc are invalid if they come from a female Doctor; the point is that those qualities are very rare in male characters in popular franchises. If you take away the ones that actually do exist, you suggest to younger audiences that only women are capable of those properties and, therefore, perhaps deprive young men of male role models who can move beyond traditional representations of masculinity. This is a complicated subject, which, as I attempted to argue in my previous comment, goes far beyond lazy category definitions such as 'sexist', 'chauvinist', etc.
That said, fair point about Jodie unfairly taking a lot of the flak for poor creative decisions. Capaldi suffered the same at Moffat's hands, but then, alas, people will sometimes confuse the face of the show with the creatives behind the scenes. My view of her performance isn't coloured by the piss-poor scripts she was given, more on her particular take on the Doctor, which, to me, didn't sit right. But then, it's all subjective.
@@richardenglish2195 @richardenglish2195 Of course, most of the male characters do go carrying weapons and shooting at troubles, but there's plenty of male characters that also do align with goodness and kindness in books, comics, TV, cinema, etc and them also had to recurre to get physical some time or another. Hell, ultimately even the doctor has been at the other end of the gun multiple times. However, due to the complexity of the subject, it can't be narrowed to saying that the doctor can't be female and I'm not remarking that point because of you specifically, but for all those who think that by the mere fact of altering the doctor's gender is enough to condemn the actual course of the series. There are plenty of other complaints cemented in some other forms of intolerance and/or radical opinions in the form of how "woke content" is poisoning the pop culture and so on. Even here in TH-cam people is making content upon this kind of discourse and to me, that has more to do with some sensitive fibres being touched subjectively than with a fact. It's as some people says: "If it shocks you, it checks you" and maybe they should consider where the real problem is.
My main problem with the Chibnall era is that there were too many companions. Three in the first series (four in the first episode!) so the scriptwriters had to give them all something to do with their own sub-plot. It was just too cluttered & messy. Especially for a new Doctor. Maybe gradually introduce more later on, but not when the audience are just getting used to a new Doctor and suddenly the Tardis is like Picadilly Circus.
The problem is now they are trying to be so cool and hip they forget they just need a good writer and actor, and to make them the DOCTOR OF WAR.
Worse!
WOKE DEI EIGHTIES 👿👿👹👹👺 (this is a joke)
uh, no. you would not be able to outright dismiss the idea of considering a FDoc these days lol
Each generation 'crowbars in' the latest thing on the agenda and sometimes it works but you can force too much of a thing into an established franchise so it's original identity and purpose just evaporates.
Mary Whitehouse did away with the Tom Baker 'almost Gothic Sci-Fi' horror phase of Doctor Who and I will never forgive her !!
Tom Baker will always be the Doctor for me. But I don't get upset by the direction the show takes. New generations want completely different media. The show isn't for me anymore and I don't think it should be. It was always a fantasy for teenagers and as long it keeps working for them and with Disney buying it, who knows whether it will continue to work. They have a habit of grinding licences into the ground.
@@dogbreaththe3rd851 and now could you type that in English??!
@@dogbreaththe3rd851 😂 ok sweetheart keep your jackboots on
Despite all the squabbling and arguing on this thread; I would love that Tom Baker Doctor Who type to come back and have that sort of semi-morbid, semi-ironic dark humour he had back in the day. It was just incredible. Looking back it was amazing. Also I watched some old repeats back in the 80s of the Pertwee, William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton Doctor Who's and they were incredible also; as a kid I was excited that even 20 years ago back then starting in 1963 the BBC could make incredible tv like that before I was born. Learn from the old masters is my advice to any future Doctor Who writer and actor.
@@user-ub1dz8js7s back to the days of hiding behind the sofa from Davros! lol
Like in star trek picard ,and in the next generation was a woman (i think jane something)
Yes indeed. Kathryn Janeway played by Kate Mulgrew. And excellent she was too.
The outstanding Star Trek "Voyager" series. Captain of the Voyager (a small exploration vessel "lost" in an unexplored quadrant of the galaxy) was Katherine Janeway.
Star Trek Voyager was / is highly regarded by both fans and critics.
Maybe Dr Who could be a transwoman dwarf?
only took them 35 years, AND she turned out to be rubbish
He can be a woman but it would tank the viewership
What a shame that Dr Who has been turned into an agenda ridden Left wing lecture, instead of the great entertaining show it once was.
The 3rd Doctor's era was full of marxist and anti-capitalist elements though, allthough the modern series 2005+ has a lets say "different" way of doing it, it's nothing actually new.
@@ChadOldman Not the same
@@machineguncrally7020 Ah, do you mean you find theres too much of a focus? Classic who definitely had it's politics but didn't really smack you around the head with it and felt more "naturally" part of the story IMO....
@@ChadOldman Yeah thats bang on. Its not the same as todays evil and indoctrinating influence and message
The good old days. New who is no longer for children. In the last two episodes the word "lesbian" was used in the dialog. Why introduce sexuality in the show like that. My 8yo is too young to have these discussions. It's a crying shame abou tnew who's overt pushing of sexuality.
Turn that crap off. Go watch the old school episodes
There's going to be a drag queen in it..... Perverse.
Nobody gets this upset about kids Disney princes and princesses, and they even kiss sometimes! 🙄 Go fearmonger somewhere else
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Hello There! The world has moved on past your small minded bigotry.
That was said firstly as a joke by Tom Baker, then John Nathan-Turner said it to the press when Davison left just to throw the off of the scent.
It was NEVER, EVER a serious suggestion and everybody knew it.
Its hilarious how some fools cite this as how the series was 'Woke' back in 1983.
It wasnt even suggested or thought of that the Doctor could be either gay or black. Anyone that thinks it could have been are insane.
JNT: 'it is feasible that the Doctor could turn into a woman'.
Back in 1983 the Doctor being a woman was an interesting what-if but now we know how badly that turned out along with the poor writing, weak plots, excessive and unnecessary retconning, abundance of dull companions and crowbarred themes. Still, in 1983 they could never have imagined that it would get even worse with the fifteenth incarnation which is so far from the Doctor Who character that it becomes bad parody.
I liked her. I thought her performance needed tuning but as she was a slave to the writing she didn't really have much choice. She's a good actress if you see her other stuff so I blame the writing 100% I liked the idea of a female doctor ever since Joanna Lumley became the Doctor for a children in need sketch. She nailed it so well I was up for her doing the role for real.
@@ClayMann Margaret Rutherford or someone like her might have made a good Doctor.
@@ClayMannJo Martin was much better I thought
All of those criticisms were literally nothing to do with the doctor being a woman, false equivalence
@@liamastill6733 I didn't say that the Doctor shouldn't be a woman but that it turned out badly along with the issues I mentioned piled on top. Jodie Whittaker wasn't right for the character but I suggested Margaret Rutherford above and others have suggested Sheila Hancock, Tilda Swinton and Maggie Smith, who are all good choices.
The presenter probably would have made a very good Dr Who, the one they got definitely not so. In truth the series was on the wane by the time this interview was done. Today it is simply a means to push gender politics by the BBC.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Doctors from Pertwee to including Davison (I have never watched the first two Doctors), and Eccleston and Tennent were great too, but the others weren't that good and modern Who needs to be put out of its misery.
The doctor had female sidekicks and that was enough.
Companions
It took 40 years to find out that the Doctor couldn't be a woman.
It could be. But it didn't. Why?
Mix poor casting choice (Jodie), aggressive social messaging and very poor Chibnall scripts and you have a recipe for disaster.
The next Doctor should be a dwarf
a non binary dwarf
the doctor will never be a woman
She was. Get over it.
@@FrankNFurter1000what do you mean? There have only been five doctors and they’ve all been men. Even in the video he says it’s unlikely that a woman will be the doctor.
@@Dynastone You stated that the doctor will never be a woman, which implies even since this interview, omitting Jo martin and Jodie Whittaker.
@@FrankNFurter1000 what are you on about? I don’t know who those two are but they certainly aren’t one of the five people who have played the Doctor.
@@Dynastone Whatever keeps you happy, love.