UGS parry is one of the best thing fromsoftware ever created, and they dumped it off in later series :( Nice video, never though i would get a lore content from this channel~
My take: Old Knights are basically Golems. The Brume Tower acts as a "Factory" to mass produce them. I base my theory too by the fact that these knights are super weak to Strike Damage, a trait shared clearly with the Giant Stone Knights and Stone Guardians back in Dark Souls 1. So I think this is not the first time Fromsoft does this kind of thing. Also regarding Drakekeepers, I like your take that Aldia attempted to recreate these Old Knights as Drakekeepers since they not only share similar moves but also due to the fact that Drakekeepers are stronger and faster as well. Either way, them and the Drakekeepers are my favorite enemies in DS2. I just love Massive Armored Giants. Especially when their Armor is really cool too.
Strike Damage works well against every enemy with heavy armor, but Holy Water Urns also work on the Old Knights and those only work on the Undead but not on Golems Edit: actually the wiki was wrong on that. I tested it and Holy Water Urns don't damage them so they are indeed Golems
That was my first theory about them, but i saw two problems with it 1. The way they're used in brume tower seems to be disparaging them, not celebrating them. They are shown slumped over and powerless, huge masses doing nothing but lifting a few tiny elevators. You would think the creators would want to display them proudly and showing strength and vigor, not the other way around 2. Their armor doesn't seem to match the style of anything else the iron king created. It looks to have come from a completely different culture These two reasons are why the subjugation theory is so likely. The old knights as being from another kingdom that was conquered and are now displayed in a shameful way by the victorious party Furthermore, the iron king already had hulking armored masses of about the same size, the guys wielding the smelter hammers. They're in a completely different style, and already fill about the same role
@@frazfrazfrazfraz oof I'm going to try and defend my Golem Theory. Based on what you said, that still doesn't disprove that they are not Golems. Reading from your points, at least what is proven is that they are not from Iron King's Domain, and that they are defeated and subjugated, or at least their remains are used for for disparaging functions. So what I now reconclude is that they are still Golems, except they are not from Brume Tower, they are from an ancient forgotten Civilization, so Old that their Armor started to wither and crumble. Also fun fact, I do think they are made out of Bronze because they are green. I read somewhere that Bronze turns green when they oxidize or something. Same thing with DS3's Earth Seeker Greataxe which is a green colored Bronze Greataxe.
@@frazfrazfrazfraz That's because the armor is simply being transported. If it's a golem, they will be slumped over until activated. If Brume Tower is their point of creation, they could be brought elsewhere for activation.
@@ThisIsPampkin I think they are still from Brume Tower. A golem needs magical activation. I would wager that Aldia may have had some part in that process. Armor gets built in Brume Tower, they get transported elsewhere for activation. The ones hung up in Brume Tower are probably just next on the conveyor belt to be lifted out of the forge at the bottom.
It's fairly well-known (game's been around for 10 years at this point) but most folks use rapier for counter damage so they won't actually be able to do this lol
Whenever DS3 made it clear that the main target for a dragon should be the head, I was also fighting Ancient Dragon this way. I wouldn't call the other way cheesing though, because this does not really work too well if you don't prep for it by using specific weapons. Since you can't lock on to the head and it's moving more than the feet, it's already harder to hit. And that's not even accounting that for quite a good amount of weapons, the time to hit the Ancient Dragon's head is very limited since he doesn't hold it too close to the ground. Point being, it makes a lot of sense for a lot of loadouts to go for the feet since they are on the ground and move less so they are easier to hit. If they gave you a lock on for the head, I think most would at least try.
I've always liked videos like this. Keep them coming please. I've always wondered about the possible connection between the singing in Amana and Shulva. The only conclusion I've made is that they're purpose is the same, but it's to sooth different creatures.
I feel ashamed for not noticing the Heide-IronKeep similarities! But it does make sense that the Old Iron King had control of Both Alken and Venn at the time of his rule. I liked the detail of Vendrick showing much more respect than the Iron King! I did notice the Old Knights at Brume Tower and wondered if they originated from there, but you've convinced me about Shrine of Amana. Thank you for all the work you've done with your videos! Especially the Vanilla-Scholar comparisons!
Very, very good speculation! I am very happy with this video. It even gives good tips to fight the "not dragon"! I think using the summons while fighting this way is intended. Them going for legs doesn't make them die as much if the focus is on attacks with the head towards you only.
I've been using a UGS for three NG cycles now and totally forgot about UGS parries. Also, Old Knights were always the most interesting enemy in DS2 to me. Keep the videos coming!
I'm glad you caught that the ones attached to the elevators suggest that they were subjugated, not a creation of the old iron king I would go so far as to say that he didn't just subjugate them, but defeated them in glorious fashion, or at least they were considered very powerful or maybe even impossible to defeat before he came along You wouldn't build such absurdly large statues for just any slaves. But you might do it to revel in your own accomplishment, or to mock those "great ones" you defeated. That would be my best guess, anyway It might even be that he considered defeating them to be an important moment in the construction of his kingdom, thus why they are "lifting" the elevators. Or maybe that's just symbolic of their slave labor This is a pretty interesting theory. I still don't have a complete idea of what i think about them, but this is well presented and reasonable
It makes more sense to me that Brume Tower is a giant forge, creating weapons and armor. The old knights that are hanging on the elevators could simply be hollow sets of armor on transport, similar to a conveyor belt style of construction.
@@ZeroFanfare personally, I don't see it If it's a conveyor belt type mechanism, it would have to go somewhere next, but it's FAR too big to ever leave the tower. It would have to be deconstructed then reconstructed to progress, which would completely defeat the purpose of that mechanism. It would be a pointless middle step that added work Rather, it seems like the statues were never meant to leave the tower. If they were meant to be enormous golems 50 foot tall, they should have been being constructed outside the tower, not inside. How would that mechanism even work? Where would they be connected to the elevator fully formed, before being detached to go where? The amount of work it would take to attach and detach them at such scale would far outweigh the work it would take to just move them piece by piece outside to be constructed. And it would be to make them go up/down a measly 800 feet or so, and once again to nowhere that significant. The only explanation I could see is that the tower used to go down further in the past, and there used to be an exit far below that could fit them out at such scale. But that would require the elevators to go down much more, and for the building to have gone down much more before presumably sinking into the lava Furthermore, the statues don't look to be made of the same material as the other old knights OR the other metalworks the iron King created, but rather look more like stone. They are also monumentally bigger than any of the old knights, which could suggest that there were massive old knights, but could also just suggest that the iron King was exaggerating his accomplishment/mockery by increasing the size, rubbing it in people's faces And once again, they don't match the style of the old iron King's other creations, and he already had soldiers that filled the role of the normal sized old knights, so what reason would he have to create the regular sized old knights?
Funny, I always fought the ancient dragon this way and never had problem. Dragon head is always the weak spot in dark soul series. The stupid frustrating " run to tail and smack toe tactic" spread as fast as other misinformation about this game and it's as flawed.
>Dragon head is always the weak spot in dark soul series In this case they forgot about it and you will deal the same damage to his head and toes, but it's way less boring and you can defeat him faster as he won't spend half the time flying up in the air
@@Domo3000 That's weird I always remember dealing more damage smacking him on the head instead of the toes. Maybe I was hitting with a better sweet spot?
The reason most folks end up attacking his claws is because only specific weapons can hit the Dragon's head. Most people see rapier speedruns and think that's most optimal, so they end up only having that as an upgraded weapon by the time they get there. Can't really reach the head with the rapier lol
So glad to find someone who clearly cares so much about best souls 2. I feel its also important to mention that the old knights drop cracked blue eye orbs, a covenant item to the blue sentinels located in hides tower of flame.
Shrine of Amana being a ruined kingdom is great idea considering Drangleic is already built upon multiple of old and gone kingdoms, perhaps the archdrake pilgrims ventured to it not only to escape Lindelt, but also to perhaps the kingdom that their homeland originally originated from (as in the people from there emigrated elsewhere to start their own group and in fit of irony many years later people emigrate from their group for similar reasons?)
I finally beat the ancient dragon for the first time. It was actually... Fun? Like, sure I died a couple times learning the windups, and it was looong, but it was... Not boring!
Hey! Here's something to maybe get rid of those stutters in souls games: In Nvidia settings for the game's exe, go to "threaded optimization" and turn it to off. Isn't guaranteed but for me it completely solved the problem, even with Bluetooth controllers.
I never noticed the ancient dragon was a fake, I even heard that exact line from that cat before and didn't think much of it. It feels like as in if it were something Miyazaki would do, which shows how much the team cared about the previous two games. I found fighting it really simple, just a matter of whittling down it's health for a long time, but the head focused strat seems less tedious.
In the Dragon Memory you can find the body of an actual Ancient Dragon with the Ancient Dragon Soul Aldia took dragon DNA (Petrified Dragon Bone) and injected it into a Giant in an attempt to recreate dragons. That became the Ancient Dragon we fight. In Aldia's Keep there's also Undead Abberations in cages (the monstrosities that you can find in Vanilla Sinner's Rise or also Scholar NG+) that are failed half-hollow half-dragon experiments.
@@Domo3000 Yeah, I waited out the timer in that memory in confusion without realizing I had the aged feather to get out. There was a guy who figured out how to kill himself in that memory though, found that pretty amusing.
This land was Venn first, then the OIK took part of it and founded Alken. This is all known history so the OIK couldn’t have created the Old Knights as they come from a time before that recorded history. If you read the Heide Knights armor set it says something similar “no records date far back enough to tell” which is why I do think they are linked. Something to remember is the Scorching Iron Scepter is implied to be FOUND tech based on its item description. The lord takes the “dilapidated region” but his fortunes turn with the “discovery” of the iron producing miracle. So perhaps all of Brume tower was not constructed by the OIK. The scepter, some of the forge, and the old knight suits of armor without a soul may be remnants from when this Kingdom was controlled by those who ruled Heide, and the area that became Brume Tower was their forge. It is implied this was the expat Lords from Anor Londo including Gwyneviere and Flann I think the Old Knights golems are basically their Giant Sentinels 2.0 and their armor was originally brass as well. So much time has passed that now all their brass armor and weapons have a thick layer of green patina on it and they are ready to crumble. Perhaps one of the reasons the Old Knights armor is in such bad shape and the Heide armor is not is because in vanilla the Old Knights were only in one place, Heide ruins, constantly exposed to the salty sea air. I believe the Heidi Knights were the new silver knights of this expat Lord kingdom and wielded weapons made of Anor Londo brass which is why they do lightning damage. Their weapon tech is very advanced for its age because Drangleic smiths were unable to duplicate it, the best they could was create bradden steel, an imperfect form. So I think the timeline is the expats Lords arrive and found Heide and take control of part of the land. They build a forge to produce metal wherever Brume Tower is located. Calamity strikes Heide and the majority is “subsumed by the sea” or perhaps the Lords all eventually die of old age and the kingdom collapses. At this point I think Venn expands and claims the territory, but doesn’t realize what they have as all the records are lost to the sea. Much later the “enfeebled Lord” takes a portion of the kingdom from Venn, the Huntman’s Copse to Brume Tower. Then he lucks out and finds in his new kingdom the ruins of Heide’s forge and in it its power source, the Sceptor, and he is reborn the OIK.
One thing I want to add is that the weapons don't have to be made of brass to be infused with lightning. The batwing demons had their spears infused with lightning despite those being made of bone. The Heide knights weapons look to be made of something similar to their armor, being a kind of stark white. I don't see them as brass Also, iirc it's specifically mentioned that the Heide knights have 'silver' armor that cannot be replicated, lending further credence to them being the progression of silver knights. Anor londo must have had advanced and specific metal working techniques
@@frazfrazfrazfraz or given Heide is tied in with the origins of the way of the blue and the Blue Sentinels, perhaps they are a combo successor to the silver knights and Darkmoon Knights.
i also have a theory if i can add one. i think that this iron knights are a living stone golems that were created by iron king before he met sir allone. he used nadalia as a fuel in order to create this giant warriors. but in the end nadalia went nuts and destroyed brume tower. remember her items names when you exchange her soul "outcry pyromancy" and "Chime of Screams". when he realized that he will no longer be able to create more warriors he almost went nuts but by that time he meeted sir allone and he just changed his current army to allone knights who were led and trained by sir allone. and what old iron knights forgot in heide? well iron king was a conqueror and he just sent them all to conquer this kingdom ( and also to get rid of his less effective warriors) but after a while a few things happened and iron king was no more.
I personally think they are also from Heide, after a fashion. The single one in the Shrine is not quite enough to distinguish their true origins; whilst some people remember what and where Amana is( and how it holds Rhoy's Resting Place and the path to the Undead Crypt) , no one remembers whether Heide itself was even a country. Whilst it is evident the Iron King( himself an underappreciated craftsman and blacksmith) based his keep on it to draw on it's antiquity, and may have been himself a descendant and survivor of Heide's civilisation, and may have included it's former territories in his dominion, both his Keep and Tower display invariably more advanced technology and a rather spartan take on the old Heide formula, combined with an incredibly strange obsession with bulls, as opposed to the mysterious falcon-headed god watching over the Cathedral Of Blue and the rest of the sunken remnants surrounding the Tower Of Flame. The reason the Heide Knights do not display the same decay with their own armour as the Old Knights is the specific alloy used, one seemingly of divine origin due to it's lightning resistance; in contrast, the Old Knights seem to have been wearing brass like the Sentinels of Anor Londo. I don't believe they are golems; each piece of the armor set insists on there at least once having been a,warrior who used it and the weapons associated with it. More importantly, they are not immune ti bleed. Something is in that armour; we just don't know what. Brume Tower is fascinating because what happened there ses to be far more extensive than mere subjugation. If you look from the outside, the Fume Knight arena is actually just the massive chest piece of one of them, with the broken helmet being the entrance. Given the Iron King would later apparently leave his crown here before drowning in the lava of his Keep, this place was of some importance to him. Moreover, the place is covered in ash... So much of it. It's almost like a Kiln. If one looks closely at the Iron Scepter, you'll note it has a suspicious resemblance to a coiled sword. In turn, it is said the Iron King seemed to hold the very powers of life and creation. Could there be some correlation? Could he have fought, and bled, for this scepter against the most powerful and massive of the Knights? Indeed, as horrific as it may be, even those elevators may not be completely empty suits of armour.
I figured the Old Knights Armor was forged in Brume Tower, and that the ones in Dragon Shrine are the elite guard for the King. The intro cinematic pans over Dragon Shrine while mentioning "a great king built a great kingdom." Even has all the dragons flying around it. I theorize that Nashandra's warning was to mislead the player, not inform. I do think the Ancient Dragon is real, just another of Aldia's captured pets. Ashen Mist Heart description seems to be alluding to the dragon being real, too: "Manifestation of ashen mist received from the ancient dragon. The magic of the ancient dragon allows one to delve into the memories of the withered." I'm wondering if Aldia, before being transformed into the mess it is now, was actually studying the magic powers that the Ancient Dragon once possessed. If Aldia's intent was to destroy or even harness the curse, it would make sense that having a power like delving into memories of dead creatures would be essential for his research. If he did it a lot, it could also be an explanation for why his voices are an amalgamation of so many NPC characters we meet. Ah, lore theories :)
@@asdergold1 You get a great one soul, presumably from the dead dragon in Freja’s room. Not every dragon drops a great one soul, though. At least in-game, the one in Freja’s room is the only one. Sinh doesn’t, and neither do any of the dragons in Aerie. Which indicates that not all dragons would have the soul. I know it’s a popular theory that Aldia made the dragon, but why would that be his only creation, while everything else in his keep are captures? If he made stuff, there would be evidence of failed creatures. Instead, we have a large amount of captured creatures.
@@ZeroFanfare I think he meant the Ancient Dragon Soul you get in Dragon Memories after you kill Freja and return to the boss room, while the Ancient Dragon himself doesn't drop that soul
@@sk8william798 that is the dead body of an actual Ancient Dragon where Aldia got the dragon DNA (petrified dragon bone) from that he injected into a giant in an attempt to resurrect the dragons
@@ZeroFanfare there is evidence of failed creatures. The Undead Abberations he keeps in cages (and that show up in Sinner's Rise in Vanilla and Scholar NG+) are canonically half-hollow half-dragon experiments.
I ought to bring up the fact that iron keep and heide's tower both have semi direct connections with the gods of ds1 in the iron Kings ng+ soul and the old dragonslayer
I simply think that this is just giants, but not the Dark Souls 2 giants, but those which is from Anor Londo, that guarding the City (in illusion) from invadors. Heide's Tower is actually full of references to Anor Londo: architecture, Blue Sentinels (witch is the referencing Blades of the Darkmoon covenant), Ornstein (i actually I used to theorized about it long ago, and one of my theory was about this is could be a real Ornstein, that met his teacher and followed his teachings about how riding a wiverns, and then flew into Drangleic and passed the teaching of riding on wiverns to Dragonriders, and wivern, that was added on pass to him is actually his.), Heide's Knights armor is actually reminding about Solaire (by their helmets, and it's only 2 examples in the series of helmets with that shape). There's another clue, besides their size and their location, is that their armor, when it's broken with a 5% chance cast Wrath of the Gods, witch is the spell, that Anor Londo giants can cast. So, this is doesn't explain why this is not the armor that the giants were wearing in Anor Londo, so as there's no explanation, why Dragonslayer is using dark spells, if it's really Ornstein, but i think, that it's possible to come up with some explanation to patch up the holes of this theory :)
Spitballing here, did The Old Iron King make, or at least take over the tower of flame? It would be in line with his previous history with giant towers and flame. Would that make old iron king Heide?
What DS2 refers to as a "true monarch" is what DS3 refers to as a "Lord of Cinder", discuss? Bearing in mind that someone doesn't need to actually link the fire to be counted as one (eg. Prince Lothric, who basically did what Vendrick did after being fated to link the flame). If the comparison holds, I'd love to see a lore discussion on what the ritual at the end of DS3 is meant to represent, when the Lords are returned to their thrones (represented by their heads/crowns on each throne) and their power flows into you. And is there a functional difference between that, and the ritual Vendrick performs in DS2 to combine the power of the monarch's crowns into yourself. I think there's a real lack of deepdive into DS2 lore in the context of what we now know from DS3.
All these parry criticals makes me a bit sad that most people don’t realize you can do a different critical attack if you trigger it before they fall to the ground. I think the UGS one is running the sword clean through the chest. It looks extra silly with the Old Knight UGS that has its end broken off.
I like to take it safe because I feel like I mess it up more often if I try to do it immediately, but maybe that happened more often in the other games. Not sure
That dragon still hangs in the Freja boss room where you can access the Dragon Memory to get the actual Ancient Dragon Soul, so it's the other way around with him taking a Petrified Dragon Bone and injecting it into a Giant
they are from heide lol lets take alken for example, the only reason why they have old knights there is bc the old iron king tried to replicate the heiden golems (something implicated by their power that keeps them as is to this day), and the first civilization to have inherited anor londo's golemcraft is, well, heide, and after heide, other lands inherited that as well, like venns bell gargoyles and alkens smelter demons aldia has an interest in lost civilizations, this being evidenced by the placement of aldias keep in shaded woods, a place that was built by heide (architecture + heiden sentinel heads show this), and aldia previously residing in the lost bastille, as evidenced by many aldian enemies being there + it being the capital for many magical nations like olaphis and venn aldia, by the creation of the drakekeepers, or dragon sentries in the JPN, just used the heiden golems as base for this to further evidence they are from heide, a heiden old knight can be found in shrine of amana, another place that too was built by heide thanks to architecture there being the same as that of shaded woods and dark chasm
>lets take alken for example, the only reason why they have old knights there is bc the old iron king tried to replicate the heiden golems (something implicated by their power that keeps them as is to this day), and the first civilization to have inherited anor londo's golemcraft is, well, heide That's assuming that the Old Knights are Golems, but the Holy Water Urns work on them, but those only work on Undead and not on Golems
@@Domo3000 holy water urns work on every enemy tho lol, they just do massive damage on hollows iirc along with this, their description says that they are with power, something that allowed them to remain intact to this day
@@ONobreBabuino you know what, the wiki was wrong on that. I should have fact checked that. So Holy Water Urns deal 0 damage to Golems like Manikins, Eleum Loyce Golems, but also nothing against Old Knights. The Fextralife wiki states that they deal heavy damage against the Old Knights, but they don't do anything against them.
this is a pretty interesting theory, i can especially see how Aldia, who deeply studied the soul, would be capable of refining golems to be faster and stronger The main question i would have is why the Old Knights are in a different style to everything in Heide, and why they are so forgotten by history if the rest of Heide is not
@@frazfrazfrazfraz >The main question i would have is why the Old Knights are in a different style to everything in Heide, and why they are so forgotten by history if the rest of Heide is not Yeah that mystery was also what was bothering me enough to make this video. Maybe the point is that history gets forgotten and we will never know
i will never understand why people choose to cheese bosses, it just seems so boring and overly complicated. like i'm not gonna stand there for an hour learning how to flawlessly parry every one of gwyn's attacks when he usually lasts about 1 or 2 attempts
@@ZeroFanfare it means attempts as in "times it takes to kill" not parries it takes to kill, you will usually first time his fight since as all bosses in ds1, his moveset is pretty simple. most of the difficulty from ds1 comes from the stiff roll old movement mechanics and slow attacks
@@ZeroFanfare why do you insist on denying the game's lack of difficulty, checking your channel i can see that you are well aware by the amount of times you've fought these bosses, that they are in fact not very hard.
@@Hatredcopter.M3 Because difficulty is subjective. I can say Gwyn is easy, because I have played the game since launch. But I cannot tell that to someone who is struggling with the boss on a first play through. Are you suggesting that because I have no problem with the boss that it should be considered universally easy?
Bruh i have bad news some channel is picking up your clips to show that ds2 hitboxes are ""unfair"" but he totally ignores the content you have shown of other games and the idiots are believing him
Which channel? Yeah but that's what I get from showing the good and bad. Disingenuous people can just cherry-pick the select few bad ones and pretend that they are all like that
I've seen that videos as well, i tried to explain it how the video was wrong by linking the proof of some comparisoms hitbox videos from Domo's channel but my comments got either ignored or deleted by the creator. He's spreading misinformations and many mindless hollows believed him
Whats wrong with that brume tower being their origin? Those giant statues seem like the best evidence. There's also a smelter proving a connection with iron keep
Because those statues in Brume Tower show them in a subjugated pose. If Brume Tower was creating them they would celebrate them, but not shame them like that. And Brume Tower already has those big Golems with fire coming out of their shoulder, so it would not make much sense for them to create two Golems that fulfill the same role. And it would also be weird that history remembers that Alonne Knights, Ironclad Soldiers, etc belong to this kingdom but somehow forgot that the Old Knights were created there. The Old Knights already existed before that kingdom existed.
@Domo3000 would that just mean the old knights are what the iron keep likely used before Alonne arrived.? I thought those shoulders guys were from the witch lady in the tower anyways
@@Domo3000 Subjugated or empty? If they are hollow and meant to be worn or activated (if Golem,) there needs to be a way to transport them out of the forge they are made in!
I personally think they are also from Heide, after a fashion. The single one in the Shrine is not quite enough to distinguish their true origins; whilst some people remember what and where Amana is( and how it holds Rhoy's Resting Place and the path to the Undead Crypt) , no one remembers whether Heide itself was even a country. Whilst it is evident the Iron King( himself an underappreciated craftsman and blacksmith) based his keep on it to draw on it's antiquity, and may have been himself a descendant and survivor of Heide's civilisation, and may have included it's former territories in his dominion, both his Keep and Tower display invariably more advanced technology and a rather spartan take on the old Heide formula, combined with an incredibly strange obsession with bulls, as opposed to the mysterious falcon-headed god watching over the Cathedral Of Blue and the rest of the sunken remnants surrounding the Tower Of Flame. The reason the Heide Knights do not display the same decay with their own armour as the Old Knights is the specific alloy used, one seemingly of divine origin due to it's lightning resistance; in contrast, the Old Knights seem to have been wearing brass like the Sentinels of Anor Londo. I don't believe they are golems; each piece of the armor set insists on there at least once having been a,warrior who used it and the weapons associated with it. More importantly, they are not immune ti bleed. Something is in that armour; we just don't know what. Brume Tower is fascinating because what happened there ses to be far more extensive than mere subjugation. If you look from the outside, the Fume Knight arena is actually just the massive chest piece of one of them, with the broken helmet being the entrance. Given the Iron King would later apparently leave his crown here before drowning in the lava of his Keep, this place was of some importance to him. Moreover, the place is covered in ash... So much of it. It's almost like a Kiln. If one looks closely at the Iron Scepter, you'll note it has a suspicious resemblance to a coiled sword. In turn, it is said the Iron King seemed to hold the very powers of life and creation. Could there be some correlation? Could he have fought, and bled, for this scepter against the most powerful and massive of the Knights? Indeed, as horrific as it may be, even those elevators may not be completely empty suits of armour.
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UGS parry goes hard
UGS parry is one of the best thing fromsoftware ever created, and they dumped it off in later series :(
Nice video, never though i would get a lore content from this channel~
Just like backstep s. To me it really has the most interesting combat mechanics
@@Domo3000 backstep s is so OP in ds2 pvp ngl!
The lore of dark souls 2 can be scarce and hard to interpret at times so videos like these are much appreciated
My take:
Old Knights are basically Golems. The Brume Tower acts as a "Factory" to mass produce them.
I base my theory too by the fact that these knights are super weak to Strike Damage, a trait shared clearly with the Giant Stone Knights and Stone Guardians back in Dark Souls 1. So I think this is not the first time Fromsoft does this kind of thing.
Also regarding Drakekeepers, I like your take that Aldia attempted to recreate these Old Knights as Drakekeepers since they not only share similar moves but also due to the fact that Drakekeepers are stronger and faster as well.
Either way, them and the Drakekeepers are my favorite enemies in DS2. I just love Massive Armored Giants. Especially when their Armor is really cool too.
Strike Damage works well against every enemy with heavy armor, but Holy Water Urns also work on the Old Knights and those only work on the Undead but not on Golems
Edit: actually the wiki was wrong on that. I tested it and Holy Water Urns don't damage them so they are indeed Golems
That was my first theory about them, but i saw two problems with it
1. The way they're used in brume tower seems to be disparaging them, not celebrating them. They are shown slumped over and powerless, huge masses doing nothing but lifting a few tiny elevators. You would think the creators would want to display them proudly and showing strength and vigor, not the other way around
2. Their armor doesn't seem to match the style of anything else the iron king created. It looks to have come from a completely different culture
These two reasons are why the subjugation theory is so likely. The old knights as being from another kingdom that was conquered and are now displayed in a shameful way by the victorious party
Furthermore, the iron king already had hulking armored masses of about the same size, the guys wielding the smelter hammers. They're in a completely different style, and already fill about the same role
@@frazfrazfrazfraz oof I'm going to try and defend my Golem Theory.
Based on what you said, that still doesn't disprove that they are not Golems. Reading from your points, at least what is proven is that they are not from Iron King's Domain, and that they are defeated and subjugated, or at least their remains are used for for disparaging functions.
So what I now reconclude is that they are still Golems, except they are not from Brume Tower, they are from an ancient forgotten Civilization, so Old that their Armor started to wither and crumble.
Also fun fact, I do think they are made out of Bronze because they are green. I read somewhere that Bronze turns green when they oxidize or something. Same thing with DS3's Earth Seeker Greataxe which is a green colored Bronze Greataxe.
@@frazfrazfrazfraz That's because the armor is simply being transported. If it's a golem, they will be slumped over until activated. If Brume Tower is their point of creation, they could be brought elsewhere for activation.
@@ThisIsPampkin I think they are still from Brume Tower. A golem needs magical activation. I would wager that Aldia may have had some part in that process. Armor gets built in Brume Tower, they get transported elsewhere for activation. The ones hung up in Brume Tower are probably just next on the conveyor belt to be lifted out of the forge at the bottom.
Huh, a new way to fight the ancient dragon
Very nice vidoe!
It's fairly well-known (game's been around for 10 years at this point) but most folks use rapier for counter damage so they won't actually be able to do this lol
Whenever DS3 made it clear that the main target for a dragon should be the head, I was also fighting Ancient Dragon this way. I wouldn't call the other way cheesing though, because this does not really work too well if you don't prep for it by using specific weapons. Since you can't lock on to the head and it's moving more than the feet, it's already harder to hit. And that's not even accounting that for quite a good amount of weapons, the time to hit the Ancient Dragon's head is very limited since he doesn't hold it too close to the ground. Point being, it makes a lot of sense for a lot of loadouts to go for the feet since they are on the ground and move less so they are easier to hit. If they gave you a lock on for the head, I think most would at least try.
I've always liked videos like this. Keep them coming please. I've
always wondered about the possible connection between the singing in Amana and Shulva. The only conclusion I've made is that they're purpose is the same, but it's to sooth different creatures.
The archdrake knights are also heavily implied to be former drakeblood knights iirc, so maybe there's something to the singing connection
I feel ashamed for not noticing the Heide-IronKeep similarities! But it does make sense that the Old Iron King had control of Both Alken and Venn at the time of his rule.
I liked the detail of Vendrick showing much more respect than the Iron King!
I did notice the Old Knights at Brume Tower and wondered if they originated from there, but you've convinced me about Shrine of Amana.
Thank you for all the work you've done with your videos! Especially the Vanilla-Scholar comparisons!
Wow is that my first Super Like? Thank you so much!
wtf this is so good
What a great video. An intriguing and fresh theory, a new and interesting way to kill the ancient dragon, and some ASMR with UGS parries at the end 😄
Very, very good speculation! I am very happy with this video. It even gives good tips to fight the "not dragon"! I think using the summons while fighting this way is intended. Them going for legs doesn't make them die as much if the focus is on attacks with the head towards you only.
The rate at which you’ve been dropping videos is fricken awesome. Keep them coming!
Thanks! But to be fair I was on sick leave for some time, but I won't be able to keep up with that pace once I get back to work
@@Domo3000 Fair enough. I’m just glad to get more DS2 content.
I've been using a UGS for three NG cycles now and totally forgot about UGS parries. Also, Old Knights were always the most interesting enemy in DS2 to me. Keep the videos coming!
I'm glad you caught that the ones attached to the elevators suggest that they were subjugated, not a creation of the old iron king
I would go so far as to say that he didn't just subjugate them, but defeated them in glorious fashion, or at least they were considered very powerful or maybe even impossible to defeat before he came along
You wouldn't build such absurdly large statues for just any slaves. But you might do it to revel in your own accomplishment, or to mock those "great ones" you defeated. That would be my best guess, anyway
It might even be that he considered defeating them to be an important moment in the construction of his kingdom, thus why they are "lifting" the elevators. Or maybe that's just symbolic of their slave labor
This is a pretty interesting theory. I still don't have a complete idea of what i think about them, but this is well presented and reasonable
It makes more sense to me that Brume Tower is a giant forge, creating weapons and armor. The old knights that are hanging on the elevators could simply be hollow sets of armor on transport, similar to a conveyor belt style of construction.
@@ZeroFanfare personally, I don't see it
If it's a conveyor belt type mechanism, it would have to go somewhere next, but it's FAR too big to ever leave the tower. It would have to be deconstructed then reconstructed to progress, which would completely defeat the purpose of that mechanism. It would be a pointless middle step that added work
Rather, it seems like the statues were never meant to leave the tower. If they were meant to be enormous golems 50 foot tall, they should have been being constructed outside the tower, not inside. How would that mechanism even work? Where would they be connected to the elevator fully formed, before being detached to go where? The amount of work it would take to attach and detach them at such scale would far outweigh the work it would take to just move them piece by piece outside to be constructed. And it would be to make them go up/down a measly 800 feet or so, and once again to nowhere that significant.
The only explanation I could see is that the tower used to go down further in the past, and there used to be an exit far below that could fit them out at such scale. But that would require the elevators to go down much more, and for the building to have gone down much more before presumably sinking into the lava
Furthermore, the statues don't look to be made of the same material as the other old knights OR the other metalworks the iron King created, but rather look more like stone. They are also monumentally bigger than any of the old knights, which could suggest that there were massive old knights, but could also just suggest that the iron King was exaggerating his accomplishment/mockery by increasing the size, rubbing it in people's faces
And once again, they don't match the style of the old iron King's other creations, and he already had soldiers that filled the role of the normal sized old knights, so what reason would he have to create the regular sized old knights?
This channel just keeps getting better, great vid
I never noticed those connections and I played through ds2 like 12 times.
Giga chad DS2 defender
Funny, I always fought the ancient dragon this way and never had problem. Dragon head is always the weak spot in dark soul series. The stupid frustrating " run to tail and smack toe tactic" spread as fast as other misinformation about this game and it's as flawed.
>Dragon head is always the weak spot in dark soul series
In this case they forgot about it and you will deal the same damage to his head and toes, but it's way less boring and you can defeat him faster as he won't spend half the time flying up in the air
@@Domo3000 That's weird I always remember dealing more damage smacking him on the head instead of the toes. Maybe I was hitting with a better sweet spot?
The reason most folks end up attacking his claws is because only specific weapons can hit the Dragon's head. Most people see rapier speedruns and think that's most optimal, so they end up only having that as an upgraded weapon by the time they get there. Can't really reach the head with the rapier lol
Cool video i liked it
Keep up the good work dude
I'm pretty sure the Old Knights are just metal golems, and those "statues" were actually unfinished units.
Finally found a backstep enjoyer 👌
This channel is so good man, keep it up
So glad to find someone who clearly cares so much about best souls 2. I feel its also important to mention that the old knights drop cracked blue eye orbs, a covenant item to the blue sentinels located in hides tower of flame.
This was actually a pretty cool video. Keep it up! ❤
Shrine of Amana being a ruined kingdom is great idea considering Drangleic is already built upon multiple of old and gone kingdoms, perhaps the archdrake pilgrims ventured to it not only to escape Lindelt, but also to perhaps the kingdom that their homeland originally originated from (as in the people from there emigrated elsewhere to start their own group and in fit of irony many years later people emigrate from their group for similar reasons?)
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I finally beat the ancient dragon for the first time. It was actually... Fun?
Like, sure I died a couple times learning the windups, and it was looong, but it was... Not boring!
Hey! Here's something to maybe get rid of those stutters in souls games:
In Nvidia settings for the game's exe, go to "threaded optimization" and turn it to off.
Isn't guaranteed but for me it completely solved the problem, even with Bluetooth controllers.
I never noticed the ancient dragon was a fake, I even heard that exact line from that cat before and didn't think much of it. It feels like as in if it were something Miyazaki would do, which shows how much the team cared about the previous two games. I found fighting it really simple, just a matter of whittling down it's health for a long time, but the head focused strat seems less tedious.
In the Dragon Memory you can find the body of an actual Ancient Dragon with the Ancient Dragon Soul
Aldia took dragon DNA (Petrified Dragon Bone) and injected it into a Giant in an attempt to recreate dragons. That became the Ancient Dragon we fight.
In Aldia's Keep there's also Undead Abberations in cages (the monstrosities that you can find in Vanilla Sinner's Rise or also Scholar NG+) that are failed half-hollow half-dragon experiments.
@@Domo3000 Yeah, I waited out the timer in that memory in confusion without realizing I had the aged feather to get out. There was a guy who figured out how to kill himself in that memory though, found that pretty amusing.
This land was Venn first, then the OIK took part of it and founded Alken. This is all known history so the OIK couldn’t have created the Old Knights as they come from a time before that recorded history. If you read the Heide Knights armor set it says something similar “no records date far back enough to tell” which is why I do think they are linked.
Something to remember is the Scorching Iron Scepter is implied to be FOUND tech based on its item description. The lord takes the “dilapidated region” but his fortunes turn with the “discovery” of the iron producing miracle. So perhaps all of Brume tower was not constructed by the OIK. The scepter, some of the forge, and the old knight suits of armor without a soul may be remnants from when this Kingdom was controlled by those who ruled Heide, and the area that became Brume Tower was their forge. It is implied this was the expat Lords from Anor Londo including Gwyneviere and Flann
I think the Old Knights golems are basically their Giant Sentinels 2.0 and their armor was originally brass as well. So much time has passed that now all their brass armor and weapons have a thick layer of green patina on it and they are ready to crumble. Perhaps one of the reasons the Old Knights armor is in such bad shape and the Heide armor is not is because in vanilla the Old Knights were only in one place, Heide ruins, constantly exposed to the salty sea air.
I believe the Heidi Knights were the new silver knights of this expat Lord kingdom and wielded weapons made of Anor Londo brass which is why they do lightning damage. Their weapon tech is very advanced for its age because Drangleic smiths were unable to duplicate it, the best they could was create bradden steel, an imperfect form.
So I think the timeline is the expats Lords arrive and found Heide and take control of part of the land. They build a forge to produce metal wherever Brume Tower is located. Calamity strikes Heide and the majority is “subsumed by the sea” or perhaps the Lords all eventually die of old age and the kingdom collapses. At this point I think Venn expands and claims the territory, but doesn’t realize what they have as all the records are lost to the sea. Much later the “enfeebled Lord” takes a portion of the kingdom from Venn, the Huntman’s Copse to Brume Tower. Then he lucks out and finds in his new kingdom the ruins of Heide’s forge and in it its power source, the Sceptor, and he is reborn the OIK.
One thing I want to add is that the weapons don't have to be made of brass to be infused with lightning. The batwing demons had their spears infused with lightning despite those being made of bone. The Heide knights weapons look to be made of something similar to their armor, being a kind of stark white. I don't see them as brass
Also, iirc it's specifically mentioned that the Heide knights have 'silver' armor that cannot be replicated, lending further credence to them being the progression of silver knights. Anor londo must have had advanced and specific metal working techniques
@@frazfrazfrazfraz or given Heide is tied in with the origins of the way of the blue and the Blue Sentinels, perhaps they are a combo successor to the silver knights and Darkmoon Knights.
i also have a theory if i can add one. i think that this iron knights are a living stone golems that were created by iron king before he met sir allone. he used nadalia as a fuel in order to create this giant warriors. but in the end nadalia went nuts and destroyed brume tower. remember her items names when you exchange her soul "outcry pyromancy" and "Chime of Screams". when he realized that he will no longer be able to create more warriors he almost went nuts but by that time he meeted sir allone and he just changed his current army to allone knights who were led and trained by sir allone. and what old iron knights forgot in heide? well iron king was a conqueror and he just sent them all to conquer this kingdom ( and also to get rid of his less effective warriors) but after a while a few things happened and iron king was no more.
the iron King and nadalia never met, she showed up after he was gone and her "screams" were a response to her loneliness and isolation
I personally think they are also from Heide, after a fashion. The single one in the Shrine is not quite enough to distinguish their true origins; whilst some people remember what and where Amana is( and how it holds Rhoy's Resting Place and the path to the Undead Crypt) , no one remembers whether Heide itself was even a country. Whilst it is evident the Iron King( himself an underappreciated craftsman and blacksmith) based his keep on it to draw on it's antiquity, and may have been himself a descendant and survivor of Heide's civilisation, and may have included it's former territories in his dominion, both his Keep and Tower display invariably more advanced technology and a rather spartan take on the old Heide formula, combined with an incredibly strange obsession with bulls, as opposed to the mysterious falcon-headed god watching over the Cathedral Of Blue and the rest of the sunken remnants surrounding the Tower Of Flame.
The reason the Heide Knights do not display the same decay with their own armour as the Old Knights is the specific alloy used, one seemingly of divine origin due to it's lightning resistance; in contrast, the Old Knights seem to have been wearing brass like the Sentinels of Anor Londo.
I don't believe they are golems; each piece of the armor set insists on there at least once having been a,warrior who used it and the weapons associated with it. More importantly, they are not immune ti bleed. Something is in that armour; we just don't know what.
Brume Tower is fascinating because what happened there ses to be far more extensive than mere subjugation. If you look from the outside, the Fume Knight arena is actually just the massive chest piece of one of them, with the broken helmet being the entrance. Given the Iron King would later apparently leave his crown here before drowning in the lava of his Keep, this place was of some importance to him. Moreover, the place is covered in ash...
So much of it.
It's almost like a Kiln.
If one looks closely at the Iron Scepter, you'll note it has a suspicious resemblance to a coiled sword. In turn, it is said the Iron King seemed to hold the very powers of life and creation. Could there be some correlation?
Could he have fought, and bled, for this scepter against the most powerful and massive of the Knights?
Indeed, as horrific as it may be, even those elevators may not be completely empty suits of armour.
I figured the Old Knights Armor was forged in Brume Tower, and that the ones in Dragon Shrine are the elite guard for the King. The intro cinematic pans over Dragon Shrine while mentioning "a great king built a great kingdom." Even has all the dragons flying around it. I theorize that Nashandra's warning was to mislead the player, not inform. I do think the Ancient Dragon is real, just another of Aldia's captured pets.
Ashen Mist Heart description seems to be alluding to the dragon being real, too: "Manifestation of ashen mist
received from the ancient dragon.
The magic of the ancient dragon allows one
to delve into the memories of the withered."
I'm wondering if Aldia, before being transformed into the mess it is now, was actually studying the magic powers that the Ancient Dragon once possessed. If Aldia's intent was to destroy or even harness the curse, it would make sense that having a power like delving into memories of dead creatures would be essential for his research. If he did it a lot, it could also be an explanation for why his voices are an amalgamation of so many NPC characters we meet.
Ah, lore theories :)
Nah man, Aldia made that thing.
You get an actual soul of one somewhere else.
I think it was in Freja's boss room.
@@asdergold1 You get a great one soul, presumably from the dead dragon in Freja’s room. Not every dragon drops a great one soul, though. At least in-game, the one in Freja’s room is the only one. Sinh doesn’t, and neither do any of the dragons in Aerie. Which indicates that not all dragons would have the soul. I know it’s a popular theory that Aldia made the dragon, but why would that be his only creation, while everything else in his keep are captures? If he made stuff, there would be evidence of failed creatures. Instead, we have a large amount of captured creatures.
@@ZeroFanfare I think he meant the Ancient Dragon Soul you get in Dragon Memories after you kill Freja and return to the boss room, while the Ancient Dragon himself doesn't drop that soul
@@sk8william798 that is the dead body of an actual Ancient Dragon where Aldia got the dragon DNA (petrified dragon bone) from that he injected into a giant in an attempt to resurrect the dragons
@@ZeroFanfare there is evidence of failed creatures. The Undead Abberations he keeps in cages (and that show up in Sinner's Rise in Vanilla and Scholar NG+) are canonically half-hollow half-dragon experiments.
I ought to bring up the fact that iron keep and heide's tower both have semi direct connections with the gods of ds1 in the iron Kings ng+ soul and the old dragonslayer
I simply think that this is just giants, but not the Dark Souls 2 giants, but those which is from Anor Londo, that guarding the City (in illusion) from invadors. Heide's Tower is actually full of references to Anor Londo: architecture, Blue Sentinels (witch is the referencing Blades of the Darkmoon covenant), Ornstein (i actually I used to theorized about it long ago, and one of my theory was about this is could be a real Ornstein, that met his teacher and followed his teachings about how riding a wiverns, and then flew into Drangleic and passed the teaching of riding on wiverns to Dragonriders, and wivern, that was added on pass to him is actually his.), Heide's Knights armor is actually reminding about Solaire (by their helmets, and it's only 2 examples in the series of helmets with that shape).
There's another clue, besides their size and their location, is that their armor, when it's broken with a 5% chance cast Wrath of the Gods, witch is the spell, that Anor Londo giants can cast.
So, this is doesn't explain why this is not the armor that the giants were wearing in Anor Londo, so as there's no explanation, why Dragonslayer is using dark spells, if it's really Ornstein, but i think, that it's possible to come up with some explanation to patch up the holes of this theory :)
Spitballing here, did The Old Iron King make, or at least take over the tower of flame? It would be in line with his previous history with giant towers and flame.
Would that make old iron king Heide?
"the other is submerged in lava" litterally floating in tha air lol
It's in the caldera of the vulcano behind the Earthen Peak windmill
@@Domo3000 th-cam.com/video/621xrr_M7fs/w-d-xo.html sure lmao it is floating
What DS2 refers to as a "true monarch" is what DS3 refers to as a "Lord of Cinder", discuss? Bearing in mind that someone doesn't need to actually link the fire to be counted as one (eg. Prince Lothric, who basically did what Vendrick did after being fated to link the flame).
If the comparison holds, I'd love to see a lore discussion on what the ritual at the end of DS3 is meant to represent, when the Lords are returned to their thrones (represented by their heads/crowns on each throne) and their power flows into you. And is there a functional difference between that, and the ritual Vendrick performs in DS2 to combine the power of the monarch's crowns into yourself.
I think there's a real lack of deepdive into DS2 lore in the context of what we now know from DS3.
All these parry criticals makes me a bit sad that most people don’t realize you can do a different critical attack if you trigger it before they fall to the ground.
I think the UGS one is running the sword clean through the chest. It looks extra silly with the Old Knight UGS that has its end broken off.
I like to take it safe because I feel like I mess it up more often if I try to do it immediately, but maybe that happened more often in the other games. Not sure
I always assumed aldia created the ancient dragon by using a giant soul to give life to dragon fossils, which is why it drops a petrified dragon bone
That dragon still hangs in the Freja boss room where you can access the Dragon Memory to get the actual Ancient Dragon Soul, so it's the other way around with him taking a Petrified Dragon Bone and injecting it into a Giant
@@Domo3000 I forgot about the ancient dragon soul in Frejas boss room, it’s odd that its description says the soul was created though
Im curious, do you normally play with the UI off, or just when recording?
Only when recording. Otherwise I have a hard time keeping track of my stamina
enemies have lore?
Great vid man but using your natural voice would be cooler!
they are from heide lol
lets take alken for example, the only reason why they have old knights there is bc the old iron king tried to replicate the heiden golems (something implicated by their power that keeps them as is to this day), and the first civilization to have inherited anor londo's golemcraft is, well, heide, and after heide, other lands inherited that as well, like venns bell gargoyles and alkens smelter demons
aldia has an interest in lost civilizations, this being evidenced by the placement of aldias keep in shaded woods, a place that was built by heide (architecture + heiden sentinel heads show this), and aldia previously residing in the lost bastille, as evidenced by many aldian enemies being there + it being the capital for many magical nations like olaphis and venn
aldia, by the creation of the drakekeepers, or dragon sentries in the JPN, just used the heiden golems as base for this
to further evidence they are from heide, a heiden old knight can be found in shrine of amana, another place that too was built by heide thanks to architecture there being the same as that of shaded woods and dark chasm
>lets take alken for example, the only reason why they have old knights there is bc the old iron king tried to replicate the heiden golems (something implicated by their power that keeps them as is to this day), and the first civilization to have inherited anor londo's golemcraft is, well, heide
That's assuming that the Old Knights are Golems, but the Holy Water Urns work on them, but those only work on Undead and not on Golems
@@Domo3000 holy water urns work on every enemy tho lol, they just do massive damage on hollows iirc
along with this, their description says that they are with power, something that allowed them to remain intact to this day
@@ONobreBabuino you know what, the wiki was wrong on that. I should have fact checked that.
So Holy Water Urns deal 0 damage to Golems like Manikins, Eleum Loyce Golems, but also nothing against Old Knights.
The Fextralife wiki states that they deal heavy damage against the Old Knights, but they don't do anything against them.
this is a pretty interesting theory, i can especially see how Aldia, who deeply studied the soul, would be capable of refining golems to be faster and stronger
The main question i would have is why the Old Knights are in a different style to everything in Heide, and why they are so forgotten by history if the rest of Heide is not
@@frazfrazfrazfraz >The main question i would have is why the Old Knights are in a different style to everything in Heide, and why they are so forgotten by history if the rest of Heide is not
Yeah that mystery was also what was bothering me enough to make this video. Maybe the point is that history gets forgotten and we will never know
i will never understand why people choose to cheese bosses, it just seems so boring and overly complicated. like i'm not gonna stand there for an hour learning how to flawlessly parry every one of gwyn's attacks when he usually lasts about 1 or 2 attempts
@@ZeroFanfare it means attempts as in "times it takes to kill" not parries it takes to kill, you will usually first time his fight since as all bosses in ds1, his moveset is pretty simple. most of the difficulty from ds1 comes from the stiff roll old movement mechanics and slow attacks
@@Hatredcopter.M3 Most gamers I watch on Twitch do not first try Gwyn, even if they know how to parry. What are you actually talking about?
@@ZeroFanfare why do you insist on denying the game's lack of difficulty, checking your channel i can see that you are well aware by the amount of times you've fought these bosses, that they are in fact not very hard.
@@Hatredcopter.M3 Because difficulty is subjective. I can say Gwyn is easy, because I have played the game since launch. But I cannot tell that to someone who is struggling with the boss on a first play through. Are you suggesting that because I have no problem with the boss that it should be considered universally easy?
@@ZeroFanfare i have sent you a discord request, accept today or tomorrow, i will stop caring after.
Bruh i have bad news some channel is picking up your clips to show that ds2 hitboxes are ""unfair"" but he totally ignores the content you have shown of other games and the idiots are believing him
Which channel?
Yeah but that's what I get from showing the good and bad. Disingenuous people can just cherry-pick the select few bad ones and pretend that they are all like that
@@Domo3000 i saw it in a short, i would like to paste link but i dunno if yt take it as spam, "dark souls 2 hitboxes explained"
I've seen that videos as well, i tried to explain it how the video was wrong by linking the proof of some comparisoms hitbox videos from Domo's channel but my comments got either ignored or deleted by the creator.
He's spreading misinformations and many mindless hollows believed him
@@chizu.iscold adding links might count as spam i dont think creator is shameless enough to hide
@@abrahamrangel2326 yeah i think that's why
the more people play ds2 the more they realize its a good game and I wish we get a directors cut with all the cut content. screw namco
Domo is increasingly making me go "🤯"
Whats wrong with that brume tower being their origin? Those giant statues seem like the best evidence. There's also a smelter proving a connection with iron keep
Because those statues in Brume Tower show them in a subjugated pose.
If Brume Tower was creating them they would celebrate them, but not shame them like that. And Brume Tower already has those big Golems with fire coming out of their shoulder, so it would not make much sense for them to create two Golems that fulfill the same role.
And it would also be weird that history remembers that Alonne Knights, Ironclad Soldiers, etc belong to this kingdom but somehow forgot that the Old Knights were created there.
The Old Knights already existed before that kingdom existed.
@Domo3000 would that just mean the old knights are what the iron keep likely used before Alonne arrived.?
I thought those shoulders guys were from the witch lady in the tower anyways
@@Domo3000 Subjugated or empty? If they are hollow and meant to be worn or activated (if Golem,) there needs to be a way to transport them out of the forge they are made in!
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I personally think they are also from Heide, after a fashion. The single one in the Shrine is not quite enough to distinguish their true origins; whilst some people remember what and where Amana is( and how it holds Rhoy's Resting Place and the path to the Undead Crypt) , no one remembers whether Heide itself was even a country. Whilst it is evident the Iron King( himself an underappreciated craftsman and blacksmith) based his keep on it to draw on it's antiquity, and may have been himself a descendant and survivor of Heide's civilisation, and may have included it's former territories in his dominion, both his Keep and Tower display invariably more advanced technology and a rather spartan take on the old Heide formula, combined with an incredibly strange obsession with bulls, as opposed to the mysterious falcon-headed god watching over the Cathedral Of Blue and the rest of the sunken remnants surrounding the Tower Of Flame.
The reason the Heide Knights do not display the same decay with their own armour as the Old Knights is the specific alloy used, one seemingly of divine origin due to it's lightning resistance; in contrast, the Old Knights seem to have been wearing brass like the Sentinels of Anor Londo.
I don't believe they are golems; each piece of the armor set insists on there at least once having been a,warrior who used it and the weapons associated with it. More importantly, they are not immune ti bleed. Something is in that armour; we just don't know what.
Brume Tower is fascinating because what happened there ses to be far more extensive than mere subjugation. If you look from the outside, the Fume Knight arena is actually just the massive chest piece of one of them, with the broken helmet being the entrance. Given the Iron King would later apparently leave his crown here before drowning in the lava of his Keep, this place was of some importance to him. Moreover, the place is covered in ash...
So much of it.
It's almost like a Kiln.
If one looks closely at the Iron Scepter, you'll note it has a suspicious resemblance to a coiled sword. In turn, it is said the Iron King seemed to hold the very powers of life and creation. Could there be some correlation?
Could he have fought, and bled, for this scepter against the most powerful and massive of the Knights?
Indeed, as horrific as it may be, even those elevators may not be completely empty suits of armour.