The Future of Your Office Is in a VR Headset | WSJ
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- With a virtual-reality headset and a virtual meeting platform like Spatial, you can meet up and collaborate with your colleagues as if you were in a real office space. WSJ’s Joanna Stern transformed into a holographic avatar and got in a virtual elevator to test it out. Photo illustration: Adam Falk
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Our future grandkids will laugh at these graphics‼️
Yes this is bad th-cam.com/users/AiAngel has way better graphics 😉
True😂
th-cam.com/video/v3XcQtoja_Y/w-d-xo.html grandkids lol
This could have been a horror video game. Am scared. Please finish this game i want to play it for Halloween :)
Lol no more like us 10 years from now
I love how with this type of technology everything feels like deadpan humor.
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It's not just sad, it's dangerous.
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And evolution does not have time to adapt.
Great quote. Asimov is my favorite writer
Human isolation. Every thing that is sold with good intentions is eventually corrupted by a few rich hands. Remember people... Our pet families are trustworthy. Humans are not
Goodbye dusty office!
Welcome to the mass surveillance society where your boss will be able to monitor everything you do and even think by tracking the movement of your eyes within the headset
Offices will be for rich companies. Poor companies would have to rely on laggy vr offices
Is nice
You said it
@@julianmac This, this right here.
My offshore staff prefer to use VR headrests instead of multi monitor setups at their homes.
Wow, great. What kind of work do they do?
@@dawidwtorek software development and project management consultancy.
It's actually a huge use case for VR, it was why spending $1000 on a VR headset wasn't THAT alien to them too, getting even a three monitor setup of monitors and cables could run you 1000 alone, not including the desk requirements for such a thing.
It has some limitations though, not being able to see your keyboard is a challenge. Some of the best typists in the world are gamers that use backlit keyboards for a reason, you'll be surprised at how bad you get at finding the keyboard once you tape a box to your face. You also can't have drinks sitting on your desk very well, too likely to knock them over or miss a coaster. Finally it does make you dangerously unaware of your surroundings, which for many people it's not a problem, but for some people (with pets, kids, wives, husbands, or co-workers) it can lead to some problems.
Also, side note, it's a good idea to sit down before putting the headset on, that's not a fall you'll forget.
@@SherrifOfNottingham Very true @ limitations. I'm still learning how to touch type (which my VR headset users all can do) and need the awareness of my surroundings which disqualify me from using VR for my own productivity purposes. That said I do game using VR setups and don't need to look at my keyboard.
Until high performing VR solutions are wireless, provide awareness of physical surroundings, and don't encumber hands with controllers, I can't justify anything other than using from a fixed (sat or laying down) position. I am a fall and tea spill survivor ;-)
@@SherrifOfNottingham Actually cutting off your surroundings is big plus for VR, it helps you to focus even if your work environment isn't ideal.
Oculus quest 2 will have official 6DOF tracked keyboard in few months, it isn't a rumour, because I'm kinda of VR nerd and I have watched all FB materials about quest 2. There are also hacked support for this sort of things, but its not practical, the easiest way is to put a vive tracker on a keyboard, model it in 3D, and offset to the tracker, but your app has to support that and you have to get basestations, cables, etc. With quest 2 you could have wireless multiple monitor setup with keyboard that just works whenever you are, without any initial setup, and now the resolution is good enough for an actual work. I hate Facebook's take on privacy policy, but they sure move VR forward...
You guys should check out this official productivity video from Facebook th-cam.com/video/5_bVkbG1ZCo/w-d-xo.html
one day someone mistakenly uploads their fursona for the office.
With Lidar coming to mobile devices our future 3D avatars will be hyper accurate
Im glad you read the comments from your last oculus quest video. Remember that situation?
In my opinion VR missed a trick with this pandemic
It was the golden opportunity to take off..particularly for live events 🙌🙌🙌
It's not quite advanced enough yet
I agree
@@BrianGlaze also agreed and it's true
Oculus venue is a thing now U kno
well vr was and is still constantly growing during the pandemic
everybody gangsta until the VR dude glitches out
They finally found vrchat
And here I am trying to convince the guys at work that this is the way forward. Even willing to lend them my headset to try for themselves
I swear that shows sliders was awesome if you wait long enough everything comes true! LOL there's a whole episode dedicated to this topic
Wow that's awesome 🙌 having an actual avatar😎👍
I really don't think it's that much of "a ways off". I think 10 years advancement surpass most people's expectations. And if we can reduce traffic and need for office spaces, we'd save the stressfully unnecessary time spent sat in traffic, reduce strain on public transport, decrease pollution, free up space for more housing solutions and just generally make life easier
and make life miserable, don’t forget that
You are much better than the last guy with the quest Thank you
VRchat feels much more real in Index ))
02:11 rubbing hands 02:11
05:23 next base 05:23
06:58 Macarena 06:58
Im ready for the virtual world. 😺
At least you kept it indoors this time.
If I live in South Africa, will I be able to join someone in New Zealand via the Oculus Quest 2?
yes!!
Yes. But internet speed is going to be an issue for developing countries.
Holy shet, this is like altered carbon
I was waiting for this since long time ago, when I discover ''Second Life''... Is brilliant! Time travel and teleportation is allready here; have fun! 😎 👽
Way better journalism than last time
oof... the uncanny valley is deep with those avatars. Should really go with cartoony look.
Glasses are obtrusive. It actually gets sweaty under there .
Hi I use spatial as well I would like to know how do you record the videos or the activities you do inside just the way you are presenting here?
Problem is..
Headsets need to be accessabile for everyone if someone uses zoom. So there must be a headset developed to be pretty cheap set at like nearly $50
$300 isn’t that much for this technology. People already pay up to $1,000 for a new smartphone every year
@@ace2euce_ working people have cell phones
My mind immediately jumps to a prisoner who I think will benefit the most from this kind of technology
I am all for VR, but there will be a price to pay for this when it becomes big.
Well yes ish
Omg, the Sim City game becomes in real life
Hi Wall Street Journal, I like your content. I love watching your videos.
Why have avatars that look like you in base reality? Why not be able to become who you truly want to be, break free from the shackles of base reality and all of the woes that come along with it. I love VR because I can *Truly* express myself how and who I truly want to be and am.
In a professional setting your avatar should look like you imo
Have your tried Prospect from IrisVR?
Yes it is 😊
These numbers are so inspiring. VR Workspaces are future, keep trying iQ3Connect
Imagine having online class in VR chat
I low-key want my teachers to make that mistake.
You have a great Janet vibe going on there Joanna. ❡
However, anything that relies on Facebook or Microsoft (along with others) is currently on my "I'd rather be buried in an anthill and covered with honey" list due to how they relate to the customer. ❡
And why, whenever any media outlet is talking about virtual meeting spaces is Second Life never mentioned? The platform may be proprietary, but the viewers run on an open spec like browsers and there are alternatives available. ❡
Telegram is the same way. ❡
Oh wait. I just answered my own question. ❡
All these companies want proprietary platforms, so they can extract rent, not open standards like the web uses which would make more sense. ❡
Got it.
This is soo cool
Not far from "The Lawnmower Man"...living in the unreal reality.
scary we will run to these apps but won't face the reality of housing crisis and systematic racism
The concept behind these VR tools is well thought out, yet we feel as mentioned later on in the video that nothing can replace the interpersonal relationships you can get with colleagues by actually being in the office.
Not yet, we are still in the beginning.
But it will get signficanfly better in the near future. This program would already be incredible improved if it would utilize apples memojies (face expressions) for example
This is great because anytime you don't wanna listen to your stupid coworkers you just mute them or tell them your headset overheated and blew your house up. 😁
i tried it a few times, they mentioned it early on but didnt mention again later...tbh i always felt nauseous after using VR for a while
Everyone does at first, it takes a while to get used to
what "vr"
@@GamerSlayer5000 no... the percentage of people that have a problem with it is super low.... especially things where u move yourself within a virtual area like job simulator and u don't use smooth thumbstick locomotion... also the ipd has to be set correctly and it's best to use at least 90hz headsets
@@pumpuppthevolume no everyone has a problem at first. That's why you start off with comfortable games like beat saber and try out games like skyrim after you're used to being in VR. Everyone I've ever given my quest to has wobbled and lost their balance playing something like rec room paintball including myself
@@GamerSlayer5000 like I said locomotion is tricky.... if u r just moving in something like job simulator the chance for getting motion sickness is basically zero..... plus the quest1 is 72 hz and did u measure their ipd and set it to that
"It makes sense!" Hahahaahhaaa!
This is what I do too! U fortunately, I’m more cutting edge than my employer is and they’re not interested in allowing us to implement. I so want to work for a company brave enough to use VR. I love it!! Covid is so not an issue for being at home all the time.
Cool! Hope you get to do it soon.
“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”
― Arthur C. Clarke
True that
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--me
Now we can get closer to sword art online agenda in 2022
Insha Allah can't wait
Hahahaha
Reminds me of black mesa.
I hope they add legs to the avatar
Thats awesome, but they should have showcased how work is being done there - just saying you can do it doesn't convince me. I'm sure you can have a meeting, but how easy is it to write things down? Or you could totally discuss a project but can you access your computer in vr and collaborate?
I've done it in bigscreen to some extent. You can stream your computer screen and colaborare in real time, but only one person has access to the computer.
For sprint meetings this can be good but I highly doubt , you are able to use windows Remote Desktop
This is just a stupid gimmick. No work was being done.
@@S2Tubes it's not just a gimmick, this is surely applicable to some scenarios.
@@Johanneslol11 This was a terrible presentation. They barely showed what can actually be done. Apparently this supports screen sharing, but idk to what extent it allows you to interact with your and other peoples devices (my guess is that it doesn't allow remote control at all?).
Also, I wonder if using this with AR glasses would make it possible for you to actually work on your computer (as opposed to VR where you may be blind to your keyboard and other real world devices).
My take is that this was a terrible presentation.......
I might be trying it out just out of curiosity - its free and seems interesting enough. I'll try to remember to post my thoughts here.
@@technolus5742 I'm sure in some scenarios it could be beneficial. None of them were shown in this video.
Of course.
I'm excited for the future of this technology. I'm also scared. Some people are going to do stuff with this technology without thinking of the implications. Liberal Arts and STEM are equally important.
I’m also excited! What stuff did you have in mind as far as the implications go?
It's like Digital Twins.
Smurfs.
It’s been written.
Deliver my email.
My year keeps getting better.
God mode.
Here’s hoping real offices never come back.
The fact that you have to have a legit Facebook account to use a Quest 2 is scary. There is a reason it's banned in Germany.
Great video of the things to come. Of course this will bring in the expected security issues of imposters and proof of identity.
Thanks for the important and timely subject matter.
People still have a trouble muting and unmuting themselves in zoom meetings.
This feels like real 2020 now, the ultra dystopian.
This is utopian
VRChat is the opposite of a virtual office environment with decorum
Everybody in Spatial has a half bodied stroke face.
Do you guys remember "Demolition Man"?
AT LEAST SHE KNOWS TO USE IT INSIDE.
You'll be able to go to your job while your sick without giving it to anybody else.
Might want to note that this video is an Ad.
"real life" faces are based on genetic lottery + customization.
why do we have to carry this over, when we can use any avatars?
seems to be quite limiting.
and if you think we should all be our real selves then stop going to the hairdresser and stop wearing make up as well.
Exactly. VR is a way to become who you truly want to be, not limited by the shackles of base reality.
Engage is the best so far.
Zoom fatigue hahaha
Is this a movie Avatar? Lol
It's like we are living in a dystopia or something crazy.
This is the noob version before we have actual face tracking for expressions.
HP's newest headset has a version with mouth and eye tracking, as well as a heartrate sensor.
As much as people act like there's no point in those inputs, there's definitely a use for them.
I can't even use my Quest 2 because the "Oculus" app is not letting me sign in with the Facebook account it forced me to link it to. So my device is just a very expensive paperweight until that issue gets sorted, which will apparently take around 70 hours. This is why forcing us to use mandatory Facebook accounts just to use the device really is bad news and very insidious and worrying; I mean you can't even check out the offline Home menu or system settings until you connect your Facebook account and also pair the thing with App on your phone. What a f'n joke! I honestly hope someone brings a class-action lawsuit against Facebook for this horrible abuse of our rights to use the basic features of the product we have paid our hard-earned money for.
Who else is thinking of Avatar Demi Moore in 'Disclosure'?
Which one is me?
Harbor harbor harbor Joanna
Actually the hologram technology is way better than that but maybe they want more stock dividence before let the public jump on the ride
Is this a Pfizer Ad ? they are the only company name mentioned ?
I’ll check back in 2 years when the graphics aren’t horrid.
VRChat has more real graphics.
Joanna, I am still waiting for your Apple Watch Series 6 video
can you go toilet while attending meeting in vr?
hehe she made her avatar skinnier.
TBH spatial probably doesn't let you customize body types
It better not be the future. I have extreme motion sickness. The headsets make me dizzy and sick for hours after only using for 2 minutes.
Terrible for eyesight too
What vr headsets have you tried?
@@realSemSau The Samsung one. They made a VR headset i tried when they made the galaxy s10 or something.
@@LaFranceBonjour that makes sense then, phone vr is garbage
@@LaFranceBonjourso a phone headset or was it a real vr headset ...... try the quest 2.... real vr is much better.... and u basically can't get motion sickness if u r moving in the virtual space yourself and u don't use thumbstick smooth locomotion
Demo Ready Player One
So basically a big 7-minute commercial.
Zoom fatigue? Lol
the is not VR isn't this AR (Augmented reality) ?
movie and PC games figured out how to make motion and facial expression realistic. These robot like movements should not be acceptable.
Sorry the boss wants you back in the office due to the compation hacking your system and stealing your ideas.
I should buy some VR stocks 😁💸💸💸
Your only choices are Facebook, HP, and maybe Microsoft
@ziher123 how do you figure? Oculus/Facebook is miles ahead of everyone else
I think vr is for business because in vr its real to the degree that you invest more into it so games feel like a waste of time. I was deeply disappointed when the walking dead ended.
So will be your salary!
I'd rather suffer from some zoom fatique than wear a heavy headset 8 hours a day. :-|
This is why im eager for the panasonic vr goggles to come out. But i also think regular zoom use would be allowed in such a setting
really? this is VR gaming headset, they couldn't do a little better with the graphics?
It’s mainly due to the games / applications themselves having a small budget. There are other games with better graphics.
nope, this is still very much a long way from being pervasive. Get used to just webcam chats, because thankfully, millions of people have realised that the real office sucks, and wont be going back.
Why do they try to make useful apps when this is clearly still a science experiment? Just hash out the tech first and then worry about building apps. Cool technology, but not nearly ready yet.
This just killed VR.
No. Too much strain on the eyes, neck, and brain and do for anything more than brief spurts of fun
Right now, yes. In 10 years it will be completely comfortable for all day use.
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Vr chat