Closet grow light comparison CFL vs HPS vs LED
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We compare CFL vs HPS vs LED grow lights in a typical closet grow setup. The cabinet is a standard 500mm wide and 600mm deep size and is lined with silver mylar in a diamond pattern. The three lights are tested for Photosynthetically Active Radiation or PAR levels, power consumption & heat output.
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Products tested:
'Nordic designed furniture' 600mm deep x 500mm wide x 2000mm high white cabinet.
600W Sunmaster grow+ Photonic dual spectrum bulb
Generic 50cm x 40cm hammered aluminium reflector
Lumatek dimmable ballast
250W Elektrox CFL dual spectrum
Testing equipment:
PPFD (PAR) measurements: Apogee SQ500
Spectrum measurements: Asensetek lighting Passport
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The power of led vs say cfl is huge I know but at 28 euros for a cfl vs 370 euros for this led light, for budget growers this is not affordable, the problem you and every other high quality led maker has to overcome is the damn price of these units, so please try to find a way of bringing this technology to the closet grower at a lower price.
Tucker the fact that you don't have to change bulbs out after every transition from veg to flower (6000kv for veg 2700kv for flower) and after every grow you are going to end up with a lot of light bulbs and barely enough weed. After you get passed the initial sticker shock of an led the overall cost savings of not having to replace lights every 6 months, and lowering your a/c cost. You'll be way ahead versus an hps or cfls, not to mention the QAULITY OF THE BUDS in my opinion beats hps and will crush cfls. LED technology is just like tvs, when flat screen tvs came out the average 9 to 5er couldn't afford it, now everyone has one. Led grow lights are the future of growing so stay tuned (pun intended) if you don't believe me just check out my channel. Smoke1
+CLK Products
Thanks for the comment.
Tucker there is also the point that using such large CFLs is not the most efficient way to go at it. It is better to distribute several smaller lights closer to the canopy than one large light in the centre. For I stance, a 100 watt cfl in the middle and 4x 40W around the sides would yield better results.
Cannibus the Flowerpimp i change bulbs only once a year and i have found hps works just fine for both veg and flower
Monthly electric bill will eat up the difference alone much less the bulb replacement aspect - LED more up front - but worth it
Whilst allowing for the fact this a few years old...
The fixture and bulb costs for CFL are wildly exaggerated by about 200%. Fixture given as €120 and bulb at €80. Real figures nearer €50 and €30 respectively.
I'm not a huge expert on HPS but you can get a ballast and fixture for €50 and a bulb for €10 so those figures are wildly exaggerated too.
The heat figures for CFL and HPS are only valid in a completely closed system but who grows in a completely closed system? Ultimately almost all of the energy you put into a lighting system of any type ends up as heat and it doesn't matter which method it is that turns the electricity into photons. Eventually all the light will be absorbed and warm the enclosure... Basic physics. The only thing that really matters is how much *useable* light it produces per kW/hr because it all ends up as heat one way or another. An unvented box will heat up to the same temperature with a CFL, a HPS or an LED of any given power... It's just a matter of how long it takes to get there... 10 minutes or an hour.
I see the *16 hours per day figure but that's assuming 365 days per year. If like me you're only growing about 100 days per year all of the annual savings figures and "repay" times are vastly out. Not only is the energy consumption about 25% so is the speed with which the bulb wears out. I have a 125w blue CFL I use for the first three or four weeks (three small plants per grow) and it's older than my youngest dog and he's five next week.
I borrowed a good quality LED fixture last year off a neighbour and I wasn't impressed at all. My plants do better under my CFL than they did during that grow and as the scale of my system is so small any energy savings would have been at best a few tens of pounds per year. Nowhere near enough to justify an initial outlay of £300+ when I already have something that works well enough.
My set up is a couple of reflectors, a 125w blue CFL for seedlings and babies. 2 x 250 blues to be used for vegging, one bulb for young ladies and two for more experienced women, and then 2 x 300w red for the last few weeks. Total set up cost less than £200 spread over two years as I went from single plant to two or three, some of it's over ten years old and the annual replacement budget is about £20-£30.
Sorry... It think you've made too many assumptions, fudged the figures and then rigged the starting conditions... And oh look... You sell LED growlights which just happen to have won the competition
Wish I could afford a Migro light, that 100 watt looks like a beast, ah champagne taste on a beer budget I guess. Awesome videos,!
I disagree when you say cfl is very poor to grow...23 watt 100 equivalent bulbs cost about 7 bucks and with a rotation of 6500k for veg then 2700k for flower, you can achieve nice results for under 50 dollars. I prefer a combination of led, cfl, and hps and have been very impressed. Even a 150hps, mars 300w led, and cfls will blow your mind when used together
John. We are focused on efficiency. CFL are cheap to buy but not to run. I agree you can achieve results with CFL. However you have to use 3.5 times the wattage to get the same result as a highly efficient LED.
John Martin +1
@@StratosIRA +2
This is a good commercial for the Migro LED's:) Can you show me more videos of how your lights are better than every other light!
Exactly! Is a trash video for pour kids.
A cfl with 250w is much brighter than that 100w led.
A cfl 250w dual spectrum have 15.000-17.000 lumens and a 100w led have 9000-10.000( in a good case, but is a rarity )
A hid/mh/hps 150w is almost equal but low than a cfl 250w.
In this clip i saw just a measuring of red spectrum and that is insane.😂
Thank for these precious information brother....
Hello. Very informative. But I didn't quite understand: what is the distance from the lamp to the sensor?
250W HPS with reflector and and ballast goes for 75euro at the local grow shop. 250W CFL with reflector costs 95euro.
For the price of migro 100 I can get a 1000W HPS setup. It might be a more expensive to run but can you imagine the yields
I was getting 3 to 5 oz per plant with a 1000w HPS. Mind you, this was WITHOUT a veg cycle. Straight 12/12 from rooted clone. Every 2.5 months
Great for growing clovers
6500K T5 for Cloning and Germination. CFL is just as good but T5'a spread the light much better.
315 Watt CDM for Veg (Phillips 942 Daylight bulb) and Bloom (Phillips 930 Agro bulb).
Made the switch from MH and HPS to CMH/CDM and never looked back.
think i might try a 450 watt CFL , should be around 600 ppfd if the 250 is over 400, hell yah!
Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately the best options are rarely the cheapest. CFL lights are very poor for growing and even with a very cheap CFL bulb you are still paying back with a MIGRO light in 2 years because of electricity costs. Also your yield will be 60% better with a MIGRO100 !!!!!! 1 good grow cycle will repay your investment. You save thereafter for 10 years and have much less heat to deal with.
+CLK Products
Thanks for the comment. There's a 15% discount available through the guys doing grow diaries on the channel. Also shipping is free. Then there's getting so much yield from a small space!
CLK Products i wouldnt call COBs "new" technology.....While its more advanced than old epistars, its old compared to the Quantum boards.
+StealthyMonk +StealthyMonk Hi. There is a grow diary promotion on 420 at the moment. The grower and code is 'Autobeast'. Just apply it in the checkout before paying and you'll see it applied before payment is required. Take care
soo full of shiet..
At $0.12 per KWH 12 hours a day 365 days a week is 7884 hours. 150watts is 15% of 1kWh or $0.018 per hour. 107 watts is 10.8% of 1kWh or $0.01296 or 1.296 cents per hour. .018 x 7884 is $141.912 for the 150 watt HPS. .01296 x 7884 is $102.17664. You save just under $40.00 USD per year. I believe this is a good light for growing one plant if you have an initial investment to pay for it.
$282.25 vs $150.00 free shipping is $132.25 This is over three years or 3.3282 years before your light pays for itself via electric bill. So for a curious person with low funds the 150watt HPS will be the best every time. Unless you know you will grow for greater than Accounting for tax $282.25 with the 4% tax you are looking at $293.54 or now 3.61 years before your electric bill pays for itself.
Just enjoy both.
lower the cfl you crazy fool?
This is an ADVERTISEMENT, people. Seriously...
Fucking Right! Just like every other LED grow light company!
i bought a cob light from e-bay that was only £20 which has better ppfd and par than say an optics one
Thank you, I change my mine of getting the 400W HPS/MS and will get instead the Micro 100!
how is the result?
even better for the money- a vero29 200w panel from buddyled
$80 400w HPS ballast from ebay, + CFLs from dollar store.. lots of perlite, over 1 lb of lieu hanh 99 and original haze
600 version for $1640 + will you will need 6 wall outlets I'm guessing + 4 hangers to hang it?
+Micah Ulloa
Hello. The 600 has three drivers so you need three outlets. We supply four ratchets to hang the rail. If you want more information please email me at info@migrolight.com. thanks, Shane
I'm not sure that you can do the math. 711/438 = 162.32 so 62%. But yea. 39.49 is closer to 40.
Please tell me the link so I can get the micro 100 led lights
+manny jones migrolight.com thanks
a 237 euro 150w hps yeah right.
This is bs you're just promoting your own product
Agreed and blatantly rigging the game from the outset with bogus price comparisons.
You should have used another led than the one you sell, it made this whole video a cynical advertisement not a comparison
A balanced full spectrum MH would have surpassed them all
@delosombres light intensity and a balanced color spectrum is more important. MH puts most HpS and leds to shame and will go outside the par range which studies have shown to be bennificial. When dealing with larger plants leds can lack canopy penatration. Most of these tests/results never factor in conversion bulbs either. If you care about plant growth per watt per square foot it's still very hard to beat an hid.
Lies the mh grow light is superior in every way. First hand testing.
sales pitch
If heat is not a problem HPS is much better. 99 percent of all pro grows in California and Colorado use HPS.
Here in the Nederlands there is pretty much no pro grower that uses led, al the led bullshit is just propaganda. light output is not the only thing, hps makes plants sweat what makes them grow faster and end of the day hps is the winner.
@delosombres lol HPS is dead tech. Marijuana was legalized last year in Canada. With that said, you'd think everyone would be running leds seeing as it's the latest tech. They aren't running leds tho. Keep trolling bro.
99% is a lie. Even 2 years ago when this comment was posted, it wasn't 99% of commercial growers using HPS. Commercial growers will use whatever lighting makes sense commercially. For a long time, HPS earned them more money. But HPS is a finely tuned technology already. It has been optimized about as far as it can go, and it's not really advancing in any useful way. HPS really is dead technology, like the other comment said. LED grow lighting is a younger technology with more room to get better. I agree there is a lot of LED propaganda online, but the tech is definitely improving overall and it will be used more and more in commercial grows. I haven't seen any recent stats on what light sources they use, but in 2016 it was 62% using HPS and 15% using LED (flowering stage lighting). I'd guess it's below 50% using HPS in flower by now.
no cfl has high fucking heat output lmfao
The led is to high to buy
Best way to fail at growing cannabis is to buy an led...that's what the grow boss says...and he owns a hydro store so he's heard it all.
downfan1 only for when you flower 😆
Marijuana plants do best with many light sources. LED and Supplemental CFL or HPS works great.
Best way to fail is to listen to people like you
Led gives no heat
Not true at all. All light will end up as heat eventually no matter how it's produced. A 100w LED produces the same amount of heat as a 100w CFL, HPS or even incandescent bulb.
@@AnthonyHandcock depends on the color spectrum. Warmer leds in the lower Kelvin range will put off more heat then the same wattage in a higher Kelvin. Same is true for florescents.
@@GuitarLessonCharts False. In terms of total heat generated it's irrelevant. If you put 100watts of energy into a closed system like a grow-room it will heat the room by the same amount regardless of spectrum. In terms of directly radiated heat the colour of an LED is almost completely irrelevant unless you are talking about far IR which nobody uses anyway.
LEDs have the advantage that you don't need to put as much energy in to get a given amount of useful light but the actual savings over HID or CFL are often wildly exaggerated.
@@AnthonyHandcock Take a 3000k florescent with XX wattage and pair that with a 6500k of the same wattage. The 3000k will be warmer to the touch and would throw a substantial amount of heat more so then the 6500k version. Also factor in lux and light spectrum in general. A same watt bulb, same type in a different kelvin/different light spectrum will throw off heat and yes you do need to factor in values outside of the par range because bulbs can produce light outside of that range which can range to different heat levels.
£370 for a fucking cob light wtf?
PAR doesn't mean shit.