Yeah my favourite ship. I know I shouldn't be seal clubbing, but i almost always have the most fun in this ship. it took me until the fletcher until I got a higher damage than the Clemson in a us dd. The most Badass thing (although mostly not advisable) is rushing a gap between two BBs and launching torps from both sides getting a double strike
I have way too much experience on this ship, I play it whenever I feel I can't win at high tiers...or when you need to win games, say for the Oktyabrskaya Revolutsya mission #2
well when im frustrated enough i play my saipan with 82% winrate... tried kutuzov but teams are so fail that i lose with 200k+ dmg anyway. actually same thing happened once with saipan...but thats if the team REALLY sucks
I got a 15pt captain in my Clemson. I run concealment expert, torpedo reload, HEAP as main skills. One thing I suggest for clubbing is KEEP ORIGINAL TORPEDOS. The +.5km range increase is NOT worth the +30s reload. I can with my build I can fire each rack every 32s
Not everyone that plays this game is competitive Flamu. I like the Clemson for completely different reasons. When I was about ten years old, I built a model of this ship with my dad. Because of that this ship was an obsession of mine for a short while. I used to draw pictures of it in class. And now as an adult, I can sail her in a video game. I actually sail the Campbeltown and several other ships people call "garbage", simply because they have some bit of History behind them that I find interesting.
Wondering,VERRY VERRY WONDERING!!!! When i play a litle bit of low tiers from time to time i have everytime 10 or more sealclubbers on the enemy teams,no matter when i play and which class of ships i use,everytime 10 or more sealclubbers with 10k or 20k battles are on the enemy teams! ( at EU) i think i switch to russian server like you did!
Without torpedo upgrade you can circle in your smoke sending wave after wave of torps, becouse they will be ready every time you switch your side :) Love this ship...
in my opinion *Izyaslav is much stronger* and is sooo underated, no DD can face you, even Clemson. At short range, even beyond your (poor) torp range you just wreck enemy CLs due to their pathetic citadel armour, you have just such advantage of not having a citadel and having a smoke. You can deal with BBs also especially considering new IF HE perk upgrate its also the only ship in the game which has *SLAV* part in it so there cant be possibly stronker ship pls comment this dd, it is really worth attention
Tim Rupp The Gnevny aint that bad, compared to the Aoba, the Pepsicola, or the Emerald. Oh and stock Gnevny is also way better than stock Hatsuharu. Her guns are not as floaty as the Farraguts guns so she is so much more reliable in harrasing BBs. Her Torps are bad, but so are the Izyaslavs.
I find going back to it a bit difficult considering I am used to such fast reload on my Fletcher with BFT but I am thinking of doing so after watching this....
Maybe you should do more of these low-tier Destroyer gameplay matches, I've played a few battles in several Tier-2/3 DD's and I thought a Battleship vs Battleship close-range brawl was intense... My most recent match was on the Solomon Islands map and I won my 3rd Kraken in my Wickes, and the fight itself was epic af; three got torpedoed, one burned and the other gunned down... the Wickes is my newest favourite DD to brawl with...!
Hello; my name is Curlysan and I am a Clubson-addict. Given the number of times my DD's have been neutralized by CV's; Clubson-ing baby flat tops will never get old.
I love the Clemson. It's the ultimate sealclubber. But since I'm a natural BB captain and if I have to go low tier (3-6), I'm going with either the QE British T6 BB or the NM the American beast.
@@RDJ9942 I'm actually a very big exception in the whole WoWs community and I want my Colorado but that'll have to wait until I've grinded the British and German BBs. Cuz the only thing I finds lacking in the Colorado is the speed. It has good guns with relatively good traverse speed, good turning circle, relatively good armor for a T7 BB and very good AA (At least before the CV rework and back when I played it it still had A,B and C hull and I absolutely loved the C hull).
Poor seal babies. I feel sorry for them when experienced players rip them apart but still if they are smart enough they can learn lots of things from games like this. :)
v-170 is a shit loads better, 10 point captain 5.5km detect, 37.3 knots, Can stealth torp 7k torps, Faster reload @4 secs more than makes up for the dps difference with he. Delete clemsons for fun. Maneuverability is ridiculous on this ship.
i would just aim at superstructure with demo expert...u can dmg it and have great fire chances with so many guns, and u dont need to use that 4 skillpoint skill
Thing is, with the exception of the Queen Eliz, it's fine shooting HE most of the time, considering the shorter fuse times. Queen Eliz has massive guns for her tier, though, and can wreck things even if she's bottom tier firing AP. KGV on the other hand, best only shoots AP at cruisers. Monarch... well, to be honest, if one doesn't know what to shoot at what at tier 8, one has a problem.
why did the game end? their was still one enemy ship left.....11 mins on the clock.... and you only had ~700 points if you reduce the enemy team to 0....do you win now?
I can make couple word commentary of the IJN DDs: The IJN torpedo boat DD line still has worse torpedoes (when talking how effective they are) than the gun boats of other nations. LUL
At about 0:38 Flamu says he has a 3 or 4 point captain. He says he is only using Preventive Maintenance and Last Stand at 0:52. This is completely untrue! His HP are 12300, which means he is using Survivability Expert for the 1400 hp boost above the B hull normal of 10900 HP. Survivability Expert is a 3 point skill, so Flamu is VERY, VERY loose with the truth in this review. Now we see that he has, at a minimum, a 6 point captain!!! Shame on u Flamu! Shame on you Shamu!!! Flamu does not like the Clemson or people who play the Clemson! He says people like to "pad their stats" and "pretend they are good at the game". What a jerk he can be! At 2:15 he shoots low at a V-170 and claims that "dispersion trolls me". No, you shot low, Shamu! Fortunately in this game, he is playing two BB dummies who approach his smoke screen broadside and get torped repeatedly and sunk. Duuhhhh!!!! He claims that there are practically no counters for the Clemson, but with the new tier 5 destroyers, cruisers with torps, radar and the absolutely horrible CV rework, this review is completely outdated. Later on he is very lucky to not get hit much by a salvo by the Koenig, but he ignores that and gloats about his score. He approaches 2 CVs who are super potatoes and sinks them. I wish that I got that many idiots to play against Shamu! When I first stared out, I admired you more than I do today! I see lots of your reviews where NOBODY shoots at you somehow and I wonder..... Back in August 2019, I got krakens 3 days in a row playing the Clemson.
Clemson is low-tier, and Conq is max-tier. People will move past Clemson fairly quickly, like he said in the video he only had to play four games to unlock Nicholas. With that leveling speed people can reach tiers where they will never see a Clemson again. On the other side, Conqueror is at tier 10, where it will never be uptiered and generally have plenty of lower tier targets as people grind their way up. That critical difference, the fact that you can't get a higher tier ship to club back with, is the reason the Conq needs a nerf. That's the reason no-one complains about broken tier 1 and 2 matchmaking, but Khab and Conq and Moskva are widely regarded as too strong pls nerf.
Matthew I wouldn't say the Moskwa is too strong, it has good guns and is very tanky, but has the second worst DpM, no torpedos and has bad agility and stealth
And yet the data that has just come out with the announcement of the nerf shows that the extra damage the Conqueror does is not matched by an increase in win rate, and perhaps can mainly be explained by the fact that she survives longer which enables her to do more damage (disproportionately against other BBs). I know that I have found exactly that when playing my Conqueror. I farm lots of damage against enemy BBs, but that doesn't translate to higher win rate, in fact it's on the low side. Trust me, there is nothing like the feeling of getting 200K damage and losing. Of course, we can't talk about the Khab, because Russian, but her stats are far more OP than the Conqueror (even after her "nerf"). I will be interested to see how the nerf affects my results; it may lower my damage, but I have a feeling that it won't make a dramatic difference.
on the EU server the average winrate is higher, the other by pretty much about 50% and the Conqueror 52.5%, the ship is too overpowered really, and you can play her for winning, but this means also not farming damage but helping you allies (mostly DDs and cruisers) at the front
Oh Jesus! More whimpering about Orion? It's not that big a deal. And it does have weaknesses; the turrets turn like molasses, it might be hard to citadel but it soaks up damage like crazy, it's quite slow, using that ""OP"" HE means you never have AP ready to fire which costs you opportunities. And if they nerf it, that just means Wyoming will go back to being the king of T4 BBs. Yes, Conqueror is broken. I'm pretty sure they will nerf it before I get mine --> just finishing Monarch now. Once they do....people will continue to bitch...... Where is all this angst over Nikoli, or Belfast, or Kutuzov, or Yamato, or Khaba........etc etc I've only been playing 11 months, but was this game ever actually balanced?? It has never been close during my time. The only bitching I hear about carriers is if they are weak or that they don't get played enough.......Yet they should not even be in this game at all. How many game mechanics should be about; I can shoot you, but you can't shoot me back??? Smoke, stealth firing from cover, Carriers, DDs that are too fast to hit at range with guns that light BBs up like a Roman candle, DDs that can make torpedo soup so thick it's almost impossible to dodge, am I forgetting any.....? I feel like there's more..... How about some advice for players like stop talking about ""win rate""?? That only exists for extremely good or extremely bad players. Or stop bitching about ""kill stealing""? How idiotic is that concept? Or don't buy high tier premiums when you haven't learned the game?? Nah.....forget all that....let's talk about how awful it is that BB AP can actually damage DDs......that is an OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or how about the awfulness of effective HE.....killing the genius play of angling so AP does virtually no damage........I mean c'mon...we need some reward for that kind of god level tactics...... [except Yamato which full pens everything from every angle......perfect balance......and thank god they designed that ship to sit still bow on.......]
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I remember that moment I found Clemson gun doubled when upgrading turret
just. before I researched Nicholas...
CHC_WB for me...i believe in the rating
Me : "Meh,worthless"
That until i can have double the shot xD
After this video was released, thousands of Clemsons were suddenly seen, bearing clubs and looking for seals.
V-25 is the torp seal clubber.
G-101 is even more funny, with its nice AP-Shells AND Torps :)
You mean Derzki?
v-25 its a matrix agent, you just dodge shells at the speed of ligth
U can just troll every destroyer upto 5class in Clemson
Yeah my favourite ship. I know I shouldn't be seal clubbing, but i almost always have the most fun in this ship. it took me until the fletcher until I got a higher damage than the Clemson in a us dd. The most Badass thing (although mostly not advisable) is rushing a gap between two BBs and launching torps from both sides getting a double strike
I have way too much experience on this ship, I play it whenever I feel I can't win at high tiers...or when you need to win games, say for the Oktyabrskaya Revolutsya mission #2
well when im frustrated enough i play my saipan with 82% winrate...
tried kutuzov but teams are so fail that i lose with 200k+ dmg anyway.
actually same thing happened once with saipan...but thats if the team REALLY sucks
The term sealclubber cracks me up every time.
I got a 15pt captain in my Clemson. I run concealment expert, torpedo reload, HEAP as main skills. One thing I suggest for clubbing is KEEP ORIGINAL TORPEDOS. The +.5km range increase is NOT worth the +30s reload. I can with my build I can fire each rack every 32s
Not everyone that plays this game is competitive Flamu. I like the Clemson for completely different reasons. When I was about ten years old, I built a model of this ship with my dad. Because of that this ship was an obsession of mine for a short while. I used to draw pictures of it in class. And now as an adult, I can sail her in a video game. I actually sail the Campbeltown and several other ships people call "garbage", simply because they have some bit of History behind them that I find interesting.
Wondering,VERRY VERRY WONDERING!!!!
When i play a litle bit of low tiers from time to time i have everytime 10 or more sealclubbers on the enemy teams,no matter when i play and which class of ships i use,everytime 10 or more sealclubbers with 10k or 20k battles are on the enemy teams! ( at EU)
i think i switch to russian server like you did!
Without torpedo upgrade you can circle in your smoke sending wave after wave of torps, becouse they will be ready every time you switch your side :) Love this ship...
in my opinion *Izyaslav is much stronger* and is sooo underated, no DD can face you, even Clemson. At short range, even beyond your (poor) torp range you just wreck enemy CLs due to their pathetic citadel armour, you have just such advantage of not having a citadel and having a smoke. You can deal with BBs also especially considering new IF HE perk upgrate
its also the only ship in the game which has *SLAV* part in it so there cant be possibly stronker ship
pls comment this dd, it is really worth attention
Izya has tremendously afwul guns.
also you can survive 2 torps in this ship and still live XD
why is that so? fire rate is good, acc is not awful at all
Cypekjam thats true mate ! I loved the the isjaslav but im stuck at thr gnevny (badest ship i ever saw)
Tim Rupp The Gnevny aint that bad, compared to the Aoba, the Pepsicola, or the Emerald. Oh and stock Gnevny is also way better than stock Hatsuharu. Her guns are not as floaty as the Farraguts guns so she is so much more reliable in harrasing BBs. Her Torps are bad, but so are the Izyaslavs.
I find going back to it a bit difficult considering I am used to such fast reload on my Fletcher with BFT but I am thinking of doing so after watching this....
Maybe you should do more of these low-tier Destroyer gameplay matches, I've played a few battles in several Tier-2/3 DD's and I thought a Battleship vs Battleship close-range brawl was intense...
My most recent match was on the Solomon Islands map and I won my 3rd Kraken in my Wickes, and the fight itself was epic af; three got torpedoed, one burned and the other gunned down... the Wickes is my newest favourite DD to brawl with...!
Citadelling the Bogue with HE multiple times with peashooter guns, woooow
Hello; my name is Curlysan and I am a Clubson-addict. Given the number of times my DD's have been neutralized by CV's; Clubson-ing baby flat tops will never get old.
I one time held area C against 5 ships, managed to sink 4 of them, then died. I held that point for 7 minutes at least. And we did win.
ahh the clemson. the one dd that almost made me abandon the BB line.
That was violent.
i noticed that it got way more powerful than it used to be
back when i did american dd play
now im gonna purchsde that and my new mahan
I love the Clemson. It's the ultimate sealclubber. But since I'm a natural BB captain and if I have to go low tier (3-6), I'm going with either the QE British T6 BB or the NM the American beast.
I actually bought back my old New Mexican Shotgun for credit farming. It's a fun ship.
@@RDJ9942 I'm actually a very big exception in the whole WoWs community and I want my Colorado but that'll have to wait until I've grinded the British and German BBs. Cuz the only thing I finds lacking in the Colorado is the speed. It has good guns with relatively good traverse speed, good turning circle, relatively good armor for a T7 BB and very good AA (At least before the CV rework and back when I played it it still had A,B and C hull and I absolutely loved the C hull).
Poor seal babies. I feel sorry for them when experienced players rip them apart but still if they are smart enough they can learn lots of things from games like this. :)
Clemson is so fucking fun.
Yūbari is my seal clubbing ship
I love my little money sealclubber :)
How can i disable the black Part in Zoommode? I cant find it in options. Whats the Name of that Option?
finally you give some credit to the clemmy ;)
I use Clemson for raising my spirit after getting -50k credits on Yamato.
My Clemson had RPF... yes I feel a bit dirty.. but just a tiny bit :P
Derpzki is the true seal clubber. Basically T3 Kitakami with extra vodka fueling and russian bias.
It would be cool if WG made an ability to see reload time for other ships.
too easy.
Wisdom Ekwueme why dumb it down more when you can learn the other ships instead?
I guess it would be pretty silly looking back at it, but in reality it wouldn't be far fetched for enemies reload time to be calculated.
v-170 is a shit loads better, 10 point captain 5.5km detect, 37.3 knots, Can stealth torp 7k torps, Faster reload @4 secs more than makes up for the dps difference with he. Delete clemsons for fun. Maneuverability is ridiculous on this ship.
Oh, it's the one that can launch torps ahead, right? I find the German DD line pretty enjoyable even though I'm a BB player.
My eyes, i need to wash them.
Flamu...are you using dynamic or static crosshairs?
Good video ! greatings from Germany
Wit the change to IFHE is that something to take on this ship?
i would just aim at superstructure with demo expert...u can dmg it and have great fire chances with so many guns, and u dont need to use that 4 skillpoint skill
Since many are climbing RN bbs, can you cover some mid tier ships from 5-8?
RN BB guide T3 to T10: load HE, shoot at anything, stop shooting and heal if you get low
not every rn bb should shoot he all the time. I also want to know which ships are difficult to play along the line
none of them are hard to play. they are all noob friendly faceroll ships
Thing is, with the exception of the Queen Eliz, it's fine shooting HE most of the time, considering the shorter fuse times. Queen Eliz has massive guns for her tier, though, and can wreck things even if she's bottom tier firing AP. KGV on the other hand, best only shoots AP at cruisers. Monarch... well, to be honest, if one doesn't know what to shoot at what at tier 8, one has a problem.
So your sealclubbing potatoes?
he leveled it to the nicholas, as he said
It was meant as a joke...
you are
Sealclubbing? No, in this case it would be mashing.
King of potatoes makes mash potato ...
Kuma best DD
Like the khaba but switched and lower tier
How many reports you got from this game? LOL well played
6:30 only 2 hp left
why did the game end?
their was still one enemy ship left.....11 mins on the clock.... and you only had ~700 points
if you reduce the enemy team to 0....do you win now?
Yes. When either team's points goes down to 0, that team lose the game.
Can we get some IJN DD love?
I can make couple word commentary of the IJN DDs: The IJN torpedo boat DD line still has worse torpedoes (when talking how effective they are) than the gun boats of other nations. LUL
At about 0:38 Flamu says he has a 3 or 4 point captain. He says he is only using Preventive Maintenance and Last Stand at 0:52.
This is completely untrue! His HP are 12300, which means he is using Survivability Expert for the 1400 hp boost above the B hull normal of 10900 HP. Survivability Expert is a 3 point skill, so Flamu is VERY, VERY loose with the truth in this review. Now we see that he has, at a minimum, a 6 point captain!!! Shame on u Flamu! Shame on you Shamu!!!
Flamu does not like the Clemson or people who play the Clemson! He says people like to "pad their stats" and "pretend they are good at the game". What a jerk he can be! At 2:15 he shoots low at a V-170 and claims that "dispersion trolls me". No, you shot low, Shamu!
Fortunately in this game, he is playing two BB dummies who approach his smoke screen broadside and get torped repeatedly and sunk. Duuhhhh!!!! He claims that there are practically no counters for the Clemson, but with the new tier 5 destroyers, cruisers with torps, radar and the absolutely horrible CV rework, this review is completely outdated.
Later on he is very lucky to not get hit much by a salvo by the Koenig, but he ignores that and gloats about his score. He approaches 2 CVs who are super potatoes and sinks them. I wish that I got that many idiots to play against Shamu! When I first stared out, I admired you more than I do today! I see lots of your reviews where NOBODY shoots at you somehow and I wonder.....
Back in August 2019, I got krakens 3 days in a row playing the Clemson.
i find the izyaslav just as good
Well i did 108 k dmg in campeltown at tier 3
My best is 9 kills & 156k damage with the Clubson
Killing 2 CVs is about as sweet a game as you can have though
In french that is "un phoque' lol
Islands counter the British BBs :^)
Well....tier IV will be fucked for a few weeks....
nerf flamu
a yubari can counter this easily.
yubari is dreadful, the clem could hammer it
Nice, i feel dirty now. 1 more notch in the decision not to play this game...
Shame..... shame......shame....
How come you're not yelling for this to be nerfed, like the Conqueror?
Clemson is low-tier, and Conq is max-tier. People will move past Clemson fairly quickly, like he said in the video he only had to play four games to unlock Nicholas. With that leveling speed people can reach tiers where they will never see a Clemson again. On the other side, Conqueror is at tier 10, where it will never be uptiered and generally have plenty of lower tier targets as people grind their way up. That critical difference, the fact that you can't get a higher tier ship to club back with, is the reason the Conq needs a nerf. That's the reason no-one complains about broken tier 1 and 2 matchmaking, but Khab and Conq and Moskva are widely regarded as too strong pls nerf.
cause its t4 and no one cares...
Matthew I wouldn't say the Moskwa is too strong, it has good guns and is very tanky, but has the second worst DpM, no torpedos and has bad agility and stealth
And yet the data that has just come out with the announcement of the nerf shows that the extra damage the Conqueror does is not matched by an increase in win rate, and perhaps can mainly be explained by the fact that she survives longer which enables her to do more damage (disproportionately against other BBs). I know that I have found exactly that when playing my Conqueror. I farm lots of damage against enemy BBs, but that doesn't translate to higher win rate, in fact it's on the low side. Trust me, there is nothing like the feeling of getting 200K damage and losing. Of course, we can't talk about the Khab, because Russian, but her stats are far more OP than the Conqueror (even after her "nerf"). I will be interested to see how the nerf affects my results; it may lower my damage, but I have a feeling that it won't make a dramatic difference.
on the EU server the average winrate is higher, the other by pretty much about 50% and the Conqueror 52.5%, the ship is too overpowered really, and you can play her for winning, but this means also not farming damage but helping you allies (mostly DDs and cruisers) at the front
my record with the clemson was 17 torp hits in 1 game. just a silly ship.
lol i just had that in my tachibana :P
Yeah, sure, the clewmson is the "monster" in this game...
doesn't works as well in SEA server, because RPF in T4. LOLO hahahahahaah. those ppl try too hard
poi
poi
Hosho isn't slow....
Oh Jesus! More whimpering about Orion? It's not that big a deal. And it does have weaknesses; the turrets turn like molasses, it might be hard to citadel but it soaks up damage like crazy, it's quite slow, using that ""OP"" HE means you never have AP ready to fire which costs you opportunities. And if they nerf it, that just means Wyoming will go back to being the king of T4 BBs.
Yes, Conqueror is broken. I'm pretty sure they will nerf it before I get mine --> just finishing Monarch now.
Once they do....people will continue to bitch......
Where is all this angst over Nikoli, or Belfast, or Kutuzov, or Yamato, or Khaba........etc etc
I've only been playing 11 months, but was this game ever actually balanced?? It has never been close during my time.
The only bitching I hear about carriers is if they are weak or that they don't get played enough.......Yet they should not even be in this game at all. How many game mechanics should be about; I can shoot you, but you can't shoot me back??? Smoke, stealth firing from cover, Carriers, DDs that are too fast to hit at range with guns that light BBs up like a Roman candle, DDs that can make torpedo soup so thick it's almost impossible to dodge, am I forgetting any.....? I feel like there's more.....
How about some advice for players like stop talking about ""win rate""?? That only exists for extremely good or extremely bad players. Or stop bitching about ""kill stealing""? How idiotic is that concept? Or don't buy high tier premiums when you haven't learned the game?? Nah.....forget all that....let's talk about how awful it is that BB AP can actually damage DDs......that is an OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or how about the awfulness of effective HE.....killing the genius play of angling so AP does virtually no damage........I mean c'mon...we need some reward for that kind of god level tactics...... [except Yamato which full pens everything from every angle......perfect balance......and thank god they designed that ship to sit still bow on.......]
There is so much cringe in thist post I dont even know where to begin...
Found the BBaby.