Shabbat Shalom, Kevin. I pray you and the family are blessed and well, dear brother. Thank you for your recent informative uploads. I'm playing catch-up. The Trinity/Preincarnate teachings are both excellent and much appreciated. Very early in my walk, I was asked to leave a 'church' due to my Biblical understanding of the Most High and my reluctance to put YHWH in a man-made theological Trinity box. I was very happy within myself to humbly say the Most High in my Bible is beyond my comprehension. As I have grown in my walk, so has my understanding of the Most High. However, there is still no box large enough to put my glorious and majestic Saviour in. Stay safe and well, Kevin. Sabbath blessings to you and all the family. Maranatha. David (UK)
A thought provoking verse is found in Jude, which, if true, revolutionises our Christology and understanding of God. The translation is apparently not found in every manuscript but it is found in some of the most important and oldest. Jude 1:5 (NET) “Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.”
"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" John 14:9 KJV
Genesis 19v24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah-from the Lord out of the heavens. This is a very interesting verse.The Lord is so awesome and I love Him the older I get the more I appreciate His Handy work
Please can you explain to me what you think the Bible means by ‘The Word’? The Word was WITH God and the Word WAS God, why is it phrased as the Word being separate from God as well as being God. I realise that this is my own failure of understanding but I find it confusing and can’t work it out.
Genesis 32:30: "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." John 1:18: "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." Daniel 3:25: "He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God." Revelation 1:13: "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle." Genesis 18:2: "And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground." John 8:56: "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad."
I think Genesis 18 and exodus 3 is a great example of the complexity within God's unity. Did you ever hear of Dr Benjamin Sommer? He has an interesting book entitled, "the bodies of God and the world of ancient Israel" I'd love to know your take on it.
Did not the ancient Israelites in the scriptures believe in a two powers aspect of God Eloheinu and yet, still understand Him to be Echad? What do we do with 1 Samuel 3:10 when Adonai came and "stood" before Samuel..."? Does a "word" come and stand before someone... or is it a real "being" that does? I think this is a splitting of hairs so to speak with regard to the "personhood" of Jesus... the unique and only Son of God... especially when God Himself is spoken of as having "hands, a face, etc... though He has never been seen by anyone. True the incarnation is a fantastically unique and distinct aspect of the work of God our Father to bring salvation to all who trust in the Son... I would never argue that. Maybe the honest question is... can God do as He wills for His glory and His purposes or not?
Thank you!! No, we do NOT need to stretch, bend, or manipulate the written Word of God in order to "make sense of" an already problematic and strained man-made trinitarian doctrine. Can we just be mentally content to let mysteries be what they are or Who He is?
@@galadrielsylvania4807 No, not really. Moses wanted to know God. So did David and Jacob. They persued Him, desired to get closer and closer to Him. We should do the same. And even though this channel is walking on the string between Trinitarian and Oneness theologies, it shouldn't stop us from continuing to grow our relationship with Him.
@johnpratts2856 You’re totally projecting and misrepresenting her comment. And it’s sad that I’m unable to help you view Scripture independent of manmade theologies.
@@perfectwordTV No I'm not. This channel repeats 2 Timothy 3v16, does it not? There's a difference between accepting doctrines and discussing doctrines. I'm 100% Sola Scriptura. But it's important to express the Bible with other believers so you don't end up with your own biased viewpoints. This is what I was saying to Galadriel. Along with continuing to know God.
Lds doctrine and scripture supports this idea. We believe that from Adam on down men were taught of the coming Messiah and that he appeared in spirit to many before he was born to the virgin Mary. That Jesus was Jehovah acting under the direction of God the Father who had/has a physical body. So not exactly the same, but a similar premise.
For the Daniel passage, yes I believe it was Yeshua. Angel doesn't always mean "created angel" like seraphim. Angel can also mean Messenger, like we see in Exodus 23 with Malachi 3, same Hebrew word but different in English. And yes, Yeshua is the Word. The Word is everywhere in the Hebrew Bible. One for my favorites is in Genesis 15, which connects perfectly with John 8v31-40
Thank you so much for articulating your thoughts! Lots to talk about here, but I'm especially curious for your perspective on the term "The Word". Since our manuscripts for John are written in Greek, it's been largely taken as a reference to the Greek concept of "The Logos" perpetuated by philosophers such as Heraclitus; but I'm curious-for a Jew reading this gospel as a continuation of Adonai's work in the world-how might "The Word" be understood? In English, "word" can in some instances be a substitute for "promise" ("I give you my word."). Would the same synonymity be present in Hebrew? Does reading John 1 as "In the beginning was the Promise..." enhance or detract from the intent do you think?
Thanks for the question! “Word” just means “word” in John 1. There’s nothing in the context to indicate it can or should mean something else. Blessings!
Whatever people get out of the book of John, it has to agree with what John actually purposed his gospel to show, we can read this in John 20:30-31, anything else, is not what John intended to convey.
Awesome teaching😊. Kevin, what do you think about when people say the Lord Yeshua appears to them? So many people claim he has, like showing up in their home etc. I'm not saying the Lord Yeshua can't visit people. I also have problem with people saying when they see the Lord, that He has long hair. The apostle Paul said its a shame if a man has long hair. Also what do you think about the shroud of Turin? 😊
It makes a lot of sense. The uniqueness of Yeshua HaMashiach as our Savior is actually diluted by previous incarnations. The WORD (God) was incarnated as Yeshua. The WORD can take all shapes and forms. And the WORD will come again in the form of Yeshua. Or am I wrong?
I don’t know what you mean by “the Word can take all shapes and forms.” Scripture doesn’t indicate this. The Word became flesh-became Yeshua. That is all.
Have you considered that that’s why God appeared as a man? But beside that, Scripture says what it says. You can’t disregard what it explicitly says about Jacob and Abraham just because of what God said to Moses. Both things are true, because Scripture says so.
God is Spirit, Father IS Ruak Hakodesh (why blasphemy against His Spirit is unforgivable). Christ is simply God’s physical form, His image. God the Father’s deity is is position in the Hierarchy of Heaven, He is both Alpha & Omega (the ruler & suffering servant). Christ, His physical flesh (birthed into the physical realm) is what He calls His ‘Son’ such as ‘Son of Man’ or ‘Son of David’ coming from the lineage of David. God’s deity & headship was appointed to Melchizedek, a ‘pre-incarnate’ head (like King David) as Abram gave Melchizedek an offering (tithe) - literally the spiritual priesthood of Judah before the Levites were appointed as a secondary form of priesthood (if Moses wouldn’t have divvied out his duty to God, to Aaron - Moses would have been a priest of Melchizedek). Every single judge in the book of Judges were under the priesthood of Melchizedek - the priesthood of Judah through Christ’s death on the cross, Adam was the first then Noah, etc. - “I am a man of God, Christ is God in the flesh.” - Michael Sabados
Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV): "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD." Isaiah 45:5 (KJV): "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me." Isaiah 46:9 (KJV): "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me." Malachi 2:10 (KJV): "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?" 1 Corinthians 8:6 (KJV): "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." John 6:27 (KJV): "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed." Galatians 1:1 (KJV): "Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)" Ephesians 4:6 (KJV): "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." James 1:17 (KJV): "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." John 1:1 (KJV): "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:14 (KJV): "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 10:30 (KJV): "I and my Father are one." Philippians 2:6 (KJV): "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God." John 20:28 (KJV): "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." Colossians 2:9 (KJV): "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Hebrews 1:8 (KJV): "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." 1 John 5:20 (KJV): "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." Titus 2:13 (KJV): "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." Acts 5:3-4 (KJV): "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God." 2 Corinthians 3:17 (KJV): "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 1 Corinthians 2:10-11 (KJV): "But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." Romans 8:9 (KJV): "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Romans 8:11 (KJV): "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." 1 Corinthians 3:16 (KJV): "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV): "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come." Matthew 3:16-17 (KJV): "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Matthew 28:19 (KJV): "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." John 14:16-17 (KJV): "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 15:26 (KJV): "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." 2 Corinthians 13:14 (KJV): "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." 1 Peter 1:2 (KJV): "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied." John 6:44 (KJV): "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." Ephesians 1:3-4 (KJV): "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." John 3:16-17 (KJV): "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." Hebrews 7:25 (KJV): "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." John 14:26 (KJV): "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." Romans 8:11 (KJV): "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."
Man's wisdom is foolishness to God. Jesus is the begotten Son, he is the express image of God. God is a spirit which no man has seen. Jesus said," if you have seen me you have seen the Father". He is God manifested in flesh.
No, Jesus is never called God in N.T but as kyrios, which means "Sir". John 1: 18 there some verses says that Jesus is also God is a later adding. The word was God is to be ment that Godly was the word. Not that the word is God. Jesus did had a divine nature, but he was not God. God for the Jews was and is always the Father. For Christian. the Father is not the Son and the son is not the Father.
@folkeholtz6351 You can ignore the plain sense of the text to support your beliefs all you want, it doesn’t change what it says. Yeshua is God in the flesh. Here is our video about the Deity of Yeshua: th-cam.com/video/BkVAW3wPHCA/w-d-xo.html
@@folkeholtz6351 . "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 KJV "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;" 1 John 1:1 KJV
@@folkeholtz6351 . "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 KJV
I am not a fan of the word "incarnate." It ilicits the idea of an avatar in which a deity takes over a host who is but a drone under control of the possesor. It is akin to the shiva type deities. Incarnation doesn't accuratly portray the Dabar, Memra, or Logos of YHWH, the expression of the Spiritual into the Literal, which became (ginomai) flesh and dwelt among us.
Correct me if I'm wrong. It sounds to me your suggesting some form of modalism. You don't seem to speak of any kind of separation of persons. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Just "God" or the "Word" Please explain.
I am not suggesting modalism. I am also not making separation of persons like the Trinity suggests. I’m just using biblical terminology only. Here’s my Trinity teaching: th-cam.com/video/0IxmpiexG1g/w-d-xo.html
This is just a circular argument. Jesus is God. Yes!! The speaker clearly states that. If he is and the Holy Spirit is and God the father is. Then what’s the argument they are all God and can take any form they choose at any time. They are all God. Yes the trinity is true.
I like your teaching and therefore will subscribe. Now, forgive me because I love to correct and question others doctrine. The term "angel" as reference concerning the men in the furnace. Some say, }Michael Heisler for one", that the word angle has different meanings that must be discerned when the word is used. One of those meanings is angel stands for the appearance of the Lord in some kind of bodily form. So, if it says "the angel of the Lord" it doesn't necessarily mean someone different from the Lord. But rather the Lord in the appearance of a physical body.(remember, all things are possible with God). But not flesh and blood. P.S. I'd call the Abraham, Adonai encounter just a language glitch when Adonai says "I will go down to Sodom" What He is saying is, " I will send my trusted servants and see what is going on down in Sodom." Heb. 11:1 "Now faith is the evidence of things hoped for and the substance of things not seen." So was Abraham hallucinating, or having a vision of the three angels? Heisler's teaching video: th-cam.com/video/XvuRBTLKKx0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! But it is irrelevant to the point whether the “angel” with the men in the furnace was just an angel or the “angel of the Lord.” It’s still not a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus. But besides that, there’s not enough in the context of the passage to determine anything about this particular angel.
@@perfectwordTV The fact that your other references call the angel "Adonai" is proof positive that it was Jesus in His heavenly body. The same body He had after He ascended and then came back to talk to the disciples. First before He ascended, He told Mary not to touch Him because He hadn't ascended to the Father yet, but go tell the disciples I am risen. Later after ascending and coming back in His heavenly body, He allowed Judas to put his hand into His wound to prove it was He.
Not one word of Scripture supports your assertion that calling an angel “Adonai” proves that that’s Jesus, either pre-incarnate, or in a heavenly body, or in any form. On the contrary, the angel being referred to as Adonai is one of the biblical facts that makes trinitarian doctrine untenable. You’re forcing the angel into a trinitarian box. (You also have some pretty serious factual errors in this comment, BTW.)
Interesting video. But I’m left with the question of if the idea of a preincarnate Yeshua takes away from the uniqueness of eternal God becoming flesh, why does the idea of God appearing as a man in the Old Testament not do the same thing - take away that uniqueness? And Yeshua is God, so why assume that He (the Word) wasn’t the *God* who appeared in the OT? I’m not saying we have to believe He absolutely was because the Bible doesn’t specify, it simply says “God”, but why couldn’t it have been any member of the Godhead? Not trying to debate, just trying to make sense of what is to me an unusual teaching.
Thanks for the questions! To the first one, theophanies are not incarnations. The Word becoming flesh was unique. Appearances of God as a man before Jesus’ incarnation is not the same thing as appearances of “Jesus” before Jesus’ incarnation. To your second question, I recommend you watch the previous episode on the Trinity: th-cam.com/video/0IxmpiexG1g/w-d-xo.html Blessings!
@@perfectwordTV Thanks for your reply! I’ll be honest - I’m not sure you made it any clearer for me with your first answer, and I actually did watch the other video when it released. So I’m still confused but trying! 😉😅
@@perfectwordTV I don’t think of it as a box. My synagogue refers to it as the Unity of God, and that there is a triune-ness to that Unity, and that God can appear how and when He chooses, and I’m good with that. 😊
@@amyk87 That's the way I see it too. Even though Trinity is short for Tri-unity, it definitely stands different from Triune. Probably because of the difference between Greco-Roman thought and Jewish thought.
Mohammed is the man as messiah(?) ~ Moslem said. Qoran send to change everything replace the tanakh and gospel coz has been changed . How do you think about that statement?
That statement is false. The Qoran is not the word of God. Mohammed was not the Messiah. Yeshua is the Messiah, and only the Bible is the written word of God.
Joshua 5 the commander of Adonai"s host, received worship from Joshua. The Word is the Express Image of the invisible God. Created the Universe, and is the Chief Messenger and is the Son of God, called God"s Creative Original in Rev 3:14. This is not trinitarianism.
Yes, He did. I find your arguments mostly just semantics. I can't help but feel you're just trying to justify those who reject the Trinity. Never the less the Gospel is preached. Philp. 1:8
I believe Adonai is the One true God. Yeshua is the Messiah and the Ruach Hakodesh is Adonai God. “Praised be Adonai, Father of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, who in the Messiah has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in heaven. In the Messiah he chose us in love before the creation of the universe to be holy and without defect in his presence.” Ephesians (Eph) 1:3-4 CJB “And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.” Yochanan (Jhn) 17:3 CJB
@@perfectwordTV also when you read the word bodily, it is Strong's Definitions: πλήρωμα plḗrōma, play'-ro-mah; from G4137; repletion or completion, i.e. (subjectively) what fills (as contents, supplement, copiousness, multitude), or (objectively) what is filled (as container, performance, period. This means that Yeshua completes the Godhead. He completes what God is because he is the Image of the invisible God. Colossians 1:15.
Yeshua is not the Father, but He is also not God “in a sense” or “as a title.” That’s not biblical. To believe that you have to reject everything Scripture says about His deity, chief among these being Colossians 2. th-cam.com/video/BkVAW3wPHCA/w-d-xo.html
@tylerchurch6945 That's not the Greek for "bodily." That's the Greek for "fullness." Strong's definition (since you like Strong's) for "bodily" is: G4985 σωματικῶς sōmatikōs, so-mat-ee-koce'; adverb from G4984; corporeally or physically:-bodily. This means that the "completion" and "copiousness" of "what is filled" is Yeshua's body-filled with the Deity.
Is Apostol Paul wrong in 1. Corinthians 10.? 1Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3all ate the same spiritual food, 4and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. 6Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9nor let us [a]tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11Now [b]all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our [c]admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.❤❤❤
The word "angel" is ambiguous. Sometimes angel means a spiritual creature of God. Sometimes Angel means God. Sometimes it just means a messenger or even a bishop of a church. I hope this isn't confusing.
There is no such thing as a (catholic) trinity. It is written, "God is ONE" and "God is Spirit". Therefore Jesus - The WORD - IS that Spirit IN human flesh which makes only TWO, not three. "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God." "The Word BECAME FLESH and dwelled among us." If you are claiming a "pre-incarnate" Jesus, then that makes more than THREE. Your "third" member of the "trinity" is the SON, so Who/What is the Old Testament HUMAN of whom you speak?
Although the Trinity doctrine has been the basic belief and that Jesus has two natures, nowhere in the Bible we are able to verify this. It is basically an oxymoron to say that Jesus has two natures. What is he a human or not? this is a basic question that the Bible should give us an answer. Luke 1:26-35 surely without a doubt tells us that Jesus is a human, conceived by the Almighty in Mary. Has any of those who say Jesus has two natures looked at what it means for a woman to be pregnant? If Jesus is a son of Mary, then he had to have been made by one of Mary's eggs. Since Joseph did not have sexual relations with her until after Jesus was born, we can understand that the Almighty created the male sexual cell content in Mary so that Mary's egg would be fertilized becoming pregnant. Jesus was created by the Almighty and that is why Luke 1:35 says, Jesus is called the son of the Highest. So, if Jesus was in Mary, a zygote, just like any human started his or her existence, where is his second nature or his divinity? We know we receive a spirit just as Adam received the breath of life, but this spirit is not a person as we can tell in Job 32:8, it is something that comes from the Almighty and gives us our identity, our self-awareness, etc. So where is Jesus's second nature? nowhere to be found. Those who think that Jesus existed as God, and somehow he became human, should ask themselves this question: if a human is physical, how a supposed spiritual being became a physical component of conception i.e. DNA? Jesus said to the Samaritan woman in John 4:24, "God is Spirit", so those who claim that Jesus is God have to deal with what happened to Mary when she became pregnant. In truth, Jesus was completely human. He received the Spirit of the Father at his baptism which enabled the Father to show himself in Jesus by the miracles and words he spoke. It is not that Jesus became the Father or was God but that he received the fullness of the Father by the spiritual union of the Father and himself. Jesus said it in John 14:10 "10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. "
The Bible “verifies” this with its two sets of statements: one set saying He is fully human, and one set saying He is fully God. Here’s our videos on that. th-cam.com/play/PLFs9MmpEQopGi_lJBHjCEpW7sYfGuZK3T.html&si=shBPOlkR43evTEmO
Have you never considered that YHVH could have put an embrio inside Mary? He didn't have to use one of her eggs. She could have been just a sarogate for Yeshua. We have very purposefully not been given all the information to keep it a mystery. It's ok to not need to logically figure it out but to just trust the parts He has given us and let that be enough.
@@cherichristenson7980There was a promise in Genesis about the serpent being crush by the seed of the woman, not of the man. Yes, the Almighty could have implanted a complete fertilized egg in Mary but then Jesus would not have been a descendant of David since genetically there would be no connection to him. It is not known but it is not a mystery necessarily.
@@perfectwordTVYes, Mary’s pregnancy was normal as you said, only Jesus conception was by the power of the Most High who created the male component to fertilize Mary’s ovum.
BRUH, if You DO NOT BELIEVE in the TRINITY, than why is it that You also said that YAHSHUA is ELOHIM in the FLESH? OK, just say ELOHIM became a MAN, and that is YAHSHUA, as You said , so, WHAT is His NAME that is SEATED on the THRONE in Heaven? YAHUWAH Our ELOHIM, or YAHSHUA the MESSIAH ? SHALOM
BRUH, I say that YESHUA is God in the flesh because that’s what the BIBLE says. And quit using made-up pseudo-Hebrew names for God and the Messiah. th-cam.com/play/PLFs9MmpEQopF-YpEGFDYdMpGRa6fzS_JN.html&si=bMJ_vP5Ambwup6Ti BRUH.
@@perfectwordTV BRUH, I did WATCH Your Teachings on the Names of ELOHIM and the MESSIAH. Been following You for over a Year. But , is "GOD" and "JESUS" correct, then ? Anyway, can a PROPHET become ELOHIM, for that's what the Samaritan Woman called YAHSHUA. And YAHSHUA did NOT deny that. And as YAHSHUA also said, a PROPHET is never Welcomed in His Own Home, claiming Himself as a PROPHET. And if YAHSHUA came as a MESSIAH, can a MESSIAH become ELOHIM? If YAHSHUA is FULLY MAN, starting at His Birth, yet is ELOHIM in the FLESH , and RESURRECTED into Heaven and Seated at the RIGHT HAND of YAHUWAH ELOHIM , is there 2 ELOHIMS ? PS: Your Teachings are GOOD, but on this Topic, I NEED to Querie
Genesis 19:24 KJV - Then the ➡️LORD⬅️ rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the➡️ LORD⬅️ out of heaven; Kevin i like many of your videos, but this one is not oneof them. You say there is nothing. So for example... is verse 24 speaking of two God's? ויהוה המטיר על סדם ועל עמרה גפרית ואש מאת יהוה מן השמים It looks that way to me,
@perfectwordTV Genesis 19:24 KJV - did you not see it? It's easy to read past it. YHWH rained upon....and fire ➡️FROM⬅️ YHWH out of heaven Then the LORD (YHWH) rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire➡️ from ⬅️the LORD(YHWH)➡️ out of heaven;⬅️ Does it not say that in the Hebrew?
They call it a Christophany, I think. I've got about seven of those examples from the Old Testament. Please forgive me for not referencing all of these Christophanies now.
You really need to rethink this whole trinity idea; it just doesn't hold water. I was a trinitarian for 35 yrs. and have now come to see it as an error. The Father of our Lord Yeshua alone is the one true God. Please reexamine your position on the trinity
My position on the Trinity is that it is a man made doctrine th-cam.com/video/0IxmpiexG1g/w-d-xo.html, so I don’t know who you are addressing with this comment. But my position on Yeshua’s deity is that He is God in the flesh. th-cam.com/play/PLFs9MmpEQopGi_lJBHjCEpW7sYfGuZK3T.html&si=shBPOlkR43evTEmO So maybe you’re objecting to that.
@@perfectwordTV Sorry, for misunderstanding. So yes, I would also object to Yeshua being God in the flesh. How could God in the flesh qualify as a real human person, which the Messiah must be in order to be the pioneer of our salvation?
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Thanks for this teaching - we should not try to comprehend Adonai - we were created with limited abilities.
so true
Shabbat Shalom, Kevin. I pray you and the family are blessed and well, dear brother. Thank you for your recent informative uploads. I'm playing catch-up. The Trinity/Preincarnate teachings are both excellent and much appreciated. Very early in my walk, I was asked to leave a 'church' due to my Biblical understanding of the Most High and my reluctance to put YHWH in a man-made theological Trinity box. I was very happy within myself to humbly say the Most High in my Bible is beyond my comprehension. As I have grown in my walk, so has my understanding of the Most High. However, there is still no box large enough to put my glorious and majestic Saviour in. Stay safe and well, Kevin. Sabbath blessings to you and all the family. Maranatha. David (UK)
Shabbat shalom, David! Good to “see” you! I’m grateful for your comment. Scripture is sufficient and supreme!
@@perfectwordTV Amen and Amen, dear brother 🙏
"To go beyond what the Scriptures say" 🎯Thank you
Thank you again, for letting the Scriptures speak for themselves.
A thought provoking verse is found in Jude, which, if true, revolutionises our Christology and understanding of God.
The translation is apparently not found in every manuscript but it is found in some of the most important and oldest.
Jude 1:5 (NET)
“Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.”
"Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father." John 6:46 KJV
He is fully man, and his Father was in him fully. That is how scripture makes the most sense to me.
Thanks
"No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us." 1 John 4:12 KJV
"(A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Psalms 110:1 KJV
"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" John 14:9 KJV
"Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father." John 6:46 KJV
Genesis 19v24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah-from the Lord out of the heavens.
This is a very interesting verse.The Lord is so awesome and I love Him the older I get the more I appreciate His Handy work
Yes!
It’s so encouraging to see more & more of The Bride SEEING these in The Scriptures! 💕
This has nothing to do with Jesus.
@@folkeholtz6351 what is it about then?
I grew up mormon but now im a messinic! Salami ❤
Please can you explain to me what you think the Bible means by ‘The Word’? The Word was WITH God and the Word WAS God, why is it phrased as the Word being separate from God as well as being God. I realise that this is my own failure of understanding but I find it confusing and can’t work it out.
Genesis 32:30: "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
John 1:18: "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."
Daniel 3:25: "He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God."
Revelation 1:13: "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle."
Genesis 18:2: "And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground."
John 8:56: "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad."
Every single word of this is true, yet still does not add up to pre-incarnate appearances of Jesus.
@@perfectwordTV Genesis 19:24 - Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
I think Genesis 18 and exodus 3 is a great example of the complexity within God's unity. Did you ever hear of Dr Benjamin Sommer? He has an interesting book entitled, "the bodies of God and the world of ancient Israel" I'd love to know your take on it.
Yes! Most definitely!!! 🙌👑❤️ Over & over & OVER again!!
Did not the ancient Israelites in the scriptures believe in a two powers aspect of God Eloheinu and yet, still understand Him to be Echad? What do we do with 1 Samuel 3:10 when Adonai came and "stood" before Samuel..."? Does a "word" come and stand before someone... or is it a real "being" that does? I think this is a splitting of hairs so to speak with regard to the "personhood" of Jesus... the unique and only Son of God... especially when God Himself is spoken of as having "hands, a face, etc... though He has never been seen by anyone. True the incarnation is a fantastically unique and distinct aspect of the work of God our Father to bring salvation to all who trust in the Son... I would never argue that. Maybe the honest question is... can God do as He wills for His glory and His purposes or not?
The two powers doctrine was taught up until a few decades after the death of Jesus. It was standard doctrine.
Thank you!! No, we do NOT need to stretch, bend, or manipulate the written Word of God in order to "make sense of" an already problematic and strained man-made trinitarian doctrine. Can we just be mentally content to let mysteries be what they are or Who He is?
Amen! Couldn’t have said it better myself.
@@galadrielsylvania4807 No, not really. Moses wanted to know God. So did David and Jacob. They persued Him, desired to get closer and closer to Him. We should do the same. And even though this channel is walking on the string between Trinitarian and Oneness theologies, it shouldn't stop us from continuing to grow our relationship with Him.
@johnpratts2856 You’re totally projecting and misrepresenting her comment. And it’s sad that I’m unable to help you view Scripture independent of manmade theologies.
@@perfectwordTV No I'm not. This channel repeats 2 Timothy 3v16, does it not? There's a difference between accepting doctrines and discussing doctrines. I'm 100% Sola Scriptura. But it's important to express the Bible with other believers so you don't end up with your own biased viewpoints. This is what I was saying to Galadriel. Along with continuing to know God.
As the clouds are above the earth, so are My ways are higher than your ways.
It is written, "The secret of YHWH is with those who fear Him."
Lds doctrine and scripture supports this idea. We believe that from Adam on down men were taught of the coming Messiah and that he appeared in spirit to many before he was born to the virgin Mary. That Jesus was Jehovah acting under the direction of God the Father who had/has a physical body. So not exactly the same, but a similar premise.
That may be LDS doctrine, but this is *not* what is being taught in this video.
For the Daniel passage, yes I believe it was Yeshua. Angel doesn't always mean "created angel" like seraphim. Angel can also mean Messenger, like we see in Exodus 23 with Malachi 3, same Hebrew word but different in English.
And yes, Yeshua is the Word. The Word is everywhere in the Hebrew Bible. One for my favorites is in Genesis 15, which connects perfectly with John 8v31-40
Your belief about the Daniel passage and explanation of the angel isn’t supported either by Scripture or by common sense, as explained in the video.
@@perfectwordTV Tragic. Okay, thank you for the reply.
Hello! Praise JAH! Psalm 68;4 KJV and his name alone is the most high Psalm 83;18 KJV
Thank you so much for articulating your thoughts! Lots to talk about here, but I'm especially curious for your perspective on the term "The Word". Since our manuscripts for John are written in Greek, it's been largely taken as a reference to the Greek concept of "The Logos" perpetuated by philosophers such as Heraclitus; but I'm curious-for a Jew reading this gospel as a continuation of Adonai's work in the world-how might "The Word" be understood?
In English, "word" can in some instances be a substitute for "promise" ("I give you my word."). Would the same synonymity be present in Hebrew? Does reading John 1 as "In the beginning was the Promise..." enhance or detract from the intent do you think?
Thanks for the question! “Word” just means “word” in John 1. There’s nothing in the context to indicate it can or should mean something else. Blessings!
Whatever people get out of the book of John, it has to agree with what John actually purposed his gospel to show, we can read this in John 20:30-31, anything else, is not what John intended to convey.
You might be interested in looking into the connection of the language John used for the Logos and the Targums
@@nathann.7 And what do you think that connection is?
Awesome teaching😊. Kevin, what do you think about when people say the Lord Yeshua appears to them? So many people claim he has, like showing up in their home etc. I'm not saying the Lord Yeshua can't visit people. I also have problem with people saying when they see the Lord, that He has long hair. The apostle Paul said its a shame if a man has long hair. Also what do you think about the shroud of Turin? 😊
It makes a lot of sense. The uniqueness of Yeshua HaMashiach as our Savior is actually diluted by previous incarnations. The WORD (God) was incarnated as Yeshua. The WORD can take all shapes and forms. And the WORD will come again in the form of Yeshua. Or am I wrong?
I don’t know what you mean by “the Word can take all shapes and forms.” Scripture doesn’t indicate this. The Word became flesh-became Yeshua. That is all.
No man shall see my face and live... Both Abraham and Jacob saw God face to face, it could not be YHVH whom Abraham ate lunch and Jacob wrestled with
Have you considered that that’s why God appeared as a man? But beside that, Scripture says what it says. You can’t disregard what it explicitly says about Jacob and Abraham just because of what God said to Moses. Both things are true, because Scripture says so.
What you said makes sense-but it does blow my mind. Now I'm wondering- Who was Abraham talking to?
Jesus said, "Whoever believes into Me *does not* believe into Me but *into Him Who sent Me* ."
Sir with respect, are you born again?
God is Spirit, Father IS Ruak Hakodesh (why blasphemy against His Spirit is unforgivable). Christ is simply God’s physical form, His image. God the Father’s deity is is position in the Hierarchy of Heaven, He is both Alpha & Omega (the ruler & suffering servant). Christ, His physical flesh (birthed into the physical realm) is what He calls His ‘Son’ such as ‘Son of Man’ or ‘Son of David’ coming from the lineage of David. God’s deity & headship was appointed to Melchizedek, a ‘pre-incarnate’ head (like King David) as Abram gave Melchizedek an offering (tithe) - literally the spiritual priesthood of Judah before the Levites were appointed as a secondary form of priesthood (if Moses wouldn’t have divvied out his duty to God, to Aaron - Moses would have been a priest of Melchizedek). Every single judge in the book of Judges were under the priesthood of Melchizedek - the priesthood of Judah through Christ’s death on the cross, Adam was the first then Noah, etc.
- “I am a man of God, Christ is God in the flesh.” - Michael Sabados
Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV): "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD."
Isaiah 45:5 (KJV): "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me."
Isaiah 46:9 (KJV): "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me."
Malachi 2:10 (KJV): "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?"
1 Corinthians 8:6 (KJV): "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."
John 6:27 (KJV): "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed."
Galatians 1:1 (KJV): "Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)"
Ephesians 4:6 (KJV): "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."
James 1:17 (KJV): "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
John 1:1 (KJV): "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John 1:14 (KJV): "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
John 10:30 (KJV): "I and my Father are one."
Philippians 2:6 (KJV): "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God."
John 20:28 (KJV): "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
Colossians 2:9 (KJV): "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
Hebrews 1:8 (KJV): "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."
1 John 5:20 (KJV): "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life."
Titus 2:13 (KJV): "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ."
Acts 5:3-4 (KJV): "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God."
2 Corinthians 3:17 (KJV): "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 (KJV): "But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."
Romans 8:9 (KJV): "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
Romans 8:11 (KJV): "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."
1 Corinthians 3:16 (KJV): "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"
Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV): "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
Matthew 3:16-17 (KJV): "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Matthew 28:19 (KJV): "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
John 14:16-17 (KJV): "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
John 15:26 (KJV): "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
2 Corinthians 13:14 (KJV): "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen."
1 Peter 1:2 (KJV): "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."
John 6:44 (KJV): "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
Ephesians 1:3-4 (KJV): "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love."
John 3:16-17 (KJV): "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
Hebrews 7:25 (KJV): "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."
John 14:26 (KJV): "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
Romans 8:11 (KJV): "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."
Man's wisdom is foolishness to God. Jesus is the begotten Son, he is the express image of God. God is a spirit which no man has seen. Jesus said," if you have seen me you have seen the Father". He is God manifested in flesh.
No, Jesus is never called God in N.T but as kyrios, which means "Sir". John 1: 18 there some verses says that Jesus is also God is a later adding. The word was God is to be ment that Godly was the word. Not that the word is God. Jesus did had a divine nature, but he was not God. God for the Jews was and is always the Father. For Christian. the Father is not the Son and the son is not the Father.
@folkeholtz6351 You can ignore the plain sense of the text to support your beliefs all you want, it doesn’t change what it says. Yeshua is God in the flesh. Here is our video about the Deity of Yeshua: th-cam.com/video/BkVAW3wPHCA/w-d-xo.html
@@folkeholtz6351 .
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 KJV
"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;" 1 John 1:1 KJV
@@folkeholtz6351 .
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 KJV
I am not a fan of the word "incarnate." It ilicits the idea of an avatar in which a deity takes over a host who is but a drone under control of the possesor. It is akin to the shiva type deities. Incarnation doesn't accuratly portray the Dabar, Memra, or Logos of YHWH, the expression of the Spiritual into the Literal, which became (ginomai) flesh and dwelt among us.
Correct me if I'm wrong. It sounds to me your suggesting some form of modalism.
You don't seem to speak of any kind of separation of persons. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Just "God" or the "Word"
Please explain.
I am not suggesting modalism. I am also not making separation of persons like the Trinity suggests. I’m just using biblical terminology only. Here’s my Trinity teaching: th-cam.com/video/0IxmpiexG1g/w-d-xo.html
This is just a circular argument. Jesus is God. Yes!! The speaker clearly states that. If he is and the Holy Spirit is and God the father is. Then what’s the argument they are all God and can take any form they choose at any time. They are all God. Yes the trinity is true.
How can Jesus be in human form in the Old Testament BEFORE becoming uniquely "incarnate" (in the New)? 🙄
Hello! God Almighty Exodus 6;3 KJV
I like your teaching and therefore will subscribe. Now, forgive me because I love to correct and question others doctrine. The term "angel" as reference concerning the men in the furnace. Some say, }Michael Heisler for one", that the word angle has different meanings that must be discerned when the word is used. One of those meanings is angel stands for the appearance of the Lord in some kind of bodily form. So, if it says "the angel of the Lord" it doesn't necessarily mean someone different from the Lord. But rather the Lord in the appearance of a physical body.(remember, all things are possible with God). But not flesh and blood. P.S. I'd call the Abraham, Adonai encounter just a language glitch when Adonai says "I will go down to Sodom" What He is saying is, " I will send my trusted servants and see what is going on down in Sodom." Heb. 11:1 "Now faith is the evidence of things hoped for and the substance of things not seen." So was Abraham hallucinating, or having a vision of the three angels? Heisler's teaching video: th-cam.com/video/XvuRBTLKKx0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! But it is irrelevant to the point whether the “angel” with the men in the furnace was just an angel or the “angel of the Lord.” It’s still not a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus. But besides that, there’s not enough in the context of the passage to determine anything about this particular angel.
@@perfectwordTV The fact that your other references call the angel "Adonai" is proof positive that it was Jesus in His heavenly body. The same body He had after He ascended and then came back to talk to the disciples. First before He ascended, He told Mary not to touch Him because He hadn't ascended to the Father yet, but go tell the disciples I am risen. Later after ascending and coming back in His heavenly body, He allowed Judas to put his hand into His wound to prove it was He.
Not one word of Scripture supports your assertion that calling an angel “Adonai” proves that that’s Jesus, either pre-incarnate, or in a heavenly body, or in any form. On the contrary, the angel being referred to as Adonai is one of the biblical facts that makes trinitarian doctrine untenable. You’re forcing the angel into a trinitarian box. (You also have some pretty serious factual errors in this comment, BTW.)
Hello! Headship order 1Corinthians 11:3 KJV
Interesting video. But I’m left with the question of if the idea of a preincarnate Yeshua takes away from the uniqueness of eternal God becoming flesh, why does the idea of God appearing as a man in the Old Testament not do the same thing - take away that uniqueness?
And Yeshua is God, so why assume that He (the Word) wasn’t the *God* who appeared in the OT? I’m not saying we have to believe He absolutely was because the Bible doesn’t specify, it simply says “God”, but why couldn’t it have been any member of the Godhead?
Not trying to debate, just trying to make sense of what is to me an unusual teaching.
Thanks for the questions!
To the first one, theophanies are not incarnations. The Word becoming flesh was unique. Appearances of God as a man before Jesus’ incarnation is not the same thing as appearances of “Jesus” before Jesus’ incarnation.
To your second question, I recommend you watch the previous episode on the Trinity: th-cam.com/video/0IxmpiexG1g/w-d-xo.html
Blessings!
@@perfectwordTV Thanks for your reply!
I’ll be honest - I’m not sure you made it any clearer for me with your first answer, and I actually did watch the other video when it released. So I’m still confused but trying! 😉😅
@amyk87 It’s hard to think outside the (trinitarian) box. 😊
@@perfectwordTV I don’t think of it as a box. My synagogue refers to it as the Unity of God, and that there is a triune-ness to that Unity, and that God can appear how and when He chooses, and I’m good with that. 😊
@@amyk87 That's the way I see it too. Even though Trinity is short for Tri-unity, it definitely stands different from Triune. Probably because of the difference between Greco-Roman thought and Jewish thought.
I see reference in Hebrews 1, and 2. This to me states who he is.
Mohammed is the man as messiah(?) ~ Moslem said. Qoran send to change everything replace the tanakh and gospel coz has been changed .
How do you think about that statement?
That statement is false. The Qoran is not the word of God. Mohammed was not the Messiah. Yeshua is the Messiah, and only the Bible is the written word of God.
Joshua 5 the commander of Adonai"s host, received worship from Joshua. The Word is the Express Image of the invisible God. Created the Universe, and is the Chief Messenger and is the Son of God, called God"s Creative Original in Rev 3:14. This is not trinitarianism.
It also isn’t evidence of a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus / the Word.
Yes, He did. I find your arguments mostly just semantics. I can't help but feel you're just trying to justify those who reject the Trinity. Never the less the Gospel is preached. Philp. 1:8
I believe Adonai is the One true God. Yeshua is the Messiah and the Ruach Hakodesh is Adonai God. “Praised be Adonai, Father of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, who in the Messiah has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in heaven. In the Messiah he chose us in love before the creation of the universe to be holy and without defect in his presence.”
Ephesians (Eph) 1:3-4 CJB
“And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.”
Yochanan (Jhn) 17:3 CJB
Yeshua is also God in the flesh. “…because in Him all the fullness of the Deity dwells bodily…” Colossians 2:9, MJLT
@@perfectwordTV I believe he is God in the sense as a title not as the One true God the Father
@@perfectwordTV also when you read the word bodily, it is Strong's Definitions: πλήρωμα plḗrōma, play'-ro-mah; from G4137; repletion or completion, i.e. (subjectively) what fills (as contents, supplement, copiousness, multitude), or (objectively) what is filled (as container, performance, period.
This means that Yeshua completes the Godhead. He completes what God is because he is the Image of the invisible God. Colossians 1:15.
Yeshua is not the Father, but He is also not God “in a sense” or “as a title.” That’s not biblical. To believe that you have to reject everything Scripture says about His deity, chief among these being Colossians 2. th-cam.com/video/BkVAW3wPHCA/w-d-xo.html
@tylerchurch6945 That's not the Greek for "bodily." That's the Greek for "fullness." Strong's definition (since you like Strong's) for "bodily" is: G4985 σωματικῶς sōmatikōs, so-mat-ee-koce'; adverb from G4984; corporeally or physically:-bodily. This means that the "completion" and "copiousness" of "what is filled" is Yeshua's body-filled with the Deity.
Is Apostol Paul wrong in 1. Corinthians 10.?
1Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3all ate the same spiritual food, 4and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9nor let us [a]tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11Now [b]all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our [c]admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.❤❤❤
The word "angel" is ambiguous.
Sometimes angel means a spiritual creature of God.
Sometimes Angel means God.
Sometimes it just means a messenger or even a bishop of a church.
I hope this isn't confusing.
@@SlitchBatty I tried that hours ago. Kevin isn't biting. 😩
There is no such thing as a (catholic) trinity.
It is written, "God is ONE" and "God is Spirit".
Therefore Jesus - The WORD - IS that Spirit IN human flesh which makes only TWO, not three.
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God."
"The Word BECAME FLESH and dwelled among us."
If you are claiming a "pre-incarnate" Jesus, then that makes more than THREE. Your "third" member of the "trinity" is the SON, so Who/What is the Old Testament HUMAN of whom you speak?
Although the Trinity doctrine has been the basic belief and that Jesus has two natures, nowhere in the Bible we are able to verify this. It is basically an oxymoron to say that Jesus has two natures. What is he a human or not? this is a basic question that the Bible should give us an answer. Luke 1:26-35 surely without a doubt tells us that Jesus is a human, conceived by the Almighty in Mary. Has any of those who say Jesus has two natures looked at what it means for a woman to be pregnant? If Jesus is a son of Mary, then he had to have been made by one of Mary's eggs. Since Joseph did not have sexual relations with her until after Jesus was born, we can understand that the Almighty created the male sexual cell content in Mary so that Mary's egg would be fertilized becoming pregnant. Jesus was created by the Almighty and that is why Luke 1:35 says, Jesus is called the son of the Highest. So, if Jesus was in Mary, a zygote, just like any human started his or her existence, where is his second nature or his divinity? We know we receive a spirit just as Adam received the breath of life, but this spirit is not a person as we can tell in Job 32:8, it is something that comes from the Almighty and gives us our identity, our self-awareness, etc. So where is Jesus's second nature? nowhere to be found. Those who think that Jesus existed as God, and somehow he became human, should ask themselves this question: if a human is physical, how a supposed spiritual being became a physical component of conception i.e. DNA? Jesus said to the Samaritan woman in John 4:24, "God is Spirit", so those who claim that Jesus is God have to deal with what happened to Mary when she became pregnant. In truth, Jesus was completely human. He received the Spirit of the Father at his baptism which enabled the Father to show himself in Jesus by the miracles and words he spoke. It is not that Jesus became the Father or was God but that he received the fullness of the Father by the spiritual union of the Father and himself. Jesus said it in John 14:10 "10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. "
The Bible “verifies” this with its two sets of statements: one set saying He is fully human, and one set saying He is fully God. Here’s our videos on that. th-cam.com/play/PLFs9MmpEQopGi_lJBHjCEpW7sYfGuZK3T.html&si=shBPOlkR43evTEmO
Have you never considered that YHVH could have put an embrio inside Mary? He didn't have to use one of her eggs. She could have been just a sarogate for Yeshua.
We have very purposefully not been given all the information to keep it a mystery. It's ok to not need to logically figure it out but to just trust the parts He has given us and let that be enough.
There’s no reason to believe her pregnancy was anything but normal, other than the means of conception.
@@cherichristenson7980There was a promise in Genesis about the serpent being crush by the seed of the woman, not of the man. Yes, the Almighty could have implanted a complete fertilized egg in Mary but then Jesus would not have been a descendant of David since genetically there would be no connection to him. It is not known but it is not a mystery necessarily.
@@perfectwordTVYes, Mary’s pregnancy was normal as you said, only Jesus conception was by the power of the Most High who created the male component to fertilize Mary’s ovum.
BRUH, if You DO NOT BELIEVE in the TRINITY, than why is it that You also said that YAHSHUA is ELOHIM in the FLESH?
OK, just say ELOHIM became a MAN, and that is YAHSHUA, as You said ,
so, WHAT is His NAME that is SEATED on the THRONE in Heaven?
YAHUWAH Our ELOHIM, or YAHSHUA the MESSIAH ?
SHALOM
BRUH, I say that YESHUA is God in the flesh because that’s what the BIBLE says. And quit using made-up pseudo-Hebrew names for God and the Messiah. th-cam.com/play/PLFs9MmpEQopF-YpEGFDYdMpGRa6fzS_JN.html&si=bMJ_vP5Ambwup6Ti BRUH.
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BRUH, I did WATCH Your Teachings on the Names of ELOHIM and the MESSIAH.
Been following You for over a Year.
But , is "GOD" and "JESUS" correct, then ?
Anyway, can a PROPHET become ELOHIM, for that's what the Samaritan Woman called YAHSHUA.
And YAHSHUA did NOT deny that.
And as YAHSHUA also said, a PROPHET is never Welcomed in His Own Home, claiming Himself as a PROPHET.
And if YAHSHUA came as a MESSIAH, can a MESSIAH become ELOHIM?
If YAHSHUA is FULLY MAN, starting at His Birth, yet is ELOHIM in the FLESH , and RESURRECTED into Heaven
and Seated at the RIGHT HAND of YAHUWAH ELOHIM ,
is there 2 ELOHIMS ?
PS: Your Teachings are GOOD, but on this Topic, I NEED to Querie
Genesis 19:24 KJV - Then the ➡️LORD⬅️ rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the➡️ LORD⬅️ out of heaven;
Kevin i like many of your videos, but this one is not oneof them. You say there is nothing.
So for example... is verse 24 speaking of two God's?
ויהוה המטיר על סדם ועל עמרה גפרית ואש מאת יהוה מן השמים
It looks that way to me,
Two Gods? Say what, now? No. There are not two Gods in this verse.
@perfectwordTV Genesis 19:24 KJV -
did you not see it? It's easy to read past it. YHWH rained upon....and fire ➡️FROM⬅️ YHWH out of heaven
Then the LORD (YHWH) rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire➡️ from ⬅️the LORD(YHWH)➡️ out of heaven;⬅️
Does it not say that in the Hebrew?
I didn’t read past it. You’re reading into it. There is nothing unusual, hidden or revelatory here. No two Gods.
Hello! Jesus is the son of the highest Luke 1;32 KJV he is not God
What does it mean to be the Son, and do you think Yeshua is only Adam like you and me?
Jesus is Archangel Michael. Modern Judaism is far different than ancient Judaism.
hope you joking
They call it a Christophany, I think.
I've got about seven of those examples from the Old Testament.
Please forgive me for not referencing all of these Christophanies now.
You really need to rethink this whole trinity idea; it just doesn't hold water. I was a trinitarian for 35 yrs. and have now come to see it as an error. The Father of our Lord Yeshua alone is the one true God. Please reexamine your position on the trinity
Unlike for Roman Byzantine and modern mainstream “Christians“, for Jesus and Paul the one God is the Father alone.
My position on the Trinity is that it is a man made doctrine th-cam.com/video/0IxmpiexG1g/w-d-xo.html, so I don’t know who you are addressing with this comment.
But my position on Yeshua’s deity is that He is God in the flesh. th-cam.com/play/PLFs9MmpEQopGi_lJBHjCEpW7sYfGuZK3T.html&si=shBPOlkR43evTEmO So maybe you’re objecting to that.
I think you completely misunderstood what he is saying. Watch episodes 12, 13, 14, and 68
@@perfectwordTV Sorry, for misunderstanding. So yes, I would also object to Yeshua being God in the flesh. How could God in the flesh qualify as a real human person, which the Messiah must be in order to be the pioneer of our salvation?
Because the Scriptures demonstrate He is equally both. Again, th-cam.com/play/PLFs9MmpEQopGi_lJBHjCEpW7sYfGuZK3T.html&si=shBPOlkR43evTEmO